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nick00bot
326 Posts
On March 16 2015 05:08 OtherWorld wrote: I think that it'll come with more experience of big foreign tournaments. He was certainly a bit nervous today. I sure hope so, he plays like a more creative Rain and definitely has potential to be better than Rain ever was | ||
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plotspot
800 Posts
On March 16 2015 06:29 mikumegurine wrote: hmmm wonder if Overwatch will get the same amount of viewers as CS:GO... Not to be too hasty, but I don't think Overwatch will come near to where CS is. CS is really about the feeling. It's incredibly fun to play. I haven't played it much, but I could easily see how addictive this game could get. Overwatch much like Team Fortress already looks quite "gimmicky" on account of all the different characters. CS has strategic and exectuive depth despite everything else being extremely lucid. | ||
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Parcelleus
Australia1662 Posts
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nath
United States1788 Posts
On March 16 2015 08:43 plotspot wrote: Ok, just caught up. Zest has been looking incredible. With his reposed manner and sharp game sense all this week, he has been a killer. This is real great mental skill and execution.Trap is very refined and creative, but Zest simply has more toughness and experience. But a bright future will await Trap if he continues practicing his versatile style, he just needs more exposure and wisdom to one day win it. The PvP is also unlike what most was expected, lots of interesting Tempest macro action. I feared for the worst. Not to be too hasty, but I don't think Overwatch will come near to where CS is. CS is really about the feeling. It's incredibly fun to play. I haven't played it much, but I could easily see how addictive this game could get. Overwatch much like Team Fortress already looks quite "gimmicky" on account of all the different characters. CS has strategic and exectuive depth despite everything else being extremely lucid. you really think this about his other matches as well? obviously he was stellar in the grand finals, but IMO he played way worse than Trap in the ro16/ro8/ro4 | ||
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ukiya2004
199 Posts
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pure.Wasted
Canada4701 Posts
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
On March 16 2015 09:50 pure.Wasted wrote: Not even tempted to watch the finals. Did Paul make any farewell speeches or anything of that nature, though? That I'd watch. Nope | ||
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pure.Wasted
Canada4701 Posts
Damn, that sucks. Thanks! | ||
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Elentos
55594 Posts
On March 16 2015 09:32 nath wrote: you really think this about his other matches as well? obviously he was stellar in the grand finals, but IMO he played way worse than Trap in the ro16/ro8/ro4 Neither of them played really well in the Ro16. Trap had good builds prepared for Flash, but he also made major errors (i.e. having 4 medivacs full of units dropped in his main when he has phoenixes) and he barely made it (game 1 is a coin toss, he was completely all-in on Inferno Pools and decided to do that before even scouting Flash; if they are cross he's fucked and Flash still was close to holding; and by game 5 he had completely gotten into Flash's head to the point where Flash put himself in a bad spot). Zest showed his ability to adapt to his opponent against hydra, but it was far from stellar play <.< In the Ro8 Trap played much better than Zest, whose series against INnoVation was a complete trainwreck, although he still almost didn't make it past Fantasy. In the Ro4, Trap played very well, except for that game on Catallena where he made some bad misjudgements, although I will say that Dark wasn't playing that well overall, he can do better; he took >10 worker kills from oracles in like 3 games, in one of them after the 11 minute mark, and of course he got his entire tech sniped by blink stalkers on Overgrowth. For Zest, between the Ro8 and the Ro4 there was a visual improvement imo. He played with more confidence. He still made mistakes, but it was much better than it was against INnoVation. So I honestly think the difference wasn't that big. Or maybe it's Zest special skill now to play at a lower level than he used to but in the progress drag his opponents down with him <.< (works in actual sports). | ||
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Yorkie
United States12612 Posts
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KeksX
Germany3634 Posts
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Yorkie
United States12612 Posts
