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Charlie Sheens House51452 Posts
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RagnaroK vs Super
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Poll: Recommend Impact vs Solar Game 2Meh Game (5) 45% Good Game (4) 36% Bad Game (2) 18% Excellent Game (0) 0% 11 total votes Your vote: Recommend Impact vs Solar Game 2 (Vote): Excellent Game
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Poll: Recommend Impact vs Solar Game 3Meh Game (8) 73% Good Game (3) 27% Excellent Game (0) 0% Bad Game (0) 0% 11 total votes Your vote: Recommend Impact vs Solar Game 3 (Vote): Excellent Game
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Poll: Recommend Impact vs Solar Game 4Good Game (8) 80% Excellent Game (1) 10% Bad Game (1) 10% Meh Game (0) 0% 10 total votes Your vote: Recommend Impact vs Solar Game 4 (Vote): Excellent Game
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Poll: Recommend Impact vs Solar Game 5Meh Game (5) 56% Good Game (3) 33% Excellent Game (1) 11% Bad Game (0) 0% 9 total votes Your vote: Recommend Impact vs Solar Game 5 (Vote): Excellent Game
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Poll: Recommend Classic vs jjakji Game 1Excellent Game (21) 68% Good Game (7) 23% Meh Game (3) 10% Bad Game (0) 0% 31 total votes Your vote: Recommend Classic vs jjakji Game 1 (Vote): Excellent Game
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Poll: Recommend Classic vs jjakji Game 2Good Game (10) 71% Meh Game (2) 14% Excellent Game (1) 7% Bad Game (1) 7% 14 total votes Your vote: Recommend Classic vs jjakji Game 2 (Vote): Excellent Game
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Poll: Recommend Classic vs jjakji Game 3Meh Game (10) 63% Bad Game (3) 19% Good Game (2) 13% Excellent Game (1) 6% 16 total votes Your vote: Recommend Classic vs jjakji Game 3 (Vote): Excellent Game
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Poll: Recommend Classic vs jjakji Game 4Good Game (4) 50% Meh Game (3) 38% Bad Game (1) 13% Excellent Game (0) 0% 8 total votes Your vote: Recommend Classic vs jjakji Game 4 (Vote): Excellent Game
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Poll: Recommend Classic vs jjakji Game 5Meh Game (3) 33% Good Game (3) 33% Excellent Game (2) 22% Bad Game (1) 11% 9 total votes Your vote: Recommend Classic vs jjakji Game 5 (Vote): Excellent Game
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Charlie Sheens House51452 Posts
Poll: Impact vs SolarSolar Wins (10) 77% Impact Wins (3) 23% 13 total votes Your vote: Impact vs Solar (Vote): Impact Wins
(Vote): Solar Wins
Poll: Classic vs jjakjiClassic Wins (10) 91% jjakji Wins (1) 9% 11 total votes Your vote: Classic vs jjakji (Vote): Classic Wins
(Vote): jjakji Wins
Poll: Ragnarok vs SuperRagnarok Wins (6) 60% Super Wins (4) 40% 10 total votes Your vote: Ragnarok vs Super (Vote): Ragnarok Wins
(Vote): Super Wins
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Life vs Bunny being played next week 
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Weird decision to do 3 tonight and 5 next week. :s
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Jjaki, sorry but you're getting destroyed by Classic's adepts :D
Lots of love - DK
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Well shit, was really looking forward to watching Life.
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On January 29 2016 18:29 Heartland wrote:
Why is Life-Bunny moved?
Maybe they haven't had time to tailor a new Afreeca jacket for him yet.
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Tasteless might die next week
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On January 29 2016 18:31 Arvendilin wrote:Tasteless might die next week
Haha by the end of friday night he'll be losing it. Should be good.
On January 29 2016 18:31 Heartland wrote:
why no gtr?
He got hired by SPO. So nothing to do with GSL.
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I don't think I can beat my glorious 0-4 from yesterday
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why isn't the mebedded stream on the sidebar?! Now I have to click the link in the OP and watch on twitch!
It's been like 2 minutes!!
The pain!!!
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On January 29 2016 18:32 Noonius wrote:
I don't think I can beat my glorious 0-4 from yesterday
You can go 0-5 next week Friday :D
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On January 29 2016 18:32 Phredxor wrote:Haha by the end of friday night he'll be losing it. Should be good. He got hired by SPO. So nothing to do with GSL.
Oh :/
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Lots of people there again today :0 thats more than for semifinals 2 of VANT sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo I'll just decide to be super positive and hopefully for SC2 in Korea from now on ;_;
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On January 29 2016 18:35 Arvendilin wrote:
Lots of people there again today :0 thats more than for semifinals 2 of VANT sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo I'll just decide to be super positive and hopefully for SC2 in Korea from now on ;_;
why not just do what I do and embrace death and evil?
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On January 29 2016 18:32 Noonius wrote:
I don't think I can beat my glorious 0-4 from yesterday
You got any writing skills?
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I'll be surprised if Impact manages to win one game. So naturally he'll probably win now.
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On January 29 2016 18:37 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 18:32 Noonius wrote:
I don't think I can beat my glorious 0-4 from yesterday
You got any writing skills?
Does he need one to be a TL writer?
+ Show Spoiler +
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On January 29 2016 18:36 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 18:35 Arvendilin wrote:
Lots of people there again today :0 thats more than for semifinals 2 of VANT sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo I'll just decide to be super positive and hopefully for SC2 in Korea from now on ;_; why not just do what I do and embrace death and evil?
I don't have that willpower, I might end up hurting myself :0
I do embrace evil tho when it comes to Terran Tears, they truly are what keeps me going these day 
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On January 29 2016 18:38 Arvendilin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 18:36 Heartland wrote:On January 29 2016 18:35 Arvendilin wrote:
Lots of people there again today :0 thats more than for semifinals 2 of VANT sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo I'll just decide to be super positive and hopefully for SC2 in Korea from now on ;_; why not just do what I do and embrace death and evil? I don't have that willpower, I might end up hurting myself :0 I do embrace evil tho when it comes to Terran Tears, they truly are what keeps me going these day
I have embraced it to avoid hurting myself
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Interesting decal on the expansion location
Is it the symbol from some faction in the campaign?
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On January 29 2016 18:38 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 18:37 Penev wrote:On January 29 2016 18:32 Noonius wrote:
I don't think I can beat my glorious 0-4 from yesterday
You got any writing skills? Does he need one to be a TL writer? + Show Spoiler +
:o
Nah, just someone to make click batey tweets of his articles
+ Show Spoiler +
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Bloodbath was my favorite BW map.
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Charlie Sheens House51452 Posts
Still making next week LRs for pro league bare with me if i late on a poll xD
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Wait what Artosis switched to Zerg in LotV? First Tasteless now Artosis, we have another race traitor!
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On January 29 2016 18:42 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 18:38 Heartland wrote:On January 29 2016 18:37 Penev wrote:On January 29 2016 18:32 Noonius wrote:
I don't think I can beat my glorious 0-4 from yesterday
You got any writing skills? Does he need one to be a TL writer? + Show Spoiler + :o Nah, just someone to make click batey tweets of his articles + Show Spoiler +
ooooooh! ZING
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On January 29 2016 18:42 Pandemona wrote:
Still making next week LRs for pro league bare with me if i late on a poll xD
Nobody can criticize you, without you we wouldn't have any LR 
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why does Twitch sometimes freeze up my entire computer?
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On January 29 2016 18:44 Heartland wrote:
why does Twitch sometimes freeze up my entire computer?
Because you don't watch on Afreeca.tv and therefor do not support esports
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On January 29 2016 18:44 Heartland wrote:
why does Twitch sometimes freeze up my entire computer?
Twitch sucks sometimes but that sounds like a driver issue. Got the latest, especially for your video card?
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On January 29 2016 18:44 Heartland wrote:
why does Twitch sometimes freeze up my entire computer?
It may not be twitch
The ads on TL sometimes play video and just drive my browser/flashplayer addon into consuming all the memory and then crash
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On January 29 2016 18:46 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 18:44 Heartland wrote:
why does Twitch sometimes freeze up my entire computer? Twitch sucks sometimes but that sounds like a driver issue. Got the latest, especially for your video card?
I've at least tried to run Windows Update a lot, which I guess is where I do that?
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Noooooooo I wanted to watch life so much... and next week I can't watch
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I can't believe they went from a Roach-Ravager mirror to a Muta mirror
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On January 29 2016 18:37 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 18:32 Noonius wrote:
I don't think I can beat my glorious 0-4 from yesterday
You got any writing skills?
I have a brilliant resume
wanna see what that looks like? I simply call it 0-9
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On January 29 2016 18:47 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 18:46 Penev wrote:On January 29 2016 18:44 Heartland wrote:
why does Twitch sometimes freeze up my entire computer? Twitch sucks sometimes but that sounds like a driver issue. Got the latest, especially for your video card? I've at least tried to run Windows Update a lot, which I guess is where I do that?
Should be but depending on which Windows you have it might say it's an optional update.
On January 29 2016 18:47 Yiome wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 18:44 Heartland wrote:
why does Twitch sometimes freeze up my entire computer? It may not be twitch The ads on TL sometimes play video and just drive my browser/flashplayer addon into consuming all the memory and then crash
This is true, it forced me to use adblock on TL D:
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Charlie Sheens House51452 Posts
Poll: Recommend Impact vs Solar Game 1Excellent Game (9) 69% Good Game (2) 15% Meh Game (2) 15% Bad Game (0) 0% 13 total votes Your vote: Recommend Impact vs Solar Game 1 (Vote): Excellent Game
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On January 29 2016 18:49 Noonius wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 18:37 Penev wrote:On January 29 2016 18:32 Noonius wrote:
I don't think I can beat my glorious 0-4 from yesterday
You got any writing skills? I have a brilliant resume wanna see what that looks like? I simply call it 0-9 + Show Spoiler +
That's brutal
I'm sorry..
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On January 29 2016 18:49 Noonius wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 18:37 Penev wrote:On January 29 2016 18:32 Noonius wrote:
I don't think I can beat my glorious 0-4 from yesterday
You got any writing skills? I have a brilliant resume wanna see what that looks like? I simply call it 0-9 + Show Spoiler +
You're probably being PMed by Bumblebee as we speak
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On January 29 2016 18:49 Noonius wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 18:37 Penev wrote:On January 29 2016 18:32 Noonius wrote:
I don't think I can beat my glorious 0-4 from yesterday
You got any writing skills? I have a brilliant resume wanna see what that looks like? I simply call it 0-9 + Show Spoiler +
Impressive. Clearly you're a very talented writer.
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On January 29 2016 18:52 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 18:49 Noonius wrote:On January 29 2016 18:37 Penev wrote:On January 29 2016 18:32 Noonius wrote:
I don't think I can beat my glorious 0-4 from yesterday
You got any writing skills? I have a brilliant resume wanna see what that looks like? I simply call it 0-9 + Show Spoiler + That's brutal I'm sorry..
I also picked Solar to win this series, so things are going great
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Cant watch, but PLEASE win jjakji! Would love to see him in Code S again.
With that said, I think adepts gonna take this :p
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That ling wall was so cool
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Looks like Pimpact has shown up today. Coming to fuck up my liquibet -. -
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Second time Solar goes with a gasless opening in ZvZ. Does these actually work?
edit: Yeah, what I thought. How would you stop ling/bling without gas.
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Seriously though. Fuck liquibets. This is silly.
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Canada8157 Posts
my liquibets
what the fuck
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Charlie Sheens House51452 Posts
Poll: Recommend Impact vs Solar Game 2Meh Game (5) 45% Good Game (4) 36% Bad Game (2) 18% Excellent Game (0) 0% 11 total votes Your vote: Recommend Impact vs Solar Game 2 (Vote): Excellent Game
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I LB'd Solar but I should have gone with the SKT bias
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Charlie Sheens House51452 Posts
Wow that was over fast? haha what happened
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On January 29 2016 18:56 Jer99 wrote:
my liquibets
what the fuck
Exactly! Is Impact the new Evil?
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I had Solar with a 3-0 to. Added salt
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This was a fast but really cool game by impact
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On January 29 2016 18:56 Pandemona wrote:
Wow that was over fast? haha what happened
Solar is playing at his Proleague level.
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seriously, anyone can be a TL writer
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what did impact do? ling wall like a bw zvz? :O
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Liquibet comeback starting boys. Impact aaw yisss
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very impressive Impact. 
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On January 29 2016 18:56 Pandemona wrote:
Wow that was over fast? haha what happened
Solar went gasless and Impact crushed him with Ling/Baneling.
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On January 29 2016 18:57 Penev wrote:
seriously, anyone can be a TL writer
not me, I tried and failed
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Charlie Sheens House51452 Posts
Haha oh thanks. Jeez Solar and herO best people i seen play LOTV. herO already crashed out of SPL in 2 PvPs! Now Solar looks set not to make code s!
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On January 29 2016 18:58 Heartland wrote:not me, I tried and failed
+ Show Spoiler +Your computer froze (you can manually update your drivers btw)?
You actually tried? Who turned you down?
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On January 29 2016 18:59 Pandemona wrote:
Haha oh thanks. Jeez Solar and herO best people i seen play LOTV. herO already crashed out of SPL in 2 PvPs! Now Solar looks set not to make code s!
herO will still go far in GSL with so many Terrans in Code S
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On January 29 2016 18:59 Pandemona wrote:
Haha oh thanks. Jeez Solar and herO best people i seen play LOTV. herO already crashed out of SPL in 2 PvPs! Now Solar looks set not to make code s!
herO is bad in PvP and PvP is kinda coin flip, so... 
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On January 29 2016 19:00 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 18:58 Heartland wrote:On January 29 2016 18:57 Penev wrote:
seriously, anyone can be a TL writer not me, I tried and failed + Show Spoiler +Your computer froze (you can manually update your drivers btw)? You actually tried? Who turned you down?
