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Cut down on the balance/design whining please.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
March 14 2015 14:32 GMT
#1101
On March 14 2015 23:28 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2015 23:26 [PkF] Wire wrote:
I wonder if Blizzard will have enough balls to remove every map of this terrible map pool for next season. TLMC gave us some pretty outstanding maps, I'm sick of a map pool in which the only good map has been played ad nauseam.

Prepare to see SS and Inferno kept because they "really want to see how these maps play out when on the ladder for a longer time".

After their communication on the ladder patch, I'm more than prepared for that. Sadly.
Jazzman88
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada2228 Posts
March 14 2015 14:32 GMT
#1102
On March 14 2015 23:30 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2015 23:28 Jazzman88 wrote:
On March 14 2015 23:27 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On March 14 2015 23:25 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On March 14 2015 23:23 Incognoto wrote:
On March 14 2015 23:22 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On March 14 2015 23:22 Incognoto wrote:
On March 14 2015 23:20 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
man, please stop talking Incontrol. Dat non-knowledge about Dark


you're ignorant if you don't consider maru as the monster opponent he is. exactly how incontrol is describing him. think you're out of touch mate

I am still pissed about what was said before the last Dark game.


oh, sorry about that then

what did they say

i ain't gonna lie, dark is a really scary zerg, comparable to life

The usual, hyping Taeja, who is awesome ofc, to high heavens and talking about Dark games from like 2012. Imo every commentator should be required to watch SPL.


Its a bit embarrassing when random people on the internet have more knowledge than those who are getting paid thousands of dollars to provide analysis. Shame ESL didn't hire Artosis


Wow. Lovely that the armchair analyzing has moved from in-game to the analysis desk now.

Did you see the pre-talk Dark-Taeja? It was really dreadful.


I did, but I guess I am not that picky about the pre-game chatter on the analysis desk because it's all based on past games which have some but not a lot of bearing on the game at hand (see: Fantasy v Rain).
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-14 14:34:15
March 14 2015 14:32 GMT
#1103
this is going to be a hellbt marine timing

e: ok nvm

just gonna watch with baited breath
maru lover forever
lastride
Profile Joined April 2014
2390 Posts
March 14 2015 14:33 GMT
#1104
On March 14 2015 23:31 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2015 23:28 Ej_ wrote:
On March 14 2015 23:27 OtherWorld wrote:
On March 14 2015 23:25 Ej_ wrote:
On March 14 2015 23:24 OtherWorld wrote:
Pfff I still can't believe all the hype Dark is getting reading the thread.

hyping Dark up was ok before MMA made him his staircase to GSL playoffs

The truth is that if Dark was a Samsung or a CJ player no one would give a shit about him until he actually wins something lol

effOrt got hyped for winning 2 maps vs Maru and reaching ro16 of GSL


Kespa BW players get a huge amount of hype for lesser results. Trap could win MLG, get 4th in WCS Season 3 Finals, top 5 in GSL, 4th at Red Bull, multiple Code S qualifications and do well in Proleague and he got about 1/10th the hype of players like effort for beating maru once or Flash for beating Byul once.

wasnt trap a kespa bw player too?
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
March 14 2015 14:33 GMT
#1105
On March 14 2015 23:31 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2015 23:28 DJHelium wrote:
On March 14 2015 23:26 [PkF] Wire wrote:
I wonder if Blizzard will have enough balls to remove every map of this terrible map pool for next season. TLMC gave us some pretty outstanding maps, I'm sick of a map pool in which the only good map has been played ad nauseam.


I think it should be the standard more than the exception that a map gets dropped. A lot more fun for both players and viewers. I guess some pros wont like it

I don't think so. There should indeed be a quicker rotation, but I'm more than OK with two seasons on a good solid map like Overgrowth or Frost. I wouldn't be OK with Secret Spring and Inferno Pools remaining in the map pool one season more though.

If we look at the current map pool : Overgrowth can't decently stay, Catallena/Deadwing are bad maps AND are there for two seasons, Secret Spring and Inferno Pools are retarded beyond what can be expressed with words. Vaani and Expedition Lost may be OK, and even those maps are really far from amazing (not to mention the slow mining rate on them that fucks every build up, but anyway). At least 5 maps need to be replaced with good ones.


