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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
June 30 2015 10:49 GMT
#381
):
How did Zest lose?
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bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
June 30 2015 10:49 GMT
#382
On June 30 2015 19:48 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2015 19:42 MiniFotToss wrote:
On June 30 2015 19:38 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On June 30 2015 19:36 Inflicted wrote:
On June 30 2015 19:36 graNite wrote:
I dont get why they are so Stalker heavy against someone how has only marauders every game...


If you don't have stalkers, you'd probably get dropped all over Collosi

It's still a mistake IMO. Against that style (no vikings) if you get 0 stalkers, chargelots and cannons in each base and can make some archons, you'll win. It's not easy, but Zest definitely wildly overmade stalkers.

play one game like that and see how hard it is to defend EVERYWHERE in your base.
Are you gonna put fking cannons everywhere in your base whie trying to replace charelots, cannons, getting archons AND colossus, on how many bases???????

Cannons don't work man. You cannot warp over cannons but terran can unload over cannons or speed over them. Cannons are just detectors for mines, since observers like to die to splash from sacrificial probe

Show nested quote +
On June 30 2015 19:43 Pandemona wrote:
Wait...MARU FKN TAYLOR SWIFT xD

What's wrong with Taylor Swift? I honestly don't know who is she, so... (or soO? :D)

I bet you know who Taylor Swift is
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
June 30 2015 10:49 GMT
#383
life scouts both wrong spots, maru goes blindly in correct direction, sad game
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 30 2015 10:49 GMT
#384
On June 30 2015 19:49 OtherWorld wrote:
):
How did Zest lose?

lost 11 probes to initial harass, then was being dropped in 3 bases at once for 6 minutes
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Soularion
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Canada2764 Posts
June 30 2015 10:49 GMT
#385
On June 30 2015 19:49 OtherWorld wrote:
):
How did Zest lose?

Standardly.
Maru got really good early damage due to miss control, spiraled from there.
Writermaru pls
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
June 30 2015 10:50 GMT
#386
On June 30 2015 19:49 OtherWorld wrote:
):
How did Zest lose?

badly. Got clubbed to death with standard vikingless dropheavy style.
Snorkels
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1015 Posts
June 30 2015 10:50 GMT
#387
Soularion's sig
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
June 30 2015 10:51 GMT
#388
Life showing how to do a really good bad roach bane all in
egrimm
Profile Joined September 2011
Poland1199 Posts
June 30 2015 10:51 GMT
#389
On June 30 2015 19:38 D-light wrote:
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On June 30 2015 19:34 egrimm wrote:
the "fuck it" push from Zest ...

aka the "elfi" push

Unfortunately Zest ain't no elfi when it comes to desperate pushes with probes.

hehe I mean every toss did that at least once in his lifetime
sOs TY PartinG
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
June 30 2015 10:51 GMT
#390
On June 30 2015 19:47 Soularion wrote:
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On June 30 2015 19:45 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On June 30 2015 19:41 Soularion wrote:
I think in general the correct answer to maru's style is just to play defensively with the fairly standard unit composition, and continue to weather the storm while getting zealot (or DT) harass on the back of it. Or, just hit a huge timing.


There is no timing, terran just basetrades and wins. You have to survive and turtle like crazy until you have storm/colossus and are secured at every base. Then you attack. If at all possible, counter harass works wonders (but it's barely ever possible)

Can you link me a game where a terran successfully basetraded a top-tier protoss? I mean, the one game where a timing was hit that I watched - herO vs Maru - was incredibly close and only ended up a loss because Maru played beyond godlike. Really, I think all you need is either a strong upgrade timing (herO ended up fighting with 2/2 vs 2/2- if you can get 2/2 while terran is at 1/1 for a significant amount of time, this definitely works) or a storm/colo timing or harass damage. There's options.


