EPTOn September 26 2015 06:16 showstealer1829 wrote:
And yet Lilbow is in. The system is a joke
And yet Lilbow is in. The system is a joke
I dunno man, back to back finals is a pretty rare feat.
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TheDougler
Canada8318 Posts
I dunno man, back to back finals is a pretty rare feat. | ||
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Yorkie
United States12612 Posts
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On September 26 2015 06:56 Yorkie wrote: I want to make a hype video for Blizzcon but this tie scenario is annoying lol should I do it with 17 players in it? Obviously I can't wait til the tiebreaker is played I wouldn't have enough time to make it good Nah just make two versions  | ||
Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On September 26 2015 06:56 Yorkie wrote: I want to make a hype video for Blizzcon but this tie scenario is annoying lol should I do it with 17 players in it? Obviously I can't wait til the tiebreaker is played I wouldn't have enough time to make it good Hyun is going to beat Fantasy so just leave Fantasy out | ||
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Yorkie
United States12612 Posts
fuk u. I'll just give Fantasy and Hyun half as much screen time as the other players since they're only half qualified and don't have much of a shot anyway | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24239 Posts
On September 26 2015 06:57 Shellshock wrote: Hyun is going to beat Fantasy so just leave Fantasy out both players are going to get trashed by herO so just leave them out | ||
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Yorkie
United States12612 Posts
On September 26 2015 06:57 Shellshock wrote: Hyun is going to beat Fantasy so just leave Fantasy out I'll just include clips of them losing to other blizzcon players. kills two birds with one stone | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24239 Posts
On September 26 2015 06:59 Yorkie wrote: I'll just include clips of them losing to other blizzcon players. kills two birds with one stone ha ha ha | ||
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Yorkie
United States12612 Posts
I was gonna put in herO's blink micro basetrade win vs Hyun anyway | ||
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KingofdaHipHop
United States25602 Posts
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geokilla
Canada8255 Posts
On September 26 2015 06:17 Boucot wrote: Yeah, such a shame that a double WCS finalist (and winner) is qualified for the WCS finals. WCS is weak compared to SSL and GSL. WCS points rewards players that fly and play around the world. It doesn't reward skill. | ||
BisuDagger
Bisutopia19379 Posts
On September 26 2015 04:24 Ej_ wrote: I thought we were discussing a hypothetical SG/DT macro build. I know BisuDagger does the neo bisu in SC2 because he's hardcore It's my PvZ opening every time. | ||
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imre
France9263 Posts
On September 26 2015 08:04 geokilla wrote: WCS is weak compared to SSL and GSL. WCS points rewards players that fly and play around the world. It doesn't reward skill. the two players getting there without much points from official WCS events are playing in korea mind you | ||
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
On September 26 2015 08:04 geokilla wrote: WCS is weak compared to SSL and GSL. WCS points rewards players that fly and play around the world. It doesn't reward skill. Lilbow shouldn't be taken into account. He did well in the WCS tournaments, he deserves his spot, period. However I agree that tournaments like Copenhagen Games or MSI should give less points. There should be a bigger gap between this kind of tournaments and DH/IEM. | ||
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chipmonklord17
United States11944 Posts
On September 26 2015 08:20 Boucot wrote: Lilbow shouldn't be taken into account. He did well in the WCS tournaments, he deserves his spot, period. However I agree that tournaments like Copenhagen Games or MSI should give less points. There should be a bigger gap between this kind of tournaments and DH/IEM. My personal take is to make WCS/GSL/SSL more points, which essentially does the same thing. The fact that this 500 point gain is the most Hyun has gotten from any result all year is how broken the system is. You have players like Dear/Dark who qualified for all 6 starleagues of the year or players like Bunny who do amazingly well in 2 of the 3 seasons. Hell Mana is the only finalist of the 9 WCS tournaments (6 starleagues and 3 WCS) that isn't at Blizzcon. Yet Fantasy and Hyun are playing for a spot instead of any of them. | ||
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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
On September 26 2015 09:19 chipmonklord17 wrote: My personal take is to make WCS/GSL/SSL more points, which essentially does the same thing. The fact that this 500 point gain is the most Hyun has gotten from any result all year is how broken the system is. You have players like Dear/Dark who qualified for all 6 starleagues of the year or players like Bunny who do amazingly well in 2 of the 3 seasons. Hell Mana is the only finalist of the 9 WCS tournaments (6 starleagues and 3 WCS) that isn't at Blizzcon. Yet Fantasy and Hyun are playing for a spot instead of any of them. I wanted Dark to take the last spot over anyone else because he stayed in Korea and did excellent in Kespa cups, but you're being really unfair to Hyun. Hyun actually knocked Dark out of SSL in the RO8 of S2, and this tournament he performed really well even taking out Rain, whereas Dark choked vs Leenock. Dear also hasn't done super amazing this year but narrowly lost his spot to a 3-4. | ||
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Cricketer12
United States14000 Posts
On September 26 2015 08:15 sAsImre wrote: the two players getting there without much points from official WCS events are playing in korea mind you he does have a point though, remember last year? Bomber and HyuN in first and second place...let that sink in for a brief moment | ||
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MiniFotToss
China2430 Posts
On September 26 2015 06:28 chipmonklord17 wrote: I agree with this but at the same time herO is a league better than both of them and everyone involved is practicing for two matches. Its not like one of the potential 16th place players gets the same match up again versus herO. Rain is much better than Hyun, skill-wise & result-wise, still lost to him... | ||
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MiniFotToss
China2430 Posts
On September 26 2015 09:55 ZAiNs wrote: I wanted Dark to take the last spot over anyone else because he stayed in Korea and did excellent in Kespa cups, but you're being really unfair to Hyun. Hyun actually knocked Dark out of SSL in the RO8 of S2, and this tournament he performed really well even taking out Rain, whereas Dark choked vs Leenock. Dear also hasn't done super amazing this year but narrowly lost his spot to a 3-4. Hyun beat Dark in Challenger | ||
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_TMT_
Vietnam114 Posts
On September 26 2015 08:04 geokilla wrote: WCS is weak compared to SSL and GSL. WCS points rewards players that fly and play around the world. It doesn't reward skill. This is pure short-sightedness. The system currently is healthy for the scene. Good players are encouraged to travel, so that tournaments like IEM, DH are stacked as hell. Otherwise expected money sometimes does not worth the travel cost. Besides, we still have like 10 absolute best players (except Polt, Hydra, Lilbow, Hyun/Fanta) at Blizzcon, so the chance of having the real champion is still high. Like the WC, it reserves lower spots for weak regions, and that's perfectly fine. | ||
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