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your Country52797 Posts
On August 27 2015 20:24 The_Templar wrote:Poll: Recommend herO vs MyuNgSiK Game 2?★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (7) 70% ★- Do not see this game no matter what (2) 20% ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1) 10% ★★★ - Good game (0) 0% ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0) 0% 10 total votes Your vote: Recommend herO vs MyuNgSiK Game 2? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what (Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (Vote): ★★★ - Good game (Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game (Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season
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Well MyunNgSiK had a good run.
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Austria24417 Posts
That's anticlimactic ;( I think with better positioning and MSC use, Myungsik could have gotten the nexus. He had to, he was completely all in. Not sure why he didn't commit to it.
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On August 27 2015 20:23 Ej_ wrote: just a reminder that this is Myungsik's 2nd ro8 in a Korean starleague how exactly did he beat fucking dream
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On August 27 2015 20:24 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 20:23 Ej_ wrote: just a reminder that this is Myungsik's 2nd ro8 in a Korean starleague how exactly did he beat fucking dream with some help from Genius
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On August 27 2015 20:24 DarkLordOlli wrote: That's anticlimactic ;( I think with better positioning and MSC use, Myungsik could have gotten the nexus. He had to, he was completely all in. Not sure why he didn't commit to it.
The nexus was empty of Probes anyway so it was 2 base vs 2 base, I think he was looking for an army wipe into win. Rather than risk losing a fight because he dove the nexus.
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Austria24417 Posts
On August 27 2015 20:25 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 20:24 DarkLordOlli wrote: That's anticlimactic ;( I think with better positioning and MSC use, Myungsik could have gotten the nexus. He had to, he was completely all in. Not sure why he didn't commit to it. The nexus was empty of Probes anyway so it was 2 base vs 2 base, I think he was looking for an army wipe into win. Rather than risk losing a fight because he dove the nexus.
That's what you do in PvP every time though. The third nexus stays empty until the opponent takes theirs, otherwise you die. Doesn't mean that it doesn't still have a massive impact on the game. Just the fact that it exists puts Myungsik on a timer.
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On August 27 2015 20:26 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 20:25 Heartland wrote:On August 27 2015 20:24 DarkLordOlli wrote: That's anticlimactic ;( I think with better positioning and MSC use, Myungsik could have gotten the nexus. He had to, he was completely all in. Not sure why he didn't commit to it. The nexus was empty of Probes anyway so it was 2 base vs 2 base, I think he was looking for an army wipe into win. Rather than risk losing a fight because he dove the nexus. That's what you do in PvP every time though. The third nexus stays empty until the opponent takes theirs, otherwise you die. Doesn't mean that it doesn't still have a massive impact on the game. Just the fact that it exists puts Myungsik on a timer.
Yeah, but he was getting up his own third so I guess he pressures to make sure Hero can't probe until they are on even footing.
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Austria24417 Posts
On August 27 2015 20:27 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 20:26 DarkLordOlli wrote:On August 27 2015 20:25 Heartland wrote:On August 27 2015 20:24 DarkLordOlli wrote: That's anticlimactic ;( I think with better positioning and MSC use, Myungsik could have gotten the nexus. He had to, he was completely all in. Not sure why he didn't commit to it. The nexus was empty of Probes anyway so it was 2 base vs 2 base, I think he was looking for an army wipe into win. Rather than risk losing a fight because he dove the nexus. That's what you do in PvP every time though. The third nexus stays empty until the opponent takes theirs, otherwise you die. Doesn't mean that it doesn't still have a massive impact on the game. Just the fact that it exists puts Myungsik on a timer. Yeah, but he was getting up his own third so I guess he pressures to make sure Hero can't probe until they are on even footing.
I think that was his idea after not being able to kill the nexus. I don't agree with it though, not when you're down 2 upgrades without the forge even being done. There is no macroing out of it, you just die. He had one super tiny window to do damage and didn't commit to it.
