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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
November 16 2014 14:15 GMT
#581
On November 16 2014 23:14 OtherWorld wrote:
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On November 16 2014 23:13 Ej_ wrote:
On November 16 2014 23:12 OtherWorld wrote:
On November 16 2014 23:10 Alchemik wrote:
On November 16 2014 23:07 TheDwf wrote:
On November 16 2014 23:01 Alchemik wrote:
On November 16 2014 22:59 TheDwf wrote:
On November 16 2014 22:57 Symbioth wrote:
11/11 is just so insanely strong, it's hard for me to understand why nothing has ever been done about this build. It's just way too strong.

Care to tell us why it's only played 7-8% of the time in TvZ pro games then?

And same question for all the "mech TvZ is broken" folks.

actually those questions aren't very smart

like, I'm not saying 2 rax is broken, I don't think it is, but it's just impossible to play it all the time (unless you're Maru, I guess), because Zergs could blind counter it

Ah? So there's a blind counter? What is it?

prolly a blind 10 pool, which is awful against everything else

Isn't 14/14 the legit blind counter to 2rax?

soO vs INnoVation, Snute vs Flash. Probably some other games that prove otherwise

Well yeah obviously you have not to fuck up totally with your 14/14, just like you can fuck up any build even if it's a BO win

well yeah if the best zerg on the planet doesn't get a win with a hard counter, I don't know who does
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Tanzklaue
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany1414 Posts
November 16 2014 14:15 GMT
#582
IT'S TAEJA TIME!
PappaNappa
Profile Joined November 2014
52 Posts
November 16 2014 14:16 GMT
#583
Gogogo Hyun!!! Give me some fanboytears
SuperHofmann
Profile Joined September 2013
Italy1741 Posts
November 16 2014 14:16 GMT
#584
I hope taeja lose
Vasacast always in my <3
Starecat
Profile Joined August 2014
939 Posts
November 16 2014 14:16 GMT
#585
0 EPS

Shitty players
:3
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
November 16 2014 14:17 GMT
#586
On November 16 2014 23:16 SuperHofmann wrote:
I hope taeja lose

Me to, though I don't want Hyun to win really either. But ya anyone but Taeja.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
November 16 2014 14:17 GMT
#587
On November 16 2014 23:14 SoulmaN__ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2014 23:07 TheDwf wrote:
On November 16 2014 23:01 Alchemik wrote:
On November 16 2014 22:59 TheDwf wrote:
On November 16 2014 22:57 Symbioth wrote:
11/11 is just so insanely strong, it's hard for me to understand why nothing has ever been done about this build. It's just way too strong.

Care to tell us why it's only played 7-8% of the time in TvZ pro games then?

And same question for all the "mech TvZ is broken" folks.

actually those questions aren't very smart

like, I'm not saying 2 rax is broken, I don't think it is, but it's just impossible to play it all the time (unless you're Maru, I guess), because Zergs could blind counter it

Ah? So there's a blind counter? What is it?

On November 16 2014 23:01 SoulmaN__ wrote:
On November 16 2014 22:54 TheDwf wrote:
On November 16 2014 22:48 KingAlphard wrote:
On November 16 2014 22:45 pigmanbear wrote:
On November 16 2014 22:45 KingAlphard wrote:
On November 16 2014 22:43 TheDwf wrote:
On November 16 2014 22:40 KingAlphard wrote:
Really, I keep not understanding why progamers don't do 11/11 every single game since not even 14/14 beats it. Can someone explain?

Maybe because it's not a freewin like you think?


I never seen it fail in any tournament I watched in the last months. Or could you link a vod if I'm wrong because even though I don't play zerg I'm curious to see how you beat it?

You beat it the same way as ever, by pulling enough drones to crush the attack early.


Thanks but I would really like a VOD. They told me to do so as a protoss too and the result is always that you lose 10 workers to kill 2 marines and a scv and then you have no economy.

Are you seriously complaining about 2 rax TvP? Like... For real?

For VODs, why not start by jjakji vs LosirA on Merry from this very tournament? Literally can't remember the last time a 2 rax was beaten in TvZ! Well, it was 2 days ago... You can also watch TaeJa vs soO on Overgrowth from Blizzcon, TY vs Dark on Deadwing from WECG Korea, Journey vs Impact (Merry) from OlimoLeague #9, Center vs Life (Merry) from 32 Boys 1 Cup KR qualifiers, etc., etc.


Losira vs. Jjakji is a really bad example, because Jjakji didn't build them proxy, but outside of his natural, so the rush distance was actually insane.

