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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
August 27 2015 11:24 GMT
#361
On August 27 2015 20:24 The_Templar wrote:
Poll: Recommend herO vs MyuNgSiK Game 2?

★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (7)
 
70%

★- Do not see this game no matter what (2)
 
20%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (1)
 
10%

★★★ - Good game (0)
 
0%

★★★★★ - One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

10 total votes

Your vote: Recommend herO vs MyuNgSiK Game 2?

(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★ - Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games this season


Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
August 27 2015 11:24 GMT
#362
Well MyunNgSiK had a good run.
why even
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
August 27 2015 11:24 GMT
#363
That's anticlimactic ;(
I think with better positioning and MSC use, Myungsik could have gotten the nexus. He had to, he was completely all in. Not sure why he didn't commit to it.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
August 27 2015 11:24 GMT
#364
On August 27 2015 20:23 Ej_ wrote:
just a reminder that this is Myungsik's 2nd ro8 in a Korean starleague

how exactly did he beat fucking dream
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 27 2015 11:25 GMT
#365
On August 27 2015 20:24 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 20:23 Ej_ wrote:
just a reminder that this is Myungsik's 2nd ro8 in a Korean starleague

how exactly did he beat fucking dream

with some help from Genius
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
August 27 2015 11:25 GMT
#366
S2SL Quarterfinals

(P)herO vs (P)MyuNgSiK
2-0

Map: Echo

herO spawns in the bottom right
MyuNgSiK spawns in the top left
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TL+ Member
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24602 Posts
August 27 2015 11:25 GMT
#367
On August 27 2015 20:24 DarkLordOlli wrote:
That's anticlimactic ;(
I think with better positioning and MSC use, Myungsik could have gotten the nexus. He had to, he was completely all in. Not sure why he didn't commit to it.


The nexus was empty of Probes anyway so it was 2 base vs 2 base, I think he was looking for an army wipe into win. Rather than risk losing a fight because he dove the nexus.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
August 27 2015 11:26 GMT
#368
On August 27 2015 20:25 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 20:24 DarkLordOlli wrote:
That's anticlimactic ;(
I think with better positioning and MSC use, Myungsik could have gotten the nexus. He had to, he was completely all in. Not sure why he didn't commit to it.


The nexus was empty of Probes anyway so it was 2 base vs 2 base, I think he was looking for an army wipe into win. Rather than risk losing a fight because he dove the nexus.


That's what you do in PvP every time though. The third nexus stays empty until the opponent takes theirs, otherwise you die. Doesn't mean that it doesn't still have a massive impact on the game. Just the fact that it exists puts Myungsik on a timer.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5613 Posts
August 27 2015 11:27 GMT
#369
Maka Pylon :D <3
don't wall off against random
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24602 Posts
August 27 2015 11:27 GMT
#370
On August 27 2015 20:26 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 20:25 Heartland wrote:
On August 27 2015 20:24 DarkLordOlli wrote:
That's anticlimactic ;(
I think with better positioning and MSC use, Myungsik could have gotten the nexus. He had to, he was completely all in. Not sure why he didn't commit to it.


The nexus was empty of Probes anyway so it was 2 base vs 2 base, I think he was looking for an army wipe into win. Rather than risk losing a fight because he dove the nexus.


That's what you do in PvP every time though. The third nexus stays empty until the opponent takes theirs, otherwise you die. Doesn't mean that it doesn't still have a massive impact on the game. Just the fact that it exists puts Myungsik on a timer.


Yeah, but he was getting up his own third so I guess he pressures to make sure Hero can't probe until they are on even footing.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-27 11:28:55
August 27 2015 11:28 GMT
#371
On August 27 2015 20:27 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 20:26 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On August 27 2015 20:25 Heartland wrote:
On August 27 2015 20:24 DarkLordOlli wrote:
That's anticlimactic ;(
I think with better positioning and MSC use, Myungsik could have gotten the nexus. He had to, he was completely all in. Not sure why he didn't commit to it.


The nexus was empty of Probes anyway so it was 2 base vs 2 base, I think he was looking for an army wipe into win. Rather than risk losing a fight because he dove the nexus.


That's what you do in PvP every time though. The third nexus stays empty until the opponent takes theirs, otherwise you die. Doesn't mean that it doesn't still have a massive impact on the game. Just the fact that it exists puts Myungsik on a timer.


Yeah, but he was getting up his own third so I guess he pressures to make sure Hero can't probe until they are on even footing.


I think that was his idea after not being able to kill the nexus. I don't agree with it though, not when you're down 2 upgrades without the forge even being done. There is no macroing out of it, you just die. He had one super tiny window to do damage and didn't commit to it.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24602 Posts
August 27 2015 11:29 GMT
#372
On August 27 2015 20:28 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 20:27 Heartland wrote:
On August 27 2015 20:26 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On August 27 2015 20:25 Heartland wrote:
On August 27 2015 20:24 DarkLordOlli wrote:
That's anticlimactic ;(
I think with better positioning and MSC use, Myungsik could have gotten the nexus. He had to, he was completely all in. Not sure why he didn't commit to it.