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37122 Posts
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Motlu
Australia884 Posts
On March 16 2015 13:16 Seeker wrote: Ugh... I've never hated Zest this badly before... I now hate him for both being too damn handsome and for daring to replace (Dear) and crush the hopes of (Trap) my favourite players. >.< | ||
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showstealer1829
Australia3123 Posts
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On March 16 2015 13:16 Seeker wrote: Ugh... I've never hated Zest this badly before... How surprising coming from a SKT fan, unable to recognize the might of the God Of StarCraft II, KT.Zest. My original prediction was Trap to beat herO in the finals, so I was 33% right I guess. For this finals' predictions, well : On March 15 2015 19:14 OtherWorld wrote: Zest is the best, but Trap is such a cute villain. Damn whoever wins I'll be both happy and sad. But well. GO ZEST, BICEPSTOSS FIGHTING~~ Oh yeah and predictions  Trap 3-0 Incorrect into Zest 4-3 Incorrect score but correct winnerNumber of games featuring proxy gates : 1 IncorrectT Number of games featuring Tempests : 3 Correct iirc? Pantanal, Deadwing, Catallena? Number of games featuring Carriers : 0 Correct but that one was EZ Number of games where both players expand at least once : 4 Correct Number of games where at least one player pray to InCa : 3 I believe it's 4, all but Expedition? Number of games that will make DLO go "PvP best MU" : 7 We didn't get 7 games but if they played them out anyway that would have been correctNumber of games that will make the Terran supremacists go "PvP terrible MU" : 7 Judging by this post this is correct | ||
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TAMinator
Australia2706 Posts
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Kuchikikun
Italy560 Posts
On March 16 2015 15:16 TAMinator wrote: PvP finals? guess I didnt miss much You missed a good finals with back and forth games (game 1 in particular),macro games,aggressive build and pretty much everything you need to have an entertaining series. The only problem was that Zest was in God Mode and Trap was too nervous. | ||
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plotspot
800 Posts
On March 16 2015 09:32 nath wrote: you really think this about his other matches as well? obviously he was stellar in the grand finals, but IMO he played way worse than Trap in the ro16/ro8/ro4 Well, it's kinda hard to say, but I think he did. Maybe Zest is stronger when nobody expects anything from him. He was practically dead and out against Hydra, probably at this moment he decided to cast off all thoughts of burden and just focus on a good performance. From this moment on he gained some sort of conciousness, the sort of "It's still there, if I do this and this I still have control over the game". If you recall, in his macro games Zest wasn't always ahead, often times even behind, but with small incremental steps done right, he still won the games in the end. In the perspective of others, this might look like Zest was shaky, didn't play well, had luck and so on, but for me this is the only true way how to judge the performance of a player in game with so much unpredictabilty involved. In a disadvantage, due to build order disavantage or bad engagements, having the sense to do 7-8 little things right, slowly canceling the unfavoring odds, that's real game sense and skill, wherever it might hail from. Zest also had the best mentality in this tournaments. He didn't waver, didn't second guess. He was like a very good poker player. So what if I failed to rush Innovation twice and going out in embarrassing fashion, I take the risk, it doesn't work, I leave the game. Next game please. Very clear and concise in this actions. No regrets. For me that's a sign of strong mentality, that can put fear and uncertainty into your enemies' decision. Why would Hydra, Innovation or Bbyong suddenly choke out? For me it's too easy to say that "oh suddenly the other guy plays bad, Zest just with luck". No, something about Zest must have messed with what they wanted to do. Look at Trap in the finals, while sometiles he is lost as to whether to attack or defend, Zest generally had the decisiveness to all his actions. That's why he won. Of course I won't deny that a portion of luck was still in play, but these characteristics about Zest are in my opinion what is responsible for his victories, and why it would feel unreal/underwhelming that he has won. But there it is, an earnest way to victory. | ||
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REyeM
2674 Posts
On March 16 2015 15:16 TAMinator wrote: PvP finals? guess I didnt miss much It was a great finals indeed | ||
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