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Senseless bashing of foreigners and WCS game quality is not permitted today. Criticism is fine, but let's not repeat yesterday's mess. Games can be enjoyed without the presence of constant vitriol.
14:18 GMT (+00:00) Edit: This is your friendly reminder that whining about Protoss is an old and tired thing. Don't.
-Zealously
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 13 2015 16:46 GMT
#1801
honestly this pause was just bullshit and everyone can agree on that
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8160 Posts
September 13 2015 16:46 GMT
#1802
Fuck liquibets GO MANA
StrategyTaeJa #1 || @TL_Jer99 || "seeker seeked out his seeking"
Flopgun
Profile Joined August 2005
Germany274 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-13 16:46:50
September 13 2015 16:46 GMT
#1803
If ForGG hadnt agreed to the tie, it would have been a big tell for Mana of ForGGs left bank, units and buildings.
Jaedong fighting
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
September 13 2015 16:46 GMT
#1804
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
September 13 2015 16:46 GMT
#1805
On September 14 2015 01:45 KingAlphard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2015 01:43 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 14 2015 01:43 Boucot wrote:
I'm ok with the draw. ForGG had no army.

MaNa had no detection come on ! If he realises that he suicides all his army, gets two banshees, curtains


Exactly lol,no money to build a nexus and ForGG knew it cause he was revealed. All he needed is to keep his floating buildings still while the banshees destroys everyhting.

And btw he had 700 minerals iirc? He could build like 4 depots + banshee and cloak, come on...

Well, is it a sweet spot? I thought you can attack the floating buildings with stalkers there.
Midas <3 Casy <3 BeSt <3 | Pray to Doh-men, heathens! | Zwischen Harz und Heideland
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
September 13 2015 16:46 GMT
#1806
Also there is no way the banshee could have enough energy and dps to outpace Mana's entire army
NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
September 13 2015 16:46 GMT
#1807
Gogo Mana!
SuperNova - 2015 | SKT1 fan for years | Dear, FlaSh, PartinG, Soulkey, Naniwa
Glorfindel!
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1815 Posts
September 13 2015 16:46 GMT
#1808
and also, could ForGG not just suicide his army and make a banshee?
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/598681/1/Glorfindel/ladder/161337#current-rank
Slydie
Profile Joined August 2013
2016 Posts
September 13 2015 16:47 GMT
#1809
DEFINITELY, he still could've went full FOREIGNER considering ForGG still had some army left and 1 SCV to build a CC.


Those drawn own stalemate games are nothing you want to show the crowd. Been there done that! Good thing ForGG thought so as well.
Buff the siegetank
Magnifico
Profile Joined March 2013
1958 Posts
September 13 2015 16:47 GMT
#1810
On September 14 2015 01:46 stuchiu wrote:
Big mistake. I'm not saying ForGG would win or anything, but the pause was too fast and gave too much indriect information to both playters.

ForGG was still in a position to steal a win or have Mana throw.


Exactly.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
September 13 2015 16:47 GMT
#1811
On September 14 2015 01:46 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2015 01:45 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 14 2015 01:44 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On September 14 2015 01:43 egernya wrote:
How the hell was it a draw? Forgg just needed to build some depots and build cloaked banshees with 0 percent of probability to lose.


ForGG had a single SCV and not enough supply for a depot. There is no way he'd be able to use that single scv to build a CC AND enough supply depots for a banshee before Mana just kills him

Who cares ? he suicides everything and like that he can produce banshees


ForGG was revealed. While he kills everything he dies because Mana walks over and kills him

There are sweet spots on that map

ForGG was robbed
DinosaurPoop
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
687 Posts
September 13 2015 16:47 GMT
#1812
GO FORGG YOU CAN WIN THIS
When cats speak, mice listen.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18763 Posts
September 13 2015 16:47 GMT
#1813
On September 14 2015 01:46 DJHelium wrote:
https://twitter.com/day9tv/status/643103273881219072


day9 is watching sc2? wtf
KingAlphard
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Italy1705 Posts
September 13 2015 16:47 GMT
#1814
On September 14 2015 01:45 TheNewEra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2015 01:42 Pr0wler wrote:
WTF is that ??? Why is it a draw, when ForGG still has recources AND starport with a techlab... And why the fuck are they consulting with Mana and not even talking to ForGG... Hometown bias !!!

Because until ForGG gets the banshee mana could have killed him 10 times. Because Forgg has no depots. Mana was in the driver seat. Mana was in the driver seat with a huge advantage... The question is why Mana agrees to this...


No. ForGG could never lose that game cause he had floating buildings and mana had no nexus. So he could just try and build depots with his scvs, if he got that banshee out the game was won 100%:
xxjcdentonxx
Profile Joined November 2012
Canada163 Posts
September 13 2015 16:47 GMT
#1815
seems like the tournament admins felt that although someone could have won, it wasn't worth risking losing viewers over a differently paced in-game situation.
"Expand or die." —Ferengi Rule of Acquisition #45
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
September 13 2015 16:47 GMT
#1816
On September 14 2015 01:46 Glorfindel! wrote:
and also, could ForGG not just suicide his army and make a banshee?

of course he could...
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
September 13 2015 16:47 GMT
#1817
On September 14 2015 01:46 DJHelium wrote:
https://twitter.com/day9tv/status/643103273881219072

wow Day9 watches starcraft
Neosteel Enthusiast
graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-13 16:47:48
September 13 2015 16:47 GMT
#1818
Why is noone talking about the ESL referee pause??

In ingame chat, the ESL referee wrote:
ppp


That is one p too much. Where are the penalty points?
"Oink oink, bitches" - Tasteless on Pigbaby winning a map against Flash
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
September 13 2015 16:47 GMT
#1819
On September 14 2015 01:47 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2015 01:46 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On September 14 2015 01:45 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 14 2015 01:44 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On September 14 2015 01:43 egernya wrote:
How the hell was it a draw? Forgg just needed to build some depots and build cloaked banshees with 0 percent of probability to lose.


ForGG had a single SCV and not enough supply for a depot. There is no way he'd be able to use that single scv to build a CC AND enough supply depots for a banshee before Mana just kills him

Who cares ? he suicides everything and like that he can produce banshees


ForGG was revealed. While he kills everything he dies because Mana walks over and kills him

There are sweet spots on that map

ForGG was robbed


He agreed who cares.
RIP MKP
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
September 13 2015 16:47 GMT
#1820
On September 14 2015 01:46 digmouse wrote:
Mana can see what ForGG builds he definitely will know ForGG has something up, plus ForGG no longer has a force to stop the Stalkers from roaming the map.


Mana doesnt know about the exact tate of ForGG's army until the pause happens.
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