Replacing 5 maps would make it the more standard option, right? :D
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Jazzman88
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada2228 Posts
March 14 2015 14:33 GMT
#1106
On March 14 2015 23:32 Incognoto wrote:
this is going to be a hellbt marine timing


I tried Bbyong's hellbat build on ladder yesterday and boy howdy is it fucking sick.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 14 2015 14:33 GMT
#1107
On March 14 2015 23:33 lastride wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2015 23:31 stuchiu wrote:
On March 14 2015 23:28 Ej_ wrote:
On March 14 2015 23:27 OtherWorld wrote:
On March 14 2015 23:25 Ej_ wrote:
On March 14 2015 23:24 OtherWorld wrote:
Pfff I still can't believe all the hype Dark is getting reading the thread.

hyping Dark up was ok before MMA made him his staircase to GSL playoffs

The truth is that if Dark was a Samsung or a CJ player no one would give a shit about him until he actually wins something lol

effOrt got hyped for winning 2 maps vs Maru and reaching ro16 of GSL


Kespa BW players get a huge amount of hype for lesser results. Trap could win MLG, get 4th in WCS Season 3 Finals, top 5 in GSL, 4th at Red Bull, multiple Code S qualifications and do well in Proleague and he got about 1/10th the hype of players like effort for beating maru once or Flash for beating Byul once.

wasnt trap a kespa bw player too?

nowhere near as big as either Flash or effOrt
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46223 Posts
March 14 2015 14:33 GMT
#1108
On March 14 2015 23:32 iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2015 23:30 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On March 14 2015 23:28 Jazzman88 wrote:
On March 14 2015 23:27 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On March 14 2015 23:25 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On March 14 2015 23:23 Incognoto wrote:
On March 14 2015 23:22 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On March 14 2015 23:22 Incognoto wrote:
On March 14 2015 23:20 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
man, please stop talking Incontrol. Dat non-knowledge about Dark


you're ignorant if you don't consider maru as the monster opponent he is. exactly how incontrol is describing him. think you're out of touch mate

I am still pissed about what was said before the last Dark game.


oh, sorry about that then

what did they say

i ain't gonna lie, dark is a really scary zerg, comparable to life

The usual, hyping Taeja, who is awesome ofc, to high heavens and talking about Dark games from like 2012. Imo every commentator should be required to watch SPL.


Its a bit embarrassing when random people on the internet have more knowledge than those who are getting paid thousands of dollars to provide analysis. Shame ESL didn't hire Artosis
oh fuck off

Wow. Lovely that the armchair analyzing has moved from in-game to the analysis desk now.

Did you see the pre-talk Dark-Taeja? It was really dreadful.



He needs to catch up on his Taylor Swift.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
March 14 2015 14:33 GMT
#1109
On March 14 2015 23:33 lastride wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2015 23:31 stuchiu wrote:
On March 14 2015 23:28 Ej_ wrote:
On March 14 2015 23:27 OtherWorld wrote:
On March 14 2015 23:25 Ej_ wrote:
On March 14 2015 23:24 OtherWorld wrote:
Pfff I still can't believe all the hype Dark is getting reading the thread.

hyping Dark up was ok before MMA made him his staircase to GSL playoffs

The truth is that if Dark was a Samsung or a CJ player no one would give a shit about him until he actually wins something lol

effOrt got hyped for winning 2 maps vs Maru and reaching ro16 of GSL


Kespa BW players get a huge amount of hype for lesser results. Trap could win MLG, get 4th in WCS Season 3 Finals, top 5 in GSL, 4th at Red Bull, multiple Code S qualifications and do well in Proleague and he got about 1/10th the hype of players like effort for beating maru once or Flash for beating Byul once.

wasnt trap a kespa bw player too?

he means a titan from bw like flash, effort, jd
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Fuell
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands3111 Posts
March 14 2015 14:34 GMT
#1110
On March 14 2015 23:32 iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2015 23:30 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On March 14 2015 23:28 Jazzman88 wrote:
On March 14 2015 23:27 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On March 14 2015 23:25 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On March 14 2015 23:23 Incognoto wrote:
On March 14 2015 23:22 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On March 14 2015 23:22 Incognoto wrote:
On March 14 2015 23:20 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
man, please stop talking Incontrol. Dat non-knowledge about Dark


you're ignorant if you don't consider maru as the monster opponent he is. exactly how incontrol is describing him. think you're out of touch mate

I am still pissed about what was said before the last Dark game.


oh, sorry about that then

what did they say

i ain't gonna lie, dark is a really scary zerg, comparable to life

The usual, hyping Taeja, who is awesome ofc, to high heavens and talking about Dark games from like 2012. Imo every commentator should be required to watch SPL.


Its a bit embarrassing when random people on the internet have more knowledge than those who are getting paid thousands of dollars to provide analysis. Shame ESL didn't hire Artosis
oh fuck off

Wow. Lovely that the armchair analyzing has moved from in-game to the analysis desk now.

Did you see the pre-talk Dark-Taeja? It was really dreadful.


