SHOUTcraft Clan Wars - Season 2 - Official thread - Page 32

On June 23 2015 15:14 Alnydesr wrote:
Did the last clan war go so bad there won't even be a vod?

On June 25 2015 04:32 brickrd wrote:
blaming players who are young people trying to make it in an unstable field and making wild allegations like "they want fame on a silver platter" is ridiculous, i get that people are disappointed when they don't get quality local content like they're expecting but shitting on the very players you want to watch is kind of stupid

it's kids and young adults playing games in an unsteady market, not professionals abusing their clients, if you want the content to happen then stay positive and constructive instead of looking for excuses to trash people

Finally, if the changes aren't radical enough or is out of reach (for instance, perhaps the role of the ultralisk is changed, or really anything to do with carriers), what guarantee is there that the game won't be played out standard? Late game units are particularly susceptible at being left out if the game closes out early with a timing attack. If a game goes standard without showcasing what it's supposed to, that kills the point of testing design changes, no?

And I still don't really get the argument why progamers would or should play these maps out of passion

On June 26 2015 20:10 Hider wrote:


So the worst case scenario you bring up is that we get a normal Sc2 game. Doesn't sound that awfull to me. And that's only relevant if the mod changes only contain late game changes (e.g. to Ultralisk).

What if we are talking about 0 damage point to all ranged units. That would make every game different. Or protoss gets a strong core composition without relying on force fields. That would make every protoss game different as well.

With regards to "only care about winning", I think that if you make some changes to a specific composition that require adaption from the opponent (e.g. changes to mech), then a lesser skilled player will be able to practice mech a lot on this mod before the CW and if he goes up against a crazy korean mechanical god, he will have a better chance than if he played straight up bio/normal sc2 style. Thus, I find it very likely that a high percentage of games will contain new stuff.



Your missing my point here. I am trying to look at the advantages that these crazy maps bring. What is their purpose? I then looked at it from the perspective of viewers, "hardcore community" and players and I couldn't see it benefit either target group.

With regards to passion, my point was that if these maps were made to make it more fun for players, then more players would play the maps. And yes pro players do not only do stuff that increases their probability of being relevant in the Sc2 scene. Hence why many play other games like Hearthstone and MOBA's. The same simply isn't the case for these maps.