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Cut down on the balance/design whining please.
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
March 14 2015 15:15 GMT
#1541
I bet that Dark is going for Corruptors here.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 14 2015 15:15 GMT
#1542
should go corruptors
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
March 14 2015 15:16 GMT
#1543
On March 15 2015 00:15 Noonius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2015 00:14 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Apollo is pretty good at this


better than tastosis and meta from 2012, that's for sure


dude you hate maru and you hate tastosis,

i tried being polite but you're really a silly, silly person
maru lover forever
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
March 14 2015 15:16 GMT
#1544
Sick engagement for Maru at first, but then.. >.>
Moderatorshe/her
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 14 2015 15:16 GMT
#1545
YUGI OOOOOHHHHH
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
March 14 2015 15:16 GMT
#1546
yay corruptors!
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
March 14 2015 15:16 GMT
#1547
Dark making his trademark Corruptors
Wat
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
March 14 2015 15:16 GMT
#1548
Maru already getting a tank in preparation for the corrupters :D
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TL+ Member
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
March 14 2015 15:16 GMT
#1549
Called it.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
March 14 2015 15:16 GMT
#1550
On March 15 2015 00:14 plogamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2015 00:10 Alchemik wrote:
On March 15 2015 00:06 Jazzman88 wrote:
On March 15 2015 00:03 Ej_ wrote:
On March 15 2015 00:02 Jazzman88 wrote:
On March 15 2015 00:00 Ej_ wrote:
On March 14 2015 23:59 plogamer wrote:
On March 14 2015 23:58 Alchemik wrote:
On March 14 2015 23:57 plogamer wrote:
Oh look what happens when a Zerg realizes that speedlings are very fast and thus good for counter attacks.

and you know what would happen when a Terran would realize that bunkers are very good and thus good vs counter attacks?

Same could be said for turrets. But anyone knows that it was a calculated decision to invest in a stronger push. If maru build turrets and bunkers, his bio count would be unable to pressure Dark's fourth.

and then turns out he just has good macro, there's bunker at 3rd, turret at each base and bio walking over your 4th


Ah, clearly you know better. Teach me your ways when you win GSL...

I mean, yes, there are options to defend, but they do come at opportunity cost ESPECIALLY versus the greedy 4th/macro hatch timing of Dark combined with the creep spread.

Clearly plogamer knows better how to counter attack with speedlings than all Zerg progamers that supposedly don't do it as often as they should


I agree, Zergs should counter-attack more. I'm saying in this specific game instance, given what happened with the Reaper/Hellion harass, the lack of early stunting of the creep, and the early timing of all that extra Larvae production with the 4th and macro hatch, Maru didn't have the option to invest in defenses, he needed to break Dark and keep the army on his side of the map by force. Especially when you look at his minerals during that push and they're always super low. Even his fourth base was a little later than usual because he made the decision to go so hard at Dark. So, in this situation, I don't believe Maru felt or calculated he could take the time and money to invest in defensive things.

pretty much the same thing could be said about Zerg's not counter attacking as much - if they do counter attack in any meaningful way, they instantly lose if there's a full bunker, maybe a widow mine, and the push at the same time, so you can only do that in low numbers or when the game's going passive, which is what Dark does (or go full Leenock/TRUE and make 60 banelings before making mutas)


Lings can be pulled back from bunkered positions and cut off reinforcements, or go for a flank/surround. You're grasping for straws.

Full bunker = 4 marines, 4 supply, 200 minerals, 100 minerals for bunker itself. A mine there? That's one less mine at the fourth.

It's like you just can't see another's POV except yourself.

