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SHOUTcraft Clan Wars - Season 2 - Official thread - Page 36

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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
July 06 2015 18:46 GMT
#701
Such a shame, I enjoyed a lot of the Clan Wars matches, even if the actual quality of games wasn't always the highest
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
feardragon
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States973 Posts
July 06 2015 18:50 GMT
#702
This is so frustrating to see. This was easily one of my favorite events. How disappointing to see so many teams/players unable to get their shit together to make this work.
Ok Starcraft 2 Commentator
Rehio
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1718 Posts
July 06 2015 18:51 GMT
#703
I am so incredibly annoyed at the teams that caused this to happen. Severely disappointed in Liquid in particular. =/
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
July 06 2015 18:52 GMT
#704
Really sad. I wonder if Liquid will make a statement why they never participated...
Neosteel Enthusiast
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
July 06 2015 18:55 GMT
#705
On July 07 2015 03:52 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Really sad. I wonder if Liquid will make a statement why they never participated...

Team Liquid has the excuse of all their players being in WCS at least. Still very sad to see that they didn't even participate in 1 event though.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-06 19:04:21
July 06 2015 19:04 GMT
#706
Good decision, thanks for the try though!

Really looking forward to the next project, I'm sure it will be success, just don't go too crazy .
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Adept
Profile Joined December 2009
United States472 Posts
July 06 2015 19:05 GMT
#707
Well damn, that sucks. Hope whatever else you can figure out works out better though!
"HSC casting is essentially an LR thread read aloud." -ThomasjServo
ClanWars
Profile Blog Joined February 2014
United States330 Posts
July 06 2015 19:16 GMT
#708
Just in case anyone is interested in some stats

June 2015 concurrent peaks -

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May 2015 concurrent peaks -

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April 2015 concurrent peaks -

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Youtube video stats

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Not canceling due to lack of viewers, not by a long shot.
SHOUTcraft Kings - Official account.
bartus88
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands491 Posts
July 06 2015 19:33 GMT
#709
Absolute shame this has to end. It was a really cool concept, too bad most of the teams "participating" had to ruin it. I hope you can figure something out TB.
Random master race
Rehio
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1718 Posts
July 06 2015 19:41 GMT
#710
Wherever you take Shoutcraft from here, TB, I'll be there to watch. Had a hell of a lot of fun with the Clan Wars, and so did the folks I showed it to. Really sad it's ending.

Thanks to the teams that showed up consistently and participated, it was appreciated.

Wish there was a better way to express my disappointment in the teams that didn't participate. All I can do it keep it in mind for the future, I guess. And maybe not buy that Acer chromebook. ;D
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
July 06 2015 20:14 GMT
#711
What a joke.

The sc2 scene is starving and TB brings in some much needed money... and the teams can't even be arsed to sign up and play? What on earth is that? It just boggles my mind. When you don't grasp for the straws (or in this case, quite the solid branch), you're going to go down.
ESPORTS ILLUMINATI
AprilTerran
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
United States56 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-06 20:16:59
July 06 2015 20:15 GMT
#712
On behalf on Team Ascension, I thank TotalBiscuit and MLG for hosting and supporting this awesome event and letting us participate.

I know we haven't put up great results so far, but as a semipro NA team, win or lose, these events truly provide the lifeblood for our survival, and the sustainability of the scene. It's probably not my place to say, but I'm honestly disappointed in those teams that didn't even bother signing up or looking at the calendar. If you didn't think you could participate, then just give up your spot and let a team who WANTS and NEEDS it, play.

It was an honor to play, and I hope we can give it our all again in the future!
Founder | Team .SCA, Team Ascension, Sloth E-Sports Club
HoZBlooddrop
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Italy324 Posts
July 06 2015 20:22 GMT
#713
damn this sucks... i loved watfching this
tHeScooTer
Profile Joined January 2011
Switzerland77 Posts
July 06 2015 20:23 GMT
#714
Extremely disappointed on how some teams went into this event. Its truly a shame that it to come to this in the end ...
@mYiScooTer - Head of mYinsanity Switzerland
Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
July 06 2015 20:33 GMT
#715
damn, I liked this so much, loved the weird maps...

Shame on all the teams that gave their word but didn't show up. Specially the big ones. It's not ideal but they can at least go and play the map even if they never practiced on it, so WCS is not a valid excuse.
Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-06 20:36:36
July 06 2015 20:36 GMT
#716
I'm sad as I never missed a single Clan War as I love it dearly. But at the same time I can't say I'm surprised by this either. It's a shame that all the hard work TB puts in isn't reciprocated by the teams.
Massive fan of Axiom eSports | Crotale#992 | Twitter: @Crot4le
CashForSanity
Profile Joined June 2015
22 Posts
July 06 2015 20:39 GMT
#717
On July 07 2015 05:14 nkr wrote:
What a joke.

