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Arvendilin
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany1878 Posts
January 23 2016 21:05 GMT
#1601
On January 24 2016 06:04 Phredxor wrote:
No wondet Acer dropped Nerchio. Don't need him with Bly owning Koreans left and right.

He's now on the devil team with Firecake tho, that will make his BM game only stronger, and thats the only thing that matters in foreigner land afterall :D
My heroes: Jangbi, Bisu, Stork and BeSt for BW, Rain, Zest and Stats for SC2! Need a better Signature tbh...
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
January 23 2016 21:05 GMT
#1602
Kill the natural come on!
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
January 23 2016 21:06 GMT
#1603
On January 24 2016 06:04 Phredxor wrote:
No wondet Acer dropped Nerchio. Don't need him with Bly owning Koreans left and right.

It's only a matter of time till they drop Scarlett too. They literally only need Bly
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
ClysmiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2192 Posts
January 23 2016 21:06 GMT
#1604
He really needed that 2nd queen on the ramp. =/
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
January 23 2016 21:06 GMT
#1605
Zerg needs pylons
I Protoss winner, could it be?
kaykoose
Profile Joined February 2014
United States2302 Posts
January 23 2016 21:06 GMT
#1606
Does anyone know why Polt didn't attend?
Leviance
Profile Joined November 2009
Germany4079 Posts
January 23 2016 21:06 GMT
#1607
oh god I love Bly
"Blizzard is never gonna nerf Terran because of those American and European fuck" - Korean Netizen
DonDomingo
Profile Joined October 2015
504 Posts
January 23 2016 21:06 GMT
#1608
What were Blizzard thinking when they decided to let people start with 12 workers WITHOUT compensating the 1st overlord scouting. That made ZvZ so infinitely more cancerous for no reason.
Arvendilin
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany1878 Posts
January 23 2016 21:07 GMT
#1609
On January 24 2016 06:06 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2016 06:04 Phredxor wrote:
No wondet Acer dropped Nerchio. Don't need him with Bly owning Koreans left and right.

It's only a matter of time till they drop Scarlett too. They literally only need Bly

Uhh... I think you mean Shura!
My heroes: Jangbi, Bisu, Stork and BeSt for BW, Rain, Zest and Stats for SC2! Need a better Signature tbh...
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
January 23 2016 21:07 GMT
#1610
On January 24 2016 06:03 Arvendilin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2016 05:58 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On January 24 2016 05:55 Arvendilin wrote:
On January 24 2016 05:53 Pino wrote:
On January 24 2016 05:51 RvB wrote:
On January 24 2016 05:50 Deathstar wrote:
sc2 ZvZ is total shit

Sc BW ZvZ is tota shit as well.


Nothing can be as bad as BW ZvZ

I tought it was kinda funny that that was the MU that people were getting introduced to with the first Tastosis BW cast in ages lol

I don't think it is that bad tbh, not every matchup needs to be about lategame and different unit compositions.
Muta/scourge vs muta/scourge is fun to watch imo (even though it's hard to tell who has more mutas)

sc2 zvz is ok as well, roach vs roach is kinda boring sometimes though

Idk man, the openings have waaay too much impact on just standard play, so not even when you cheese you coinflip, when you play standard you also weirdly coinflip a bit

And it never ever develops into anything, Muta Scourge vs Muta Scourge micro battles can be fun for a bit but it becomes stale after a while...

And the fact that it always stays on low economy doesn't help either, I'm okay with low tech but I think BW is at its best when players can produce more, beeing able to sacrifice for small attacks while keeping them busy with their main army, action going on everywhere out positioning your opponent drawing them out etc. etc.

Its like the antithesis of what I like about RTS lol

I can see where you are coming from, but as i said i don't think every single matchup has to play out the same.
It's kinda interesting that there is this big difference between zvz and other matchups in bw imo.
Also JvZ was pretty stable for coinflipping (but hey it's JD so that doesn't count probably)
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
January 23 2016 21:07 GMT
#1611
wouldnt it have made more sense for bly to take the gold?
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
January 23 2016 21:07 GMT
#1612
On January 24 2016 06:02 joshie0808 wrote:
BLYINFERNO


I think it's just

Blynferno
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17723 Posts
January 23 2016 21:08 GMT
#1613
On January 24 2016 06:06 DonDomingo wrote:
What were Blizzard thinking when they decided to let people start with 12 workers WITHOUT compensating the 1st overlord scouting. That made ZvZ so infinitely more cancerous for no reason.

yea this early game stuff is pretty boring
"Expert" mods4ever.com
Leviance
Profile Joined November 2009
Germany4079 Posts
January 23 2016 21:08 GMT
#1614
Overlord drop much underused in general
"Blizzard is never gonna nerf Terran because of those American and European fuck" - Korean Netizen
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
January 23 2016 21:08 GMT
#1615
Bly on fire, chaos?

He is the devil
I Protoss winner, could it be?
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
January 23 2016 21:08 GMT
#1616
BOOOM
Neosteel Enthusiast
DonDomingo
Profile Joined October 2015
504 Posts
January 23 2016 21:09 GMT
#1617
Violet with the reaction time of a foreigner :DD
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-23 21:09:26
January 23 2016 21:09 GMT
#1618
HAHAHA HOLY CRAP BLY

and now violet hahahah
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17723 Posts
January 23 2016 21:09 GMT
#1619
omg you gotta be kidding me
"Expert" mods4ever.com
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
January 23 2016 21:09 GMT
#1620
OH MY GOD
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
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