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[WCS] Playoffs Day 2 - Season 3 2015 - Page 90

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Senseless bashing of foreigners and WCS game quality is not permitted today. Criticism is fine, but let's not repeat yesterday's mess. Games can be enjoyed without the presence of constant vitriol.
14:18 GMT (+00:00) Edit: This is your friendly reminder that whining about Protoss is an old and tired thing. Don't.
-Zealously
HelpMeGetBetter
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
United States766 Posts
September 13 2015 16:45 GMT
#1781
A draw helps both players. ForGG stays alive, and Mana can lose a game and still be alive.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
September 13 2015 16:45 GMT
#1782
On September 14 2015 01:44 djraphi23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2015 01:43 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 14 2015 01:42 djraphi23 wrote:
Mana was huge guys. Even if he splits in half, he still wins the fight against the whole army of ForGG.

it doesn't matter vs 1 cloak banshee and no detection


Mana would have hunted the whole map with blink stalkers to spot any starport and depots.

maybe, still I wanted to see it. There was definitely room to fuck up and I hope ForGG wins the regame...
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
September 13 2015 16:45 GMT
#1783
On September 14 2015 01:44 graNite wrote:
can anyone link the handbook or the passage of it that tells us to stop the game immediately if it looks like a draw a tiny bit


Yeah, this was weird to me... all else, meh
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17744 Posts
September 13 2015 16:46 GMT
#1784
On September 14 2015 01:44 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2015 01:43 egernya wrote:
How the hell was it a draw? Forgg just needed to build some depots and build cloaked banshees with 0 percent of probability to lose.


ForGG had a single SCV and not enough supply for a banshee. There is no way he'd be able to use that single scv to build a CC AND enough supply depots for a banshee before Mana just kills him

suicide army, build banshee, win
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chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
September 13 2015 16:46 GMT
#1785
On September 14 2015 01:45 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2015 01:44 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On September 14 2015 01:43 egernya wrote:
How the hell was it a draw? Forgg just needed to build some depots and build cloaked banshees with 0 percent of probability to lose.


ForGG had a single SCV and not enough supply for a depot. There is no way he'd be able to use that single scv to build a CC AND enough supply depots for a banshee before Mana just kills him

Who cares ? he suicides everything and like that he can produce banshees


ForGG was revealed. While he kills everything he dies because Mana walks over and kills him
Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3135 Posts
September 13 2015 16:46 GMT
#1786
Forgg agreed to this, he obviously didn't want to play with a bunch of stress for a long time for a very slim chance of victory.

Honestly this is better for Forgg than Mana. It breaks Mana's momentum and gives him the stress of not quite winning a game.
Dies Irae venit. youtube.com/SnobbinsFilms
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
September 13 2015 16:46 GMT
#1787
On September 14 2015 01:45 TheNewEra wrote:
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On September 14 2015 01:42 Pr0wler wrote:
WTF is that ??? Why is it a draw, when ForGG still has recources AND starport with a techlab... And why the fuck are they consulting with Mana and not even talking to ForGG... Hometown bias !!!

Because until ForGG gets the banshee mana could have killed him 10 times. Because Forgg has no depots. Mana was in the driver seat. Mana was in the driver seat with a huge advantage... The question is why Mana agrees to this...

buldings were in a sweet spot, can't be hit by stalkers
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Glorfindel!
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1815 Posts
September 13 2015 16:46 GMT
#1788
Still not sure that is a safe spot for the factory.
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/598681/1/Glorfindel/ladder/161337#current-rank
graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
September 13 2015 16:46 GMT
#1789
On September 14 2015 01:44 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2015 01:43 egernya wrote:
How the hell was it a draw? Forgg just needed to build some depots and build cloaked banshees with 0 percent of probability to lose.


ForGG had a single SCV and not enough supply for a banshee. There is no way he'd be able to use that single scv to build a CC AND enough supply depots for a banshee before Mana just kills him


??? he had 1000 minerals so he can build a CC, 2 depots and a cloaked banshee. (didnt see his gas though)
"Oink oink, bitches" - Tasteless on Pigbaby winning a map against Flash
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
September 13 2015 16:46 GMT
#1790
On September 14 2015 01:45 -YoricK- wrote:
ForGG didn't have enough minerals to go for supply depots, cloak, and a banshee no? He would have had to build a CC and mine more so it would have taken forever for him to even have a chance.

He had 1k minerals.
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
September 13 2015 16:46 GMT
#1791
Holy moly this viewership! Awesome!
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
September 13 2015 16:46 GMT
#1792
All you need is a drone and a chair right?!

In all fairness to the refs, Mana could never kill floating buildings if they managed to find any sort of air space that stalkers couldn't reach, so if anything it's favorable to Mana to call the draw when technically ForGG could mine again, if unlikely.
In Inca we trust
Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2661 Posts
September 13 2015 16:46 GMT
#1793
On September 14 2015 01:45 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2015 01:44 Superbanana wrote:
On September 14 2015 01:43 DJHelium wrote:
On September 14 2015 01:42 Fran_ wrote:
On September 14 2015 01:42 kaykoose wrote:
Why did forgg agree to this.....


He couldn't build the banshee cause he had no depot


He could build a CC still


He had money for another cc?


Yeah like 600+ minerals.


He had like 1000
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
September 13 2015 16:46 GMT
#1794
Mana can see what ForGG builds he definitely will know ForGG has something up, plus ForGG no longer has a force to stop the Stalkers from roaming the map.
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
September 13 2015 16:46 GMT
#1795
Big mistake. I'm not saying ForGG would win or anything, but the pause was too fast and gave too much indriect information to both playters.

ForGG was still in a position to steal a win or have Mana throw.
Moderator
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
September 13 2015 16:46 GMT
#1796
This tournament is certainly doing its best to deliver everything you could reasonably hope for with its lineup. Even a PvP finals (I think Mana would win that) would be a worthy ending I think
AdministratorBreak the chains
hitpoint
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1511 Posts
September 13 2015 16:46 GMT
#1797
On September 14 2015 01:45 -YoricK- wrote:
ForGG didn't have enough minerals to go for supply depots, cloak, and a banshee no? He would have had to build a CC and mine more so it would have taken forever for him to even have a chance.


But that chance existed. The refs had no business stopping the game prematurely.
It's spelled LOSE not LOOSE.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
September 13 2015 16:46 GMT
#1798
On September 14 2015 01:45 Pr0wler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2015 01:43 Penev wrote:
On September 14 2015 01:42 Pr0wler wrote:
WTF is that ??? Why is it a draw, when ForGG still has recources AND starport with a techlab... And why the fuck are they consulting with Mana and not even talking to ForGG... Hometown bias !!!

They consult with both obviously

-_____-

It's not obvious when they didn't show it on screen...

Common sense

My god some people in this thread
I Protoss winner, could it be?
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
September 13 2015 16:46 GMT
#1799
On September 14 2015 01:45 -YoricK- wrote:
ForGG didn't have enough minerals to go for supply depots, cloak, and a banshee no? He would have had to build a CC and mine more so it would have taken forever for him to even have a chance.

He had 1000 500
lastride
Profile Joined April 2014
2390 Posts
September 13 2015 16:46 GMT
#1800
On September 14 2015 01:44 sharkie wrote:
why are people arguing here? forgg agreed for sure here

It doesnt matter imo If there are some chances they should let this go on.
Something similar happened in Blizzcon I think and the player who agreed regreted that for sure. I think it was HyuN vs somebody
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