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On November 28 2015 23:38 Ansibled wrote: StarCraft twitter account is actually really active during a tournament o.O
@Starcraftesports is always active during tournaments though
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On November 28 2015 23:36 Pursuit_ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2015 23:32 Big J wrote:On November 28 2015 23:29 Pursuit_ wrote:On November 28 2015 23:24 SBGamer wrote:
Lategame is terran favored NOW. Liberators are getting figured (or nerfed) out like the hots 3 rax timings. Sooner or later Liberator are going to be useless to build. We also thought Marauder Hellbat was good in HOTS as a new composition in the first months, but it got figured out aswell.
You can 'figure out' how to micro against 1-4 Liberators. You can't 'figure out' how to micro against 10+, you can either overrun them with vastly superior numbers, go around them or not let Terran get there to begin with. Or make a tech that is just good against them as we have seen from many Protoss by including tempests. Which is exactly like telling Terran to make ghosts and vikings to counter high templar and Collosi. It was theoretically possible, but much easier for Protoss than for terran in execution, and eventually terran gave up on that style altogether. What? No, they didn't... Vikings were required as Colossi counterplay in both HOTS and WOL, and never stopped being counter to Colossi. Terrans were still making Ghosts against High Templars, just not all of them.
If you have an option and you are not using it, then I don't see the point in whining, nothing will change.
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On November 28 2015 23:38 royalroadweed wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2015 23:31 Fig wrote: The whole point is that maybe terrans can't always get away with 3 cc's to start anymore. This game it obviously wasn't as safe as in HOTS Are you for real? 3CC vs protoss was one of the riskiest builds for terran to do in hots. What I want to know is why are people assuming it is safe now, so early on in LOTV?
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On November 28 2015 23:39 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2015 23:38 Ansibled wrote: StarCraft twitter account is actually really active during a tournament o.O @Starcraftesports is always active during tournaments though And it has 1000 followers while @StarCraft has 330,000.
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On November 28 2015 23:40 Fig wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2015 23:38 royalroadweed wrote:On November 28 2015 23:31 Fig wrote: The whole point is that maybe terrans can't always get away with 3 cc's to start anymore. This game it obviously wasn't as safe as in HOTS Are you for real? 3CC vs protoss was one of the riskiest builds for terran to do in hots. What I want to know is why are people assuming it is safe now, so early on in LOTV? It is safer compared to hots. And its safer to play 3 base than 2 base with the economy changes.
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On November 28 2015 23:40 Fig wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2015 23:38 royalroadweed wrote:On November 28 2015 23:31 Fig wrote: The whole point is that maybe terrans can't always get away with 3 cc's to start anymore. This game it obviously wasn't as safe as in HOTS Are you for real? 3CC vs protoss was one of the riskiest builds for terran to do in hots. What I want to know is why are people assuming it is safe now, so early on in LOTV? It's obviously not the safest but some risk is necessary as you can't really deny a Protoss from taking an early 3rd of their own because they defend with adepts and pylons. Still, TY's variation with early marine production, cyclones and tanks is the safest early 3rd you can play.
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On November 28 2015 23:40 Ramiz1989 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2015 23:36 Pursuit_ wrote:On November 28 2015 23:32 Big J wrote:On November 28 2015 23:29 Pursuit_ wrote:On November 28 2015 23:24 SBGamer wrote:
Lategame is terran favored NOW. Liberators are getting figured (or nerfed) out like the hots 3 rax timings. Sooner or later Liberator are going to be useless to build. We also thought Marauder Hellbat was good in HOTS as a new composition in the first months, but it got figured out aswell.
You can 'figure out' how to micro against 1-4 Liberators. You can't 'figure out' how to micro against 10+, you can either overrun them with vastly superior numbers, go around them or not let Terran get there to begin with. Or make a tech that is just good against them as we have seen from many Protoss by including tempests. Which is exactly like telling Terran to make ghosts and vikings to counter high templar and Collosi. It was theoretically possible, but much easier for Protoss than for terran in execution, and eventually terran gave up on that style altogether. What? No, they didn't... Vikings were required as Colossi counterplay in both HOTS and WOL, and never stopped being counter to Colossi. Terrans were still making Ghosts against High Templars, just not all of them. If you have an option and you are not using it, then I don't see the point in whining, nothing will change. The most successful terran were making as few vikings and ghosts as possible until the game got into the much, much later stages. They were mostly relying on multipronged harass / attacks, huge surrounds and/or base trades.
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On November 28 2015 23:36 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: This downtime though... GET ON WITH IT! My hype needs satisfaction
you hype needs to be cooled.
have some anti-hype boredom
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Lorning
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On November 28 2015 23:42 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2015 23:40 Fig wrote:On November 28 2015 23:38 royalroadweed wrote:On November 28 2015 23:31 Fig wrote: The whole point is that maybe terrans can't always get away with 3 cc's to start anymore. This game it obviously wasn't as safe as in HOTS Are you for real? 3CC vs protoss was one of the riskiest builds for terran to do in hots. What I want to know is why are people assuming it is safe now, so early on in LOTV? It's obviously not the safest but some risk is necessary as you can't really deny a Protoss from taking an early 3rd of their own because they defend with adepts and pylons. Still, TY's variation with early marine production, cyclones and tanks is the safest early 3rd you can play. I agree that it seems like a good way to open at the moment, so we'll see what happens going forward.
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Liquid'Showtime? Yes please!
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Why did Showtime fall down in hots? He had one great WCS run I think ?
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On November 28 2015 23:44 Musicus wrote: Liquid'Showtime? Yes please! I'd pay for that.
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On November 28 2015 23:37 TMStarcraft wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2015 23:31 VmY wrote:On November 28 2015 23:27 TMStarcraft wrote:That said I'm glad TY lost and hope that Ts continue to lose so the history of nerfing T to shit early on doesn't happen again  Starcraft community in a nutshell. Awful attitude. Well I am exaggerating but trying to find positives is awful? Trying to find positive things is great, saying you hope race X continues to lose because of nerf/buff reasons is dumb.
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On November 28 2015 23:44 Lorning wrote: time for godchio the time has come
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didn't know ShowTime was teamless as of now
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Winner earns a bo5 with PartinG. Who played one of the most high-skill series in LotV so far just a few minutes ago. Definitely don't wanna miss out on that reward.
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On November 28 2015 23:46 Ej_ wrote:the time has come
showtime is an atheist
nerchio has no powers here. eat adepts and blink stalkers
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On November 28 2015 23:46 Elentos wrote: Winner earns a bo5 with PartinG. Who played one of the most high-skill series in LotV so far just a few minutes ago. Definitely don't wanna miss out on that reward.
I mean they also get a meal's worth of money or so
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