I turned myself down, I lacked the interest and the time so in the end I quit during my trial period
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On January 29 2016 18:57 Penev wrote:
seriously, anyone can be a TL writer
I'm not articulate enough I don't think, also I'm too good at predictions which basically kills any chance of becoming a writer
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On January 29 2016 19:03 Arvendilin wrote:I'm not articulate enough I don't think, also I'm too good at predictions which basically kills any chance of becoming a writer
No no, you see: Being a writer automatically curses you to make bad predictions, no matter how good you are before.
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On January 29 2016 19:00 Inflicted wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 18:59 Pandemona wrote:
Haha oh thanks. Jeez Solar and herO best people i seen play LOTV. herO already crashed out of SPL in 2 PvPs! Now Solar looks set not to make code s! herO will still go far in GSL with so many Terrans in Code S
Keep in mind that he used quite a lot of adepts and adepts will be nerfed soon. Sadly in LOTV he hasn't impressed me at all, hopefully he can do better in the GSL.
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On January 29 2016 19:03 Arvendilin wrote:I'm not articulate enough I don't think, also I'm too good at predictions which basically kills any chance of becoming a writer
Holy shit you have 49 points in Liquibets.
What is this sorcery :O
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On January 29 2016 19:03 Arvendilin wrote:I'm not articulate enough I don't think, also I'm too good at predictions which basically kills any chance of becoming a writer
I used to suck as a writer but the last 2 seasons my skills are rapidly improving. I think I bumped my head or something
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Charlie Sheens House51452 Posts
On January 29 2016 19:01 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 18:59 Pandemona wrote:
Haha oh thanks. Jeez Solar and herO best people i seen play LOTV. herO already crashed out of SPL in 2 PvPs! Now Solar looks set not to make code s! herO is bad in PvP and PvP is kinda coin flip, so...
Whilst i agree it's his weakest match up. He was terrible in both series.
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Dingit
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Charlie Sheens House51452 Posts
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Lol Impact. That was pretty awful.
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On January 29 2016 19:05 TheOneAboveU wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 19:03 Arvendilin wrote:On January 29 2016 18:57 Penev wrote:
seriously, anyone can be a TL writer I'm not articulate enough I don't think, also I'm too good at predictions which basically kills any chance of becoming a writer No no, you see: Being a writer automatically curses you to make bad predictions, no matter how good you are before.
Oh? Thats how that works? I always thought Liquidbet was a sneaky way to look and disqualify anyone that places highly =P
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The thing is that Starcraft doesn't make any sense.
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so THAT'S how parasitic bomb is OP
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Charlie Sheens House51452 Posts
Poll: Recommend Impact vs Solar Game 3Meh Game (8) 73% Good Game (3) 27% Excellent Game (0) 0% Bad Game (0) 0% 11 total votes Your vote: Recommend Impact vs Solar Game 3 (Vote): Excellent Game
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Solar used micro. It was effective
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Atleast that was a cool build in theory.
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solar will not get crazy hoes preggo
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On January 29 2016 19:07 chipmonklord17 wrote:
so THAT'S how parasitic bomb is OP
The damage stacks so with enough energy it can be much more powerful
But solar's split is indeed very good
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Impact should win this one
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1base ling/bling allin. Will Solar scout it in time?!
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For 125 energy, para bomb is super bad compared to storm or fungal imo. Fungal/para bomb combo could still be sick though.
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On January 29 2016 19:09 Arvendilin wrote:
Impact should win this one
Solar has better micro so it's not sure win
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On January 29 2016 19:09 Yiome wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 19:07 chipmonklord17 wrote:
so THAT'S how parasitic bomb is OP The damage stacks so with enough energy it can be much more powerful But solar's split is indeed very good
The damage stacks but who cares when you just need to split? I've only seen Parabomb used in ZvZ and have never seen it used to any meaningful degree. Can anyone point me to a match where it was used in an actual OP way? As a zerg it would seriously help
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On January 29 2016 19:10 HellHound wrote:Solar has better micro so it's not sure win
he made 24 drones yep he is 99% dead good idea form impact not to rush in
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He should hold it, saw it in time.
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On January 29 2016 19:09 Yiome wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 19:07 chipmonklord17 wrote:
so THAT'S how parasitic bomb is OP The damage stacks so with enough energy it can be much more powerful But solar's split is indeed very good
You mean enough Vipers . 1 Viper can only cast 1 bomb, no matter how much energy.
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I'm having serious difficulties starting the Afreeca stream. Must be my old age catching up with me.
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His baneling control is pretty iffy
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Solar can start dronin should be gg
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On January 29 2016 19:10 HellHound wrote:Solar has better micro so it's not sure win
I thought Impact would go aggressive sooner, if you arrive with speedlings the second you can and forego the baneling nest you win vs a hatch first into gas then pool :/
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I hope we'll have another day of ace matches
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On January 29 2016 19:11 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 19:09 Yiome wrote:On January 29 2016 19:07 chipmonklord17 wrote:
so THAT'S how parasitic bomb is OP The damage stacks so with enough energy it can be much more powerful But solar's split is indeed very good You mean enough Vipers . 1 Viper can only cast 1 bomb, no matter how much energy.
And 4-5 viper are just too much gas spent. In Muta vs Muta you're dead if you're 10 mutas behind.
edit: Game 5 incoming? Solid lead by Solar.
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On January 29 2016 19:13 Penev wrote:
I hope we'll have another day of ace matches
I'd aggree if german internet coverage was better, I have to catch a train and for most of the ride I won't have any access to internet, it freaking sucks
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On January 29 2016 19:13 Arvendilin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 19:10 HellHound wrote:On January 29 2016 19:09 Arvendilin wrote:
Impact should win this one Solar has better micro so it's not sure win I thought Impact would go aggressive sooner, if you arrive with speedlings the second you can and forego the baneling nest you win vs a hatch first into gas then pool :/
Why would anyone die to that???
You can't cancel a spine in the mineral line with 6 lings, you can kill the hatch but then you are just even
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I think Pimpact may barely get him with the nydus
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On January 29 2016 19:15 Arvendilin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 19:13 Penev wrote:
I hope we'll have another day of ace matches I'd aggree if german internet coverage was better, I have to catch a train and for most of the ride I won't have any access to internet, it freaking sucks
Not to make you jelly but in the Netherlands most trains have WiFi
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Big mistake, not having 3 banes in position after scouting the nydus.
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On January 29 2016 19:17 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 19:15 Arvendilin wrote:On January 29 2016 19:13 Penev wrote:
I hope we'll have another day of ace matches I'd aggree if german internet coverage was better, I have to catch a train and for most of the ride I won't have any access to internet, it freaking sucks Not to make you jelly but in the Netherlands most trains have WiFi
does it actually work? There's wifi in Swedish trains too... in theory
and I seemed to have the latest graphic card update. :/
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2 banelings saving the game!
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Charlie Sheens House51452 Posts
See if Solar did this attack he would have won instead he went muta and making game longer / possibility of mistakes
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On January 29 2016 19:18 Pandemona wrote:
See if Solar did this attack he would have won instead he went muta and making game longer / possibility of mistakes
Okay
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LLWWW?
We seem to get a lot of comeback recently
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On January 29 2016 19:18 Pandemona wrote:
See if Solar did this attack he would have won instead he went muta and making game longer / possibility of mistakes
If you spot the nydus in time it's pretty easy to defend as zerg though
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Charlie Sheens House51452 Posts
Poll: Recommend Impact vs Solar Game 4Good Game (8) 80% Excellent Game (1) 10% Bad Game (1) 10% Meh Game (0) 0% 10 total votes Your vote: Recommend Impact vs Solar Game 4 (Vote): Excellent Game
(Vote): Good Game
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Soooo:
2 gaseless openings by Solar --> 2 wins by Impact
2 normal ZvZ openings by Solar --> 2 wins by Solar
No shenanigans please Solar!
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On January 29 2016 19:19 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 19:18 Pandemona wrote:
See if Solar did this attack he would have won instead he went muta and making game longer / possibility of mistakes If you spot the nydus in time it's pretty easy to defend as zerg though
6 banes on it is an insta cancel
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On January 29 2016 19:17 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 19:17 Penev wrote:On January 29 2016 19:15 Arvendilin wrote:On January 29 2016 19:13 Penev wrote:
I hope we'll have another day of ace matches I'd aggree if german internet coverage was better, I have to catch a train and for most of the ride I won't have any access to internet, it freaking sucks Not to make you jelly but in the Netherlands most trains have WiFi does it actually work? There's wifi in Swedish trains too... in theory and I seemed to have the latest graphic card update. :/
It does, don't travel by train myself much but I never heard any complaints about it ( just about security).
Do you have adblock? Maybe it's the flash - TL thing
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On January 29 2016 19:17 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 19:15 Arvendilin wrote:On January 29 2016 19:13 Penev wrote:
I hope we'll have another day of ace matches I'd aggree if german internet coverage was better, I have to catch a train and for most of the ride I won't have any access to internet, it freaking sucks Not to make you jelly but in the Netherlands most trains have WiFi
I know I know, we absolutely suck at internet
Only expensive ICE have Wifi and and maybe sometimes IC/EC will...
The only hope is that apparently there are plans to invest 100 billion Euros into internet infrastructure in the next 9 years, they want to make 500 megabit per second the standard nad give better internet to remote locations, sooooooo I hope this goes through :0
German Wifi laws are really fucked up they also need to be looked over and made better
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On January 29 2016 19:23 Arvendilin wrote:
God this map is so sexy
Yeah...
However the lightning effect can be a bit distracting for players
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On January 29 2016 19:21 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 19:17 Heartland wrote:On January 29 2016 19:17 Penev wrote:On January 29 2016 19:15 Arvendilin wrote:On January 29 2016 19:13 Penev wrote:
I hope we'll have another day of ace matches I'd aggree if german internet coverage was better, I have to catch a train and for most of the ride I won't have any access to internet, it freaking sucks Not to make you jelly but in the Netherlands most trains have WiFi does it actually work? There's wifi in Swedish trains too... in theory and I seemed to have the latest graphic card update. :/ It does, don't travel by train myself much but I never heard any complaints about it ( just about security). Do you have adblock? Maybe it's the flash - TL thing
What's that thing? And yes, I do have adblock.
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Impact's control really isn't impressive.
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Poll: Recommend Impact vs Solar Game 5Meh Game (5) 56% Good Game (3) 33% Excellent Game (1) 11% Bad Game (0) 0% 9 total votes Your vote: Recommend Impact vs Solar Game 5 (Vote): Excellent Game
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liquibets saved. Solar the better player for sure
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Thank god. Glad Solar made it.
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Solar saved my LB! Though Impact played really well.
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On January 29 2016 19:24 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 19:21 Penev wrote:On January 29 2016 19:17 Heartland wrote:On January 29 2016 19:17 Penev wrote:On January 29 2016 19:15 Arvendilin wrote:On January 29 2016 19:13 Penev wrote:
I hope we'll have another day of ace matches I'd aggree if german internet coverage was better, I have to catch a train and for most of the ride I won't have any access to internet, it freaking sucks Not to make you jelly but in the Netherlands most trains have WiFi does it actually work? There's wifi in Swedish trains too... in theory and I seemed to have the latest graphic card update. :/ It does, don't travel by train myself much but I never heard any complaints about it ( just about security). Do you have adblock? Maybe it's the flash - TL thing What's that thing? And yes, I do have adblock.
The ads on TL causing freezes
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On January 29 2016 19:26 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 19:24 Heartland wrote:On January 29 2016 19:21 Penev wrote:On January 29 2016 19:17 Heartland wrote:On January 29 2016 19:17 Penev wrote:On January 29 2016 19:15 Arvendilin wrote:On January 29 2016 19:13 Penev wrote:
I hope we'll have another day of ace matches I'd aggree if german internet coverage was better, I have to catch a train and for most of the ride I won't have any access to internet, it freaking sucks Not to make you jelly but in the Netherlands most trains have WiFi does it actually work? There's wifi in Swedish trains too... in theory and I seemed to have the latest graphic card update. :/ It does, don't travel by train myself much but I never heard any complaints about it ( just about security). Do you have adblock? Maybe it's the flash - TL thing What's that thing? And yes, I do have adblock. The ads on TL causing freezes
it seems to happen on Twitch.tv as well though.
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The thing is: If he saved every liquibet he saved no liquibet at all
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On January 29 2016 19:26 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 19:26 Penev wrote:On January 29 2016 19:24 Heartland wrote:On January 29 2016 19:21 Penev wrote:On January 29 2016 19:17 Heartland wrote:On January 29 2016 19:17 Penev wrote:On January 29 2016 19:15 Arvendilin wrote:On January 29 2016 19:13 Penev wrote:
I hope we'll have another day of ace matches I'd aggree if german internet coverage was better, I have to catch a train and for most of the ride I won't have any access to internet, it freaking sucks Not to make you jelly but in the Netherlands most trains have WiFi does it actually work? There's wifi in Swedish trains too... in theory and I seemed to have the latest graphic card update. :/ It does, don't travel by train myself much but I never heard any complaints about it ( just about security). Do you have adblock? Maybe it's the flash - TL thing What's that thing? And yes, I do have adblock. The ads on TL causing freezes it seems to happen on Twitch.tv as well though.
With adblock enabled on both?
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On January 29 2016 19:27 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 19:26 Heartland wrote:On January 29 2016 19:26 Penev wrote:On January 29 2016 19:24 Heartland wrote:On January 29 2016 19:21 Penev wrote:On January 29 2016 19:17 Heartland wrote:On January 29 2016 19:17 Penev wrote:On January 29 2016 19:15 Arvendilin wrote:On January 29 2016 19:13 Penev wrote:
I hope we'll have another day of ace matches I'd aggree if german internet coverage was better, I have to catch a train and for most of the ride I won't have any access to internet, it freaking sucks Not to make you jelly but in the Netherlands most trains have WiFi does it actually work? There's wifi in Swedish trains too... in theory and I seemed to have the latest graphic card update. :/ It does, don't travel by train myself much but I never heard any complaints about it ( just about security). Do you have adblock? Maybe it's the flash - TL thing What's that thing? And yes, I do have adblock. The ads on TL causing freezes it seems to happen on Twitch.tv as well though. With adblock enabled on both?
