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Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-09 03:09:07
January 09 2015 03:06 GMT
#541
On January 09 2015 11:59 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 11:51 coL.hendralisk wrote:
On January 09 2015 11:49 Larkin wrote:
On January 09 2015 11:48 coL.hendralisk wrote:
unless ur a top player worldwide


So... unless you're better than your opponent? Isn't that how it should be, that the better player wins?


I've been inactive since september but I do check results here and there. The vast majority of tournaments have very little zerg presence as a whole..

T/P have abusive openers (greedy while safe which zerg cannot do to that effect -> some timing (hellbats/immortals) and better units than before as the game goes on. I don't really mind because I am zerg and it just means I have to try harder but it's a bit discouraging to see

So is there anything balance-wise we can do or does it come down to pure design?

Nerf hellbats and immortals

I do think reducing the shields on immortals by about 20-30 would be a very good change, as Immortals have this "immortal" feeling to them, where using them in combination with a warp prism (drop) or sentries makes them insanely difficult to kill, no matter what the Zerg does.

As for hellbats, I think the early hellbat pushes are quite powerful, mostly due to how insanely tanky they are for an early-game 100% mineral unit. In addition, they can be healed by medivacs. If they had the same HP as a hellion (90 instead of 135), then they wouldn't be nearly as obnoxious, and the hellbat + marauder + medivac pushes would be a fair bit easier to manage. Of course, it's also annoying that hellbats counter lings about as hard as phoenix counter mutalisks.

And yes, I think warp-ins are rather lame design, and allow Protoss to easily switch between aggression and macro. I always thought it'd be sort of cool if the further the units were warped in, the longer the cooldown on the gateways were. That way, there's some actual downside to aggressive warp-ins...

And oops, sorry for balance/unit change discussion in qualifier thread :D
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-09 03:08:23
January 09 2015 03:08 GMT
#542
looks like puck is in, congratulations to him
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
January 09 2015 03:09 GMT
#543
ROOT players in Challenger: 0
EG players in Challenger: 0
F3 players in Challenger: 2
The world is better when every background has a chance.
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
January 09 2015 03:09 GMT
#544
On January 09 2015 12:09 Circumstance wrote:
ROOT players in Challenger: 0
EG players in Challenger: 0
F3 players in Challenger: 2

I suspect Masa will beat Xeno here, making it 1; 0; 2
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
January 09 2015 03:10 GMT
#545
On January 09 2015 12:09 Blargh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 12:09 Circumstance wrote:
ROOT players in Challenger: 0
EG players in Challenger: 0
F3 players in Challenger: 2

I suspect Masa will beat Xeno here, making it 1; 0; 2

Actually, that would be 2 if Masa wins, since I forgot Hydra was part of ROOT.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2722 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-09 03:11:13
January 09 2015 03:10 GMT
#546
On January 09 2015 12:09 Circumstance wrote:
ROOT players in Challenger: 0
EG players in Challenger: 0
F3 players in Challenger: 2

well Masa vs Xenocider is going on now so there will be at least 1 NA ROOT/EG player. And ROOTAstrea might also make it.
very illegal and very uncool
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
January 09 2015 03:12 GMT
#547
if Xeno gets better at being solid at home while doing this kinda thing he'd be really fearsome
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2722 Posts
January 09 2015 03:13 GMT
#548
Libo Shaman won!
very illegal and very uncool
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
January 09 2015 03:14 GMT
#549
Apparently, EJK and Guitarcheese are waiting to resolve an internet issue before proceeding with their third game.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
mikumegurine
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada3145 Posts
January 09 2015 03:14 GMT
#550
who is EJK?

has a korean flag in the liquidpedia bracket
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
January 09 2015 03:15 GMT
#551
On January 09 2015 12:14 mikumegurine wrote:
who is EJK?

has a korean flag in the liquidpedia bracket

Korean-American, used to be on Core, now plays for Boreal, a little Canadian team.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
January 09 2015 03:16 GMT
#552
Kane will beat Polt
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
mikumegurine
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada3145 Posts
January 09 2015 03:17 GMT
#553
On January 09 2015 12:15 Circumstance wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 12:14 mikumegurine wrote:
who is EJK?

has a korean flag in the liquidpedia bracket

Korean-American, used to be on Core, now plays for Boreal, a little Canadian team.


hmm so sorta like Masa, korean-canadian?

interesting...beating some good players..
Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2665 Posts
January 09 2015 03:21 GMT
#554
On January 09 2015 12:17 mikumegurine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 12:15 Circumstance wrote:
On January 09 2015 12:14 mikumegurine wrote:
who is EJK?

has a korean flag in the liquidpedia bracket

Korean-American, used to be on Core, now plays for Boreal, a little Canadian team.


hmm so sorta like Masa, korean-canadian?

interesting...beating some good players..


He does really good videos about terran strategy, just search in the strategy section here in TL
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
January 09 2015 03:32 GMT
#555
Masa's pulling Xeno apart.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
kaykoose
Profile Joined February 2014
United States2302 Posts
January 09 2015 03:32 GMT
#556
meh. wanted Xeno to win
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
January 09 2015 03:32 GMT
#557
Ouch, that last Masa vs Xeno game wasn't (isn't) very close. Masa is playing really well now, though! Glad to see him make it.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
January 09 2015 03:33 GMT
#558
Good job Masa I'm happy for you
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
mikumegurine
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada3145 Posts
January 09 2015 03:35 GMT
#559
wowow Canada
Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2665 Posts
January 09 2015 03:35 GMT
#560
Dammit Xeno, stop throwing so hard, just because you're from USA doesn't mean you can play this like its baseball
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