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On August 27 2015 20:28 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 20:27 Heartland wrote:On August 27 2015 20:26 DarkLordOlli wrote:On August 27 2015 20:25 Heartland wrote:On August 27 2015 20:24 DarkLordOlli wrote: That's anticlimactic ;( I think with better positioning and MSC use, Myungsik could have gotten the nexus. He had to, he was completely all in. Not sure why he didn't commit to it. The nexus was empty of Probes anyway so it was 2 base vs 2 base, I think he was looking for an army wipe into win. Rather than risk losing a fight because he dove the nexus. That's what you do in PvP every time though. The third nexus stays empty until the opponent takes theirs, otherwise you die. Doesn't mean that it doesn't still have a massive impact on the game. Just the fact that it exists puts Myungsik on a timer. Yeah, but he was getting up his own third so I guess he pressures to make sure Hero can't probe until they are on even footing. I think that was his idea after not being able to kill the nexus. I don't agree with it though, not when you're down 2 upgrades without the forge even being done.
Yeah, but upgrades are less important than a good fight and it's really hard to fight with a colossus deficit when it's close your base.
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your Country52797 Posts
On August 27 2015 20:25 The_Templar wrote:Map: Echo herO spawns in the bottom right MyuNgSiK spawns in the top left 2:00 Gate + 2 gas for MyuNgSiK, 1 gas for herO. Cybernetics core is faster for MyuNgSiK.
3:00 Both players getting a stalker, herO getting a mothership core. Stargate for MyuNgSiK.
4:00 Twilight council begins for herO. MyuNgSiK getting a robotics facility. Two more gateways for herO, 1 for MyuNgSiK.
5:00 Blink starts for herO. MyuNgSiK getting a phoenix, followed by an immortal. herO expands.
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Austria24417 Posts
On August 27 2015 20:29 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 20:28 DarkLordOlli wrote:On August 27 2015 20:27 Heartland wrote:On August 27 2015 20:26 DarkLordOlli wrote:On August 27 2015 20:25 Heartland wrote:On August 27 2015 20:24 DarkLordOlli wrote: That's anticlimactic ;( I think with better positioning and MSC use, Myungsik could have gotten the nexus. He had to, he was completely all in. Not sure why he didn't commit to it. The nexus was empty of Probes anyway so it was 2 base vs 2 base, I think he was looking for an army wipe into win. Rather than risk losing a fight because he dove the nexus. That's what you do in PvP every time though. The third nexus stays empty until the opponent takes theirs, otherwise you die. Doesn't mean that it doesn't still have a massive impact on the game. Just the fact that it exists puts Myungsik on a timer. Yeah, but he was getting up his own third so I guess he pressures to make sure Hero can't probe until they are on even footing. I think that was his idea after not being able to kill the nexus. I don't agree with it though, not when you're down 2 upgrades without the forge even being done. Yeah, but upgrades are less important than a good fight and it's really hard to fight with a colossus deficit when it's close your base.
I don't really agree with that. With 2 attack upgrades ahead and a similar (in herO's case even ahead) colossus count, you can take an awful fight and will still win pretty much every time.
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On August 27 2015 20:32 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 20:29 Heartland wrote:On August 27 2015 20:28 DarkLordOlli wrote:On August 27 2015 20:27 Heartland wrote:On August 27 2015 20:26 DarkLordOlli wrote:On August 27 2015 20:25 Heartland wrote:On August 27 2015 20:24 DarkLordOlli wrote: That's anticlimactic ;( I think with better positioning and MSC use, Myungsik could have gotten the nexus. He had to, he was completely all in. Not sure why he didn't commit to it. The nexus was empty of Probes anyway so it was 2 base vs 2 base, I think he was looking for an army wipe into win. Rather than risk losing a fight because he dove the nexus. That's what you do in PvP every time though. The third nexus stays empty until the opponent takes theirs, otherwise you die. Doesn't mean that it doesn't still have a massive impact on the game. Just the fact that it exists puts Myungsik on a timer. Yeah, but he was getting up his own third so I guess he pressures to make sure Hero can't probe until they are on even footing. I think that was his idea after not being able to kill the nexus. I don't agree with it though, not when you're down 2 upgrades without the forge even being done. Yeah, but upgrades are less important than a good fight and it's really hard to fight with a colossus deficit when it's close your base. I don't really agree with that. With 2 attack upgrades ahead and a similar (in herO's case even ahead) colossus count, you can take an awful fight and will still win pretty much every time.
you need to listen to Elfi more
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your Country52797 Posts
On August 27 2015 20:29 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 20:25 The_Templar wrote:Map: Echo herO spawns in the bottom right MyuNgSiK spawns in the top left 2:00 Gate + 2 gas for MyuNgSiK, 1 gas for herO. Cybernetics core is faster for MyuNgSiK. 3:00 Both players getting a stalker, herO getting a mothership core. Stargate for MyuNgSiK. 4:00 Twilight council begins for herO. MyuNgSiK getting a robotics facility. Two more gateways for herO, 1 for MyuNgSiK. 5:00 Blink starts for herO. MyuNgSiK getting a phoenix, followed by an immortal. herO expands. 6:00 MyuNgSiK has halted his phoenix production at just two. MyuNgSiK gets an expansion.
