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chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
September 26 2015 03:48 GMT
#2101
On September 26 2015 09:55 ZAiNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2015 09:19 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On September 26 2015 08:20 Boucot wrote:
On September 26 2015 08:04 geokilla wrote:
On September 26 2015 06:17 Boucot wrote:
On September 26 2015 06:16 showstealer1829 wrote:
On September 26 2015 06:07 Yorkie wrote:
Solar winning this tournament actually puts him just outside of Blizzcon. he's gonna be up at night thinking about if he did just a little better earlier in the year


And yet Lilbow is in. The system is a joke

Yeah, such a shame that a double WCS finalist (and winner) is qualified for the WCS finals.

WCS is weak compared to SSL and GSL. WCS points rewards players that fly and play around the world. It doesn't reward skill.

Lilbow shouldn't be taken into account. He did well in the WCS tournaments, he deserves his spot, period. However I agree that tournaments like Copenhagen Games or MSI should give less points. There should be a bigger gap between this kind of tournaments and DH/IEM.


My personal take is to make WCS/GSL/SSL more points, which essentially does the same thing. The fact that this 500 point gain is the most Hyun has gotten from any result all year is how broken the system is. You have players like Dear/Dark who qualified for all 6 starleagues of the year or players like Bunny who do amazingly well in 2 of the 3 seasons. Hell Mana is the only finalist of the 9 WCS tournaments (6 starleagues and 3 WCS) that isn't at Blizzcon. Yet Fantasy and Hyun are playing for a spot instead of any of them.

I wanted Dark to take the last spot over anyone else because he stayed in Korea and did excellent in Kespa cups, but you're being really unfair to Hyun. Hyun actually knocked Dark out of SSL in the RO8 of S2, and this tournament he performed really well even taking out Rain, whereas Dark choked vs Leenock. Dear also hasn't done super amazing this year but narrowly lost his spot to a 3-4.


Yes Hyun beat dark in their head to head this year but its absolutely impossible to argue that dark/dear haven't completely outperformed Hyun/Fantasy in WCS events (GSL/SSL). Hyun isn't bad but his performance in the WCS tournaments was mediocre at best, and if you're mediocre at best in the actual WCS performances but still get into the WCS finals because of weekend tournaments the system is flawed. The same can be said for Fantasy for a slightly lesser degree.

This doesn't even take into account the WCS players like Bunny/Mana but people enjoy arguing about their achievements because they're in WCS not SSL/GSL so I'll stick with Dear/Dark
redloser
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1749 Posts
September 26 2015 04:47 GMT
#2102
would they release the replays this time?
NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
September 26 2015 06:54 GMT
#2103
Congrats to Solar! Couldn't watch the finals but I knew he could do it
SuperNova - 2015 | SKT1 fan for years | Dear, FlaSh, PartinG, Soulkey, Naniwa
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