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Very questionable decision making by PartinG...
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On March 30 2015 02:29 Heartland wrote:
oh thank god it's not 4-0
idk that game would have been much cooler if Parting actually had held
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Haha that was sick, trying to save that nexus was very greedy from Parting. Wp Hydra.
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this is why i do this almost every game vs protoss
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Parting way too overconfident
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Nobody has time for long games.
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On March 30 2015 02:26 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 02:23 Boucot wrote:
PartinG won't let Hydra reach the swarm hosts stage I feel. not like he should, he's shown time and again how to lose with them when ahead
Well, Hydra didn't let PartinG reach the stalkers stage :D
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On March 30 2015 02:26 [PkF] Wire wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 02:26 Nesto wrote:
I hate Parting vs Zerg matches...
something something sentry push something... gg...
it's fucking boring PartinG is extremely good, but he plays like a cunt and watching him play should make every Protoss feel guilty.
I feel nothing but swelling pride when PartinG plays. 
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Uninteresting series so far
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On March 30 2015 02:29 Ej_ wrote:idk that game would have been much cooler if Parting actually had held
We would have learnt something indeed, because I don't think you can hold the Nexus at all in that scenario. You probably should just make a wall at the ramp and expand again with a roughly equal position.
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On March 30 2015 02:28 KeksX wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 02:26 Heartland wrote:On March 30 2015 02:24 KeksX wrote:On March 30 2015 02:23 Heartland wrote:On March 30 2015 02:22 KeksX wrote:
I have never seen this gold base play work for zergs, anyone see a zerg winning with this...ever?
Protoss can reinforce right in your base, there's no such thing as a defender's advantage in ZvP, so why do this? of course there is a defenders advantage in ZvP, but gold bases have a lot less of those advantages because they should be harder to hold. Lack of ramps, more open space, etc What is that defender's advantage exactly? Protoss almost has a smaller reinforcement distance than zerg, so I find that hard to believe. On March 30 2015 02:23 sudete wrote:On March 30 2015 02:22 KeksX wrote:
I have never seen this gold base play work for zergs, anyone see a zerg winning with this...ever?
Protoss can reinforce right in your base, there's no such thing as a defender's advantage in ZvP, so why do this? You might want to check out CatZ's stream I'm inclined to say that CatZ faces much worse opponents on the ladder than those guys. I'm talking tournament games. when I say defenders advantage I mean stuff like ramps, chokes/open areas. Distance is part of it, and sure, warp in does negate that to some degree but you still often have to run up a ramp, or pass through places where OL:s can spot your advance Since when do ramps and chokes help Zerg in ZvP? Open areas maybe, but Protoss has a way to negate that as well. In ZvP there's just no defender's advantage that you can rely on. So a strategy that relies on you having it is stupid against Protoss imho. With that gold base you're putting yourself out there soo much, that any capable Protoss should be able to abuse it.
I gave example of general things that I mean when I say defenders advantage. And ramps do help Zerg, Roach concaves, queen or spine fire down from it and no vision up it for toss in some situations.
I think it's actually the one thing in sc2 that can be considered really imbalanced. Hydra is just way worse than Parting.
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On March 30 2015 02:30 Topin wrote:
Parting way too overconfident
It's a disrespect to Hydra. "I can do whatever I want and get away with it because I'm Parting and you suck"
hydra answered back by flooding more and more lings and winning
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On March 30 2015 02:31 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 02:28 KeksX wrote:On March 30 2015 02:26 Heartland wrote:On March 30 2015 02:24 KeksX wrote:On March 30 2015 02:23 Heartland wrote:On March 30 2015 02:22 KeksX wrote:
I have never seen this gold base play work for zergs, anyone see a zerg winning with this...ever?
Protoss can reinforce right in your base, there's no such thing as a defender's advantage in ZvP, so why do this? of course there is a defenders advantage in ZvP, but gold bases have a lot less of those advantages because they should be harder to hold. Lack of ramps, more open space, etc What is that defender's advantage exactly? Protoss almost has a smaller reinforcement distance than zerg, so I find that hard to believe. On March 30 2015 02:23 sudete wrote:On March 30 2015 02:22 KeksX wrote:
I have never seen this gold base play work for zergs, anyone see a zerg winning with this...ever?