The sc2 scene is starving and TB brings in some much needed money... and the teams can't even be arsed to sign up and play? What on earth is that? It just boggles my mind. When you don't grasp for the straws (or in this case, quite the solid branch), you're going to go down.


It reminds me of an old job that I had.

Basically, I'd tell people about it in general terms, and they'd decide that it was easy money and give it a go, and they would fail miserably.

They would fail because they didn't approach it like a job. They approached it like a hobby that they could just do this one main thing and then sit back and watch the money roll in. They didn't understand that it wasn't just posting one or two things, it was researching what people wanted to see and hear, developing relationships with individuals, keeping an eye on tech news to figure out if some new toy was going to revolutionize or destroy the entire industry.

They were myopic and sloppy, and always failed as a result.

If you don't have that business mentality constantly at the forefront of all of your decision-making, things just turn into a giant mess of crap and failure.

People play SC2 for league prestige and some cash. They care about rankings.

Thinking in terms of industry strategy, brand growth, personal exposure, developing a fanbase - these things don't appear to be a part of the internal calculus of (most of) the teams.

Ascension clearly gets it. Or AprilTerran does anyways.

I'm sure he's perfectly sincere, but making that post is still a giant-ass flag going "WHEE! FAN RAPPORT! COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT!" and for the sake of two minutes making a post, the entire Ascension brand now looks like a goddamn class act that's paying attention (i.e. at the very least, checking the thread of a pseudo-league they're signed up for) and shares the same passions as the viewbase.

I'm not entirely sure where I was going with this. Meh.
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
July 06 2015 20:43 GMT
#718
Sad news but understandable.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
AprilTerran
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
United States56 Posts
July 06 2015 21:01 GMT
#719
On July 07 2015 05:39 CashForSanity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 05:14 nkr wrote:
What a joke.

The sc2 scene is starving and TB brings in some much needed money... and the teams can't even be arsed to sign up and play? What on earth is that? It just boggles my mind. When you don't grasp for the straws (or in this case, quite the solid branch), you're going to go down.


It reminds me of an old job that I had.

Basically, I'd tell people about it in general terms, and they'd decide that it was easy money and give it a go, and they would fail miserably.

They would fail because they didn't approach it like a job. They approached it like a hobby that they could just do this one main thing and then sit back and watch the money roll in. They didn't understand that it wasn't just posting one or two things, it was researching what people wanted to see and hear, developing relationships with individuals, keeping an eye on tech news to figure out if some new toy was going to revolutionize or destroy the entire industry.

They were myopic and sloppy, and always failed as a result.

If you don't have that business mentality constantly at the forefront of all of your decision-making, things just turn into a giant mess of crap and failure.

People play SC2 for league prestige and some cash. They care about rankings.

Thinking in terms of industry strategy, brand growth, personal exposure, developing a fanbase - these things don't appear to be a part of the internal calculus of (most of) the teams.

Ascension clearly gets it. Or AprilTerran does anyways.

I'm sure he's perfectly sincere, but making that post is still a giant-ass flag going "WHEE! FAN RAPPORT! COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT!" and for the sake of two minutes making a post, the entire Ascension brand now looks like a goddamn class act that's paying attention (i.e. at the very least, checking the thread of a pseudo-league they're signed up for) and shares the same passions as the viewbase.

I'm not entirely sure where I was going with this. Meh.



Haha I think I see where you were going! Take it how you will, but personally, having started literally as a bronze "clan" 5 years ago, participating in this SHOUTcraft has been our most prestigious achievement so far. Forget the exposure and promotion for a minute, I truly valued this event because of what it represented for the scene. SC2 isn't dying by any means, but it relies on these events to keep a base level of operation. I really hope something like this can happen again in the near future.
Founder | Team .SCA, Team Ascension, Sloth E-Sports Club
Strela
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands1896 Posts
July 06 2015 21:47 GMT
#720
On July 07 2015 05:14 nkr wrote:
What a joke.

The sc2 scene is starving and TB brings in some much needed money... and the teams can't even be arsed to sign up and play? What on earth is that? It just boggles my mind. When you don't grasp for the straws (or in this case, quite the solid branch), you're going to go down.

sc2 is on the third place of prize money awarded, that is not starving.
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