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Nerchio
Profile Joined October 2009
Poland2633 Posts
February 06 2016 11:42 GMT
#81
Zvz is retarded in lotv
Progamer"I am the best" - Nerchio , 2017.
Liquid`Snute
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Norway839 Posts
February 06 2016 11:43 GMT
#82
bly totally had 70% of rogue's mutas cornered around 9:50, huge tactical blunder letting them all escape and agreeing to a split base-trade, amazing comeback by rogue from this point and on. but bly playing much better in the early game and midgame, great game imo.
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prion terrace games, on the other hand, absolutely suck to watch
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Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
February 06 2016 11:43 GMT
#83
ZvZ is retarted in every expansion. Only when Solar plays against ByuL, it makes some sense :-)
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
February 06 2016 11:44 GMT
#84
On February 06 2016 20:43 Liquid`Snute wrote:
bly totally had 70% of rogue's mutas cornered around 9:50, huge tactical blunder letting them all escape and agreeing to a split base-trade, amazing comeback by rogue from this point and on. but bly playing much better in the early game and midgame, great game imo.
[image loading]

prion terrace games, on the other hand, absolutely suck to watch

I was so sure the game was over at that point too, I was sure the mutas were dead. I'm happy Rogue came back though.

He better win Game 4 and 5 though
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Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
February 06 2016 11:44 GMT
#85
HEhe, CatZ so honest what Rogue must be thinking :-)
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
February 06 2016 11:45 GMT
#86
Why is ZvZ more retarted in LotV?

I mean why is it more volatile? It seems to be what you progamers feel.

(I am not claiming otherwise. I don't play ZvZ. I'm just curious what mechanic has changed it)
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
February 06 2016 11:47 GMT
#87
On February 06 2016 20:43 Diabolique wrote:
ZvZ is retarted in every expansion. Only when Solar plays against ByuL, it makes some sense :-)

Confirm retarded since brood war.
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
February 06 2016 11:47 GMT
#88
In HotS, who made more roaches, that one won. Now it stopped being these stupid roach only wars ...
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
Sif_
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil3106 Posts
February 06 2016 11:48 GMT
#89
region lock was actually meant to protect koreans cuz BLY IS ON FIRE
VyingsP
Profile Joined December 2011
France174 Posts
February 06 2016 11:48 GMT
#90
On February 06 2016 20:45 Mozdk wrote:
Why is ZvZ more retarted in LotV?

I mean why is it more volatile? It seems to be what you progamers feel.

(I am not claiming otherwise. I don't play ZvZ. I'm just curious what mechanic has changed it)


I guess with the economic change, your overlord comes in too late for you to scout one base play
Corrections of my bad english are much welcome
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
February 06 2016 11:50 GMT
#91
Bly has done it, wooow
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
February 06 2016 11:50 GMT
#92
On February 06 2016 20:48 VyingsP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2016 20:45 Mozdk wrote:
Why is ZvZ more retarted in LotV?

I mean why is it more volatile? It seems to be what you progamers feel.

(I am not claiming otherwise. I don't play ZvZ. I'm just curious what mechanic has changed it)


I guess with the economic change, your overlord comes in too late for you to scout one base play


What? The first overlord is already out as the game starts. And it's not like Zergs sacked the first. The keep it outside the base to spot the lings.
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
February 06 2016 11:50 GMT
#93
Bly is on fire !
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
February 06 2016 11:51 GMT
#94
I can't believe Rogue lost... that was awful by him.
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18673 Posts
February 06 2016 11:51 GMT
#95
Bly eats Korean zergs for breakfast
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
February 06 2016 11:52 GMT
#96
My favourite JAGW players just got rekt :/.

gg wp Bly!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Liquid`Snute
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Norway839 Posts
February 06 2016 11:53 GMT
#97
On February 06 2016 20:45 Mozdk wrote:
Why is ZvZ more retarted in LotV?

I mean why is it more volatile? It seems to be what you progamers feel.

(I am not claiming otherwise. I don't play ZvZ. I'm just curious what mechanic has changed it)

to sum it up, defender's advantage was greatly reduced through:
- eco changes (overlord/scouting nerf)
- ravager morph (converting wounded roaches into fully healed ravagers, immediately using resources with a much shorter delay than the ordinary reinforcement delay)
- ravager 4-shot on the eggs, once again hindering defender's advantage
- maps with more open space, again decreasing defender's advantage as queens aren't as useful. (central protocol)
- maps with build order randomness, prion terraces with its gold base.
- more 4 player maps with varied rush distances based on spawn positions (ruins of seras, central protocol)
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Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-06 11:55:16
February 06 2016 11:53 GMT
#98
On February 06 2016 20:51 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I can't believe Rogue lost... that was awful by him.

Bly's game is quite specific ... who knows him, has problems to defend the aggression. Who doesn't know him, has much bigger problems defend the aggression. And as Hydra said, Rogue for sure was not checking, who is Bly at all ...
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
February 06 2016 11:55 GMT
#99
On February 06 2016 20:53 Liquid`Snute wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2016 20:45 Mozdk wrote:
Why is ZvZ more retarted in LotV?

I mean why is it more volatile? It seems to be what you progamers feel.

(I am not claiming otherwise. I don't play ZvZ. I'm just curious what mechanic has changed it)

to sum it up, defender's advantage was greatly reduced through:
- eco changes (overlord/scouting nerf)
- ravager morph (converting wounded roaches into fully healed ravagers, immediately using resources with a much shorter delay than the ordinary reinforcement delay)
- ravager 4-shot on the eggs, once again hindering defender's advantage
- maps with more open space, again decreasing defender's advantage as queens aren't as useful. (central protocol)
- maps with build order randomness, prion terraces with its gold base.
- more 4 player maps with varied rush distances based on spawn positions (ruins of seras, central protocol)


Cool. This makes sense.

Thanks for answering Jens.
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
February 06 2016 11:57 GMT
#100
Does anyone know, when are they going to play the RO8? Also today or tomorrow?
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