Yeah
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On January 29 2016 19:28 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 19:27 Penev wrote:On January 29 2016 19:26 Heartland wrote:On January 29 2016 19:26 Penev wrote:On January 29 2016 19:24 Heartland wrote:On January 29 2016 19:21 Penev wrote:On January 29 2016 19:17 Heartland wrote:On January 29 2016 19:17 Penev wrote:On January 29 2016 19:15 Arvendilin wrote:On January 29 2016 19:13 Penev wrote:
I hope we'll have another day of ace matches I'd aggree if german internet coverage was better, I have to catch a train and for most of the ride I won't have any access to internet, it freaking sucks Not to make you jelly but in the Netherlands most trains have WiFi does it actually work? There's wifi in Swedish trains too... in theory and I seemed to have the latest graphic card update. :/ It does, don't travel by train myself much but I never heard any complaints about it ( just about security). Do you have adblock? Maybe it's the flash - TL thing What's that thing? And yes, I do have adblock. The ads on TL causing freezes it seems to happen on Twitch.tv as well though. With adblock enabled on both? Yeah
Have you ever tried livestreamer?
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On January 29 2016 19:28 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 19:28 Heartland wrote:On January 29 2016 19:27 Penev wrote:On January 29 2016 19:26 Heartland wrote:On January 29 2016 19:26 Penev wrote:On January 29 2016 19:24 Heartland wrote:On January 29 2016 19:21 Penev wrote:On January 29 2016 19:17 Heartland wrote:On January 29 2016 19:17 Penev wrote:On January 29 2016 19:15 Arvendilin wrote:[quote] I'd aggree if german internet coverage was better, I have to catch a train and for most of the ride I won't have any access to internet, it freaking sucks Not to make you jelly but in the Netherlands most trains have WiFi does it actually work? There's wifi in Swedish trains too... in theory and I seemed to have the latest graphic card update. :/ It does, don't travel by train myself much but I never heard any complaints about it ( just about security). Do you have adblock? Maybe it's the flash - TL thing What's that thing? And yes, I do have adblock. The ads on TL causing freezes it seems to happen on Twitch.tv as well though. With adblock enabled on both? Yeah Have you ever tried livestreamer?
what's that?
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On January 29 2016 19:27 The_Red_Viper wrote:The thing is: If he saved every liquibet he saved no liquibet at all
Honestly, I don't care about others, my results are what matters. I know I won't win the season, so I am glad to have good results
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On January 29 2016 19:27 The_Red_Viper wrote:The thing is: If he saved every liquibet he saved no liquibet at all
I saw someone earlier who said they picked Impact. All is not lost!
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On January 29 2016 19:28 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 19:28 Penev wrote:On January 29 2016 19:28 Heartland wrote:On January 29 2016 19:27 Penev wrote:On January 29 2016 19:26 Heartland wrote:On January 29 2016 19:26 Penev wrote:On January 29 2016 19:24 Heartland wrote:On January 29 2016 19:21 Penev wrote:On January 29 2016 19:17 Heartland wrote:On January 29 2016 19:17 Penev wrote:[quote] Not to make you jelly but in the Netherlands most trains have WiFi does it actually work? There's wifi in Swedish trains too... in theory and I seemed to have the latest graphic card update. :/ It does, don't travel by train myself much but I never heard any complaints about it ( just about security). Do you have adblock? Maybe it's the flash - TL thing What's that thing? And yes, I do have adblock. The ads on TL causing freezes it seems to happen on Twitch.tv as well though. With adblock enabled on both? Yeah Have you ever tried livestreamer? what's that?
+ Show Spoiler +
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Silly Solar, thinks it's thanks to him that protoss got nerfed :D
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On January 29 2016 19:30 Nebuchad wrote:
Silly Solar, thinks it's thanks to him that protoss got nerfed :D
Mirror, mirror on the wall; which race is the whiniest of them all?
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On January 29 2016 19:29 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 19:28 Heartland wrote:On January 29 2016 19:28 Penev wrote:On January 29 2016 19:28 Heartland wrote:On January 29 2016 19:27 Penev wrote:On January 29 2016 19:26 Heartland wrote:On January 29 2016 19:26 Penev wrote:On January 29 2016 19:24 Heartland wrote:On January 29 2016 19:21 Penev wrote:On January 29 2016 19:17 Heartland wrote:
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does it actually work? There's wifi in Swedish trains too... in theory
and I seemed to have the latest graphic card update. :/ It does, don't travel by train myself much but I never heard any complaints about it ( just about security). Do you have adblock? Maybe it's the flash - TL thing What's that thing? And yes, I do have adblock. The ads on TL causing freezes it seems to happen on Twitch.tv as well though. With adblock enabled on both? Yeah Have you ever tried livestreamer? what's that? + Show Spoiler +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o473rRwoJw0
I should try that I guess
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On January 29 2016 19:28 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 19:28 Heartland wrote:On January 29 2016 19:27 Penev wrote:On January 29 2016 19:26 Heartland wrote:On January 29 2016 19:26 Penev wrote:On January 29 2016 19:24 Heartland wrote:On January 29 2016 19:21 Penev wrote:On January 29 2016 19:17 Heartland wrote:On January 29 2016 19:17 Penev wrote:On January 29 2016 19:15 Arvendilin wrote:[quote] I'd aggree if german internet coverage was better, I have to catch a train and for most of the ride I won't have any access to internet, it freaking sucks Not to make you jelly but in the Netherlands most trains have WiFi does it actually work? There's wifi in Swedish trains too... in theory and I seemed to have the latest graphic card update. :/ It does, don't travel by train myself much but I never heard any complaints about it ( just about security). Do you have adblock? Maybe it's the flash - TL thing What's that thing? And yes, I do have adblock. The ads on TL causing freezes it seems to happen on Twitch.tv as well though. With adblock enabled on both? Yeah Have you ever tried livestreamer?
+1. I use it for quite some time since I deactivated flash.
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On January 29 2016 19:31 BeyondCtrL wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 19:30 Nebuchad wrote:
Silly Solar, thinks it's thanks to him that protoss got nerfed :D
Mirror, mirror on the wall; which race is the whiniest of them all?
I dare to say it's Terran, followed by Protoss and then Zerg Am I doing it right?
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My God, I now know why Tasteless has no passion! He has been using it as fuel for his K3 KIA!
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On January 29 2016 19:32 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 19:29 Penev wrote:On January 29 2016 19:28 Heartland wrote:On January 29 2016 19:28 Penev wrote:On January 29 2016 19:28 Heartland wrote:On January 29 2016 19:27 Penev wrote:On January 29 2016 19:26 Heartland wrote:On January 29 2016 19:26 Penev wrote:On January 29 2016 19:24 Heartland wrote:On January 29 2016 19:21 Penev wrote:
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It does, don't travel by train myself much but I never heard any complaints about it ( just about security).
Do you have adblock? Maybe it's the flash - TL thing What's that thing? And yes, I do have adblock. The ads on TL causing freezes it seems to happen on Twitch.tv as well though. With adblock enabled on both? Yeah Have you ever tried livestreamer? what's that? + Show Spoiler +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o473rRwoJw0 I should try that I guess
It is the best possible thing around. I went from medium at home to source It. Is. So. Good.
Imagine JD winning things combined with Flash winning things. That's how good it is
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On January 29 2016 19:29 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 19:27 The_Red_Viper wrote:The thing is: If he saved every liquibet he saved no liquibet at all Honestly, I don't care about others, my results are what matters. I know I won't win the season, so I am glad to have good results
Ah there is still hope left, anyone can win this season! :D
On January 29 2016 19:29 Phredxor wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 19:27 The_Red_Viper wrote:The thing is: If he saved every liquibet he saved no liquibet at all I saw someone earlier who said they picked Impact. All is not lost!
That's really the only way to get ahead though, haha.
Which is why i still think liquibets should be worked on, it could be way more fun...^^
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Plz Jjakji
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So Nada is doing a commercial for the K3 and they have a commercial for a sc2 mod? Thet's pretty cool
Also of course they still use BW legends for commercials. Thorin made a point that when you talk about starcraft to koreans, they will always mention Boxer, Yellow, Nada etc, but nobody knows any sc2 players.
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God I just love the new production value of GSL :D
Don't like the amount of # tho
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He really didn't know about that? That's one of the funny things human body does
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On January 29 2016 19:39 Arvendilin wrote:
God I just love the new production value of GSL :D
Don't like the amount of # tho
#StopHashtaggingEverything
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On January 29 2016 19:38 Musicus wrote:So Nada is doing a commercial for the K3 and they have a commercial for a sc2 mod? Thet's pretty cool Also of course they still use BW legends for commercials. Thorin made a point that when you talk about starcraft to koreans, they will always mention Boxer, Yellow, Nada etc, but nobody knows any sc2 players.
But you forget that those players tried SC2 too. Not so much Yellow but he did dabble in it In a few years time it will only get SC2 players more fame. Pretty sure sOs and Life are household names in Korea surely, due to the vast amounts of money they have won compared to other SC pros.
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On January 29 2016 19:40 Noonius wrote:here's what's gonna happen + Show Spoiler +ADEPTS, ADEPTS EVERYWHERE
He better use it while he can. It's the end of an era man!
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Thorin's point was that a lot of people still think esports is that huge in korea, the truth is that most people don't know any esport players. Except of Boxer and some others.
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On January 29 2016 19:40 Noonius wrote:here's what's gonna happen + Show Spoiler +ADEPTS, ADEPTS EVERYWHERE
Another proxy robo too maybe?
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On January 29 2016 19:40 Noonius wrote:here's what's gonna happen + Show Spoiler +ADEPTS, ADEPTS EVERYWHERE
I like Classic more than jjakji. Therefore I am OK with that.
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On January 29 2016 19:41 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Thorin's point was that a lot of people still think esports is that huge in korea, the truth is that most people don't know any esport players. Except of Boxer and some others.
I'd say someone like Faker is pretty well known in Korea.
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On January 29 2016 19:37 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 19:32 Heartland wrote:On January 29 2016 19:29 Penev wrote:On January 29 2016 19:28 Heartland wrote:On January 29 2016 19:28 Penev wrote:On January 29 2016 19:28 Heartland wrote:On January 29 2016 19:27 Penev wrote:On January 29 2016 19:26 Heartland wrote:On January 29 2016 19:26 Penev wrote:On January 29 2016 19:24 Heartland wrote:
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What's that thing? And yes, I do have adblock. The ads on TL causing freezes it seems to happen on Twitch.tv as well though. With adblock enabled on both? Yeah Have you ever tried livestreamer? what's that? + Show Spoiler +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o473rRwoJw0 I should try that I guess It is the best possible thing around. I went from medium at home to source It. Is. So. Good. Imagine JD winning things combined with Flash winning things. That's how good it is
What player are you using for it?
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classic gonna abuse adepts hard, rip jjakji
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Gogo Classic, adept him
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On January 29 2016 19:42 Phredxor wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 19:41 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Thorin's point was that a lot of people still think esports is that huge in korea, the truth is that most people don't know any esport players. Except of Boxer and some others. I'd say someone like Faker is pretty well known in Korea.
I don't know but i would be surprised tbh
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On January 29 2016 19:42 Phredxor wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 19:41 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Thorin's point was that a lot of people still think esports is that huge in korea, the truth is that most people don't know any esport players. Except of Boxer and some others. I'd say someone like Faker is pretty well known in Korea.
Yes, but not like Boxer or Yellow, esports never got as massive as the early 2000's, like for another BW superstar if you take FlaSh, even he is not nearly as well known as boxer or yellow (yellow even more well known than boxer btw) to the public, because he doesn't do stuff outside of progaming really
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I think it's hilarious that Blizzard named that unit adept knowing that the word meant someone who is an expert or skilled. A rather subtle diss
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On January 29 2016 19:42 Arvendilin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 19:37 deacon.frost wrote:On January 29 2016 19:32 Heartland wrote:On January 29 2016 19:29 Penev wrote:On January 29 2016 19:28 Heartland wrote:On January 29 2016 19:28 Penev wrote:On January 29 2016 19:28 Heartland wrote:On January 29 2016 19:27 Penev wrote:On January 29 2016 19:26 Heartland wrote:On January 29 2016 19:26 Penev wrote:
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The ads on TL causing freezes it seems to happen on Twitch.tv as well though. With adblock enabled on both? Yeah Have you ever tried livestreamer? what's that? + Show Spoiler +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o473rRwoJw0 I should try that I guess It is the best possible thing around. I went from medium at home to source It. Is. So. Good. Imagine JD winning things combined with Flash winning things. That's how good it is What player are you using for it?
VLC at work, MPC HC at 1 PC, VLC at other. I really don't care, I think both players are equally good for this. The PCs with VLC - I am(was) too lazy to edit the config file to default MPC
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On January 29 2016 19:45 Noonius wrote:
I think it's hilarious that Blizzard named that unit adept knowing that the word meant someone who is an expert or skilled. A rather subtle diss
well, it's better than "liberator"
eww
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jjakji is making me happy right now
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On January 29 2016 19:40 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 19:38 Musicus wrote:So Nada is doing a commercial for the K3 and they have a commercial for a sc2 mod? Thet's pretty cool Also of course they still use BW legends for commercials. Thorin made a point that when you talk about starcraft to koreans, they will always mention Boxer, Yellow, Nada etc, but nobody knows any sc2 players. But you forget that those players tried SC2 too. Not so much Yellow but he did dabble in it In a few years time it will only get SC2 players more fame. Pretty sure sOs and Life are household names in Korea surely, due to the vast amounts of money they have won compared to other SC pros.
Hm, I don't know man. No matter how much money Showtime makes this year, I don't think a lot of Germans will know about him. I think nowadays it's the same for sc2 in Korea. It can't be compared to back then, when BW was on TV all the time, the freaking prime minister was in the crowd and people just knew about it, whether they were esports fans or not.
Btw I'm completely fine witht that and not complaining. Just interesting how much influence BW had, how huge it was and that even today they will choose BW players to film a commercial.
