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On May 04 2015 18:34 Big J wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2015 18:32 Wildmoon wrote:
Blizzard was actually right when they thought zerg don't need SH to deal with mech. They got so much shit for it lol. Loses to a roach/hydra timing because he forgot to make units and sent his banshees across the map after seeing the army approaching him. That has little to do with balance, that's just bad play.
TBF Zerg has been winning a lot vs mech, even without SH. Lack of ravens seems to balance it out.
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On May 04 2015 18:32 Wildmoon wrote:
Blizzard was actually right when they thought zerg don't need SH to deal with mech. They got so much shit for it lol.
No one ever doubted that the Zerg can win if he has basically won the game early game and the Mech player just stayed in the game and tried to remax somehow.
The problems mainly occur if these early/mid game timings don't work/don't happen and the players go into the later stages on equal footing.
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On May 04 2015 18:34 Big J wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2015 18:32 Wildmoon wrote:
Blizzard was actually right when they thought zerg don't need SH to deal with mech. They got so much shit for it lol. Loses to a roach/hydra timing because he forgot to make units and sent his banshees across the map after seeing the army approaching him. That has little to do with balance, that's just bad play.
Right? Zerg could lose to mech because of bad plays too. As far as I have seen, mech is not so OP like some people complained earlier after the patch at all.
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On May 04 2015 18:35 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2015 18:34 Big J wrote:On May 04 2015 18:32 Wildmoon wrote:
Blizzard was actually right when they thought zerg don't need SH to deal with mech. They got so much shit for it lol. Loses to a roach/hydra timing because he forgot to make units and sent his banshees across the map after seeing the army approaching him. That has little to do with balance, that's just bad play. TBF Zerg has been winning a lot vs mech, even without SH. Lack of ravens seems to balance it out.
They have from what I have read.
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On May 04 2015 18:35 Swisslink wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2015 18:32 Wildmoon wrote:
Blizzard was actually right when they thought zerg don't need SH to deal with mech. They got so much shit for it lol. No one ever doubted that the Zerg can win if he has basically won the game early game and the Mech player just stayed in the game and tried to remax somehow. The problems mainly occur if these early/mid game timings don't work/don't happen and the players go into the later stages on equal footing.
It's supposed to be hard to fight off mech when it reachs its peak but I don't think it's OP at all.
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MorroW is being surprisingly reasonable
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last time terrans adapted to anything was bunker build time
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On May 04 2015 18:37 Wildmoon wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2015 18:35 Swisslink wrote:On May 04 2015 18:32 Wildmoon wrote:
Blizzard was actually right when they thought zerg don't need SH to deal with mech. They got so much shit for it lol. No one ever doubted that the Zerg can win if he has basically won the game early game and the Mech player just stayed in the game and tried to remax somehow. The problems mainly occur if these early/mid game timings don't work/don't happen and the players go into the later stages on equal footing. It's supposed to be hard to fight off mech when it reachs its peak but I don't think it's OP at all.
I don't know. But right now Zerg mainly go for some kind of midgame pushes. Therefore any balance discussion concerning the late game is quite hard.
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Bio, there you go Seeker!
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hearing that ooo in the background from korean caster was hilarious
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On May 04 2015 18:31 mCon.Hephaistas wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2015 18:28 TheDwf wrote:On May 04 2015 18:26 mCon.Hephaistas wrote:On May 04 2015 18:22 TheDwf wrote:On May 04 2015 18:17 Thrillz wrote:On May 04 2015 18:14 mCon.Hephaistas wrote:On May 04 2015 18:13 TheDwf wrote:On May 04 2015 18:10 Swisslink wrote:On May 04 2015 18:07 mCon.Hephaistas wrote:On May 04 2015 18:04 CakeSauc3 wrote:Man, this is so much more fun to watch than sh vs mech. TY Blizz  Would be even more fun if they split ground and air upgrades again! Yep. The transition to air is just too easy right now, imo. Yep, mech/air upgrades should be separate and Zerg shouldn't be able to dump 8k of resources in 35 seconds in air switches. uhh if you allow a zerg that much bank you should expect a tech switch, anyway by that time you should be able to have 3-3 air upgrades anyway, with split upgrades Then it's not necessary to split them anyways right? Don't bother, this kind of player is incapable to understand the issues arising from clashing a super-flexible infrastructure with a rigid one when you harvest 2.5k/800 per minute. They don't care about the game, as usual they're only interested in pulling the cover towards their side Assuming prick. But I guess it's better we don't argue anymore, because it doesn't lead anywhere indeed. I think you have the biggest terran bias in the world and you probably think the same about me for zerg. Nope, I simply understand the game far better than you will ever do yeayea I bet you do bro.