7:00 herO 40 vs MyuNgSiK 43 MyuNgSiK getting his MSC now, and patrolling the map with his two phoenixes. Both players getting an observer. MyuNgSiK's first observer is moving across the map and joining the two phoenixes briefly.
8:00 herO 58 vs MyuNgSiK 55 +1 attack for MyuNgSiK. Two more assimilators for both players. Both players still getting probes. Robotics bay for MyuNgSiK.
9:00 herO 68 vs MyuNgSiK 63 Robotics bay starts a bit later for herO. herO checks for a third, and there is none. MyuNgSiK got two probe kills with his phoenixes. Twilight council for MyuNgSiK.
10:00 herO 75 vs MyuNgSiK 79 MyuNgSiK dives right into colossus production. herO takes his third and gets his own colossus. MyuNgSiK taking a third as well.
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Austria24417 Posts
Second forge from herO is really unusual, but I like it
BUT those should be shield upgrades imo. Archons are your lategame tanking units, they don't profit from armor.
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Geeez. Just bring on the lazor show already.
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your Country52797 Posts
On August 27 2015 20:33 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 20:29 The_Templar wrote:On August 27 2015 20:25 The_Templar wrote:Map: Echo herO spawns in the bottom right MyuNgSiK spawns in the top left 2:00 Gate + 2 gas for MyuNgSiK, 1 gas for herO. Cybernetics core is faster for MyuNgSiK. 3:00 Both players getting a stalker, herO getting a mothership core. Stargate for MyuNgSiK. 4:00 Twilight council begins for herO. MyuNgSiK getting a robotics facility. Two more gateways for herO, 1 for MyuNgSiK. 5:00 Blink starts for herO. MyuNgSiK getting a phoenix, followed by an immortal. herO expands. 6:00 MyuNgSiK has halted his phoenix production at just two. MyuNgSiK gets an expansion. 7:00 herO 40 vs MyuNgSiK 43 MyuNgSiK getting his MSC now, and patrolling the map with his two phoenixes. Both players getting an observer. MyuNgSiK's first observer is moving across the map and joining the two phoenixes briefly. 8:00 herO 58 vs MyuNgSiK 55 +1 attack for MyuNgSiK. Two more assimilators for both players. Both players still getting probes. Robotics bay for MyuNgSiK. 9:00 herO 68 vs MyuNgSiK 63 Robotics bay starts a bit later for herO. herO checks for a third, and there is none. MyuNgSiK got two probe kills with his phoenixes. Twilight council for MyuNgSiK. 10:00 herO 75 vs MyuNgSiK 79 MyuNgSiK dives right into colossus production. herO takes his third and gets his own colossus. MyuNgSiK taking a third as well. 11:00 herO 89 vs MyuNgSiK 89 +2 attack and charge for MyuNgSiK. MyuNgSiK is going a little bit aggressively towards herO's base, and trades a stalker for a stalker before recalling. +2 attack starts for herO now.
13:00 herO 110 vs MyuNgSiK 99 herO finally kills MyuNgSiK's two phoenixes. Both players are adding on a lot of gateways. Templar archives for MyuNgSiK.
14:00 herO 121 vs MyuNgSiK 119 Robotics facility being added on for both players. herO has 9 stalkers and is trying to do something useful with them, but keeps running into MyuNgSiK's colossi. +3 starts for MyuNgsiK. Second forge for herO.
15:00 herO 144 vs MyuNgSiK 129 herO is finishing charge. MyuNgSiK getting archons. Both players are on three bases still. herO is placing pylons near MyuNgSiK's natural. MyuNgSiK is leading 7-4 in colossi. MyuNgSiK clears out the pylons of herO. herO is getting an archon.
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