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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
April 24 2015 11:11 GMT
#321
On April 24 2015 20:10 Alucen-Will- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2015 20:09 Elentos wrote:
On April 24 2015 20:09 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On April 24 2015 20:07 Elentos wrote:
On April 24 2015 20:05 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On April 24 2015 20:04 Elentos wrote:
On April 24 2015 20:01 Alucen-Will- wrote:
As a fellow Terran, there is nothing more frustrating than losing to a blink all-in

Well "losing" to it is a given, if 3 rax bio production, bunkers, mines and stimmed bio can't stop it you have every right to be pissed.



To be fair, Sorry didn't have a bunker on the high ground.

It still seems very hard to hold for most mortals (me)

Maybe without the time warps you can make the hold, with the time warps even Maru and MarineKing can't do it consistently. And that's when scouted. Bunker on the highground just gets circumvented until there is a chance to just kill it because everything is out of position.


Flash has mentioned before that he feels the issue with Protoss is really the difficulty of scouting and the wide diversity of strategies they have..

Think, this game:


That game actually made me angry to watch

Don't remind me of that thing.


I think its a real issue regarding scouting, it's why terrans open reaper 95% percent of the time. There are simply so many ways you can die if you don't scout properly

Nah, the great thing about Protoss all-ins is that they work especially well when scouted.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
April 24 2015 11:11 GMT
#322
On April 24 2015 20:10 LoneYoShi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2015 20:06 GumBa wrote:
The only thing worse than blunk allins are when u call in a mule and at the same time the scv building your turret gets sniped by the dt it was supposed to stop


I can't stress how much I agree with that. There's litterally nothing you can do. Insta-quit, or wait and see your SCVs drop at a rate of one per second and then quit. And it happens freaking often too. One of the several reasons why I think TvP is the most frustrating matchup by a mile...


The other issue I have with the matchup is how linear the matchup for Terran is. There is literally 1 or 2 reasonable builds in the whole entire matchup
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-24 11:12:19
April 24 2015 11:11 GMT
#323
On April 24 2015 20:09 Alucen-Will- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2015 20:07 Elentos wrote:
On April 24 2015 20:05 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On April 24 2015 20:04 Elentos wrote:
On April 24 2015 20:01 Alucen-Will- wrote:
As a fellow Terran, there is nothing more frustrating than losing to a blink all-in

Well "losing" to it is a given, if 3 rax bio production, bunkers, mines and stimmed bio can't stop it you have every right to be pissed.



To be fair, Sorry didn't have a bunker on the high ground.

It still seems very hard to hold for most mortals (me)

Maybe without the time warps you can make the hold, with the time warps even Maru and MarineKing can't do it consistently. And that's when scouted. Bunker on the highground just gets circumvented until there is a chance to just kill it because everything is out of position.


Flash has mentioned before that he feels the issue with Protoss is really the difficulty of scouting and the wide diversity of strategies they have..

Think, this game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPkknBOtYSA

That game actually made me angry to watch


Made me sadder than when to he lost to Billowgod on Yeonsu.
fruity.
Profile Joined April 2012
England1711 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-24 11:12:33
April 24 2015 11:12 GMT
#324
On April 24 2015 20:09 Alucen-Will- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2015 20:07 Elentos wrote:
On April 24 2015 20:05 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On April 24 2015 20:04 Elentos wrote:
On April 24 2015 20:01 Alucen-Will- wrote:
As a fellow Terran, there is nothing more frustrating than losing to a blink all-in

Well "losing" to it is a given, if 3 rax bio production, bunkers, mines and stimmed bio can't stop it you have every right to be pissed.



To be fair, Sorry didn't have a bunker on the high ground.

It still seems very hard to hold for most mortals (me)

Maybe without the time warps you can make the hold, with the time warps even Maru and MarineKing can't do it consistently. And that's when scouted. Bunker on the highground just gets circumvented until there is a chance to just kill it because everything is out of position.


Flash has mentioned before that he feels the issue with Protoss is really the difficulty of scouting and the wide diversity of strategies they have..

