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MiniFotToss
China2430 Posts
On June 30 2015 19:42 MarianoSC2 wrote: TvT is Marus best matchup by far. He almost always 2:0 every Terran he goes head to head with. Absolute GOD. Oh, i thought were gonna say Maru is a GOD for Terran | ||
Soularion
Canada2764 Posts
On June 30 2015 19:43 [PkF] Wire wrote: I don't even think you particularly need to harass. Have cannons and units in each base, play hugely defensive while relying on 5-6 colossi to hold any frontal push. DTs can be a great tool, especially if you have to basetrade. Yeah, I don't think it's necessary. I just think Maru in particular has shown a good weakness to harass in the past - he's routinely lost mineral lines to baneling runbys, for example, so I think some light DT play could prove to be very, very effective at hitting him in a weak point. Not required, but effective. | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24238 Posts
Overall yeah, in PvT I think it's fair. Zest PvT has always been his weakness, he got around it sometimes but it got exposed numerous times in his career (vs Cure, vs Flash in IEM, not to mention TANTANG...). | ||
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RaFox17
Finland4581 Posts
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bo1b
Australia12814 Posts
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On June 30 2015 19:41 Soularion wrote: I think in general the correct answer to maru's style is just to play defensively with the fairly standard unit composition, and continue to weather the storm while getting zealot (or DT) harass on the back of it. Or, just hit a huge timing. There is no timing, terran just basetrades and wins. You have to survive and turtle like crazy until you have storm/colossus and are secured at every base. Then you attack. If at all possible, counter harass works wonders (but it's barely ever possible) | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
Life can hope Maru wants to save 100 minerals again | ||
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Snorkels
United States1015 Posts
On June 30 2015 19:37 bo1b wrote: Jesus I hope jinair wins and they turn that prize money into a better uniform the fake-tie is cheeky, I've always liked it a bit | ||
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
On June 30 2015 19:43 [PkF] Wire wrote: I don't even think you particularly need to harass. Have cannons and units in each base, play hugely defensive while relying on 5-6 colossi to hold any frontal push. DTs can be a great tool, especially if you have to basetrade. Please stop theorycrafting. That doesn't work. You need mobility (phoenixes or blink stalkers), not money wasted on cannons and small pieces of protoss army spread out to die. | ||
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dazed25
3566 Posts
On June 30 2015 19:44 [PkF] Wire wrote: Overall yeah, in PvT I think it's fair. Zest PvT has always been his weakness, he got around it sometimes but it got exposed numerous times in his career (vs Cure, vs Flash in IEM...). got 3-0ed by taeja as well. it's why i think that if he somehow fixes that matchup he would be unstoppable. he's a god in PvP (barring his creator kryptonite) and PvZ. | ||
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
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Soularion
Canada2764 Posts
On June 30 2015 19:45 DarkLordOlli wrote: There is no timing, terran just basetrades and wins. You have to survive and turtle like crazy until you have storm/colossus and are secured at every base. Then you attack. If at all possible, counter harass works wonders (but it's barely ever possible) Can you link me a game where a terran successfully basetraded a top-tier protoss? I mean, the one game where a timing was hit that I watched - herO vs Maru - was incredibly close and only ended up a loss because Maru played beyond godlike. Really, I think all you need is either a strong upgrade timing (herO ended up fighting with 2/2 vs 2/2- if you can get 2/2 while terran is at 1/1 for a significant amount of time, this definitely works) or a storm/colo timing or harass damage. There's options. | ||
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
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Ej_
47656 Posts
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sharkie
Austria18589 Posts
On June 30 2015 19:45 dazed25 wrote: got 3-0ed by taeja as well. it's why i think that if he somehow fixes that matchup he would be unstoppable. he's a god in PvP (barring his creator kryptonite) and PvZ. that's like asking of herO to fix his PvP lol | ||
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MarianoSC2
Slovakia1855 Posts
On June 30 2015 19:41 Soularion wrote: To be fair, it's pretty hard to kill Maru with deathball pre-storm. Watch herO vs Maru (SSL) g1 for an example of this. Yeah thats why I said you need perfect defence to counter drop and Marauder play. Force him to late game, force him to Vikings and kill him with Storm deathball. = Rain style Or extreme cheese allins when hes unprepared = Parting. He just crushes everyone else | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On June 30 2015 19:42 MiniFotToss wrote: play one game like that and see how hard it is to defend EVERYWHERE in your base. Are you gonna put fking cannons everywhere in your base whie trying to replace charelots, cannons, getting archons AND colossus, on how many bases??????? Cannons don't work man. You cannot warp over cannons but terran can unload over cannons or speed over them. Cannons are just detectors for mines, since observers like to die to splash from sacrificial probe  Edit> Also observers cost robo time and gas. Robo is so damn expensive >< On June 30 2015 19:43 Pandemona wrote: Wait...MARU FKN TAYLOR SWIFT xD What's wrong with Taylor Swift? I honestly don't know who is she, so... (or soO? :D) | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
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bo1b
Australia12814 Posts
On June 30 2015 19:45 Snorkels wrote: the fake-tie is cheeky, I've always liked it a bit Anyone who proudly mains protoss is expected to have shocking fashion taste | ||
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BlackCompany
Germany8388 Posts
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