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SHOUTcraft Clan Wars - Season 2 - Official thread - Page 38

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Zax19
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Czech Republic1136 Posts
July 07 2015 17:29 GMT
#741
Oh well. Thanks for trying to make it work
Really Blizz, really? - Darnell
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-08 03:46:00
July 08 2015 03:45 GMT
#742
On July 08 2015 02:10 killerm12 wrote:
Show nested quote +

but that's his point. skill as a pro sc2 player IS skill at succeeding on relevant maps with relevant styles. fans push for what they think is new and exciting because it's fun in theory to watch, but it's to the viewer's benefit, not the players. pro sc2 is a job and impressing fans by succeeding on showy, gimmicky maps isn't advancing their careers in the way they'd probably like. this tired argument that "it's showing your skill at adaptability!" doesn't add up to a strong motivation, it's just fans trying to rationalize why players should want to do what the viewers want to see

the stephen hawking comparison is totally ludicrous on many levels, and i think you know that. no one is objectively right or wrong about the appeal of goofy maps, it's just a matter of return on an investment of time and effort, and the players aren't attracted to the return


but if progamers don't wanna do what fans want them to do then soon enough they will have nobody and nothing to play for...players and teams should remember that they are here for fans and thanks to the fans...without fans there would be no SC2 scene

so if fans wanna watch their favourite players play on a gimmicky maps once in a while players should sacrifice those 30 minutes of practice to at least check the map and have the decency to show up for, and this is very important to point out,
PAID event.

i think plenty of fans still just want to see players play excellent standard games. the popularity of korean SC2 proves that in itself. you're presenting a false dilemma where either players "do what fans want" or train for proper standard games. they can do both by doing one
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LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
July 08 2015 19:20 GMT
#743
Is axiom vs yoe happening?
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
ClanWars
Profile Blog Joined February 2014
United States330 Posts
July 08 2015 19:42 GMT
#744
On July 09 2015 04:20 LongShot27 wrote:
Is axiom vs yoe happening?


Late roster submission from Yoe lead to us rescheduling the event, it will now happen on the 23rd
SHOUTcraft Kings - Official account.
Discardious
Profile Joined July 2015
1 Post
July 09 2015 00:19 GMT
#745
Thanks for not providing information as to this shitty turn of events. Was a lot of fun staying up till 2am for a match that never happened (again).

I know this might be difficult but it would be goddamn sensible if you could provide cancellation notices of matches in advance and in easier to reach places!
The only way to know this recent match was a flop was to find it here, talk about fucking obscure. It makes me believe that who ever is running this event, couldn't give 2 squig shits about it.

Either TB should post on his twitter that the match has been cancelled (asap!) or update the teamliquid page, a forum post does not suffice!
Come on now, this entire season has been disappointing but the shear lack of communication to the fans is what frustrates me the most :\
ClanWars
Profile Blog Joined February 2014
United States330 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-09 02:27:16
July 09 2015 01:17 GMT
#746
edit: not worth it
SHOUTcraft Kings - Official account.
Meavis
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Netherlands1300 Posts
July 09 2015 07:46 GMT
#747
On July 09 2015 09:19 Discardious wrote:
Thanks for not providing information as to this shitty turn of events. Was a lot of fun staying up till 2am for a match that never happened (again).

I know this might be difficult but it would be goddamn sensible if you could provide cancellation notices of matches in advance and in easier to reach places!
The only way to know this recent match was a flop was to find it here, talk about fucking obscure. It makes me believe that who ever is running this event, couldn't give 2 squig shits about it.

Either TB should post on his twitter that the match has been cancelled (asap!) or update the teamliquid page, a forum post does not suffice!
Come on now, this entire season has been disappointing but the shear lack of communication to the fans is what frustrates me the most :\


Yeah, why didn't he just look in his crystal ball to see the players would not show up
"Not you."
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-09 08:03:20
July 09 2015 08:02 GMT
#748
On July 09 2015 09:19 Discardious wrote:
Thanks for not providing information as to this shitty turn of events. Was a lot of fun staying up till 2am for a match that never happened (again).

