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RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
March 29 2015 17:29 GMT
#801
HYYYDJWAAAA!!!
Psychonian
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2322 Posts
March 29 2015 17:29 GMT
#802
hahahhaa sick
Trans Rights
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24237 Posts
March 29 2015 17:29 GMT
#803
Very questionable decision making by PartinG...
Fuell
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands3111 Posts
March 29 2015 17:29 GMT
#804
lol...
fOu/Zenith/NEX/WeRRa/SlayerS
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
March 29 2015 17:29 GMT
#805
Wow cool lings.
why even
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 29 2015 17:29 GMT
#806
On March 30 2015 02:29 Heartland wrote:
oh thank god it's not 4-0

idk that game would have been much cooler if Parting actually had held
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
March 29 2015 17:29 GMT
#807
Haha that was sick, trying to save that nexus was very greedy from Parting. Wp Hydra.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Psychonian
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2322 Posts
March 29 2015 17:30 GMT
#808
this is why i do this almost every game vs protoss
Trans Rights
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10095 Posts
March 29 2015 17:30 GMT
#809
Parting way too overconfident
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
RaFox17
Profile Joined May 2013
Finland4581 Posts
March 29 2015 17:30 GMT
#810
Nobody has time for long games.
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
March 29 2015 17:30 GMT
#811
On March 30 2015 02:26 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2015 02:23 Boucot wrote:
PartinG won't let Hydra reach the swarm hosts stage I feel.

not like he should, he's shown time and again how to lose with them when ahead

Well, Hydra didn't let PartinG reach the stalkers stage :D
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7384 Posts
March 29 2015 17:30 GMT
#812
On March 30 2015 02:26 [PkF] Wire wrote:
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On March 30 2015 02:26 Nesto wrote:
I hate Parting vs Zerg matches...

something something sentry push something... gg...
it's fucking boring

PartinG is extremely good, but he plays like a cunt and watching him play should make every Protoss feel guilty.


I feel nothing but swelling pride when PartinG plays.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
palexhur
Profile Joined May 2010
Colombia730 Posts
March 29 2015 17:30 GMT
#813
Uninteresting series so far
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24237 Posts
March 29 2015 17:30 GMT
#814
On March 30 2015 02:29 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2015 02:29 Heartland wrote:
oh thank god it's not 4-0

idk that game would have been much cooler if Parting actually had held

We would have learnt something indeed, because I don't think you can hold the Nexus at all in that scenario. You probably should just make a wall at the ramp and expand again with a roughly equal position.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24592 Posts
March 29 2015 17:31 GMT
#815
On March 30 2015 02:28 KeksX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2015 02:26 Heartland wrote:
On March 30 2015 02:24 KeksX wrote:
On March 30 2015 02:23 Heartland wrote:
On March 30 2015 02:22 KeksX wrote:
I have never seen this gold base play work for zergs, anyone see a zerg winning with this...ever?


Protoss can reinforce right in your base, there's no such thing as a defender's advantage in ZvP, so why do this?


of course there is a defenders advantage in ZvP, but gold bases have a lot less of those advantages because they should be harder to hold. Lack of ramps, more open space, etc


What is that defender's advantage exactly? Protoss almost has a smaller reinforcement distance than zerg, so I find that hard to believe.

On March 30 2015 02:23 sudete wrote:
On March 30 2015 02:22 KeksX wrote:
I have never seen this gold base play work for zergs, anyone see a zerg winning with this...ever?


Protoss can reinforce right in your base, there's no such thing as a defender's advantage in ZvP, so why do this?


You might want to check out CatZ's stream



I'm inclined to say that CatZ faces much worse opponents on the ladder than those guys. I'm talking tournament games.


when I say defenders advantage I mean stuff like ramps, chokes/open areas. Distance is part of it, and sure, warp in does negate that to some degree but you still often have to run up a ramp, or pass through places where OL:s can spot your advance


Since when do ramps and chokes help Zerg in ZvP? Open areas maybe, but Protoss has a way to negate that as well.


In ZvP there's just no defender's advantage that you can rely on. So a strategy that relies on you having it is stupid against Protoss imho. With that gold base you're putting yourself out there soo much, that any capable Protoss should be able to abuse it.


I gave example of general things that I mean when I say defenders advantage. And ramps do help Zerg, Roach concaves, queen or spine fire down from it and no vision up it for toss in some situations.

I think it's actually the one thing in sc2 that can be considered really imbalanced. Hydra is just way worse than Parting.
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-29 17:31:54
March 29 2015 17:31 GMT
#816
On March 30 2015 02:30 Topin wrote:
Parting way too overconfident


It's a disrespect to Hydra. "I can do whatever I want and get away with it because I'm Parting and you suck"

hydra answered back by flooding more and more lings and winning
rip passion
Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
March 29 2015 17:31 GMT
#817
On March 30 2015 02:31 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2015 02:28 KeksX wrote:
On March 30 2015 02:26 Heartland wrote:
On March 30 2015 02:24 KeksX wrote:
On March 30 2015 02:23 Heartland wrote:
On March 30 2015 02:22 KeksX wrote:
I have never seen this gold base play work for zergs, anyone see a zerg winning with this...ever?


Protoss can reinforce right in your base, there's no such thing as a defender's advantage in ZvP, so why do this?


of course there is a defenders advantage in ZvP, but gold bases have a lot less of those advantages because they should be harder to hold. Lack of ramps, more open space, etc


What is that defender's advantage exactly? Protoss almost has a smaller reinforcement distance than zerg, so I find that hard to believe.