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On January 29 2016 19:45 Noonius wrote:
I think it's hilarious that Blizzard named that unit adept knowing that the word meant someone who is an expert or skilled. A rather subtle diss
Agreed, I think this unit should have been named Discobolus
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On January 29 2016 19:45 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 19:42 Arvendilin wrote:On January 29 2016 19:37 deacon.frost wrote:On January 29 2016 19:32 Heartland wrote:On January 29 2016 19:29 Penev wrote:On January 29 2016 19:28 Heartland wrote:On January 29 2016 19:28 Penev wrote:On January 29 2016 19:28 Heartland wrote:On January 29 2016 19:27 Penev wrote:On January 29 2016 19:26 Heartland wrote:
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it seems to happen on Twitch.tv as well though. With adblock enabled on both? Yeah Have you ever tried livestreamer? what's that? + Show Spoiler +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o473rRwoJw0 I should try that I guess It is the best possible thing around. I went from medium at home to source It. Is. So. Good. Imagine JD winning things combined with Flash winning things. That's how good it is What player are you using for it? VLC at work, MPC HC at 1 PC, VLC at other. I really don't care, I think both players are equally good for this. The PCs with VLC - I am(was) too lazy to edit the config file to default MPC
I'll try it aswell then after these matches, thanks :D
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Jjakji just dumped hard on that adept crap by Classic, he should win easy now
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Wow nerf warp prism vision? The ship was no where near the adepts and they jumped in it. Strongest gravitational beam ever made?
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When I said don't build marauders last time, this is what I was talking about, for future reference.
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Two depots to mess with stalker AI. Every T should do this every game.
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On January 29 2016 19:48 Pandemona wrote:
Wow nerf warp prism vision? The ship was no where near the adepts and they jumped in it. Strongest gravitational beam ever made?
Heard of teleport?
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Cool moves by Classic, not sure it's gonna kill jjakji though.
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Those depots were kind of mvp right there lol
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On January 29 2016 19:38 Musicus wrote:So Nada is doing a commercial for the K3 and they have a commercial for a sc2 mod? Thet's pretty cool Also of course they still use BW legends for commercials. Thorin made a point that when you talk about starcraft to koreans, they will always mention Boxer, Yellow, Nada etc, but nobody knows any sc2 players.
yeah rofl. I can easily mention starcraft 1 to most people and they at least know yellow
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I am really smiling over their "people are getting better and better" with the incoming nerf
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Now he has to try to deny 4th without having storm. Really set behind by not teching because of the timing attack.
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On January 29 2016 19:51 deacon.frost wrote:I am really smiling over their "people are getting better and better" with the incoming nerf
Oh lol I thought this was post patch for some reason
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No ghosts to be seen. Jjakji to get stormed to death?
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On January 29 2016 19:52 Noonius wrote:
jjakji is no TY
Who the hell is, TY is a god at the moment
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I wonder if the correct way to use Blink Stalkers vs Liberators is to Blink into the liberation zone, or to walk into the zone and then Blink out
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Gogo Classic collect those Terran Tears for me :D
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The thing is that terran could have died at pretty much any point. Now it's simply an even game^^
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So, except for the opening(adepts) - this is basically back to Templar 2 forge from WoL with adepts instead of zealots.
Hmmm... not sure how I like LotV.
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Mass protoss units fighting hard against the flying freedom right now.
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That drop got shut down so hard..
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On January 29 2016 19:50 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 19:48 Pandemona wrote:
Wow nerf warp prism vision? The ship was no where near the adepts and they jumped in it. Strongest gravitational beam ever made? Heard of teleport?
U can't teleport to a ship thats cheating TT
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On January 29 2016 19:55 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 19:50 HellHound wrote:On January 29 2016 19:48 Pandemona wrote:
Wow nerf warp prism vision? The ship was no where near the adepts and they jumped in it. Strongest gravitational beam ever made? Heard of teleport? U can't teleport to a ship thats cheating TT
i wish you could Blink into Prisms
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On January 29 2016 19:55 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 19:55 Pandemona wrote:On January 29 2016 19:50 HellHound wrote:On January 29 2016 19:48 Pandemona wrote:
Wow nerf warp prism vision? The ship was no where near the adepts and they jumped in it. Strongest gravitational beam ever made? Heard of teleport? U can't teleport to a ship thats cheating TT i wish you could Blink into Prisms
I mean with the pickup range they have, it kinda looks like everything can
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jjajki really is playing "ty style" right now...turtled up and sending libs out
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On January 29 2016 19:55 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 19:50 HellHound wrote:On January 29 2016 19:48 Pandemona wrote:
Wow nerf warp prism vision? The ship was no where near the adepts and they jumped in it. Strongest gravitational beam ever made? Heard of teleport? U can't teleport to a ship thats cheating TT
crappy(fantasy in space) science fiction is cheating from the start so what's the problem?
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On January 29 2016 19:54 The_Red_Viper wrote:
The thing is that terran could have died at pretty much any point. Now it's simply an even game^^
It didn't really feel like he could die at any point, I thought his defense was tight. And we shouldn't forget Classic is better than jjakji.
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The freedom is strong with J-god
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On January 29 2016 19:56 Sif_ wrote:
jjajki really is playing "ty style" right now...turtled up and sending libs out
So we changed the Hots style of games to LotV so Protoss no more turtles into deathball and right now it's Terran who turtles into deathball. The irony
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On January 29 2016 19:54 The_Red_Viper wrote:
The thing is that terran could have died at pretty much any point. Now it's simply an even game^^
It is not even tho, Terran is pretty lategame favored, thats like saying in HotS lategame is even just because both have the same worker count/upgrades
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Tempests + Storms, i think jjakji is dead
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On January 29 2016 19:59 Topdoller wrote:
Tempests + Storms, i think jjakji is dead
Well. He's ahead because he's doing what you're supposed to at this point.
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On January 29 2016 19:58 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 19:56 Sif_ wrote:
jjajki really is playing "ty style" right now...turtled up and sending libs out So we changed the Hots style of games to LotV so Protoss no more turtles into deathball and right now it's Terran who turtles into deathball. The irony
Tis is more polt than ty
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And we're back into "Protoss cannot defend multiple bases"? Please no
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so much artosis passion today
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Jjakji reminding people he actually has a title :O
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god I hate Terran sometimes : P
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J-god looking the goods. TY's turn to drag KT into contention this year!
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On January 29 2016 20:00 deacon.frost wrote:And we're back into "Protoss cannot defend multiple bases"? Please no
Unfortunately Blizz didn't want to experiment with defenders advantage
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Well. 20 army supply down the drain. Classic might have a chance.
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On January 29 2016 20:00 deacon.frost wrote:And we're back into "Protoss cannot defend multiple bases"? Please no
It's very difficult to defend your bases in the bottom right corner of the map when you move your entire army in the top left corner of the map.
Maybe we should make warpgates be able to warp in cannons to address this issue.
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Awful engagement. Jjakji got greedy
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wtf is this game even lol
Gogo Classic you are the better player :D
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Wow that push by J-god was awful. Trying his best to throw this.
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lol jjakji ran his bio under the storm
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Ahah that engagement. Very good game.
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Classic just has infinite parasitic bombs
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why would you get ghosts then engage without landing any emps...
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On January 29 2016 20:02 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 20:00 deacon.frost wrote:And we're back into "Protoss cannot defend multiple bases"? Please no It's very difficult to defend your bases in the bottom right corner of the map when you move your entire army in the top left corner of the map. Maybe we should make warpgates be able to warp in cannons to address this issue.
Bring back phase cannons.
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Charlie Sheens House51452 Posts
On January 29 2016 19:57 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 19:55 Pandemona wrote:On January 29 2016 19:50 HellHound wrote:On January 29 2016 19:48 Pandemona wrote:
Wow nerf warp prism vision? The ship was no where near the adepts and they jumped in it. Strongest gravitational beam ever made? Heard of teleport? U can't teleport to a ship thats cheating TT crappy(fantasy in space) science fiction is cheating from the start so what's the problem?
That the range is unfair
The warp prism had like 100hp or under left (including shield) it should have died along with the 4 adepts from how cheeky that pick up was, considering marines and a cyclone which has huge range as it is were hitting it and still warp prism out of range and picks up and leaves.
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On January 29 2016 19:57 Nebuchad wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 19:54 The_Red_Viper wrote:
The thing is that terran could have died at pretty much any point. Now it's simply an even game^^ It didn't really feel like he could die at any point, I thought his defense was tight. And we shouldn't forget Classic is better than jjakji.
I don't know, if classic did a little bit better with his harass and his attack (especially his attack) he would have been quite ahead imo.
We can assume that Classic is the better player because of their hots feats, but that's really just an assumption tbh. (not that i would disagree with the statement)
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why no chargealots for Protoss?
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On January 29 2016 20:02 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 20:00 deacon.frost wrote:And we're back into "Protoss cannot defend multiple bases"? Please no It's very difficult to defend your bases in the bottom right corner of the map when you move your entire army in the top left corner of the map. Maybe we should make warpgates be able to warp in cannons to address this issue.
Yeah, you'd basically need a spell that can teleport your whole army to a base.
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Charlie Sheens House51452 Posts
Perfect concave from Classic, no chance :D
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oh no, protoss took some damage in the mid game
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Excellent game from Classic.
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Good game. Nice throw by Jjakji.
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Viking pilots are suicidle
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On January 29 2016 20:05 Heartland wrote:
why no chargealots for Protoss?
no need apparently
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lol such storm micro! many wows
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Have we seen a PvT go that long?
Maybe that TY game on Lerilak.
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You can't win again gateway without liberator support.
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Jjajki looked pretty good but his execution was a bit off. Losing too many units idling and bathing in storm showers.
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Charlie Sheens House51452 Posts
Poll: Recommend Classic vs jjakji Game 1Excellent Game (21) 68% Good Game (7) 23% Meh Game (3) 10% Bad Game (0) 0% 31 total votes Your vote: Recommend Classic vs jjakji Game 1 (Vote): Excellent Game
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All those Protoss that say Terran is OP lategame in TvP should remember that storm exists.
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Sit in storms some more as well jjakji, that's a good way to throw the game. Honestly I lost count of how many units he lost due to storms alone, probably near triple digits this game.
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On January 29 2016 20:05 Big J wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 20:02 HellHound wrote:On January 29 2016 20:00 deacon.frost wrote:And we're back into "Protoss cannot defend multiple bases"? Please no It's very difficult to defend your bases in the bottom right corner of the map when you move your entire army in the top left corner of the map. Maybe we should make warpgates be able to warp in cannons to address this issue. Yeah, you'd basically need a spell that can teleport your whole army to a base.
Well you need to leave the unit at home to overcharge pylons
Return the arbiter, remove MSC
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On January 29 2016 20:06 Noonius wrote:no need apparently
Adepts are slightly better. You get chargelots to be able to afford templar better. But he had enough.
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It looked Classic was half dead after the huge drop + mass liberators in the back natural, but the bad push into storms brought him back to the game.
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On January 29 2016 20:05 Big J wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 20:02 HellHound wrote:On January 29 2016 20:00 deacon.frost wrote:And we're back into "Protoss cannot defend multiple bases"? Please no It's very difficult to defend your bases in the bottom right corner of the map when you move your entire army in the top left corner of the map. Maybe we should make warpgates be able to warp in cannons to address this issue. Yeah, you'd basically need a spell that can teleport your whole army to a base.
Would be much better if we implement a spell that can teleport your whole base to your army tbh
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Shameless advertising
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He just a move liberators and vikings into tempest even he knew classic have alot HTs.
That was throw.
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On January 29 2016 20:04 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 19:57 Nebuchad wrote:On January 29 2016 19:54 The_Red_Viper wrote:
The thing is that terran could have died at pretty much any point. Now it's simply an even game^^ It didn't really feel like he could die at any point, I thought his defense was tight. And we shouldn't forget Classic is better than jjakji. I don't know, if classic did a little bit better with his harass and his attack (especially his attack) he would have been quite ahead imo. We can assume that Classic is the better player because of their hots feats, but that's really just an assumption tbh. (not that i would disagree with the statement)
I don't know how you do better with harass against that build, assuming there isn't mistakes from the terran.
And no we think Classic is the better player because he has better results, has shown better games for longer against a better opposition. We can also observe the game and see jjakji make a lot more mistakes than Classic did (eating every storm at Classic's natural with the 4 liberator 3 medivac attack, forget the two medivacs behind Classic's base for the tempest, eat all the storm at the key engage...) If we can't even say Classic is better than jjakji we can never say a protoss is better than a terran.
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On January 29 2016 20:08 Penev wrote:Shameless advertising
Well he has the power .
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On January 29 2016 20:07 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 20:05 Big J wrote:On January 29 2016 20:02 HellHound wrote:On January 29 2016 20:00 deacon.frost wrote:And we're back into "Protoss cannot defend multiple bases"? Please no It's very difficult to defend your bases in the bottom right corner of the map when you move your entire army in the top left corner of the map. Maybe we should make warpgates be able to warp in cannons to address this issue. Yeah, you'd basically need a spell that can teleport your whole army to a base. Well you need to leave the unit at home to overcharge pylons Return the arbiter, remove MSC
I'm still waiting for players to realize how broken 50 energy recall is.
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On January 29 2016 20:09 seemsgood wrote:
He just a move liberators and vikings into tempest even he knew classic have alot HTs.
That was throw.
It's his specialty
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Talking about nukes and hyping for them in Soul, Korea. Every time gets me
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On January 29 2016 20:10 deacon.frost wrote:Talking about nukes and hyping for them in Soul, Korea. Every time gets me
Luckily they're not in Japan
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Charlie Sheens House51452 Posts
On January 29 2016 20:10 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 20:10 deacon.frost wrote:Talking about nukes and hyping for them in Soul, Korea. Every time gets me Luckily they're not in Japan
But uncle Kim Jong-Un give no fucks it seems
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On January 29 2016 20:10 Pandemona wrote:News'd it
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LOL quick third without any punishment.