lol do you even know who TheDwf is? Unless you're playing in WCS, he understands the game better than you do.
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i like how bio is becoming the new surprise build in this matchup
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Dude what does dPix give Fantasy? He went from irrelevant to top player in a few months <.<
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On May 04 2015 18:41 Lunareste wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2015 18:31 mCon.Hephaistas wrote:On May 04 2015 18:28 TheDwf wrote:On May 04 2015 18:26 mCon.Hephaistas wrote:On May 04 2015 18:22 TheDwf wrote:On May 04 2015 18:17 Thrillz wrote:On May 04 2015 18:14 mCon.Hephaistas wrote:On May 04 2015 18:13 TheDwf wrote:On May 04 2015 18:10 Swisslink wrote:On May 04 2015 18:07 mCon.Hephaistas wrote:
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Would be even more fun if they split ground and air upgrades again! Yep. The transition to air is just too easy right now, imo. Yep, mech/air upgrades should be separate and Zerg shouldn't be able to dump 8k of resources in 35 seconds in air switches. uhh if you allow a zerg that much bank you should expect a tech switch, anyway by that time you should be able to have 3-3 air upgrades anyway, with split upgrades Then it's not necessary to split them anyways right? Don't bother, this kind of player is incapable to understand the issues arising from clashing a super-flexible infrastructure with a rigid one when you harvest 2.5k/800 per minute. They don't care about the game, as usual they're only interested in pulling the cover towards their side Assuming prick. But I guess it's better we don't argue anymore, because it doesn't lead anywhere indeed. I think you have the biggest terran bias in the world and you probably think the same about me for zerg. Nope, I simply understand the game far better than you will ever do yeayea I bet you do bro. lol do you even know who TheDwf is? Unless you're playing in WCS, he understands the game better than you do.
Who is he? ;D
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On May 04 2015 18:42 Wildmoon wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2015 18:41 Lunareste wrote:On May 04 2015 18:31 mCon.Hephaistas wrote:On May 04 2015 18:28 TheDwf wrote:On May 04 2015 18:26 mCon.Hephaistas wrote:On May 04 2015 18:22 TheDwf wrote:On May 04 2015 18:17 Thrillz wrote:On May 04 2015 18:14 mCon.Hephaistas wrote:On May 04 2015 18:13 TheDwf wrote:On May 04 2015 18:10 Swisslink wrote:
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Yep. The transition to air is just too easy right now, imo. Yep, mech/air upgrades should be separate and Zerg shouldn't be able to dump 8k of resources in 35 seconds in air switches. uhh if you allow a zerg that much bank you should expect a tech switch, anyway by that time you should be able to have 3-3 air upgrades anyway, with split upgrades Then it's not necessary to split them anyways right? Don't bother, this kind of player is incapable to understand the issues arising from clashing a super-flexible infrastructure with a rigid one when you harvest 2.5k/800 per minute. They don't care about the game, as usual they're only interested in pulling the cover towards their side Assuming prick. But I guess it's better we don't argue anymore, because it doesn't lead anywhere indeed. I think you have the biggest terran bias in the world and you probably think the same about me for zerg. Nope, I simply understand the game far better than you will ever do yeayea I bet you do bro. lol do you even know who TheDwf is? Unless you're playing in WCS, he understands the game better than you do. Who is he? ;D
The word on the grapevine is that he makes articles. Articles that actually got the balance changed two weeks after Blizz called the game fine.
Don't tell that Zerg guy, though.
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Corruptor style? Huh. I've never seen him do that when he was behind.
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EPT