...it's like you do the same, bro. I never said ling run-bys are bad, but no, I don't agree that pro Zerg players don't know that speedlings are fast - if they don't do run-bys, maybe it's better to think "why" instead of saying it's a mistake
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
March 14 2015 15:17 GMT
#1551
the tanks are smart vs the corruptors
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
March 14 2015 15:17 GMT
#1552
hope the tanks pay off
maru lover forever
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8245 Posts
March 14 2015 15:17 GMT
#1553
Maru needs more tanks. He isn't going to win this fight.
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
March 14 2015 15:17 GMT
#1554
On March 15 2015 00:17 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
the tanks are smart vs the corruptors


Taeja did the same response as well
Wat
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
March 14 2015 15:17 GMT
#1555
On March 15 2015 00:16 The_Templar wrote:
Maru already getting a tank in preparation for the corrupters :D

TaeJa style. TaeJa defines the anti-Dark meta while basically retired <.<
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Megafather
Profile Joined February 2015
138 Posts
March 14 2015 15:17 GMT
#1556
On March 15 2015 00:16 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Called it.


Called it the last page mate ^^
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
March 14 2015 15:18 GMT
#1557
maru forgot 3/3 ; ((
TL+ Member
plogamer
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada3132 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-14 15:19:09
March 14 2015 15:18 GMT
#1558
On March 15 2015 00:16 Alchemik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2015 00:14 plogamer wrote:
On March 15 2015 00:10 Alchemik wrote:
On March 15 2015 00:06 Jazzman88 wrote:
On March 15 2015 00:03 Ej_ wrote:
On March 15 2015 00:02 Jazzman88 wrote:
On March 15 2015 00:00 Ej_ wrote:
On March 14 2015 23:59 plogamer wrote:
On March 14 2015 23:58 Alchemik wrote:
On March 14 2015 23:57 plogamer wrote:
Oh look what happens when a Zerg realizes that speedlings are very fast and thus good for counter attacks.

and you know what would happen when a Terran would realize that bunkers are very good and thus good vs counter attacks?

Same could be said for turrets. But anyone knows that it was a calculated decision to invest in a stronger push. If maru build turrets and bunkers, his bio count would be unable to pressure Dark's fourth.

and then turns out he just has good macro, there's bunker at 3rd, turret at each base and bio walking over your 4th


Ah, clearly you know better. Teach me your ways when you win GSL...

I mean, yes, there are options to defend, but they do come at opportunity cost ESPECIALLY versus the greedy 4th/macro hatch timing of Dark combined with the creep spread.

Clearly plogamer knows better how to counter attack with speedlings than all Zerg progamers that supposedly don't do it as often as they should


I agree, Zergs should counter-attack more. I'm saying in this specific game instance, given what happened with the Reaper/Hellion harass, the lack of early stunting of the creep, and the early timing of all that extra Larvae production with the 4th and macro hatch, Maru didn't have the option to invest in defenses, he needed to break Dark and keep the army on his side of the map by force. Especially when you look at his minerals during that push and they're always super low. Even his fourth base was a little later than usual because he made the decision to go so hard at Dark. So, in this situation, I don't believe Maru felt or calculated he could take the time and money to invest in defensive things.

pretty much the same thing could be said about Zerg's not counter attacking as much - if they do counter attack in any meaningful way, they instantly lose if there's a full bunker, maybe a widow mine, and the push at the same time, so you can only do that in low numbers or when the game's going passive, which is what Dark does (or go full Leenock/TRUE and make 60 banelings before making mutas)


Lings can be pulled back from bunkered positions and cut off reinforcements, or go for a flank/surround. You're grasping for straws.

Full bunker = 4 marines, 4 supply, 200 minerals, 100 minerals for bunker itself. A mine there? That's one less mine at the fourth.

It's like you just can't see another's POV except yourself.

...it's like you do the same, bro. I never said ling run-bys are bad, but no, I don't agree that pro Zerg players don't know that speedlings are fast - if they don't do run-bys, maybe it's better to think "why" instead of saying it's a mistake

Top pro Zergs do it, that was my point. See Life, and currently Dark.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
March 14 2015 15:18 GMT
#1559
Creep: A hard counter to Maru
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
March 14 2015 15:18 GMT
#1560
Looking more and more like a 3-0
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