I know this might be difficult but it would be goddamn sensible if you could provide cancellation notices of matches in advance and in easier to reach places!
The only way to know this recent match was a flop was to find it here, talk about fucking obscure. It makes me believe that who ever is running this event, couldn't give 2 squig shits about it.

Either TB should post on his twitter that the match has been cancelled (asap!) or update the teamliquid page, a forum post does not suffice!
Come on now, this entire season has been disappointing but the shear lack of communication to the fans is what frustrates me the most :\


It's the official thread... Why wouldn't he post here ?
On July 09 2015 10:17 ClanWars wrote:
edit: not worth it


I'm proud of you
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
CashForSanity
Profile Joined June 2015
22 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-09 08:32:19
July 09 2015 08:32 GMT
#749
I'm not. One way or another, I want to see two guys going at each other, and if I can't get it from Clan Wars, I wanna see TB turn detractor-baiting into a sport.

C'z otherwise, it's just back to tranny porn.
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
July 09 2015 09:07 GMT
#750
On July 09 2015 17:32 CashForSanity wrote:
I'm not. One way or another, I want to see two guys going at each other, and if I can't get it from Clan Wars, I wanna see TB turn detractor-baiting into a sport.

C'z otherwise, it's just back to tranny porn.


Dafuck ?
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
ClanWars
Profile Blog Joined February 2014
United States330 Posts
July 11 2015 17:50 GMT
#751
Broadcast is live - http://mlg.tv/shoutcraft
SHOUTcraft Kings - Official account.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55593 Posts
July 11 2015 18:21 GMT
#752
He killed the cannon
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
July 11 2015 18:23 GMT
#753
noooo RIP cannon

PS: this is not in the Events sidebar... I submitted it but it got rejected I think O.o
CashForSanity
Profile Joined June 2015
22 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-11 21:30:04
July 11 2015 21:28 GMT
#754
Loving the improvised probe stealthing.
Ve5pa
Profile Joined December 2014
United Kingdom252 Posts
July 13 2015 13:41 GMT
#755
What a shame on all levels.

A massive thanks to TB, MLG and all the teams that stood by their word and showed up. To those that didn't show up I hope you realise that you've let a lot of the community down. Posting excuses like well the maps didn't fit in with my practice style is lame. Very lame, if Kespa, pro league teams con do it then surely you can too. All teams that did sign up should have spoken to their players and explained what was required, if they couldn't commit then they shouldn't have signed up. Simple as that.

As a fan of the Shoutcrat series I hope that you bare this in mind when inviting players for your next project TB, keep up the good work!
Kimb3r
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany744 Posts
July 13 2015 13:49 GMT
#756
What happened?
Maru | Dark | Zest | Reynor | Scarlett
Meavis
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Netherlands1300 Posts
July 13 2015 13:59 GMT
#757
teams failed to sign/show up or players went missing resulting in multiple scheduling issues.

TB got fed up with it and closes clan wars in its current form but is looking for alternative options.
"Not you."
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
July 13 2015 14:03 GMT
#758
why did you stop to announce the upcoming matches and lineup in the op?
LiquipediaWe will have only each other at the last
ClanWars
Profile Blog Joined February 2014
United States330 Posts
July 13 2015 14:31 GMT
#759
On July 13 2015 23:03 Yhamm wrote:
why did you stop to announce the upcoming matches and lineup in the op?


easier not to when I can't trust the teams not to change them or cancel at the last minute.
SHOUTcraft Kings - Official account.
Ve5pa
Profile Joined December 2014
United Kingdom252 Posts
July 13 2015 15:13 GMT
#760
Is Prime vs EG later on tonight likely to happen at this point? I know both of these teams have previously played in this series so I would hope so. They don't seem the sort to let you down last minute.
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