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China2430 Posts
On September 26 2015 04:26 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2015 04:26 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
What the..
how is HyuN in the finals? xD
good on him for making it he outplayed all of his bracket
how did he beat Rain?
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Sweden24578 Posts
On September 26 2015 04:24 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2015 04:23 Heartland wrote:On September 26 2015 04:22 Ej_ wrote:On September 26 2015 04:21 Heartland wrote:On September 26 2015 04:20 Ej_ wrote:On September 26 2015 04:20 Zealously wrote:On September 26 2015 04:17 chipmonklord17 wrote:On September 26 2015 04:16 Psychonian wrote:
dark.
fucking.
shrine.
i have no words. I really don't get the stargate into DT thing. You force the zerg into make spores because of the stargate and then you're already detected BISUUUU oracles don't kill overseers I think it was to use them defensively actually. As in that Coda game. yeah you kill the slow overlord with sairs and then can handle a hydra bust, but the key is to snipe that detection. And you force spores on top of that as well. I wasn't discussing BW DTs ; ) I meant why sOs made DTs in this game even after he had forced Spores. I thought we were discussing a hypothetical SG/DT macro build. I know BisuDagger does the neo bisu in SC2 because he's hardcore
ah okay. I think there is a legit Naniwa 2013 build which is DTs into double VR production. The VRs use their prismatic alignment on Overseers and then DTs kill any counterattacking units. It's relatively okay if Zerg doesn't know the build.
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On September 26 2015 04:25 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
I think sOs got this.
The he did that.
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On September 26 2015 04:27 MiniFotToss wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2015 04:26 Ej_ wrote:On September 26 2015 04:26 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
What the..
how is HyuN in the finals? xD
good on him for making it he outplayed all of his bracket how did he beat Rain?
he outplayed him
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for the first time rotterdam was right
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United States97274 Posts
sOs blew it. Solar with better decision making
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On September 26 2015 04:22 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2015 04:17 ZAiNs wrote:On September 26 2015 04:14 Rollora wrote:On September 26 2015 04:08 HellHound wrote:On September 26 2015 04:05 Rollora wrote:On September 26 2015 03:58 joshie0808 wrote:On September 26 2015 03:56 Rollora wrote:On September 26 2015 03:52 CheddarToss wrote:On September 26 2015 03:49 Rollora wrote:
I wonder if sOs would have ANY success if there wasn't so much cheese avaliable and he was forced to play a macro game without bullshit Of course. no he wouldn't. DIdn't see ONE straightup, "honest" macro game without bullshit, he doesn't even know how to play it Lol so salty, sc is a game of hidden information. Go watch chess if you want 'honest' games where everyone knows everything. SoS is just playing the game. Not hard for Solar to scout better. Solar 9 pooled this game and SoS scouted. Just how things work out you mean protoss is the race of hidden things. There is a difference between leaving someone in the dark as long as possible (for terran: hiding you go mech or bio or so, for terran hide buildings), but the only race that works so often JUST because it has hidden something or you can win only because you hid something (not because of skill) is protoss. Not saying sOs has no skill, on the contrary the huge variety of builds he knows impresses me, and reading his opponent, comebacks, mindgames... and yeah, lol i should watch chess.... or ANY other sport, because I cannot remember andy sport that works that way: hide something to surprise the oponent and if he isn't prepared then you win. The only thing that reminds me of is faking an injury/foul in soccer to win by penalties if you are the worse team and cannot score goals by yourself And stop that bullshit statement of scouting better. you can hide things so they can NOT be scouted Every sport and game has hidden information SC2 is just more blatant about it. Protoss having the most varied cheeses is a fact no one right in the head is arguing that so there is no need to repeat it over and over :D Sorry, it just annoys me, that you can win a game solely by surprising an enemy  It really kills the fun for me. It completely takes it away for me, and many others. Its bad design I think Starcraft is a great game if you have a fun, macro games against zerg or terran, even toss if you have one that doesn't cheese. But it immidiately gets frustrating, more then a normal loss, when you lose JUST because of BS. I hope you understand my frustration  You're probably only going to lose to a surprise if you take risks. Though at a top-level I admit it's necessary to take risks sometimes. I do think you're blowing things out of proportion, people seem to think PvP is hast he most luck and bullshit yet someone like Zest has an insane PvP winrate vs other Koreans despite PvP's reputation. Oh lol someone is arguing that protoss isn't a bag of bullshit haha If you play safe in to cheese it makes it harder to defend earlier timings If you play safe vs early timings you expose yourself to later timings Playing safe vs later timings involve skipping safety measures to early timings/cheese to get more econ before they hit. Balancing those is what zvp is about. There is no one safe build.