Think, this game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPkknBOtYSA

That game actually made me angry to watch


Thats where Panic dropped behind Flash's inbase expansion, blocked the ramp. I was thinking of this yesterday, happened in proleague
Ex Zerg learning Terran. A bold move.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
April 24 2015 11:12 GMT
#325
On April 24 2015 20:11 Alucen-Will- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2015 20:10 LoneYoShi wrote:
On April 24 2015 20:06 GumBa wrote:
The only thing worse than blunk allins are when u call in a mule and at the same time the scv building your turret gets sniped by the dt it was supposed to stop


I can't stress how much I agree with that. There's litterally nothing you can do. Insta-quit, or wait and see your SCVs drop at a rate of one per second and then quit. And it happens freaking often too. One of the several reasons why I think TvP is the most frustrating matchup by a mile...


The other issue I have with the matchup is how linear the matchup for Terran is. There is literally 1 or 2 reasonable builds in the whole entire matchup

You have 3-rax opening or factory opening. One just straight up dies to blink (as seen with Gumiho), the other dies slowly and painfully.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
April 24 2015 11:13 GMT
#326
Iron Fortress hype woooo.
Roadog
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada1670 Posts
April 24 2015 11:14 GMT
#327
On April 24 2015 20:09 cSc.Dav1oN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2015 20:07 Penev wrote:
On April 24 2015 20:05 Elentos wrote:
On April 24 2015 20:05 Roadog wrote:
I actually went on hiatus from SC2 right between the release of HOTS and Black Friday 2014 so I missed the entire Blink era. I only Blink against Zerg really (I almost always just Colossus turtle against Terran) but after seeing all these Blink kills vT by Rain I want to pick this up

I thought Canadians were nice people.

I think we just found "Canadian idiot"

+ Show Spoiler +
If you don't know; It's a joke Roadog


I bet u've never watched South Park :|

You mean this show?

[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler +
Actually I haven't watched a lot of South Park, there were certain channels I didn't have as a kid
I only know a handful of things from that show, like the Canadians, "I have AIDS" and "City Wok"
sOs fan. Zerg just seem to have the most...potential. Dubbo Robo Colo! Why I play Protoss: Stalkers, bacon, toilets and mama -- Chelsea FC
Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
April 24 2015 11:14 GMT
#328
On April 24 2015 20:12 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2015 20:11 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On April 24 2015 20:10 LoneYoShi wrote:
On April 24 2015 20:06 GumBa wrote:
The only thing worse than blunk allins are when u call in a mule and at the same time the scv building your turret gets sniped by the dt it was supposed to stop


I can't stress how much I agree with that. There's litterally nothing you can do. Insta-quit, or wait and see your SCVs drop at a rate of one per second and then quit. And it happens freaking often too. One of the several reasons why I think TvP is the most frustrating matchup by a mile...


The other issue I have with the matchup is how linear the matchup for Terran is. There is literally 1 or 2 reasonable builds in the whole entire matchup

You have 3-rax opening or factory opening. One just straight up dies to blink (as seen with Gumiho), the other dies slowly and painfully.


Heres how to beat it:
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
April 24 2015 11:14 GMT
#329
whenever solar is having a bad day he looks like a really sad child
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
April 24 2015 11:14 GMT
#330
Solar has to win so he can have his delicious revenge on Sorry's ass
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
April 24 2015 11:15 GMT
#331
They didn't say Solars team? :s Or did my stream skip or something.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
April 24 2015 11:15 GMT
#332
On April 24 2015 20:14 Alucen-Will- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2015 20:12 Elentos wrote:
On April 24 2015 20:11 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On April 24 2015 20:10 LoneYoShi wrote:
On April 24 2015 20:06 GumBa wrote:
The only thing worse than blunk allins are when u call in a mule and at the same time the scv building your turret gets sniped by the dt it was supposed to stop


I can't stress how much I agree with that. There's litterally nothing you can do. Insta-quit, or wait and see your SCVs drop at a rate of one per second and then quit. And it happens freaking often too. One of the several reasons why I think TvP is the most frustrating matchup by a mile...