Protoss can reinforce right in your base, there's no such thing as a defender's advantage in ZvP, so why do this? You might want to check out CatZ's stream I'm inclined to say that CatZ faces much worse opponents on the ladder than those guys. I'm talking tournament games. when I say defenders advantage I mean stuff like ramps, chokes/open areas. Distance is part of it, and sure, warp in does negate that to some degree but you still often have to run up a ramp, or pass through places where OL:s can spot your advance Since when do ramps and chokes help Zerg in ZvP? Open areas maybe, but Protoss has a way to negate that as well. In ZvP there's just no defender's advantage that you can rely on. So a strategy that relies on you having it is stupid against Protoss imho. With that gold base you're putting yourself out there soo much, that any capable Protoss should be able to abuse it. I gave example of general things that I mean when I say defenders advantage. And ramps do help Zerg, Roach concaves, queen or spine fire down from it and no vision up it for toss in some situations. I think it's actually the one thing in sc2 that can be considered really imbalanced. Hydra is just way worse than Parting.
ramps are imba?
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On March 30 2015 02:31 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 02:28 KeksX wrote:On March 30 2015 02:26 Heartland wrote:On March 30 2015 02:24 KeksX wrote:On March 30 2015 02:23 Heartland wrote:On March 30 2015 02:22 KeksX wrote:
I have never seen this gold base play work for zergs, anyone see a zerg winning with this...ever?
Protoss can reinforce right in your base, there's no such thing as a defender's advantage in ZvP, so why do this? of course there is a defenders advantage in ZvP, but gold bases have a lot less of those advantages because they should be harder to hold. Lack of ramps, more open space, etc What is that defender's advantage exactly? Protoss almost has a smaller reinforcement distance than zerg, so I find that hard to believe. On March 30 2015 02:23 sudete wrote:On March 30 2015 02:22 KeksX wrote:
I have never seen this gold base play work for zergs, anyone see a zerg winning with this...ever?
Protoss can reinforce right in your base, there's no such thing as a defender's advantage in ZvP, so why do this? You might want to check out CatZ's stream I'm inclined to say that CatZ faces much worse opponents on the ladder than those guys. I'm talking tournament games. when I say defenders advantage I mean stuff like ramps, chokes/open areas. Distance is part of it, and sure, warp in does negate that to some degree but you still often have to run up a ramp, or pass through places where OL:s can spot your advance Since when do ramps and chokes help Zerg in ZvP? Open areas maybe, but Protoss has a way to negate that as well. In ZvP there's just no defender's advantage that you can rely on. So a strategy that relies on you having it is stupid against Protoss imho. With that gold base you're putting yourself out there soo much, that any capable Protoss should be able to abuse it. I gave example of general things that I mean when I say defenders advantage. And ramps do help Zerg, Roach concaves, queen or spine fire down from it and no vision up it for toss in some situations. I think it's actually the one thing in sc2 that can be considered really imbalanced. Hydra is just way worse than Parting.
you're saying ramps are imba. wtf...
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On March 30 2015 02:31 Alchemik wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 02:31 Heartland wrote:On March 30 2015 02:28 KeksX wrote:On March 30 2015 02:26 Heartland wrote:On March 30 2015 02:24 KeksX wrote:On March 30 2015 02:23 Heartland wrote:On March 30 2015 02:22 KeksX wrote:
I have never seen this gold base play work for zergs, anyone see a zerg winning with this...ever?
Protoss can reinforce right in your base, there's no such thing as a defender's advantage in ZvP, so why do this? of course there is a defenders advantage in ZvP, but gold bases have a lot less of those advantages because they should be harder to hold. Lack of ramps, more open space, etc What is that defender's advantage exactly? Protoss almost has a smaller reinforcement distance than zerg, so I find that hard to believe. On March 30 2015 02:23 sudete wrote:On March 30 2015 02:22 KeksX wrote:
I have never seen this gold base play work for zergs, anyone see a zerg winning with this...ever?
Protoss can reinforce right in your base, there's no such thing as a defender's advantage in ZvP, so why do this? You might want to check out CatZ's stream I'm inclined to say that CatZ faces much worse opponents on the ladder than those guys. I'm talking tournament games. when I say defenders advantage I mean stuff like ramps, chokes/open areas. Distance is part of it, and sure, warp in does negate that to some degree but you still often have to run up a ramp, or pass through places where OL:s can spot your advance Since when do ramps and chokes help Zerg in ZvP? Open areas maybe, but Protoss has a way to negate that as well. In ZvP there's just no defender's advantage that you can rely on. So a strategy that relies on you having it is stupid against Protoss imho. With that gold base you're putting yourself out there soo much, that any capable Protoss should be able to abuse it. I gave example of general things that I mean when I say defenders advantage. And ramps do help Zerg, Roach concaves, queen or spine fire down from it and no vision up it for toss in some situations. I think it's actually the one thing in sc2 that can be considered really imbalanced. Hydra is just way worse than Parting. ramps are imba?
No, Zergs with golds are (more in the speedling expand into gold scenario)
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well, 2015 looks like a great year for finals so far ;>
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EPT
