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On December 20 2015 08:05 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2015 08:01 sh0ck wrote:On December 20 2015 07:58 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On December 20 2015 07:57 sh0ck wrote:On December 20 2015 07:51 Strela wrote:On December 20 2015 07:49 IceBerrY wrote:On December 20 2015 07:44 sh0ck wrote:
To be fair, I agree with Drogo and NightEnd that doing "player introductions" every game and calling out the spawning positions is kind of annoying and unnecessary. Felt that way for a while. Just introduce them in the first game of every match and then in the subsequent games briefly comment on "So drogo spawns in X corner this game while NightEnd spawns Y" or something Exactly man, after like 3083197863 of SC2 games, it really is boring, but whatever.. From time to time you could announce it, or if it is some really hyped up final, otherwise it´s just a time filler and unecessary. Not everyone is as familair with the game or watches it for the entire weekend. There are plenty of newcomers that drop in for a little while. I'm confused...how is whether or not a viewer is familiar with SC2 relevant? And yeah, like somebody mentioned, it's just a leftover relic from WoL/HoTS when they needed something to fill time during the extremely slow buildup in the early game. It's always been annoying, but now it's annoying and even more unnecessary in LoTV. Player introductions obviously have more value to a newer viewer than an enfranchised one. How so? How do player introductions in every game of a multi-game series help a newer viewer more than a veteran one? The players get introduced in the first game of the series, and their names are up on the big, obvious overlay, not to mention that the casters have to refer to the players by their names. I remember when I was a new viewer myself, I thought it was weird and annoying that they re-introduced and re-hyped the players for every game of series. A good introduction is not just confined to naming who the player is, but also provides background about the player's history or playstyle, and as such wouldn't always be the same. I do agree that just naming a player isn't particularly helpful, though it doesn't take that much time anyways.
Even saying the player/color/spawn can be helpful. I've seen enough multiple-set mirror matchups where the players switched colors multiple times. Disorienting as fuck.
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on a side note: do you guys agree that TvT is the MU that changed the most since LOTV?
the whole pick up tanks thingy feels like there is a new unit in the terran army, changes everything micro wise..
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On December 20 2015 08:05 CheddarToss wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2015 07:57 Ej_ wrote:On December 20 2015 07:57 CheddarToss wrote:On December 20 2015 07:54 NarutO wrote:On December 20 2015 07:51 CheddarToss wrote:
My impression after watching many games at HSC is that LotV is light years away from being balanced. It is entirely possible for lesser known players like Dayshi, Firecake and Elazer to defeat players who are leaps and bounds better than them. Lesser known =/= worse According to your signature, you think that MMA is a truly inspiring player. Do you honestly believe that he is currently worse than a no-name like Firecake? did you see MMA's games? I did Yes I did. He looked very convincing vs Demuslim in TvT, which is a balanced MU. MC also looked like a god vs Mana and then lost to Elazer.
