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On July 14 2015 22:28 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2015 22:25 OtherWorld wrote:On July 14 2015 22:21 The_Red_Viper wrote:On July 14 2015 22:19 Elentos wrote:On July 14 2015 22:18 The_Red_Viper wrote:On July 14 2015 22:17 Elentos wrote:On July 14 2015 22:15 Inflicted wrote:
holy shit soO is a god Seriously? TY was doing something else at the time, he stimmed his units and ran forward into banes, 0 splits. If that hadn't happened soO would be fucked. That's what happens if you play terran, a fight without any micro = dead Yeah but TY not microing doesn't make soO a god. Nah i agree with you, i am just saying that terran absolutely has to micro every engagement, zerg is much more a move I am just angry :D I clearly remember the last time I a-moved into a biomine Terran with ling/bane/muta. I think less than 10 marines died, while my army supply went from 120 to ~10. ah cmon, i am not saying that microing in these situations isn't important for zerg, but terran HAS TO micro every single time against banelings, if there are like 4 mines zegr couldn't care less (unless the terran gets the random godlike mine hit) You also could look at it the other way though, engagements are mostly decided by how well the terran splits his stuff (if we assume similar macro)
4 mines can kill a maxed army if it's bunched but it takes very little micro to avoid that.
I more or less agree with you.
There is far more to a zvt engage than how well a terran can split however.
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That was a god awful build.
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soO and Inno, the day couldn't be better :D
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SoO and Innovation, fuck yeah!
Two amazing players.
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United Kingdom31935 Posts
Some esport org hire me and send me to gamescom k thx
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United States1718 Posts
This is one of those days where it feels like everyone's being over-the-top whiny about balance and it's just frustrating to watch.
Really glad soO made it through. Hope he wrecks gamecom. :D
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On July 14 2015 22:33 GumBa wrote:
Some esport org hire me and send me to gamescom k thx
Just assault someone with a pass and sneak in lol
French fucks always doing things so passively
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man, baby looked lost against soO
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Another day where all those KT players waste their potential. Why am I not surprised?
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On July 14 2015 22:33 GumBa wrote:
Some esport org hire me and send me to gamescom k thx
I should make a photo with Inno at gamescom with him holding a sign saying "Gumba suxs"
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On July 14 2015 22:35 BlackCompany wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2015 22:33 GumBa wrote:
Some esport org hire me and send me to gamescom k thx I should make a photo with Inno at gamescom with him holding a sign saying "Gumba suxs"
"I luv French Gumba more" is better
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On July 14 2015 22:31 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2015 22:28 The_Red_Viper wrote:On July 14 2015 22:25 OtherWorld wrote:On July 14 2015 22:21 The_Red_Viper wrote:On July 14 2015 22:19 Elentos wrote:On July 14 2015 22:18 The_Red_Viper wrote:On July 14 2015 22:17 Elentos wrote:On July 14 2015 22:15 Inflicted wrote:
holy shit soO is a god Seriously? TY was doing something else at the time, he stimmed his units and ran forward into banes, 0 splits. If that hadn't happened soO would be fucked. That's what happens if you play terran, a fight without any micro = dead Yeah but TY not microing doesn't make soO a god. Nah i agree with you, i am just saying that terran absolutely has to micro every engagement, zerg is much more a move I am just angry :D I clearly remember the last time I a-moved into a biomine Terran with ling/bane/muta. I think less than 10 marines died, while my army supply went from 120 to ~10. ah cmon, i am not saying that microing in these situations isn't important for zerg, but terran HAS TO micro every single time against banelings, if there are like 4 mines zegr couldn't care less (unless the terran gets the random godlike mine hit) You also could look at it the other way though, engagements are mostly decided by how well the terran splits his stuff (if we assume similar macro) 4 mines can kill a maxed army if it's bunched but it takes very little micro to avoid that. I more or less agree with you. There is far more to a zvt engage than how well a terran can split however.