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On January 29 2016 20:09 Big J wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 20:07 deacon.frost wrote:On January 29 2016 20:05 Big J wrote:On January 29 2016 20:02 HellHound wrote:On January 29 2016 20:00 deacon.frost wrote:And we're back into "Protoss cannot defend multiple bases"? Please no It's very difficult to defend your bases in the bottom right corner of the map when you move your entire army in the top left corner of the map. Maybe we should make warpgates be able to warp in cannons to address this issue. Yeah, you'd basically need a spell that can teleport your whole army to a base. Well you need to leave the unit at home to overcharge pylons Return the arbiter, remove MSC I'm still waiting for players to realize how broken 50 energy recall is.
If MSC was fast enough to follow the army all the way to the enemy base, I'm sure all protoss would use it.
As it stands, MSC is better of defending against liberator harass, considering those things can't shoot at pylons.
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The glow. The beautiful glow!!!
They reminded me the nuclear general from C&C Generals
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On January 29 2016 20:11 seemsgood wrote:
LOL quick third without any punishment.
They both got quick thirds.
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On January 29 2016 20:09 Nebuchad wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 20:04 The_Red_Viper wrote:On January 29 2016 19:57 Nebuchad wrote:On January 29 2016 19:54 The_Red_Viper wrote:
The thing is that terran could have died at pretty much any point. Now it's simply an even game^^ It didn't really feel like he could die at any point, I thought his defense was tight. And we shouldn't forget Classic is better than jjakji. I don't know, if classic did a little bit better with his harass and his attack (especially his attack) he would have been quite ahead imo. We can assume that Classic is the better player because of their hots feats, but that's really just an assumption tbh. (not that i would disagree with the statement) I don't know how you do better with harass against that build, assuming there isn't mistakes from the terran. And no we think Classic is the better player because he has better results, has shown better games for longer against a better opposition. We can also observe the game and see jjakji make a lot more mistakes than Classic did (eating every storm at Classic's natural with the 4 liberator 3 medivac attack, forget the two medivacs behind Classic's base for the tempest, eat all the storm at the key engage...) If we can't even say Classic is better than jjakji we can never say a protoss is better than a terran.
You don't think he could have killed more workers than 7? The whole point of this is to kill workers, adepts two shot workers, he did a pretty BAD job at killing workers
This isn't about terran or protoss. It's just that it's a new game, results in hots only matter so much.
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On January 29 2016 20:12 Phredxor wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 20:11 seemsgood wrote:
LOL quick third without any punishment. They both got quick thirds.
Yea but one is Terran so its fine.
The other play however is Protoss so its kinda really imba that he gets a third base so easily, blizz please
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On January 29 2016 20:13 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 20:11 Musicus wrote:On January 29 2016 20:10 Pandemona wrote:News'd it I'm a bit slow on stuff these days, having to do like 4 peoples job because they all died. Like anyone remember Lorning? he left me so i have to do all LRs and make them all. On top of that i have to sell tyres or i got not monies haha
RIP Lorning.
You should get TL to let you put advertisements in your OP's to help you make money or something
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Charlie Sheens House51452 Posts
Starting to think Classic's favorite unit is the Phoenix.
On January 29 2016 20:14 Phredxor wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 20:13 Pandemona wrote:On January 29 2016 20:11 Musicus wrote:On January 29 2016 20:10 Pandemona wrote:News'd it I'm a bit slow on stuff these days, having to do like 4 peoples job because they all died. Like anyone remember Lorning? he left me so i have to do all LRs and make them all. On top of that i have to sell tyres or i got not monies haha RIP Lorning. You should get TL to let you put advertisements in your OP's to help you make money or something
Haha would help i guess :3
But most nerds seem to adhere to public transport but i guess all helps! We are the cheapest too!
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Wow Tasteless... Cancelling a super fast 7 min fourth isn't going to force somebody to counter all-in >_>.
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On January 29 2016 20:11 Salteador Neo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 20:09 Big J wrote:On January 29 2016 20:07 deacon.frost wrote:On January 29 2016 20:05 Big J wrote:On January 29 2016 20:02 HellHound wrote:On January 29 2016 20:00 deacon.frost wrote:And we're back into "Protoss cannot defend multiple bases"? Please no It's very difficult to defend your bases in the bottom right corner of the map when you move your entire army in the top left corner of the map. Maybe we should make warpgates be able to warp in cannons to address this issue. Yeah, you'd basically need a spell that can teleport your whole army to a base. Well you need to leave the unit at home to overcharge pylons Return the arbiter, remove MSC I'm still waiting for players to realize how broken 50 energy recall is. If MSC was fast enough to follow the army all the way to the enemy base, I'm sure all protoss would use it. As it stands, MSC is better of defending against liberator harass, considering those things can't shoot at pylons.
I don't really see this interaction at all past 7-8mins. None of the liberators last game were defended with an MsC.
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On January 29 2016 20:13 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 20:11 Musicus wrote:On January 29 2016 20:10 Pandemona wrote:News'd it I'm a bit slow on stuff these days, having to do like 4 peoples job because they all died. Like anyone remember Lorning? he left me so i have to do all LRs and make them all. On top of that i have to sell tyres or i got not monies haha
lmao, well RIP Lorning
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On January 29 2016 20:13 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 20:11 Musicus wrote:On January 29 2016 20:10 Pandemona wrote:News'd it I'm a bit slow on stuff these days, having to do like 4 peoples job because they all died. Like anyone remember Lorning? he left me so i have to do all LRs and make them all. On top of that i have to sell tyres or i got not monies haha
I'm with you on the no monies part
Hmmm maybe you should try to get a disciple and teach them the ways of the LR? :0
I for one have no idea how one would properly set one up thats not complete dogshit
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On January 29 2016 20:09 Nebuchad wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 20:04 The_Red_Viper wrote:On January 29 2016 19:57 Nebuchad wrote:On January 29 2016 19:54 The_Red_Viper wrote:
The thing is that terran could have died at pretty much any point. Now it's simply an even game^^ It didn't really feel like he could die at any point, I thought his defense was tight. And we shouldn't forget Classic is better than jjakji. I don't know, if classic did a little bit better with his harass and his attack (especially his attack) he would have been quite ahead imo. We can assume that Classic is the better player because of their hots feats, but that's really just an assumption tbh. (not that i would disagree with the statement) I don't know how you do better with harass against that build, assuming there isn't mistakes from the terran. And no we think Classic is the better player because he has better results, has shown better games for longer against a better opposition. We can also observe the game and see jjakji make a lot more mistakes than Classic did (eating every storm at Classic's natural with the 4 liberator 3 medivac attack, forget the two medivacs behind Classic's base for the tempest, eat all the storm at the key engage...) If we can't even say Classic is better than jjakji we can never say a protoss is better than a terran.
We could say the same thing about Byun, by HotS standards he is a way worst player than almost everybody hes played against (parting form example) so no, you cant say Classic is better than Jjakji just because hots results.
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On January 29 2016 20:14 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 20:09 Nebuchad wrote:On January 29 2016 20:04 The_Red_Viper wrote:On January 29 2016 19:57 Nebuchad wrote:On January 29 2016 19:54 The_Red_Viper wrote:
The thing is that terran could have died at pretty much any point. Now it's simply an even game^^ It didn't really feel like he could die at any point, I thought his defense was tight. And we shouldn't forget Classic is better than jjakji. I don't know, if classic did a little bit better with his harass and his attack (especially his attack) he would have been quite ahead imo. We can assume that Classic is the better player because of their hots feats, but that's really just an assumption tbh. (not that i would disagree with the statement) I don't know how you do better with harass against that build, assuming there isn't mistakes from the terran. And no we think Classic is the better player because he has better results, has shown better games for longer against a better opposition. We can also observe the game and see jjakji make a lot more mistakes than Classic did (eating every storm at Classic's natural with the 4 liberator 3 medivac attack, forget the two medivacs behind Classic's base for the tempest, eat all the storm at the key engage...) If we can't even say Classic is better than jjakji we can never say a protoss is better than a terran. You don't think he could have killed more workers than 7? The whole point of this is to kill workers, adepts two shot workers, he did a pretty BAD job at killing workers This isn't about terran or protoss. It's just that it's a new game, results in hots only matter so much.
Against that build I don't know that you can kill a lot of workers if the terran doesn't mess up, no. Against a build like Bomber's vs Seed of course 7 is terrible.
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On January 29 2016 20:16 Lexender wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 20:09 Nebuchad wrote:On January 29 2016 20:04 The_Red_Viper wrote:On January 29 2016 19:57 Nebuchad wrote:On January 29 2016 19:54 The_Red_Viper wrote:
The thing is that terran could have died at pretty much any point. Now it's simply an even game^^ It didn't really feel like he could die at any point, I thought his defense was tight. And we shouldn't forget Classic is better than jjakji. I don't know, if classic did a little bit better with his harass and his attack (especially his attack) he would have been quite ahead imo. We can assume that Classic is the better player because of their hots feats, but that's really just an assumption tbh. (not that i would disagree with the statement) I don't know how you do better with harass against that build, assuming there isn't mistakes from the terran. And no we think Classic is the better player because he has better results, has shown better games for longer against a better opposition. We can also observe the game and see jjakji make a lot more mistakes than Classic did (eating every storm at Classic's natural with the 4 liberator 3 medivac attack, forget the two medivacs behind Classic's base for the tempest, eat all the storm at the key engage...) If we can't even say Classic is better than jjakji we can never say a protoss is better than a terran. We could say the same thing about Byun, by HotS standards he is a way worst player than almost everybody hes played against (parting form example) so no, you cant say Classic is better than Jjakji just because hots results.
Which is why I also mentioned LotV, like precisely the game we just saw? Come on guys.
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On January 29 2016 20:16 Arvendilin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 20:13 Pandemona wrote:On January 29 2016 20:11 Musicus wrote:On January 29 2016 20:10 Pandemona wrote:News'd it I'm a bit slow on stuff these days, having to do like 4 peoples job because they all died. Like anyone remember Lorning? he left me so i have to do all LRs and make them all. On top of that i have to sell tyres or i got not monies haha I'm with you on the no monies part Hmmm maybe you should try to get a disciple and teach them the ways of the LR? :0 I for one have no idea how one would properly set one up thats not complete dogshit
The format is already made for you by some other kind person (Used to be Lorning, I assume Pande now), you just need to update it and do polls n junk.
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Wow, what a waste of liberators with that drop. What's up with jjakji?
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Charlie Sheens House51452 Posts
On January 29 2016 20:16 Arvendilin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 20:13 Pandemona wrote:On January 29 2016 20:11 Musicus wrote:On January 29 2016 20:10 Pandemona wrote:News'd it I'm a bit slow on stuff these days, having to do like 4 peoples job because they all died. Like anyone remember Lorning? he left me so i have to do all LRs and make them all. On top of that i have to sell tyres or i got not monies haha I'm with you on the no monies part Hmmm maybe you should try to get a disciple and teach them the ways of the LR? :0 I for one have no idea how one would properly set one up thats not complete dogshit
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/339146-sc2-lr-resources?page=93
All the LRs are pre made, it just becomes a copy paste exercise for whoever wants to do it for said day.
Hit the quote button, copy it all, create new thread in tournament section. Copy out the red text and use it as thread name (just to help us keep everything the same). Update the op with who wins and the maps. Add polls for recommend games and you are good. Literally just filling in the blank exercise as i can always do the pre made OPs for everyone
If you want to try you can try one of the Pro League matches next week if you want as im always around and can help out too. As we split each pro league match into an individual thread
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q about game 1, how do terrans beat storm tempest?
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On January 29 2016 20:17 Nebuchad wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 20:16 Lexender wrote:On January 29 2016 20:09 Nebuchad wrote:On January 29 2016 20:04 The_Red_Viper wrote:On January 29 2016 19:57 Nebuchad wrote:On January 29 2016 19:54 The_Red_Viper wrote:
The thing is that terran could have died at pretty much any point. Now it's simply an even game^^ It didn't really feel like he could die at any point, I thought his defense was tight. And we shouldn't forget Classic is better than jjakji. I don't know, if classic did a little bit better with his harass and his attack (especially his attack) he would have been quite ahead imo. We can assume that Classic is the better player because of their hots feats, but that's really just an assumption tbh. (not that i would disagree with the statement) I don't know how you do better with harass against that build, assuming there isn't mistakes from the terran. And no we think Classic is the better player because he has better results, has shown better games for longer against a better opposition. We can also observe the game and see jjakji make a lot more mistakes than Classic did (eating every storm at Classic's natural with the 4 liberator 3 medivac attack, forget the two medivacs behind Classic's base for the tempest, eat all the storm at the key engage...) If we can't even say Classic is better than jjakji we can never say a protoss is better than a terran. We could say the same thing about Byun, by HotS standards he is a way worst player than almost everybody hes played against (parting form example) so no, you cant say Classic is better than Jjakji just because hots results. Which is why I also mentioned LotV, like precisely the game we just saw? Come on guys.
I think at Blizzcon Artosis kept going on about how underrated Classic is considering what a beast he is, and he said that next year at Blizzcon people will still underrate Classic. Looks like he was right .
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Classic attacks into convex and storms his way to victory ..GG
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Charlie Sheens House51452 Posts
Poll: Recommend Classic vs jjakji Game 2Good Game (10) 71% Meh Game (2) 14% Excellent Game (1) 7% Bad Game (1) 7% 14 total votes Your vote: Recommend Classic vs jjakji Game 2 (Vote): Excellent Game
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He's no TY, that's for certain. Just roll over and die in game3 jjakji.
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On January 29 2016 20:15 Big J wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 20:11 Salteador Neo wrote:On January 29 2016 20:09 Big J wrote:On January 29 2016 20:07 deacon.frost wrote:On January 29 2016 20:05 Big J wrote:On January 29 2016 20:02 HellHound wrote:On January 29 2016 20:00 deacon.frost wrote:And we're back into "Protoss cannot defend multiple bases"? Please no It's very difficult to defend your bases in the bottom right corner of the map when you move your entire army in the top left corner of the map. Maybe we should make warpgates be able to warp in cannons to address this issue. Yeah, you'd basically need a spell that can teleport your whole army to a base. Well you need to leave the unit at home to overcharge pylons Return the arbiter, remove MSC I'm still waiting for players to realize how broken 50 energy recall is. If MSC was fast enough to follow the army all the way to the enemy base, I'm sure all protoss would use it. As it stands, MSC is better of defending against liberator harass, considering those things can't shoot at pylons. I don't really see this interaction at all past 7-8mins. None of the liberators last game were defended with an MsC.