The other issue I have with the matchup is how linear the matchup for Terran is. There is literally 1 or 2 reasonable builds in the whole entire matchup

You have 3-rax opening or factory opening. One just straight up dies to blink (as seen with Gumiho), the other dies slowly and painfully.


Heres how to beat it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qECCZWf3At0

PartinG didn't commit to it though.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
April 24 2015 11:15 GMT
#333
Easy 4-0 for the Protoss Rook
Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
April 24 2015 11:15 GMT
#334
On April 24 2015 20:15 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2015 20:14 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On April 24 2015 20:12 Elentos wrote:
On April 24 2015 20:11 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On April 24 2015 20:10 LoneYoShi wrote:
On April 24 2015 20:06 GumBa wrote:
The only thing worse than blunk allins are when u call in a mule and at the same time the scv building your turret gets sniped by the dt it was supposed to stop


I can't stress how much I agree with that. There's litterally nothing you can do. Insta-quit, or wait and see your SCVs drop at a rate of one per second and then quit. And it happens freaking often too. One of the several reasons why I think TvP is the most frustrating matchup by a mile...


The other issue I have with the matchup is how linear the matchup for Terran is. There is literally 1 or 2 reasonable builds in the whole entire matchup

You have 3-rax opening or factory opening. One just straight up dies to blink (as seen with Gumiho), the other dies slowly and painfully.


Heres how to beat it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qECCZWf3At0

PartinG didn't commit to it though.


How to beat Protoss, I meant
fruity.
Profile Joined April 2012
England1711 Posts
April 24 2015 11:16 GMT
#335
On April 24 2015 20:15 Phredxor wrote:
They didn't say Solars team? :s Or did my stream skip or something.


Nope. Samsung Galaxy
Ex Zerg learning Terran. A bold move.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
April 24 2015 11:17 GMT
#336
On April 24 2015 20:15 Alucen-Will- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2015 20:15 Elentos wrote:
On April 24 2015 20:14 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On April 24 2015 20:12 Elentos wrote:
On April 24 2015 20:11 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On April 24 2015 20:10 LoneYoShi wrote:
On April 24 2015 20:06 GumBa wrote:
The only thing worse than blunk allins are when u call in a mule and at the same time the scv building your turret gets sniped by the dt it was supposed to stop


I can't stress how much I agree with that. There's litterally nothing you can do. Insta-quit, or wait and see your SCVs drop at a rate of one per second and then quit. And it happens freaking often too. One of the several reasons why I think TvP is the most frustrating matchup by a mile...


The other issue I have with the matchup is how linear the matchup for Terran is. There is literally 1 or 2 reasonable builds in the whole entire matchup

You have 3-rax opening or factory opening. One just straight up dies to blink (as seen with Gumiho), the other dies slowly and painfully.


Heres how to beat it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qECCZWf3At0

PartinG didn't commit to it though.


How to beat Protoss, I meant

I know how to beat Protoss, it has always been my best MU, but it's frustrating as shit when you get all-in'd, scout it but can't hold anyway, even with bunkers and all. I mean, you have map vetoes to get rid of maps that are good for blink all-ins I guess.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
April 24 2015 11:19 GMT
#337
Killing Ovies should be a crime
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Roadog
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada1670 Posts
April 24 2015 11:19 GMT
#338
I think it was Teoita who once said: "Protoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright."
sOs fan. Zerg just seem to have the most...potential. Dubbo Robo Colo! Why I play Protoss: Stalkers, bacon, toilets and mama -- Chelsea FC
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
April 24 2015 11:20 GMT
#339
On April 24 2015 20:19 Penev wrote:
Killing Ovies should be a crime

It looks too satisfying, nobody can resist.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
April 24 2015 11:20 GMT
#340
On April 24 2015 20:19 Roadog wrote:
I think it was Teoita who once said: "Protoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright."

That's his signature
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