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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
On February 04 2015 21:28 Scythe. wrote: I think the switch option is too powerful. Innovation was able to make life miserable for two big title contenders - herO and Maru. Yeah, überstupid | ||
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jekku
Canada1640 Posts
On February 04 2015 21:28 Scythe. wrote: I think the switch option is too powerful. Innovation was able to make life miserable for two big title contenders - herO and Maru. I concur. | ||
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dazed25
3566 Posts
Happy for Rain though. Barring some miraculous upsets he has an easy time in that group. | ||
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theBALLS
Singapore2935 Posts
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imre
France9263 Posts
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WGT-Baal
France3420 Posts
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
If you want it fair you should write some emails to GOM and ask for a big round robin group with all 16 players, if that's not going to happen there is little meaning to bitch about 2 players switching groups tbh. I think it adds a lot of excitement and even storyline (if they would use it) Silly to be upset about somethimg like this imo... Ok now prediction time: A: Innovation, Dark B: Life, TY C: Rogue, Solar D: Maru, herO | ||
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Ramiz1989
12124 Posts
On February 04 2015 21:00 pure.Wasted wrote: Maru = Life herO > Soulkey PartinG > TY If only things were that simple... | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On February 04 2015 22:19 The_Red_Viper wrote: People bitching about the switch option should bitch about groups and brackets in general i guess? If you want it fair you should write some emails to GOM and ask for a big round robin group with all 16 players, if that's not going to happen there is little meaning to bitch about 2 players switching groups tbh. I think it adds a lot of excitement and even storyline (if they would use it) Silly to be upset about somethimg like this imo... Ok now prediction time: A: Innovation, Dark B: Life, TY C: Rogue, Solar D: Maru, herO If you really want to add a lot of excitement and storyline, why not make players have a knife fight to decide who picks first? There's a reason seeds exist. There's a reason INno, Maru, Rain and Life got asked to choose first and not Terminator, MMA, YoDa and MC. It's precisely to limit (not avoid, because you can't, but limit) bracket luck/groups of death. Here GOM gave INnoVation an opportunity to troll and lower the chances of two/three of his most direct rivals for the title to win. It's not silly. I mean creating excitement and hype and all is good. But not when it is done at the expense of fairness and equality. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
In general players picking the groups is "unfair". Why don't you criticize that? Sry, but i don't see why this is that big of a deal, you either practice for your group and advance, or you aren't good enough and fail. The only thing i would like to see changing is the gsl group system, that shit is unfair... | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
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Scythe.
Poland261 Posts
On February 04 2015 22:37 The_Red_Viper wrote: The only thing i would like to see changing is the gsl group system, that shit is unfair... It is unfair but adds a lot of excitement and even storyline (if they would use it). | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On February 04 2015 22:42 Scythe. wrote: It is unfair but adds a lot of excitement and even storyline (if they would use it). I actually don't think it adds excitement and storyline at all. In a round robin you can have crazy tie breakers (like in the current SSL), that shit is exciting. But yeah nice try  On February 04 2015 22:41 OtherWorld wrote: Players picking the groups is indeed unfair to some extent, but at least it only gives one player the option of picking the opponent is better for him and only for him, so at least it's not "oh hey, let's lower this player chances of qualifying, 'cuz I don't like him". The switch option is precisely that, a trollish way to fuck up others' chances to win (and since it was given only to the current Code S champion, it's a rich gets richer system as well). I mean i can understand where you are coming from, i just think players picking their groups and the group system in general is a way bigger deal. | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On February 04 2015 22:51 The_Red_Viper wrote: I actually don't think it adds excitement and storyline at all. In a round robin you can have crazy tie breakers (like in the current SSL), that shit is exciting. But yeah nice try But in GSL style you are not dependant on other people's results, while in RR you can be. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On February 04 2015 22:54 OtherWorld wrote: But in GSL style you are not dependant on other people's results, while in RR you can be. That's not true at all. In GSL style you can have a bad first matchup, go into losers, win there vs a lesser player and in the deciding match you get your first opponent again. Now you lose vs the same person two times and are out. You are in fact highly dependant on the other people's results. In round robin you play vs every other opponent and have full controll | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On February 04 2015 22:51 The_Red_Viper wrote: I actually don't think it adds excitement and storyline at all. In a round robin you can have crazy tie breakers (like in the current SSL), that shit is exciting. But yeah nice try I mean i can understand where you are coming from, i just think players picking their groups and the group system in general is a way bigger deal. Well yeah but players picking their groups and the group system is an long-established GOM tradition, thus it is less useful to complain about it than the switch option that is newly introduced. I mean if GOM had made its free Low quality bullshit since the beginning, few people would complain as well. | ||
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FatCat_13
Russian Federation117 Posts
Group A: Terminator, MMA Group B: YoDa, TY Group C: Dream, Solar Group D: MC, Maru no drama... | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On February 04 2015 22:58 The_Red_Viper wrote: That's not true at all. In GSL style you can have a bad first matchup, go into losers, win there vs a lesser player and in the deciding match you get your first opponent again. Now you lose vs the same person two times and are out. You are in fact highly dependant on the other people's results. In round robin you play vs every other opponent and have full controll I dunno, I dislike RR because things like Naniwa vs Nestea can happen. But well, I think the RR vs GSL argument is an unending one. | ||
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
On February 04 2015 22:54 OtherWorld wrote: But in GSL style you are not dependant on other people's results No, you are heavily dependent on others as well. The outcome of some groups would be radically different with just one different result in one of the initial matches | ||
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RaFox17
Finland4581 Posts
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