<3
fOu/Zenith/NEX/WeRRa/SlayerS
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
March 14 2015 14:34 GMT
#1111
On March 14 2015 23:33 lastride wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2015 23:31 stuchiu wrote:
On March 14 2015 23:28 Ej_ wrote:
On March 14 2015 23:27 OtherWorld wrote:
On March 14 2015 23:25 Ej_ wrote:
On March 14 2015 23:24 OtherWorld wrote:
Pfff I still can't believe all the hype Dark is getting reading the thread.

hyping Dark up was ok before MMA made him his staircase to GSL playoffs

The truth is that if Dark was a Samsung or a CJ player no one would give a shit about him until he actually wins something lol

effOrt got hyped for winning 2 maps vs Maru and reaching ro16 of GSL


Kespa BW players get a huge amount of hype for lesser results. Trap could win MLG, get 4th in WCS Season 3 Finals, top 5 in GSL, 4th at Red Bull, multiple Code S qualifications and do well in Proleague and he got about 1/10th the hype of players like effort for beating maru once or Flash for beating Byul once.

wasnt trap a kespa bw player too?


yep
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plogamer
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada3132 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-14 14:35:15
March 14 2015 14:34 GMT
#1112
On March 14 2015 23:33 Jazzman88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2015 23:32 Incognoto wrote:
this is going to be a hellbt marine timing


I tried Bbyong's hellbat build on ladder yesterday and boy howdy is it fucking sick.

Love it when Zergs think they can skip scouting and drone drone drone without any real game sense. Having said this, I haven't done the hellbat push ever. I have a marine hellion push that requires some control.

+ Show Spoiler +

ball up marines, pull hellions behind and kill lings that surround marines
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
March 14 2015 14:34 GMT
#1113
Nydus network on three bases? Interesting...
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
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Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
March 14 2015 14:35 GMT
#1114
On March 14 2015 23:34 plogamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2015 23:33 Jazzman88 wrote:
On March 14 2015 23:32 Incognoto wrote:
this is going to be a hellbt marine timing


I tried Bbyong's hellbat build on ladder yesterday and boy howdy is it fucking sick.

Love it when Zergs think they can skip scouting and drone drone drone without any real game sense. Having said this, I haven't done the hellbat push ever. I have a marine hellion push that requires high control.

top 3 control
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
Jazzman88
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada2228 Posts
March 14 2015 14:35 GMT
#1115
NYDUS 2: THE REKTONING!
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
March 14 2015 14:35 GMT
#1116
Who is the caster with no idea whatsoever about MULE trick>?
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
OsaX Nymloth
Profile Joined March 2013
Poland3244 Posts
March 14 2015 14:35 GMT
#1117
Dark taking a page from Solar's book?
Twitter: @osaxnymloth
plogamer
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada3132 Posts
March 14 2015 14:35 GMT
#1118
On March 14 2015 23:35 Undead1993 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2015 23:34 plogamer wrote:
On March 14 2015 23:33 Jazzman88 wrote:
On March 14 2015 23:32 Incognoto wrote:
this is going to be a hellbt marine timing


I tried Bbyong's hellbat build on ladder yesterday and boy howdy is it fucking sick.

Love it when Zergs think they can skip scouting and drone drone drone without any real game sense. Having said this, I haven't done the hellbat push ever. I have a marine hellion push that requires high control.

top 3 control

Im high. I meant some control.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
March 14 2015 14:35 GMT
#1119
On March 14 2015 23:33 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2015 23:31 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On March 14 2015 23:28 DJHelium wrote:
On March 14 2015 23:26 [PkF] Wire wrote:
I wonder if Blizzard will have enough balls to remove every map of this terrible map pool for next season. TLMC gave us some pretty outstanding maps, I'm sick of a map pool in which the only good map has been played ad nauseam.


I think it should be the standard more than the exception that a map gets dropped. A lot more fun for both players and viewers. I guess some pros wont like it

I don't think so. There should indeed be a quicker rotation, but I'm more than OK with two seasons on a good solid map like Overgrowth or Frost. I wouldn't be OK with Secret Spring and Inferno Pools remaining in the map pool one season more though.

If we look at the current map pool : Overgrowth can't decently stay, Catallena/Deadwing are bad maps AND are there for two seasons, Secret Spring and Inferno Pools are retarded beyond what can be expressed with words. Vaani and Expedition Lost may be OK, and even those maps are really far from amazing (not to mention the slow mining rate on them that fucks every build up, but anyway). At least 5 maps need to be replaced with good ones.


Replacing 5 maps would make it the more standard option, right? :D

Of course, but only because this map pool is God awful, which shouldn't have happened in the first place. If we could trust Blizzard for making competitive map pools, I think 4 maps staying and 3 maps going out each season would be great. Unfortunately they throw in completely ludicrous maps that should never even be considered for high level play (Secret Spring, I'm looking at you...).
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
March 14 2015 14:35 GMT
#1120
TSL KILLS PRIME AGAIN?
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