"looked very convincing vs Demuslim"
nuff said
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On December 20 2015 08:07 Makro wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2015 07:57 CheddarToss wrote:On December 20 2015 07:54 NarutO wrote:On December 20 2015 07:51 CheddarToss wrote:
My impression after watching many games at HSC is that LotV is light years away from being balanced. It is entirely possible for lesser known players like Dayshi, Firecake and Elazer to defeat players who are leaps and bounds better than them. Lesser known =/= worse According to your signature, you think that MMA is a truly inspiring player. Do you honestly believe that he is currently worse than a no-name like Firecake? a no name like firegod ? show some respect to the best foreigner on LOTV
u disgust me
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On December 20 2015 08:05 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2015 08:03 vult wrote:On December 20 2015 07:56 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On December 20 2015 07:49 IceBerrY wrote:On December 20 2015 07:44 sh0ck wrote:
To be fair, I agree with Drogo and NightEnd that doing "player introductions" every game and calling out the spawning positions is kind of annoying and unnecessary. Felt that way for a while. Just introduce them in the first game of every match and then in the subsequent games briefly comment on "So drogo spawns in X corner this game while NightEnd spawns Y" or something Exactly man, after like 3083197863 of SC2 games, it really is boring, but whatever.. From time to time you could announce it, or if it is some really hyped up final, otherwise it´s just a time filler and unecessary. idk to me, it feels like the proper way to start a game off. like we know when a tv episode starts because it's the beginning, but they still have the opening. it just feels right I can see it at live events being a thing but it is really awkward when they introduce with no external feedback (crowd, applause, etc.) I find it unnecessary and awkward, and think it really should just be a Game 1 thing, with the players having consistent colors (red, blue, etc.), and then just doing a more streamlined and natural intro at the beginning of subsequent games. I think highlighting maps at the beginning of games is more needed than silly repetitive player intros. There are only so many times i can hear throughout the tournament "IN THE TOP LEFT OUR AMAZING FOREIGNER HOPE FROM FRANCE REPRESENTING MILLENIUM IT IS AHSJLWEGBWLEHAJKWHE!!!!! *epic camera zooms and drags*" i dont know it's a good way to start and it isn't hurting anyone imo, plus there's some pretty funny intros that we've had in the past
also qxc
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On December 20 2015 07:35 royalroadweed wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2015 07:24 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:On December 20 2015 07:22 y0su wrote:On December 20 2015 07:15 Deathstar wrote:On December 20 2015 07:14 Superbanana wrote:Couldn't even kill the rocks  2 shot marauders make killing rocks harder the REAL reason for the nerf!! ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/h2ee52H.jpg) User was warned for this post What was the warning for?
low content post :o
which is BS because I cropped the image in paint for maximum smugness
MMA casting MC will be fun :D
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Poll: Should we keep doing Player intros?who gives a fuck (17) 65% yeah (6) 23% no (3) 12% 26 total votes Your vote: Should we keep doing Player intros? (Vote): yeah
(Vote): no
(Vote): who gives a fuck
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I now even more want MC to lose, so MMA can call him out
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Ok Dayshi, I hope you can up a gear
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i didn't tab back in so i had no idea scarlett and mma were casting ahahah
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On December 20 2015 08:08 Ej_ wrote:
I now even more want MC to lose, so MMA can call him out
"TOO OLD"
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On December 20 2015 08:05 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2015 08:01 sh0ck wrote:On December 20 2015 07:58 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On December 20 2015 07:57 sh0ck wrote:On December 20 2015 07:51 Strela wrote:On December 20 2015 07:49 IceBerrY wrote:On December 20 2015 07:44 sh0ck wrote:
To be fair, I agree with Drogo and NightEnd that doing "player introductions" every game and calling out the spawning positions is kind of annoying and unnecessary. Felt that way for a while. Just introduce them in the first game of every match and then in the subsequent games briefly comment on "So drogo spawns in X corner this game while NightEnd spawns Y" or something Exactly man, after like 3083197863 of SC2 games, it really is boring, but whatever.. From time to time you could announce it, or if it is some really hyped up final, otherwise it´s just a time filler and unecessary. Not everyone is as familair with the game or watches it for the entire weekend. There are plenty of newcomers that drop in for a little while. I'm confused...how is whether or not a viewer is familiar with SC2 relevant? And yeah, like somebody mentioned, it's just a leftover relic from WoL/HoTS when they needed something to fill time during the extremely slow buildup in the early game. It's always been annoying, but now it's annoying and even more unnecessary in LoTV. Player introductions obviously have more value to a newer viewer than an enfranchised one. How so? How do player introductions in every game of a multi-game series help a newer viewer more than a veteran one? The players get introduced in the first game of the series, and their names are up on the big, obvious overlay, not to mention that the casters have to refer to the players by their names. I remember when I was a new viewer myself, I thought it was weird and annoying that they re-introduced and re-hyped the players for every game of series. A good introduction is not just confined to naming who the player is, but also provides background about the player's history or playstyle, and as such wouldn't always be the same. I do agree that just naming a player isn't particularly helpful, though it doesn't take that much time anyways.
What I (and others) are referring to is the practice of introducing the players with a dramatic pronunciation of their name in a hyped up voice every single game. That is annoying and unnecessary, and was instituted in early WoL to help fill up the boring time in the early game.