Nobody tries timings against the headbashing style because terran basetrades. There's no game I can remember because nobody does it. It's just the worst thing you could possibly do. The only time you can attack against it is if you've killed a significant chunk of the terran army OR have survived until storm/colossus and good upgrades + cannons and templar at all your bases. Then you start doing counterharass that pulls terran back, then you use that timing to attack when they're not outside your base to boost in the second you leave.
Basically what Rain did vs Maru on Vaani. That was textbook perfection.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
June 30 2015 10:52 GMT
#391
Ok thanks guys
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
June 30 2015 10:52 GMT
#392
On June 30 2015 19:49 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2015 19:48 deacon.frost wrote:
On June 30 2015 19:42 MiniFotToss wrote:
On June 30 2015 19:38 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On June 30 2015 19:36 Inflicted wrote:
On June 30 2015 19:36 graNite wrote:
I dont get why they are so Stalker heavy against someone how has only marauders every game...


If you don't have stalkers, you'd probably get dropped all over Collosi

It's still a mistake IMO. Against that style (no vikings) if you get 0 stalkers, chargelots and cannons in each base and can make some archons, you'll win. It's not easy, but Zest definitely wildly overmade stalkers.

play one game like that and see how hard it is to defend EVERYWHERE in your base.
Are you gonna put fking cannons everywhere in your base whie trying to replace charelots, cannons, getting archons AND colossus, on how many bases???????

Cannons don't work man. You cannot warp over cannons but terran can unload over cannons or speed over them. Cannons are just detectors for mines, since observers like to die to splash from sacrificial probe

On June 30 2015 19:43 Pandemona wrote:
Wait...MARU FKN TAYLOR SWIFT xD

What's wrong with Taylor Swift? I honestly don't know who is she, so... (or soO? :D)

I bet you know who Taylor Swift is

Maybe I heard her somewhere, but I usually listen to my mp3 lists and ignore radio and stuff, so...

I really don't know. Not trolling.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
June 30 2015 10:52 GMT
#393
Maru is lucky beyond anything this game
RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
June 30 2015 10:52 GMT
#394
Looks really bad for Life. This has been terrible.
Soularion
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Canada2764 Posts
June 30 2015 10:53 GMT
#395
wtf Maru held roach/bane this is unheard of
Writermaru pls
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
June 30 2015 10:54 GMT
#396
On June 30 2015 19:52 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2015 19:49 bo1b wrote:
On June 30 2015 19:48 deacon.frost wrote:
On June 30 2015 19:42 MiniFotToss wrote:
On June 30 2015 19:38 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On June 30 2015 19:36 Inflicted wrote:
On June 30 2015 19:36 graNite wrote:
I dont get why they are so Stalker heavy against someone how has only marauders every game...


If you don't have stalkers, you'd probably get dropped all over Collosi

It's still a mistake IMO. Against that style (no vikings) if you get 0 stalkers, chargelots and cannons in each base and can make some archons, you'll win. It's not easy, but Zest definitely wildly overmade stalkers.

play one game like that and see how hard it is to defend EVERYWHERE in your base.
Are you gonna put fking cannons everywhere in your base whie trying to replace charelots, cannons, getting archons AND colossus, on how many bases???????

Cannons don't work man. You cannot warp over cannons but terran can unload over cannons or speed over them. Cannons are just detectors for mines, since observers like to die to splash from sacrificial probe

On June 30 2015 19:43 Pandemona wrote:
Wait...MARU FKN TAYLOR SWIFT xD

What's wrong with Taylor Swift? I honestly don't know who is she, so... (or soO? :D)

I bet you know who Taylor Swift is

Maybe I heard her somewhere, but I usually listen to my mp3 lists and ignore radio and stuff, so...

I really don't know. Not trolling.

There's a 99.99% chance that you heard her somewhere I think
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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
June 30 2015 10:54 GMT
#397
Should be pretty easy from now on for Maru. I'd be quite lost if I were KT coach right now.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18629 Posts
June 30 2015 10:54 GMT
#398
On June 30 2015 19:53 Soularion wrote:
wtf Maru held roach/bane this is unheard of


A sign of how horrible Life's slump must be
Soularion
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Canada2764 Posts
June 30 2015 10:54 GMT
#399
my god that control, the targeting was siiick
Writermaru pls
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
June 30 2015 10:54 GMT
#400
life was dead after reaper vs 3 hatch
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