IMHO the hard part of ZvT is macro. You need to keep injecting during your defense of the parade push or you just gonna die. As long as your injects are top notch (like soO's) you can take fights a bit recklessly
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On July 14 2015 22:37 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2015 22:31 HellHound wrote:On July 14 2015 22:28 The_Red_Viper wrote:On July 14 2015 22:25 OtherWorld wrote:On July 14 2015 22:21 The_Red_Viper wrote:On July 14 2015 22:19 Elentos wrote:On July 14 2015 22:18 The_Red_Viper wrote:On July 14 2015 22:17 Elentos wrote:On July 14 2015 22:15 Inflicted wrote:
holy shit soO is a god Seriously? TY was doing something else at the time, he stimmed his units and ran forward into banes, 0 splits. If that hadn't happened soO would be fucked. That's what happens if you play terran, a fight without any micro = dead Yeah but TY not microing doesn't make soO a god. Nah i agree with you, i am just saying that terran absolutely has to micro every engagement, zerg is much more a move I am just angry :D I clearly remember the last time I a-moved into a biomine Terran with ling/bane/muta. I think less than 10 marines died, while my army supply went from 120 to ~10. ah cmon, i am not saying that microing in these situations isn't important for zerg, but terran HAS TO micro every single time against banelings, if there are like 4 mines zegr couldn't care less (unless the terran gets the random godlike mine hit) You also could look at it the other way though, engagements are mostly decided by how well the terran splits his stuff (if we assume similar macro) 4 mines can kill a maxed army if it's bunched but it takes very little micro to avoid that. I more or less agree with you. There is far more to a zvt engage than how well a terran can split however. IMHO the hard part of ZvT is macro. You need to keep injecting during your defense of the parade push or you just gonna die. As long as your injects are top notch (like soO's) you can take fights a bit recklessly
True it's not a good idea to focus on micro too much.
But it only takes a few sec to avoid a big mine hit.
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On July 14 2015 22:31 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2015 22:28 The_Red_Viper wrote:On July 14 2015 22:25 OtherWorld wrote:On July 14 2015 22:21 The_Red_Viper wrote:On July 14 2015 22:19 Elentos wrote:On July 14 2015 22:18 The_Red_Viper wrote:On July 14 2015 22:17 Elentos wrote:On July 14 2015 22:15 Inflicted wrote:
holy shit soO is a god Seriously? TY was doing something else at the time, he stimmed his units and ran forward into banes, 0 splits. If that hadn't happened soO would be fucked. That's what happens if you play terran, a fight without any micro = dead Yeah but TY not microing doesn't make soO a god. Nah i agree with you, i am just saying that terran absolutely has to micro every engagement, zerg is much more a move I am just angry :D I clearly remember the last time I a-moved into a biomine Terran with ling/bane/muta. I think less than 10 marines died, while my army supply went from 120 to ~10. ah cmon, i am not saying that microing in these situations isn't important for zerg, but terran HAS TO micro every single time against banelings, if there are like 4 mines zegr couldn't care less (unless the terran gets the random godlike mine hit) You also could look at it the other way though, engagements are mostly decided by how well the terran splits his stuff (if we assume similar macro) 4 mines can kill a maxed army if it's bunched but it takes very little micro to avoid that. I more or less agree with you. There is far more to a zvt engage than how well a terran can split however.
Yeah sure, it's just the most obvious example i think.
I feel like most Zerg engagements aren't really decided by godlike micro, it's more about having the macro to have these 40 banelings so terran simply cannot be cost efficient there.
I liked the state where mutas were used to snipe mines etc, but that's not really happenign anymore either i think, if anythign mutas are used in big muta balls to snipe bases.