The nexus was empty of Probes anyway so it was 2 base vs 2 base, I think he was looking for an army wipe into win. Rather than risk losing a fight because he dove the nexus.


That's what you do in PvP every time though. The third nexus stays empty until the opponent takes theirs, otherwise you die. Doesn't mean that it doesn't still have a massive impact on the game. Just the fact that it exists puts Myungsik on a timer.


Yeah, but he was getting up his own third so I guess he pressures to make sure Hero can't probe until they are on even footing.


I think that was his idea after not being able to kill the nexus. I don't agree with it though, not when you're down 2 upgrades without the forge even being done.


Yeah, but upgrades are less important than a good fight and it's really hard to fight with a colossus deficit when it's close your base.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
August 27 2015 11:29 GMT
#373
On August 27 2015 20:25 The_Templar wrote:
S2SL Quarterfinals

(P)herO vs (P)MyuNgSiK
2-0

Map: Echo

herO spawns in the bottom right
MyuNgSiK spawns in the top left

2:00
Gate + 2 gas for MyuNgSiK, 1 gas for herO.
Cybernetics core is faster for MyuNgSiK.

3:00
Both players getting a stalker, herO getting a mothership core.
Stargate for MyuNgSiK.

4:00
Twilight council begins for herO.
MyuNgSiK getting a robotics facility.
Two more gateways for herO, 1 for MyuNgSiK.

5:00
Blink starts for herO.
MyuNgSiK getting a phoenix, followed by an immortal.
herO expands.
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
August 27 2015 11:32 GMT
#374
On August 27 2015 20:29 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 20:28 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On August 27 2015 20:27 Heartland wrote:
On August 27 2015 20:26 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On August 27 2015 20:25 Heartland wrote:
On August 27 2015 20:24 DarkLordOlli wrote:
That's anticlimactic ;(
I think with better positioning and MSC use, Myungsik could have gotten the nexus. He had to, he was completely all in. Not sure why he didn't commit to it.


The nexus was empty of Probes anyway so it was 2 base vs 2 base, I think he was looking for an army wipe into win. Rather than risk losing a fight because he dove the nexus.


That's what you do in PvP every time though. The third nexus stays empty until the opponent takes theirs, otherwise you die. Doesn't mean that it doesn't still have a massive impact on the game. Just the fact that it exists puts Myungsik on a timer.


Yeah, but he was getting up his own third so I guess he pressures to make sure Hero can't probe until they are on even footing.


I think that was his idea after not being able to kill the nexus. I don't agree with it though, not when you're down 2 upgrades without the forge even being done.


Yeah, but upgrades are less important than a good fight and it's really hard to fight with a colossus deficit when it's close your base.


I don't really agree with that. With 2 attack upgrades ahead and a similar (in herO's case even ahead) colossus count, you can take an awful fight and will still win pretty much every time.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24602 Posts
August 27 2015 11:32 GMT
#375
On August 27 2015 20:32 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 20:29 Heartland wrote:
On August 27 2015 20:28 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On August 27 2015 20:27 Heartland wrote:
On August 27 2015 20:26 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On August 27 2015 20:25 Heartland wrote:
On August 27 2015 20:24 DarkLordOlli wrote:
That's anticlimactic ;(
I think with better positioning and MSC use, Myungsik could have gotten the nexus. He had to, he was completely all in. Not sure why he didn't commit to it.


The nexus was empty of Probes anyway so it was 2 base vs 2 base, I think he was looking for an army wipe into win. Rather than risk losing a fight because he dove the nexus.


That's what you do in PvP every time though. The third nexus stays empty until the opponent takes theirs, otherwise you die. Doesn't mean that it doesn't still have a massive impact on the game. Just the fact that it exists puts Myungsik on a timer.


Yeah, but he was getting up his own third so I guess he pressures to make sure Hero can't probe until they are on even footing.


I think that was his idea after not being able to kill the nexus. I don't agree with it though, not when you're down 2 upgrades without the forge even being done.


Yeah, but upgrades are less important than a good fight and it's really hard to fight with a colossus deficit when it's close your base.


I don't really agree with that. With 2 attack upgrades ahead and a similar (in herO's case even ahead) colossus count, you can take an awful fight and will still win pretty much every time.


you need to listen to Elfi more
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
August 27 2015 11:33 GMT
#376
On August 27 2015 20:29 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 20:25 The_Templar wrote:
S2SL Quarterfinals

(P)herO vs (P)MyuNgSiK
2-0

Map: Echo

herO spawns in the bottom right
MyuNgSiK spawns in the top left

2:00
Gate + 2 gas for MyuNgSiK, 1 gas for herO.
Cybernetics core is faster for MyuNgSiK.