I know, I think we didn't even see the MSC most game lol. I was just talking in general, not about that specific game.
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On January 29 2016 20:19 Topdoller wrote:
Classic attacks into convex and storms his way to victory ..GG
jjakji lost a big part of his army doing nothing.
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On January 29 2016 20:17 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 20:16 Arvendilin wrote:On January 29 2016 20:13 Pandemona wrote:On January 29 2016 20:11 Musicus wrote:On January 29 2016 20:10 Pandemona wrote:News'd it I'm a bit slow on stuff these days, having to do like 4 peoples job because they all died. Like anyone remember Lorning? he left me so i have to do all LRs and make them all. On top of that i have to sell tyres or i got not monies haha I'm with you on the no monies part Hmmm maybe you should try to get a disciple and teach them the ways of the LR? :0 I for one have no idea how one would properly set one up thats not complete dogshit http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/339146-sc2-lr-resources?page=93All the LRs are pre made, it just becomes a copy paste exercise for whoever wants to do it for said day. Hit the quote button, copy it all, create new thread in tournament section. Copy out the red text and use it as thread name (just to help us keep everything the same). Update the op with who wins and the maps. Add polls for recommend games and you are good. Literally just filling in the blank exercise as i can always do the pre made OPs for everyone If you want to try you can try one of the Pro League matches next week if you want as im always around and can help out too. As we split each pro league match into an individual thread
Hmm that does sound relatively easy indeed :D
I will try it if an opportunity arrises, generally have university tho so probably would only be able to weekends
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those 5 pylon cannons right before the victory screen pretty much sums up protoss
also, jjakji got screwed with the patch release
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On January 29 2016 20:18 Killmouse wrote:
q about game 1, how do terrans beat storm tempest?
you need to zone HTs with ranged upgrade liberator so tempest can't get support from ground when attack liberator.
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On January 29 2016 20:18 Killmouse wrote:
q about game 1, how do terrans beat storm tempest?
Jjakji had a pretty good idea of that didn't he? At some point Classic wasn't mining at all and had only his first two nexus left. I'm pretty sure he had the game won if he didn't engage the way he did at the end. At the very least you can just continue not to engage and go kill buildings, there's no way Classic wins a base trade from that point on.
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On January 29 2016 20:16 Nebuchad wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 20:14 The_Red_Viper wrote:On January 29 2016 20:09 Nebuchad wrote:On January 29 2016 20:04 The_Red_Viper wrote:On January 29 2016 19:57 Nebuchad wrote:On January 29 2016 19:54 The_Red_Viper wrote:
The thing is that terran could have died at pretty much any point. Now it's simply an even game^^ It didn't really feel like he could die at any point, I thought his defense was tight. And we shouldn't forget Classic is better than jjakji. I don't know, if classic did a little bit better with his harass and his attack (especially his attack) he would have been quite ahead imo. We can assume that Classic is the better player because of their hots feats, but that's really just an assumption tbh. (not that i would disagree with the statement) I don't know how you do better with harass against that build, assuming there isn't mistakes from the terran. And no we think Classic is the better player because he has better results, has shown better games for longer against a better opposition. We can also observe the game and see jjakji make a lot more mistakes than Classic did (eating every storm at Classic's natural with the 4 liberator 3 medivac attack, forget the two medivacs behind Classic's base for the tempest, eat all the storm at the key engage...) If we can't even say Classic is better than jjakji we can never say a protoss is better than a terran. You don't think he could have killed more workers than 7? The whole point of this is to kill workers, adepts two shot workers, he did a pretty BAD job at killing workers This isn't about terran or protoss. It's just that it's a new game, results in hots only matter so much. Against that build I don't know that you can kill a lot of workers if the terran doesn't mess up, no. Against a build like Bomber's vs Seed of course 7 is terrible.
I don't agree that he couldn't have executed that better tbh. But whatever, Classic probably is just the better player.
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it's pretty fucked up when terran has to bunker his 1st and 2nd mineral line as well as 2 bunkers at the front to not get fucked by adept
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How would you do the stars for the polls?
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On January 29 2016 20:20 Arvendilin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 20:17 Pandemona wrote:On January 29 2016 20:16 Arvendilin wrote:On January 29 2016 20:13 Pandemona wrote:On January 29 2016 20:11 Musicus wrote:On January 29 2016 20:10 Pandemona wrote:News'd it I'm a bit slow on stuff these days, having to do like 4 peoples job because they all died. Like anyone remember Lorning? he left me so i have to do all LRs and make them all. On top of that i have to sell tyres or i got not monies haha I'm with you on the no monies part Hmmm maybe you should try to get a disciple and teach them the ways of the LR? :0 I for one have no idea how one would properly set one up thats not complete dogshit http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/339146-sc2-lr-resources?page=93All the LRs are pre made, it just becomes a copy paste exercise for whoever wants to do it for said day. Hit the quote button, copy it all, create new thread in tournament section. Copy out the red text and use it as thread name (just to help us keep everything the same). Update the op with who wins and the maps. Add polls for recommend games and you are good. Literally just filling in the blank exercise as i can always do the pre made OPs for everyone If you want to try you can try one of the Pro League matches next week if you want as im always around and can help out too. As we split each pro league match into an individual thread Hmm that does sound relatively easy indeed :D I will try it if an opportunity arrises, generally have university tho so probably would only be able to weekends
Yeah no worries, if you ever have time to do one just make the thread. If i have time i make them 24 hours before the first game starts, if not i wait until last 30minutes and post it when i figure no one else is xD
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On January 29 2016 20:20 Noonius wrote:
those 5 pylon cannons right before the victory screen pretty much sums up protoss
also, jjakji got screwed with the patch release
The patch wasn't released yet.
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On January 29 2016 20:21 Nebuchad wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 20:18 Killmouse wrote:
q about game 1, how do terrans beat storm tempest? Jjakji had a pretty good idea of that didn't he? At some point Classic wasn't mining at all and had only his first two nexus left. I'm pretty sure he had the game won if he didn't engage the way he did at the end. At the very least you can just continue not to engage and go kill buildings, there's no way Classic wins a base trade from that point on.
Yeah Temptest/HT is pretty damn slow, so that's the way to go. If Jjakji didn't stand in storms and lose half his army he had a very good chance of winning the first game.
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On January 29 2016 20:22 Tiaraju9 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 20:20 Noonius wrote:
those 5 pylon cannons right before the victory screen pretty much sums up protoss
also, jjakji got screwed with the patch release
The patch wasn't released yet.
That's why he is screwed...
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Charlie Sheens House51452 Posts
So reapers or the funky proxy ghost strat?
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Jjakji forgot how good classic is in defend again drop back in HOTS.
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On January 29 2016 20:20 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 20:19 Topdoller wrote:
Classic attacks into convex and storms his way to victory ..GG jjakji lost a big part of his army doing nothing.
i am feeling a little salty today. I am a bit of a Jjakji fanboy
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On January 29 2016 20:21 Arvendilin wrote:
How would you do the stars for the polls?
Copy/Paste them from another poll
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On January 29 2016 20:20 Noonius wrote:
those 5 pylon cannons right before the victory screen pretty much sums up protoss
also, jjakji got screwed with the patch release
Well, the 1st game he lost to standing in the storms.
The 2nd game he lost because he did an awful drop just before the end and lost a big part of the army doing nothing.
Adepts are crazy strong vs. T, but jjakji lost because he made big mistakes, not because adepts.
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On January 29 2016 20:22 Mangooza wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 20:22 Tiaraju9 wrote:On January 29 2016 20:20 Noonius wrote:
those 5 pylon cannons right before the victory screen pretty much sums up protoss
also, jjakji got screwed with the patch release
The patch wasn't released yet. That's why he is screwed...
Like he would have a chance anyway
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On January 29 2016 20:21 Golgotha wrote:
it's pretty fucked up when terran has to bunker his 1st and 2nd mineral line as well as 2 bunkers at the front to not get fucked by adept
It's not like Terran is the only race to build protection. Protoss is forced to build pylons everywhere. And obviously you would rather have all your pylons at the front attacking, since it's by far the best unit Protoss can make.
If this patch goes through Protoss players probably won't build pylons anymore at all, so sad, so much strategy lost.
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On January 29 2016 20:21 Arvendilin wrote:
How would you do the stars for the polls?
I just copied someone elses poll and change the names when I did one. Easier
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On January 29 2016 20:23 Longduzboub wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 20:22 Mangooza wrote:On January 29 2016 20:22 Tiaraju9 wrote:On January 29 2016 20:20 Noonius wrote:
those 5 pylon cannons right before the victory screen pretty much sums up protoss
also, jjakji got screwed with the patch release
The patch wasn't released yet. That's why he is screwed... Like he would have a chance anyway
seriously? PO nerf and adept nerf would have given jjaki a much better chance.
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On January 29 2016 20:22 Topdoller wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 20:20 deacon.frost wrote:On January 29 2016 20:19 Topdoller wrote:
Classic attacks into convex and storms his way to victory ..GG jjakji lost a big part of his army doing nothing. i am feeling a little salty today. I am a bit of a Jjakji fanboy
I know, I like jjakji too. But I am still more a fan of Classic than jjakji. Classic is from time to time channeling his inner sOs and he's playing really well
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well I've tuned in at the wrong time. Jjakji )):
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Silly Jjakji. Don't you know you have to just defend til late game?
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Cute play that but it seems to have "hit" a bit too late and Classic has repelled it easily enough.
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I can't believe I'm saying that the nexus cannon was much better than pylons.... sigh
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lol k gg, lets move on now.
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On January 29 2016 20:24 Big J wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 20:21 Golgotha wrote:
it's pretty fucked up when terran has to bunker his 1st and 2nd mineral line as well as 2 bunkers at the front to not get fucked by adept It's not like Terran is the only race to build protection. Protoss is forced to build pylons everywhere. And obviously you would rather have all your pylons at the front attacking, since it's by far the best unit Protoss can make. If this patch goes through Protoss players probably won't build pylons anymore at all, so sad, so much strategy lost.
Almost fell of my chair reading this
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On January 29 2016 20:27 Pandemona wrote:
Cute play that but it seems to have "hit" a bit too late and Classic has repelled it easily enough.
I think it was an anti build to the Adept four-gate Prism build which goes Twilight->Adept attack speed > Robo
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The question is, what will Classic say in the interview?
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this is why tastosis are the best casters. they will never overhyp these situations. some other casters would still scream
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On January 29 2016 20:27 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 20:27 Pandemona wrote:
Cute play that but it seems to have "hit" a bit too late and Classic has repelled it easily enough. I think it was an anti build to the Adept four-gate Prism build which goes Twilight->Adept attack speed > Robo
Ah yeah then it would have hit without the units there.
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On January 29 2016 20:24 Big J wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 20:21 Golgotha wrote:
it's pretty fucked up when terran has to bunker his 1st and 2nd mineral line as well as 2 bunkers at the front to not get fucked by adept It's not like Terran is the only race to build protection. Protoss is forced to build pylons everywhere. And obviously you would rather have all your pylons at the front attacking, since it's by far the best unit Protoss can make. If this patch goes through Protoss players probably won't build pylons anymore at all, so sad, so much strategy lost.
oh please, boo hoo toss has to build pylons that increase supply cap for defense. the cost of the bunker and marines inside that bunker is helluva lot more than building pylons, spores, or cannons.
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On January 29 2016 20:27 WrathSCII wrote:
The question is, what will Classic say in the interview?
"thank you david kim for the pylon overcharge"
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Charlie Sheens House51452 Posts
Poll: Recommend Classic vs jjakji Game 3Meh Game (10) 63% Bad Game (3) 19% Good Game (2) 13% Excellent Game (1) 6% 16 total votes Your vote: Recommend Classic vs jjakji Game 3 (Vote): Excellent Game
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Poll: Recommend Classic vs jjakji Game 4Good Game (4) 50% Meh Game (3) 38% Bad Game (1) 13% Excellent Game (0) 0% 8 total votes Your vote: Recommend Classic vs jjakji Game 4 (Vote): Excellent Game
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Poll: Recommend Classic vs jjakji Game 5Meh Game (3) 33% Good Game (3) 33% Excellent Game (2) 22% Bad Game (1) 11% 9 total votes Your vote: Recommend Classic vs jjakji Game 5 (Vote): Excellent Game
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Sad that they cannot advance both Korea is so stacked
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On January 29 2016 20:27 WrathSCII wrote:
The question is, what will Classic say in the interview?
NERF ME PLS
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That was a depressing ending after such a good game 1
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On January 29 2016 20:28 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 20:27 Heartland wrote:On January 29 2016 20:27 Pandemona wrote:
Cute play that but it seems to have "hit" a bit too late and Classic has repelled it easily enough. I think it was an anti build to the Adept four-gate Prism build which goes Twilight->Adept attack speed > Robo Ah yeah then it would have hit without the units there.
Most importantly, without an Obs or any other detection
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On January 29 2016 20:28 Golgotha wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 20:24 Big J wrote:On January 29 2016 20:21 Golgotha wrote:
it's pretty fucked up when terran has to bunker his 1st and 2nd mineral line as well as 2 bunkers at the front to not get fucked by adept It's not like Terran is the only race to build protection. Protoss is forced to build pylons everywhere. And obviously you would rather have all your pylons at the front attacking, since it's by far the best unit Protoss can make. If this patch goes through Protoss players probably won't build pylons anymore at all, so sad, so much strategy lost. oh please, boo hoo toss has to build pylons that increase supply cap for defense. the cost of the bunker and marines inside that bunker is helluva lot more than building pylons, spores, or cannons.