If you read my actual comment I'm advocating to eliminate that entirely and just briefly touch on the spawning positions, then touch on actually helpful information like the quirks and traits of the map, how X race usually likes to play on this map/from these spawning positions, etc.
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On December 20 2015 08:08 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2015 08:07 Makro wrote:On December 20 2015 07:57 CheddarToss wrote:On December 20 2015 07:54 NarutO wrote:On December 20 2015 07:51 CheddarToss wrote:
My impression after watching many games at HSC is that LotV is light years away from being balanced. It is entirely possible for lesser known players like Dayshi, Firecake and Elazer to defeat players who are leaps and bounds better than them. Lesser known =/= worse According to your signature, you think that MMA is a truly inspiring player. Do you honestly believe that he is currently worse than a no-name like Firecake? a no name like firegod ? show some respect to the best foreigner on LOTV u disgust me
firecake wrote it on his twitter bio, i'm just quoting the truth
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On December 20 2015 06:55 coL.hendralisk wrote:
this dxracer commercial is strange to me, they're trying to associate a chair with fun but it's just a chair
You'll get girls and have fun with that chair.
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On December 20 2015 08:10 Makro wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2015 08:08 Ej_ wrote:On December 20 2015 08:07 Makro wrote:On December 20 2015 07:57 CheddarToss wrote:On December 20 2015 07:54 NarutO wrote:On December 20 2015 07:51 CheddarToss wrote:
My impression after watching many games at HSC is that LotV is light years away from being balanced. It is entirely possible for lesser known players like Dayshi, Firecake and Elazer to defeat players who are leaps and bounds better than them. Lesser known =/= worse According to your signature, you think that MMA is a truly inspiring player. Do you honestly believe that he is currently worse than a no-name like Firecake? a no name like firegod ? show some respect to the best foreigner on LOTV u disgust me firecake wrote it on his twitter bio, i'm just quoting the truth
best foreigner at dreamhack, good shot to win this tournament
he might be right
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MMA: MC looks like Kim Jong-un.
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On December 20 2015 08:10 D-light wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2015 06:55 coL.hendralisk wrote:
this dxracer commercial is strange to me, they're trying to associate a chair with fun but it's just a chair You'll get girls and have fun with that chair.
now that's an interesting time to respond to that post
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On December 20 2015 08:05 sh0ck wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2015 07:59 y0su wrote:On December 20 2015 07:56 KingofdaHipHop wrote:On December 20 2015 07:49 IceBerrY wrote:On December 20 2015 07:44 sh0ck wrote:
To be fair, I agree with Drogo and NightEnd that doing "player introductions" every game and calling out the spawning positions is kind of annoying and unnecessary. Felt that way for a while. Just introduce them in the first game of every match and then in the subsequent games briefly comment on "So drogo spawns in X corner this game while NightEnd spawns Y" or something Exactly man, after like 3083197863 of SC2 games, it really is boring, but whatever.. From time to time you could announce it, or if it is some really hyped up final, otherwise it´s just a time filler and unecessary. idk to me, it feels like the proper way to start a game off. like we know when a tv episode starts because it's the beginning, but they still have the opening. it just feels right Maybe you could start off a series like that - and then do a simple intro each game. I developed this opinion a few weeks ago too (probably DH) that it really doesn't add anything and if it's the same EVERY TIME (as it is) then what's the point? That's exactly what I suggested a few pages back --> Show nested quote +On December 20 2015 07:44 sh0ck wrote:
To be fair, I agree with Drogo and NightEnd that doing "player introductions" every game and calling out the spawning positions is kind of annoying and unnecessary. Felt that way for a while. Just introduce them in the first game of every match and then in the subsequent games briefly comment on "So drogo spawns in X corner this game while NightEnd spawns Y" or something Anyway, I wonder how we'd get this to change. I assume it would be something the casters themselves decide to do/not do? So we should voice our opinions to Tastosis, Apollo, Rotti, Nathanias, etc, I'm thinking.
Tastosis when casting GSL will pretty much never get past player intros. GSL has always done them, and the Korean casters say detailed things during the introduction that English casters will casually mention at some point during the match.
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