On March 30 2015 02:23 sudete wrote:
On March 30 2015 02:22 KeksX wrote:
I have never seen this gold base play work for zergs, anyone see a zerg winning with this...ever?


Protoss can reinforce right in your base, there's no such thing as a defender's advantage in ZvP, so why do this?


You might want to check out CatZ's stream



I'm inclined to say that CatZ faces much worse opponents on the ladder than those guys. I'm talking tournament games.


when I say defenders advantage I mean stuff like ramps, chokes/open areas. Distance is part of it, and sure, warp in does negate that to some degree but you still often have to run up a ramp, or pass through places where OL:s can spot your advance


Since when do ramps and chokes help Zerg in ZvP? Open areas maybe, but Protoss has a way to negate that as well.


In ZvP there's just no defender's advantage that you can rely on. So a strategy that relies on you having it is stupid against Protoss imho. With that gold base you're putting yourself out there soo much, that any capable Protoss should be able to abuse it.


I gave example of general things that I mean when I say defenders advantage. And ramps do help Zerg, Roach concaves, queen or spine fire down from it and no vision up it for toss in some situations.

I think it's actually the one thing in sc2 that can be considered really imbalanced. Hydra is just way worse than Parting.

ramps are imba?
Psychonian
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2322 Posts
March 29 2015 17:32 GMT
#818
On March 30 2015 02:31 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2015 02:28 KeksX wrote:
On March 30 2015 02:26 Heartland wrote:
On March 30 2015 02:24 KeksX wrote:
On March 30 2015 02:23 Heartland wrote:
On March 30 2015 02:22 KeksX wrote:
I have never seen this gold base play work for zergs, anyone see a zerg winning with this...ever?


Protoss can reinforce right in your base, there's no such thing as a defender's advantage in ZvP, so why do this?


of course there is a defenders advantage in ZvP, but gold bases have a lot less of those advantages because they should be harder to hold. Lack of ramps, more open space, etc


What is that defender's advantage exactly? Protoss almost has a smaller reinforcement distance than zerg, so I find that hard to believe.

On March 30 2015 02:23 sudete wrote:
On March 30 2015 02:22 KeksX wrote:
I have never seen this gold base play work for zergs, anyone see a zerg winning with this...ever?


Protoss can reinforce right in your base, there's no such thing as a defender's advantage in ZvP, so why do this?


You might want to check out CatZ's stream



I'm inclined to say that CatZ faces much worse opponents on the ladder than those guys. I'm talking tournament games.


when I say defenders advantage I mean stuff like ramps, chokes/open areas. Distance is part of it, and sure, warp in does negate that to some degree but you still often have to run up a ramp, or pass through places where OL:s can spot your advance


Since when do ramps and chokes help Zerg in ZvP? Open areas maybe, but Protoss has a way to negate that as well.


In ZvP there's just no defender's advantage that you can rely on. So a strategy that relies on you having it is stupid against Protoss imho. With that gold base you're putting yourself out there soo much, that any capable Protoss should be able to abuse it.


I gave example of general things that I mean when I say defenders advantage. And ramps do help Zerg, Roach concaves, queen or spine fire down from it and no vision up it for toss in some situations.

I think it's actually the one thing in sc2 that can be considered really imbalanced. Hydra is just way worse than Parting.


you're saying ramps are imba. wtf...
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Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24592 Posts
March 29 2015 17:32 GMT
#819
On March 30 2015 02:31 Alchemik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2015 02:31 Heartland wrote:
On March 30 2015 02:28 KeksX wrote:
On March 30 2015 02:26 Heartland wrote:
On March 30 2015 02:24 KeksX wrote:
On March 30 2015 02:23 Heartland wrote:
On March 30 2015 02:22 KeksX wrote:
I have never seen this gold base play work for zergs, anyone see a zerg winning with this...ever?


Protoss can reinforce right in your base, there's no such thing as a defender's advantage in ZvP, so why do this?


of course there is a defenders advantage in ZvP, but gold bases have a lot less of those advantages because they should be harder to hold. Lack of ramps, more open space, etc


What is that defender's advantage exactly? Protoss almost has a smaller reinforcement distance than zerg, so I find that hard to believe.

On March 30 2015 02:23 sudete wrote:
On March 30 2015 02:22 KeksX wrote:
I have never seen this gold base play work for zergs, anyone see a zerg winning with this...ever?


Protoss can reinforce right in your base, there's no such thing as a defender's advantage in ZvP, so why do this?


You might want to check out CatZ's stream



I'm inclined to say that CatZ faces much worse opponents on the ladder than those guys. I'm talking tournament games.


when I say defenders advantage I mean stuff like ramps, chokes/open areas. Distance is part of it, and sure, warp in does negate that to some degree but you still often have to run up a ramp, or pass through places where OL:s can spot your advance


Since when do ramps and chokes help Zerg in ZvP? Open areas maybe, but Protoss has a way to negate that as well.


In ZvP there's just no defender's advantage that you can rely on. So a strategy that relies on you having it is stupid against Protoss imho. With that gold base you're putting yourself out there soo much, that any capable Protoss should be able to abuse it.


I gave example of general things that I mean when I say defenders advantage. And ramps do help Zerg, Roach concaves, queen or spine fire down from it and no vision up it for toss in some situations.

I think it's actually the one thing in sc2 that can be considered really imbalanced. Hydra is just way worse than Parting.

ramps are imba?


No, Zergs with golds are (more in the speedling expand into gold scenario)
Nesto
Profile Joined November 2009
Switzerland1318 Posts
March 29 2015 17:32 GMT
#820
well, 2015 looks like a great year for finals so far ;>
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