I think you missed the point of his post
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On January 29 2016 20:28 Golgotha wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 20:24 Big J wrote:On January 29 2016 20:21 Golgotha wrote:
it's pretty fucked up when terran has to bunker his 1st and 2nd mineral line as well as 2 bunkers at the front to not get fucked by adept It's not like Terran is the only race to build protection. Protoss is forced to build pylons everywhere. And obviously you would rather have all your pylons at the front attacking, since it's by far the best unit Protoss can make. If this patch goes through Protoss players probably won't build pylons anymore at all, so sad, so much strategy lost. oh please, boo hoo toss has to build pylons that increase supply cap for defense. the cost of the bunker and marines inside that bunker is helluva lot more than building pylons, spores, or cannons.
You forgot to turn on your sarcasm detector this morning.
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On January 29 2016 20:28 Golgotha wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 20:24 Big J wrote:On January 29 2016 20:21 Golgotha wrote:
it's pretty fucked up when terran has to bunker his 1st and 2nd mineral line as well as 2 bunkers at the front to not get fucked by adept It's not like Terran is the only race to build protection. Protoss is forced to build pylons everywhere. And obviously you would rather have all your pylons at the front attacking, since it's by far the best unit Protoss can make. If this patch goes through Protoss players probably won't build pylons anymore at all, so sad, so much strategy lost. oh please, boo hoo toss has to build pylons that increase supply cap for defense. the cost of the bunker and marines inside that bunker is helluva lot more than building pylons, spores, or cannons.
whoooosh
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On January 29 2016 20:22 Tiaraju9 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 20:20 Noonius wrote:
those 5 pylon cannons right before the victory screen pretty much sums up protoss
also, jjakji got screwed with the patch release
The patch wasn't released yet.
that's what I meant
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To be quite fair, Classic is true Code S caliber.
jjakji will get there, showed some really nice play to be quite frank.
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On January 29 2016 20:28 graNite wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 20:27 WrathSCII wrote:
The question is, what will Classic say in the interview? "thank you david kim for the pylon overcharge"
More likely, thank you for delaying the patch one day. I'm in Code S now, thanks man!
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Sojung is so cheeky
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On January 29 2016 20:29 Phredxor wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 20:28 Golgotha wrote:On January 29 2016 20:24 Big J wrote:On January 29 2016 20:21 Golgotha wrote:
it's pretty fucked up when terran has to bunker his 1st and 2nd mineral line as well as 2 bunkers at the front to not get fucked by adept It's not like Terran is the only race to build protection. Protoss is forced to build pylons everywhere. And obviously you would rather have all your pylons at the front attacking, since it's by far the best unit Protoss can make. If this patch goes through Protoss players probably won't build pylons anymore at all, so sad, so much strategy lost. oh please, boo hoo toss has to build pylons that increase supply cap for defense. the cost of the bunker and marines inside that bunker is helluva lot more than building pylons, spores, or cannons. I think you missed the point of his post
damnit please use /s >_<
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On January 29 2016 20:29 Incognoto wrote:
To be quite fair, Classic is true Code S caliber.
jjakji will get there, showed some really nice play to be quite frank.
Yup, not surprising at all. Classic hasn't dropped off in LotV from what we've seen so far.
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On January 29 2016 20:28 Golgotha wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 20:24 Big J wrote:On January 29 2016 20:21 Golgotha wrote:
it's pretty fucked up when terran has to bunker his 1st and 2nd mineral line as well as 2 bunkers at the front to not get fucked by adept It's not like Terran is the only race to build protection. Protoss is forced to build pylons everywhere. And obviously you would rather have all your pylons at the front attacking, since it's by far the best unit Protoss can make. If this patch goes through Protoss players probably won't build pylons anymore at all, so sad, so much strategy lost. oh please, boo hoo toss has to build pylons that increase supply cap for defense. the cost of the bunker and marines inside that bunker is helluva lot more than building pylons, spores, or cannons.
Pylons don't cost supply, so you don't really need more supply as Protoss anyways. It's not really the purpose of a pylon and mainly there for nostalgia reasons.
Edit: I'm sorry.
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On January 29 2016 20:30 Golgotha wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 20:29 Phredxor wrote:On January 29 2016 20:28 Golgotha wrote:On January 29 2016 20:24 Big J wrote:On January 29 2016 20:21 Golgotha wrote:
it's pretty fucked up when terran has to bunker his 1st and 2nd mineral line as well as 2 bunkers at the front to not get fucked by adept It's not like Terran is the only race to build protection. Protoss is forced to build pylons everywhere. And obviously you would rather have all your pylons at the front attacking, since it's by far the best unit Protoss can make. If this patch goes through Protoss players probably won't build pylons anymore at all, so sad, so much strategy lost. oh please, boo hoo toss has to build pylons that increase supply cap for defense. the cost of the bunker and marines inside that bunker is helluva lot more than building pylons, spores, or cannons. I think you missed the point of his post damnit please use /s >_<
Haha, it happens to the best of us.
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Have we ever heard any other korean pro oppenly accepting a unit of his race is OP? Other than protoss players talking about adepts i mean.
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On January 29 2016 20:28 Golgotha wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 20:24 Big J wrote:On January 29 2016 20:21 Golgotha wrote:
it's pretty fucked up when terran has to bunker his 1st and 2nd mineral line as well as 2 bunkers at the front to not get fucked by adept It's not like Terran is the only race to build protection. Protoss is forced to build pylons everywhere. And obviously you would rather have all your pylons at the front attacking, since it's by far the best unit Protoss can make. If this patch goes through Protoss players probably won't build pylons anymore at all, so sad, so much strategy lost. oh please, boo hoo toss has to build pylons that increase supply cap for defense. the cost of the bunker and marines inside that bunker is helluva lot more than building pylons, spores, or cannons.
Clearly you've never seen a Protoss at 50/100 supply in order to deal with Liberator harass because they don't have a Stargate, and even then the Liberators can still find a spot on some maps.
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Classic already starting to whine about protoss nerfs
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On January 29 2016 20:31 Salteador Neo wrote:
Have we ever heard any other korean pro oppenly accepting a unit of his race is OP? Other than protoss players talking about adepts i mean.
Uh...Not really
Ummmmm kudos to Protoss players
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On January 29 2016 20:32 Noonius wrote:
Classic already starting to whine about protoss nerfs
Should have thrown a couple games to make it look worse for Protoss. Silly Classic.
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Charlie Sheens House51452 Posts
2/2 liquibet as everyone is, however i left fielded the next one with Super beating Ragnarok! :D
Being 5 points off the lead at the moment, i need to do something to chase down the pack!
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"thank god, I was worried he wouldn't try to show us better games, but he is!" - Artosis
I choked on my drink when he said that, lmao :D
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Sojung seems a little star-struck with Tastosis, less comfortable than with team salmon
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On January 29 2016 20:32 Noonius wrote:
Classic already starting to whine about protoss nerfs
Though he's right, PvZ isn't that good as Blizzard is trying to ignore it.
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On January 29 2016 20:32 Noonius wrote:
Classic already starting to whine about protoss nerfs
But he already did fine in mid and late game again terran ....
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On January 29 2016 20:33 Pandemona wrote:
2/2 liquibet as everyone is, however i left fielded the next one with Super beating Ragnarok! :D
I also picked Super!
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On January 29 2016 20:31 Salteador Neo wrote:
Have we eve
r heard any other korean pro oppenly accepting a unit of his race is OP? Other than protoss players talking about adepts i mean.
Terrans and Warhounds
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On January 29 2016 20:34 Lexender wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 20:31 Salteador Neo wrote:
Have we eve
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Koreans never commented on them because they never played HotS beta that early (barely anyone did TBH).
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On January 29 2016 20:34 seemsgood wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 20:32 Noonius wrote:
Classic already starting to whine about protoss nerfs But he already did fine in mid and late game again terran ....
- He was talking about PvZ.
- This was prepatch.
- He did fine against a worse player than him.
- Even against a worse player than him, he came pretty close to losing the first game.
- You're using one game to conclude something.
- Given that it's acceptable to use one game to conclude something, I can now conclude that adept warp prism is fine because jjakji dealt with it very well there.
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On January 29 2016 20:34 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 20:33 Pandemona wrote:
2/2 liquibet as everyone is, however i left fielded the next one with Super beating Ragnarok! :D I also picked Super!
Nice nice, :D adept power etcetc lolol
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On January 29 2016 20:37 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 20:34 Musicus wrote:On January 29 2016 20:33 Pandemona wrote:
2/2 liquibet as everyone is, however i left fielded the next one with Super beating Ragnarok! :D I also picked Super! Nice nice, :D adept power etcetc lolol
Just checked, I did too
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does RagnaroK even know what his name means?
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On January 29 2016 20:31 Salteador Neo wrote:
Have we ever heard any other korean pro oppenly accepting a unit of his race is OP? Other than protoss players talking about adepts i mean.
MC and his imba penix
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On January 29 2016 20:38 Inflicted wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 20:31 Salteador Neo wrote:
Have we ever heard any other korean pro oppenly accepting a unit of his race is OP? Other than protoss players talking about adepts i mean. MC and his imba penix
MC should be ignored because he repeatedly said MC is imba. Nerf MC!
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On January 29 2016 20:38 Noonius wrote:
does RagnaroK even know what his name means?
wasn't ragnarok online a korean game?
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is the patch live for these matches?
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On January 29 2016 20:38 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 20:37 Pandemona wrote:On January 29 2016 20:34 Musicus wrote:On January 29 2016 20:33 Pandemona wrote:
2/2 liquibet as everyone is, however i left fielded the next one with Super beating Ragnarok! :D I also picked Super! Nice nice, :D adept power etcetc lolol Just checked, I did too
real men, who are 20 points off the lead, pick RagnaroK because they got nothing to lose
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On January 29 2016 20:39 brickrd wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 20:38 Noonius wrote:
does RagnaroK even know what his name means?
wasn't ragnarok online a korean game?
It was(is) a great MMORPG, sweet memories
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On January 29 2016 20:41 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 20:39 brickrd wrote:On January 29 2016 20:38 Noonius wrote:
does RagnaroK even know what his name means?
wasn't ragnarok online a korean game? It was(is) a great MMORPG, sweet memories
Played it when I was 15, and then for like 8 years with just a couple 1-2 year breaks thrown in there
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Super - Ragnarok. Well let's see how PvZ looks in teir 3.
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On January 29 2016 20:45 Mozdk wrote:
Super - Ragnarok. Well let's see how PvZ looks in teir 3.
Ragnarok is better than the current GSL champion. A different match up of course, but it must count for something!
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On January 29 2016 20:46 deacon.frost wrote:
Why not ban this map? oO
Because it's so creative
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aaaaaaaaaaaaay macarena :D
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On January 29 2016 20:46 deacon.frost wrote:
Why not ban this map? oO
I can give you 3.
Ulrena, Central Protocol, Lerilak Crest.
(Maybe central is not in gsl pool)
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On January 29 2016 20:39 brickrd wrote:
is the patch live for these matches?
Nope, it will be live tonight.
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On January 29 2016 20:47 Penev wrote:Because it's so creative
TLO-esque!
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On January 29 2016 20:47 Penev wrote:Because it's so creative
Don't Penev. I'm still crying after seeing that mapmaker thing.
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On January 29 2016 20:34 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 20:33 Pandemona wrote:
2/2 liquibet as everyone is, however i left fielded the next one with Super beating Ragnarok! :D I also picked Super!
Picked Ragnarok lets see who gets the 3/3 instead 2/3
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On January 29 2016 20:48 Mozdk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 20:47 Penev wrote:On January 29 2016 20:46 deacon.frost wrote:
Why not ban this map? oO Because it's so creative Don't Penev. I'm still crying after seeing that mapmaker thing.
Joy tears?
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On January 29 2016 20:47 Mozdk wrote:I can give you 3. Ulrena, Central Protocol, Lerilak Crest. (Maybe central is not in gsl pool)
Ulrena and Central aren't in the pool iirc
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Artosis and Tasteless seem much happier these days, or is it only me?
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On January 29 2016 20:48 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 20:48 Mozdk wrote:On January 29 2016 20:47 Penev wrote:On January 29 2016 20:46 deacon.frost wrote:
Why not ban this map? oO Because it's so creative Don't Penev. I'm still crying after seeing that mapmaker thing. Joy tears?
No the other kind
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Charlie Sheens House51452 Posts
We get to the mid game in PvZ!!!!
Will Super be able to do some damage or will the Lurkers be able to arrive on the field and cause chaos!
Ok i didn't see the supplies LOL
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Welcome to Prion Terraces in PvZ.
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Big J was right! Look at this strategical pylon placement
P.S: Didn't help at all though lol
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Charlie Sheens House51452 Posts
Poll: Recommend Ragnarok vs Super Game 1Meh Game (4) 57% Good Game (2) 29% Bad Game (1) 14% Excellent Game (0) 0% 7 total votes Your vote: Recommend Ragnarok vs Super Game 1 (Vote): Excellent Game
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Wow Overcharge so imba!!!!!!! :p
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Ragnarok too good. Gonna win GSL/SSL. Heard it here first.
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Yeah Blizzard! Make a map where zerg can make an attack that is guarenteed to set protoss behind, even when it's an all in by zerg. Yeah!!! Smart design!
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Super didn't build enough pylons, such a bad Protoss
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Ravaged. That didn't look particularly close.
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On January 29 2016 20:51 Mozdk wrote:
Yeah Blizzard! Make a map where zerg can make an attack that is guarenteed to set protoss behind, even when it's an all in by zerg. Yeah!!! SmartCreative design!
There, I fixed it
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Tastosis is so funny. Especially Tasteless.
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If I was a pro player and I had to play PvZ on that map I think I might just go scout the gold bases, see them, and type gg =)
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On January 29 2016 20:53 Nebuchad wrote:
If I was a pro player and I had to play PvZ on that map I think I might just go scout the gold bases, see them, and type gg =)
Think the last time i saw a PvZ or a few series with this map vs Zerg the idea is you take the gold yourself as well as the first expansion.
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On January 29 2016 20:54 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 20:53 Nebuchad wrote:
If I was a pro player and I had to play PvZ on that map I think I might just go scout the gold bases, see them, and type gg =) Think the last time i saw a PvZ or a few series with this map vs Zerg the idea is you take the gold yourself as well as the first expansion.
doesn't ragnaroks opener kill a nexus at the gold tho? no way he can pull probes all the way down to defend it.