Maybe i am just too cinical now though, could be the case, i just feel the passion leaving my body tbh
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On July 14 2015 22:39 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2015 22:31 HellHound wrote:On July 14 2015 22:28 The_Red_Viper wrote:On July 14 2015 22:25 OtherWorld wrote:On July 14 2015 22:21 The_Red_Viper wrote:On July 14 2015 22:19 Elentos wrote:On July 14 2015 22:18 The_Red_Viper wrote:On July 14 2015 22:17 Elentos wrote:On July 14 2015 22:15 Inflicted wrote:
holy shit soO is a god Seriously? TY was doing something else at the time, he stimmed his units and ran forward into banes, 0 splits. If that hadn't happened soO would be fucked. That's what happens if you play terran, a fight without any micro = dead Yeah but TY not microing doesn't make soO a god. Nah i agree with you, i am just saying that terran absolutely has to micro every engagement, zerg is much more a move I am just angry :D I clearly remember the last time I a-moved into a biomine Terran with ling/bane/muta. I think less than 10 marines died, while my army supply went from 120 to ~10. ah cmon, i am not saying that microing in these situations isn't important for zerg, but terran HAS TO micro every single time against banelings, if there are like 4 mines zegr couldn't care less (unless the terran gets the random godlike mine hit) You also could look at it the other way though, engagements are mostly decided by how well the terran splits his stuff (if we assume similar macro) 4 mines can kill a maxed army if it's bunched but it takes very little micro to avoid that. I more or less agree with you. There is far more to a zvt engage than how well a terran can split however. Yeah sure, it's just the most obvious example i think. I feel like most Zerg engagements aren't really decided by godlike micro, it's more about having the macro to have these 40 banelings so terran simply cannot be cost efficient there. I liked the state where mutas were used to snipe mines etc, but that's not really happenign anymore either i think, if anythign mutas are used in big muta balls to snipe bases. Maybe i am just too cinical now though, could be the case, i just feel the passion leaving my body tbh
That's called getting older :D
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On July 14 2015 22:43 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2015 22:39 The_Red_Viper wrote:On July 14 2015 22:31 HellHound wrote:On July 14 2015 22:28 The_Red_Viper wrote:On July 14 2015 22:25 OtherWorld wrote:On July 14 2015 22:21 The_Red_Viper wrote:On July 14 2015 22:19 Elentos wrote:On July 14 2015 22:18 The_Red_Viper wrote:On July 14 2015 22:17 Elentos wrote:On July 14 2015 22:15 Inflicted wrote:
holy shit soO is a god Seriously? TY was doing something else at the time, he stimmed his units and ran forward into banes, 0 splits. If that hadn't happened soO would be fucked. That's what happens if you play terran, a fight without any micro = dead Yeah but TY not microing doesn't make soO a god. Nah i agree with you, i am just saying that terran absolutely has to micro every engagement, zerg is much more a move I am just angry :D I clearly remember the last time I a-moved into a biomine Terran with ling/bane/muta. I think less than 10 marines died, while my army supply went from 120 to ~10. ah cmon, i am not saying that microing in these situations isn't important for zerg, but terran HAS TO micro every single time against banelings, if there are like 4 mines zegr couldn't care less (unless the terran gets the random godlike mine hit) You also could look at it the other way though, engagements are mostly decided by how well the terran splits his stuff (if we assume similar macro) 4 mines can kill a maxed army if it's bunched but it takes very little micro to avoid that. I more or less agree with you. There is far more to a zvt engage than how well a terran can split however. Yeah sure, it's just the most obvious example i think. I feel like most Zerg engagements aren't really decided by godlike micro, it's more about having the macro to have these 40 banelings so terran simply cannot be cost efficient there. I liked the state where mutas were used to snipe mines etc, but that's not really happenign anymore either i think, if anythign mutas are used in big muta balls to snipe bases. Maybe i am just too cinical now though, could be the case, i just feel the passion leaving my body tbh That's called getting older :D
Huh i don't know, i am still excited about other esports out there 
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Russian Federation1613 Posts
Wow,  soO and  INno is on fire lately...
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Are there VODs for this qualifier?
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