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RaFox17
Finland4581 Posts
On December 13 2015 03:13 Big J wrote: I hope they nerf the lurker timing further. It's definitely the biggest problem of PvZ right now! :D They did get few shots off :D | ||
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Luolis
Finland7154 Posts
On December 13 2015 03:14 Leviance wrote: when widow mine was introduced everyone not Terran said the same rofl mines were way less punishing than disruptors. Atleast with mines youll face them when you fight, when you control your army anyways. Sometimes with disruptors dumb shit like that happens. | ||
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Deathstar
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Arvendilin
Germany1878 Posts
On December 13 2015 03:13 Big J wrote: I hope they nerf the lurker timing further. It's definitely the biggest problem of PvZ right now! :D Are you trying to say that Disruptors are somehow the biggest problem in PvZ? You realize that Protoss right now has almost no hope of winning in macroplay that takes it to the lategame, right? | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On December 13 2015 03:16 Arvendilin wrote: Are you trying to say that Disruptors are somehow the biggest problem in PvZ? You realize that Protoss right now has almost no hope of winning in macroplay that takes it to the lategame, right? so you're telling me PvZ is the same as in HotS? | ||
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Arvendilin
Germany1878 Posts
On December 13 2015 03:16 Luolis wrote: rofl mines were way less punishing than disruptors. Atleast with mines youll face them when you fight, when you control your army anyways. Sometimes with disruptors dumb shit like that happens. So mine drops that destroy your entire mineral line in 2 seconds if you don't watch aren't a thing? | ||
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miniskirt
France487 Posts
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
On December 13 2015 03:16 Arvendilin wrote: Are you trying to say that Disruptors are somehow the biggest problem in PvZ? You realize that Protoss right now has almost no hope of winning in macroplay that takes it to the lategame, right? No, I'm saying there is no problem with the lurker timing. As we just saw, it is possible for protoss to have T3 units and a massive timing of a different techpath before lurkers are even on the field. It's what zergs have been saying all along, the unit is already very high in the techtree so it doesn't make sense to delay them even further. It's already kind of T3ish with how many steps you have to take. | ||
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Luolis
Finland7154 Posts
On December 13 2015 03:17 Arvendilin wrote: So mine drops that destroy your entire mineral line in 2 seconds if you don't watch aren't a thing? Atleast mines dont destroy your whole army in 2 seconds if you dont watch (unless you dont look at your army when you fight, aka youre retarded) | ||
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Arvendilin
Germany1878 Posts
On December 13 2015 03:17 Ej_ wrote: so you're telling me PvZ is the same as in HotS? And thats not a good thing, if you want buffed Lurkers or something to hold of early/midgame aggression easier, then give Protoss a lategame... | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On December 13 2015 03:18 Luolis wrote: Atleast mines dont destroy your whole army in 2 seconds if you dont watch (unless you dont look at your army when you fight, aka youre retarded) 5 barely visible mines that need detection to be killed and hit air do about the same damage as a disruptor the mine analogy is actually really good IMHO, because they are stupid broken units that very rarely aren't cost-efficient | ||
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Undead1993
Germany17651 Posts
On December 13 2015 03:18 Big J wrote: No, I'm saying there is no problem with the lurker timing. As we just saw, it is possible for protoss to have T3 units and a massive timing of a different techpath before lurkers are even on the field. It's what zergs have been saying all along, the unit is already very high in the techtree so it doesn't make sense to delay them even further. It's already kind of T3ish with how many steps you have to take. the zerg is this game built a spire taht he never used, so that delayed him quite a bit as well, then he lost his whole premade army of roaches to one disruptor shot for some reason noone will be able to explain, the game was over by then imo. many mistakes by zerg led to the late lurkers | ||
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Keeemy
Finland7855 Posts
On December 13 2015 03:16 Arvendilin wrote: Are you trying to say that Disruptors are somehow the biggest problem in PvZ? You realize that Protoss right now has almost no hope of winning in macroplay that takes it to the lategame, right? What | ||
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RaFox17
Finland4581 Posts
On December 13 2015 03:18 Arvendilin wrote: And thats not a good thing, if you want buffed Lurkers or something to hold of early/midgame aggression easier, then give Protoss a lategame... In Hots protoss had a great late game. They made stalkers with blink. | ||
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Luolis
Finland7154 Posts
On December 13 2015 03:20 Ej_ wrote: 5 barely visible mines that need detection to be killed and hit air do about the same damage as a disruptor the mine analogy is actually really good IMHO, because they are stupid broken units that very rarely aren't cost-efficient k whatever | ||
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
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Arvendilin
Germany1878 Posts
On December 13 2015 03:18 Luolis wrote: Atleast mines dont destroy your whole army in 2 seconds if you dont watch (unless you dont look at your army when you fight, aka youre retarded) That actually happens quite a bit, mines are waay cheaper (so lower opportunity cost) need detection and hit air aswell... | ||
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Elentos
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Luolis
Finland7154 Posts
On December 13 2015 03:21 Arvendilin wrote: That actually happens quite a bit, mines are waay cheaper (so lower opportunity cost) need detection and hit air aswell... yea sry meant outside of battles. | ||
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Undead1993
Germany17651 Posts
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