thats the struggle. The constand "ladder - mindgame"
btw why the hell didn't he recall out before everything died?
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Do artificial intelligences get survivors's guilt?
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This Mothership Core is the guy who hides in the forest during the entire war and comes back to the homeland by taking a plane casually.
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On September 26 2015 04:27 Die4Ever wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2015 04:27 MiniFotToss wrote:On September 26 2015 04:26 Ej_ wrote:On September 26 2015 04:26 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
What the..
how is HyuN in the finals? xD
good on him for making it he outplayed all of his bracket how did he beat Rain? he outplayed him
roach good unit
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China2430 Posts
On September 26 2015 04:27 Die4Ever wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2015 04:27 MiniFotToss wrote:On September 26 2015 04:26 Ej_ wrote:On September 26 2015 04:26 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
What the..
how is HyuN in the finals? xD
good on him for making it he outplayed all of his bracket how did he beat Rain? he outplayed him
plz elaborate
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Already in the top 40 game of 2015
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On September 26 2015 04:27 MiniFotToss wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2015 04:26 Ej_ wrote:On September 26 2015 04:26 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
What the..
how is HyuN in the finals? xD
good on him for making it he outplayed all of his bracket how did he beat Rain?
lost to misread immo all-in, 9pool vs nexus first,then a roach/speedling bust on Terraform, then easy hold of zealot/cannon rush attack into easy hold of a 2 base void/gateway all-in
On September 26 2015 04:27 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2015 04:24 Ej_ wrote:On September 26 2015 04:23 Heartland wrote:On September 26 2015 04:22 Ej_ wrote:On September 26 2015 04:21 Heartland wrote:On September 26 2015 04:20 Ej_ wrote:On September 26 2015 04:20 Zealously wrote:On September 26 2015 04:17 chipmonklord17 wrote:On September 26 2015 04:16 Psychonian wrote:
dark.
fucking.
shrine.
i have no words. I really don't get the stargate into DT thing. You force the zerg into make spores because of the stargate and then you're already detected BISUUUU oracles don't kill overseers I think it was to use them defensively actually. As in that Coda game. yeah you kill the slow overlord with sairs and then can handle a hydra bust, but the key is to snipe that detection. And you force spores on top of that as well. I wasn't discussing BW DTs ; ) I meant why sOs made DTs in this game even after he had forced Spores. I thought we were discussing a hypothetical SG/DT macro build. I know BisuDagger does the neo bisu in SC2 because he's hardcore ah okay. I think there is a legit Naniwa 2013 build which is DTs into double VR production. The VRs use their prismatic alignment on Overseers and then DTs kill any counterattacking units. It's relatively okay if Zerg doesn't know the build.
I fucking hate that Naniwa build man. Scarlett vs Naniwa showmatch broke me.
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Just what in the fuck is this game? Why can't all starcraft be like this?
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On September 26 2015 04:28 MiniFotToss wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2015 04:27 Die4Ever wrote:On September 26 2015 04:27 MiniFotToss wrote:On September 26 2015 04:26 Ej_ wrote:On September 26 2015 04:26 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
What the..
how is HyuN in the finals? xD
good on him for making it he outplayed all of his bracket how did he beat Rain? he outplayed him plz elaborate
Rain is no Has
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On September 26 2015 04:28 fezvez wrote:
Already in the top 40 game of 2015
top 26 imo
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