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Charlie Sheens House51452 Posts
On January 29 2016 20:55 brickrd wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 20:54 Pandemona wrote:On January 29 2016 20:53 Nebuchad wrote:
If I was a pro player and I had to play PvZ on that map I think I might just go scout the gold bases, see them, and type gg =) Think the last time i saw a PvZ or a few series with this map vs Zerg the idea is you take the gold yourself as well as the first expansion. doesn't ragnaroks opener kill a nexus at the gold tho? no way he can pull probes all the way down to defend it.
Yeah that is true, don't think MSC is out quick enough? To overcharge?
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On January 29 2016 20:51 Mozdk wrote:
Yeah Blizzard! Make a map where zerg can make an attack that is guarenteed to set protoss behind, even when it's an all in by zerg. Yeah!!! Smart design!
Zerg dominating? Zerg favoured maps?
Better nerf protoss x)
Yay, made it in time to see some games yay :D
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So much queen :Q
goodbye Super
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Charlie Sheens House51452 Posts
Wow ok that was shut down!
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haha WHAT?!
Symbol is shedding a tear somewhere
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Poll: Recommend Ragnarok vs Super Game 2Meh Game (3) 30% Good Game (3) 30% Excellent Game (2) 20% Bad Game (2) 20% 10 total votes Your vote: Recommend Ragnarok vs Super Game 2 (Vote): Excellent Game
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that was a great hold, didn't think he would stop that, especially skytoss style
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On January 29 2016 20:56 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 20:55 brickrd wrote:On January 29 2016 20:54 Pandemona wrote:On January 29 2016 20:53 Nebuchad wrote:
If I was a pro player and I had to play PvZ on that map I think I might just go scout the gold bases, see them, and type gg =) Think the last time i saw a PvZ or a few series with this map vs Zerg the idea is you take the gold yourself as well as the first expansion. doesn't ragnaroks opener kill a nexus at the gold tho? no way he can pull probes all the way down to defend it. Yeah that is true, don't think MSC is out quick enough? To overcharge?
i wonder if that's why ragnarok does it. he gets his own gold and gets to deny a toss gold + set the pace of the game on a favorable map
i think super could have had better eyes on the middle lane (a zealot spotter or something), but still would have been really hard. not sure i fully understood the sentry army
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Did he misclick to lose that first nydus or something? There's no way he was out of energy so soon
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Lol Tasteless laughing after the third nydus worm was placed :D
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Yeah i thought that was a great hold. Lifting a few queens up and the Void Ray doing lots of work. Then he had to GG when it didn't work due to not having any queens left back at home thus he would have been lava starved forever.
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LOL marco mistakes. fucking artosis.
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Tasteless unimpressed with that one
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Vocal misspells everywhere o/
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On January 29 2016 20:59 Pandemona wrote:Poll: Recommend Ragnarok vs Super Game 2Meh Game (3) 30% Good Game (3) 30% Excellent Game (2) 20% Bad Game (2) 20% 10 total votes Your vote: Recommend Ragnarok vs Super Game 2 (Vote): Excellent Game
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lol 25% across the board. Incredible poll.
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On January 29 2016 21:01 Vindicare605 wrote:
LOL marco mistakes. fucking artosis.
Makro Mistakes.
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wtf the indecision is real...
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On January 29 2016 21:02 Kaizor wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 21:01 Vindicare605 wrote:
LOL marco mistakes. fucking artosis. Makro Mistakes.
nyah it was Marco. The guy causing us to lose games, fuck that guy. ]:-C
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Czech Republic12129 Posts
Well, Artosis may have a dictionary, but he cannot spell so he won't find anything. #MarcoGames
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Charlie Sheens House51452 Posts
Poor creep spread from Ragnarok costing him here
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Whenever I see destructable rocks falling over, I remember that Symbol game (GSL I think) in early to mid HotS when he lost like half his roach army to destructable rocks... good times :D
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Poll: Recommend Ragnarok vs Super Game 3Good Game (5) 63% Meh Game (3) 38% Excellent Game (0) 0% Bad Game (0) 0% 8 total votes Your vote: Recommend Ragnarok vs Super Game 3 (Vote): Excellent Game
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On January 29 2016 21:02 Kaizor wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 21:01 Vindicare605 wrote:
LOL marco mistakes. fucking artosis. Makro Mistakes.
what did i do ?
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omg, am I actually going to 3/3 today?
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Doesn't matter how many lurkers and spores zerg has
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Ragnarok plz, release all that potential from late 2013
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turns out forcefields are preety goood
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WOW super! Nice perfect. Loses warp prism and gets out! Nice well done
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Town Portal what a spell, make shit attack , get crushed then disappear intact to fight another day
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ALLEYCAT BLUES49781 Posts
so life vs bunny not today?
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Ladies and gentlemen, Code A player
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On January 29 2016 21:25 BLinD-RawR wrote:
so life vs bunny not today?
Next week.
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Austria24417 Posts
I've read through this LR and others recently, so here's a thought for you.
Stop the stupid amounts of balance whine or I'll start actioning people. Discussing why something is too strong in a sort of reasonable manner - sure. Adepts are probably too strong. "LOOOL PROTOSS/ZERG/TERRAN" - nope. You should know this by now.
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On January 29 2016 21:26 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I've read through this LR and others recently, so here's a thought for you.
Stop the stupid amounts of balance whine or I'll start actioning people. Discussing why something is too strong in a sort of reasonable manner - sure. Adepts are probably too strong. "LOOOL PROTOSS/ZERG/TERRAN" - nope. You should know this by now.
Or simply say "User was Warnned for this post" to Pandemona
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Charlie Sheens House51452 Posts
Ok how did Super let this happen xD
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Well 2/3 is fine I guess :/
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DT to the win. Still think that Super won´t go far
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Poll: Recommend Ragnarok vs Super Game 4Good Game (4) 50% Meh Game (3) 38% Bad Game (1) 13% Excellent Game (0) 0% 8 total votes Your vote: Recommend Ragnarok vs Super Game 4 (Vote): Excellent Game
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Poll: Recommend Ragnarok vs Super Game 5Good Game (4) 50% Meh Game (2) 25% Bad Game (2) 25% Excellent Game (0) 0% 8 total votes Your vote: Recommend Ragnarok vs Super Game 5 (Vote): Excellent Game
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0/4 liquidbet yesterday
3/3 liquidbet today.
Been this way way too many times recently. The start of new expansion really makes the scene extremely volatile.
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On January 29 2016 21:26 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I've read through this LR and others recently, so here's a thought for you.
Stop the stupid amounts of balance whine or I'll start actioning people. Discussing why something is too strong in a sort of reasonable manner - sure. Adepts are probably too strong. "LOOOL PROTOSS/ZERG/TERRAN" - nope. You should know this by now.
I really don't think this LR was all that bad?
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I voted for solar, jjakji, ragnarok. I suck at predicting these games lol :D
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On January 29 2016 21:30 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 21:26 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I've read through this LR and others recently, so here's a thought for you.
Stop the stupid amounts of balance whine or I'll start actioning people. Discussing why something is too strong in a sort of reasonable manner - sure. Adepts are probably too strong. "LOOOL PROTOSS/ZERG/TERRAN" - nope. You should know this by now. I really don't think this LR was all that bad?
It wasn't, I don't know what's up with DLO lately.. :/
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On January 29 2016 21:32 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 21:30 The_Red_Viper wrote:On January 29 2016 21:26 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I've read through this LR and others recently, so here's a thought for you.
Stop the stupid amounts of balance whine or I'll start actioning people. Discussing why something is too strong in a sort of reasonable manner - sure. Adepts are probably too strong. "LOOOL PROTOSS/ZERG/TERRAN" - nope. You should know this by now. I really don't think this LR was all that bad? It wasn't, I don't know what's up with DLO lately.. :/
Maybe it's because PvP is not that nice nowadays
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On January 29 2016 21:32 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 21:30 The_Red_Viper wrote:On January 29 2016 21:26 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I've read through this LR and others recently, so here's a thought for you.
Stop the stupid amounts of balance whine or I'll start actioning people. Discussing why something is too strong in a sort of reasonable manner - sure. Adepts are probably too strong. "LOOOL PROTOSS/ZERG/TERRAN" - nope. You should know this by now. I really don't think this LR was all that bad? It wasn't, I don't know what's up with DLO lately.. :/
Triggered by Protoss winning both bo5s
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Austria24417 Posts
Protoss does seem too strong, but the whine right now is essentially the same as it was during the blink era - remember how that ended? We had to stop you people from shitposting because it actually drove staff away.
I'd rather not have that happen again. Last few LRs have been terrible in that regard. Just a reminder that there are still rules.
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I thought the balance whine was a bad thing in WoL and early HotS(especially after removal of warhound) but now it feels like a fun part the game. There are a lot of creative posts(some people would call them shitposts lol) on every platform whenever a protoss a moves over someone or a terran liberates a murder of mutas.
P.S: It could be frustrating for the staff but from what i've seen in the last few years, LR threads are the least moderated part of TL. They also have the least quality posts in the whole forum but i didn't think it was a big deal.
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On January 29 2016 21:44 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Protoss does seem too strong, but the whine right now is essentially the same as it was during the blink era - remember how that ended? We had to stop you people from shitposting because it actually drove staff away.
I'd rather not have that happen again. Last few LRs have been terrible in that regard. Just a reminder that there are still rules.
Is pretty hard to avoid it, with so many threads started by the same people about balance and their ideas on how everyone else should play the game. "Thoses message to the community" posts just perpetuate it all and it rubs off on the rest of the community. The SC2 General section has been flooded with that crap for months now, to the point there is little else on other topics imho.
We all have our views on balance and how the game should be played, but recently the negativity is spreading and starting to affect a lot of people.
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On January 29 2016 21:44 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Protoss does seem too strong, but the whine right now is essentially the same as it was during the blink era - remember how that ended? We had to stop you people from shitposting because it actually drove staff away.
I'd rather not have that happen again. Last few LRs have been terrible in that regard. Just a reminder that there are still rules.
I just reread some of the thread and I don't really see much, certainly not as much as in the blink era and the little there is is more for humor purposes than true whining imo.
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The only whining I can remember was Big J's sarcastic comment about pylons which was just amusing
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Enough of Adepts and Toss imba! What Blizzard really needs to patch is the WCS system
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On January 29 2016 21:56 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 21:44 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Protoss does seem too strong, but the whine right now is essentially the same as it was during the blink era - remember how that ended? We had to stop you people from shitposting because it actually drove staff away.
I'd rather not have that happen again. Last few LRs have been terrible in that regard. Just a reminder that there are still rules. I just reread some of the thread and I don't really see much, certainly not as much as in the blink era and the little there is is more for humor purposes than true whining imo.
Yeah i agree. I don't think this is comparable at all. LR threads still should be a place where you can have a little fun and a little discussion. This "warning" seems pointless to me.
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On January 29 2016 21:56 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 21:44 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Protoss does seem too strong, but the whine right now is essentially the same as it was during the blink era - remember how that ended? We had to stop you people from shitposting because it actually drove staff away.
I'd rather not have that happen again. Last few LRs have been terrible in that regard. Just a reminder that there are still rules. I just reread some of the thread and I don't really see much, certainly not as much as in the blink era and the little there is is more for humor purposes than true whining imo.
Just take it as a reminder and do what you already do, then . I don't think you were ever a shitposter.
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On January 29 2016 22:00 Nebuchad wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 21:56 Penev wrote:On January 29 2016 21:44 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Protoss does seem too strong, but the whine right now is essentially the same as it was during the blink era - remember how that ended? We had to stop you people from shitposting because it actually drove staff away.
I'd rather not have that happen again. Last few LRs have been terrible in that regard. Just a reminder that there are still rules. I just reread some of the thread and I don't really see much, certainly not as much as in the blink era and the little there is is more for humor purposes than true whining imo. Just take it as a reminder and do what you already do, then . I don't think you were ever a shitposter.
There's been a lot of anti Protoss whining lately but not really in this thread. I'm just wondering why DLO thinks there was. Maybe he just didn't get the jokes or something..
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So in other news, any games absolutely worth watching today?
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On January 29 2016 22:25 Elentos wrote:
So in other news, any games absolutely worth watching today?
Personally i wouldn't call any game today a must watch. But i am also kinda picky, so who knows.
The ZvZ was the most fun though imo (as a set) first game of classic vs jjakji was pretty decent too. (probably the single best game today)
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Yeah Classic vs Jjakji G1 was probably my fav of the day, but nothing too spectacular.
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honestly warnings for balance whining should be reserved for really toxic and repeated crap, or people who have like 20 posts and they're all "terran op thanks david" etc. if someone is clearly heated, insulting people, complaining over 50 pages, or if they have a history, sure, that's bad
cracking down on the slightest joke about design or gimmicky strategies working runs a risk of just making chat threads dry and uncomfortable. pro players and casters make balance jokes all the time
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On January 29 2016 22:29 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2016 22:25 Elentos wrote:
So in other news, any games absolutely worth watching today? Personally i wouldn't call any game today a must watch. But i am also kinda picky, so who knows. The ZvZ was the most fun though imo (as a set) first game of classic vs jjakji was pretty decent too. (probably the single best game today)
On January 29 2016 22:30 Phredxor wrote:
Yeah Classic vs Jjakji G1 was probably my fav of the day, but nothing too spectacular.
Thanks, might check it out. Wasn't too enthusiastic about this day of GSL to begin with though
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So I took a look at jjakji vs Classic game 1... WTF jjakji you had that -.-
I guess not every Terran can be TY.
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Canada8157 Posts
3/3 boys the liquibetking is back baby
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On January 29 2016 23:38 Jer99 wrote:
3/3 boys the liquibetking is back baby
Didn't you go like 0/30 for the first few weeks though? Bit late, isn't it? :O
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Canada8157 Posts
On January 29 2016 23:39 Elentos wrote:Didn't you go like 0/30 for the first few weeks though? Bit late, isn't it? :O
Started from the bottom
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Side note - Solar is becoming literally Zerg TaeJa. Never loses, never stops complaining about balance.
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