3:00
Both players getting a stalker, herO getting a mothership core.
Stargate for MyuNgSiK.

4:00
Twilight council begins for herO.
MyuNgSiK getting a robotics facility.
Two more gateways for herO, 1 for MyuNgSiK.

5:00
Blink starts for herO.
MyuNgSiK getting a phoenix, followed by an immortal.
herO expands.

6:00
MyuNgSiK has halted his phoenix production at just two.
MyuNgSiK gets an expansion.

7:00 (P)herO 40 vs (P)MyuNgSiK 43
MyuNgSiK getting his MSC now, and patrolling the map with his two phoenixes.
Both players getting an observer.
MyuNgSiK's first observer is moving across the map and joining the two phoenixes briefly.

8:00 (P)herO 58 vs (P)MyuNgSiK 55
+1 attack for MyuNgSiK.
Two more assimilators for both players.
Both players still getting probes.
Robotics bay for MyuNgSiK.

9:00 (P)herO 68 vs (P)MyuNgSiK 63
Robotics bay starts a bit later for herO.
herO checks for a third, and there is none.
MyuNgSiK got two probe kills with his phoenixes.
Twilight council for MyuNgSiK.

10:00 (P)herO 75 vs (P)MyuNgSiK 79
MyuNgSiK dives right into colossus production.
herO takes his third and gets his own colossus.
MyuNgSiK taking a third as well.
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-27 11:37:14
August 27 2015 11:35 GMT
#377
Second forge from herO is really unusual, but I like it

BUT those should be shield upgrades imo. Archons are your lategame tanking units, they don't profit from armor.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
August 27 2015 11:36 GMT
#378
Geeez. Just bring on the lazor show already.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
August 27 2015 11:37 GMT
#379
On August 27 2015 20:33 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 20:29 The_Templar wrote:
On August 27 2015 20:25 The_Templar wrote:
S2SL Quarterfinals

(P)herO vs (P)MyuNgSiK
2-0

Map: Echo

herO spawns in the bottom right
MyuNgSiK spawns in the top left

2:00
Gate + 2 gas for MyuNgSiK, 1 gas for herO.
Cybernetics core is faster for MyuNgSiK.

3:00
Both players getting a stalker, herO getting a mothership core.
Stargate for MyuNgSiK.

4:00
Twilight council begins for herO.
MyuNgSiK getting a robotics facility.
Two more gateways for herO, 1 for MyuNgSiK.

5:00
Blink starts for herO.
MyuNgSiK getting a phoenix, followed by an immortal.
herO expands.

6:00
MyuNgSiK has halted his phoenix production at just two.
MyuNgSiK gets an expansion.

7:00 (P)herO 40 vs (P)MyuNgSiK 43
MyuNgSiK getting his MSC now, and patrolling the map with his two phoenixes.
Both players getting an observer.
MyuNgSiK's first observer is moving across the map and joining the two phoenixes briefly.

8:00 (P)herO 58 vs (P)MyuNgSiK 55
+1 attack for MyuNgSiK.
Two more assimilators for both players.
Both players still getting probes.
Robotics bay for MyuNgSiK.

9:00 (P)herO 68 vs (P)MyuNgSiK 63
Robotics bay starts a bit later for herO.
herO checks for a third, and there is none.
MyuNgSiK got two probe kills with his phoenixes.
Twilight council for MyuNgSiK.

10:00 (P)herO 75 vs (P)MyuNgSiK 79
MyuNgSiK dives right into colossus production.
herO takes his third and gets his own colossus.
MyuNgSiK taking a third as well.

11:00 (P)herO 89 vs (P)MyuNgSiK 89
+2 attack and charge for MyuNgSiK.
MyuNgSiK is going a little bit aggressively towards herO's base, and trades a stalker for a stalker before recalling.
+2 attack starts for herO now.

13:00 (P)herO 110 vs (P)MyuNgSiK 99
herO finally kills MyuNgSiK's two phoenixes.
Both players are adding on a lot of gateways.
Templar archives for MyuNgSiK.

14:00 (P)herO 121 vs (P)MyuNgSiK 119
Robotics facility being added on for both players.
herO has 9 stalkers and is trying to do something useful with them, but keeps running into MyuNgSiK's colossi.
+3 starts for MyuNgsiK.
Second forge for herO.

15:00 (P)herO 144 vs (P)MyuNgSiK 129
herO is finishing charge.
MyuNgSiK getting archons.
Both players are on three bases still.
herO is placing pylons near MyuNgSiK's natural.
MyuNgSiK is leading 7-4 in colossi.
MyuNgSiK clears out the pylons of herO.
herO is getting an archon.
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 27 2015 11:38 GMT
#380
exciting match
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