Lol. Yeah, welcome to modern 2 rax...

soO vs. Taeja, Taeja was ahead after the 2 rax by a lot, soO just entered godmode and dragged the game on for 30 minutes while almost winning.

Hilarious description of what actually happened. soO blocked the attack extremely easily (at which point TaeJa is certainly not ahead) until he blundered 2 Queens and 15 lings for no valid reason. After that he was so behind that... he had a macro game despite going for a bane bust that did so little.


If soO wouldn't have chase the marines he would have had to build more and more zerglings or a ton of spines to not die to pure marine. And you can't deny that Taeja would have been at least even because he would have gone into double CC yolo swag mode and would have been in a better position than soO.

TaeJa would have been in a better position had soO built one Spine ("a ton of Spines" ... lol...) instead of giving 2 Queens and 15 lings. OK. You have seriously no idea what you're talking about.
Tanzklaue
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany1414 Posts
November 16 2014 14:17 GMT
#588
On November 16 2014 23:16 PappaNappa wrote:
Gogogo Hyun!!! Give me some fanboytears

i think tempalr and i are the only taeja fans in this thread currently, at least i don't see anyone else telling flash fanboys that it will prolly not be a cakewalk for flash.
SoulmaN__
Profile Joined October 2014
Germany80 Posts
November 16 2014 14:18 GMT
#589
10 pool is a build order loss against 2 rax if the terran knows what to do, which is wall your natural and send like 3 marines home.

the best "counter" is pool first without gas, because your hatch might barely have enough hitpoints to survive long enough so you can get spines and queens up, while you have zerglings out early enough to repel the initial marines.

However, the terran has to play against pool first the very first time for that to work out.
"I love my family." - soO after his 4th consecutive loss in a GSL final :-(
PappaNappa
Profile Joined November 2014
52 Posts
November 16 2014 14:18 GMT
#590
I hope we get games today without Incontrol/Destiny/QXC casting. All of them are sooo annoying -.-
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
November 16 2014 14:19 GMT
#591
On November 16 2014 23:17 Tanzklaue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2014 23:16 PappaNappa wrote:
Gogogo Hyun!!! Give me some fanboytears

i think tempalr and i are the only taeja fans in this thread currently, at least i don't see anyone else telling flash fanboys that it will prolly not be a cakewalk for flash.

Seems like this thread doesn't have that many TaeJa fans, yeah. And I don't have tears when my players lose, so HyuN fans and TaeJa anti-fans will be disappointed anyway
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
November 16 2014 14:19 GMT
#592
On November 16 2014 23:18 PappaNappa wrote:
I hope we get games today without Incontrol/Destiny/QXC casting. All of them are sooo annoying -.-

Better them than some socially awkward progamer or a korean who doesn't speak much english.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
November 16 2014 14:20 GMT
#593
On November 16 2014 23:19 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2014 23:17 Tanzklaue wrote:
On November 16 2014 23:16 PappaNappa wrote:
Gogogo Hyun!!! Give me some fanboytears

i think tempalr and i are the only taeja fans in this thread currently, at least i don't see anyone else telling flash fanboys that it will prolly not be a cakewalk for flash.

Seems like this thread doesn't have that many TaeJa fans, yeah. And I don't have tears when my players lose, so HyuN fans and TaeJa anti-fans will be disappointed anyway

Bullshit, you were crying like a baby when Taeja lost at Blizzcon.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Tanzklaue
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany1414 Posts
November 16 2014 14:20 GMT
#594
well.

that's unfortunate for hyun.
Tanzklaue
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany1414 Posts
November 16 2014 14:21 GMT
#595
that was a pretty good defense by hyun.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
November 16 2014 14:21 GMT
#596
On November 16 2014 23:20 Tanzklaue wrote:
well.

that's unfortunate for hyun.

???
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
November 16 2014 14:21 GMT
#597
On November 16 2014 23:20 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2014 23:19 The_Templar wrote:
On November 16 2014 23:17 Tanzklaue wrote:
On November 16 2014 23:16 PappaNappa wrote:
Gogogo Hyun!!! Give me some fanboytears

i think tempalr and i are the only taeja fans in this thread currently, at least i don't see anyone else telling flash fanboys that it will prolly not be a cakewalk for flash.

Seems like this thread doesn't have that many TaeJa fans, yeah. And I don't have tears when my players lose, so HyuN fans and TaeJa anti-fans will be disappointed anyway

Bullshit, you were crying like a baby when Taeja lost at Blizzcon.

Fair enough. I usually don't have tears ^^
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
November 16 2014 14:21 GMT
#598
Hyun is just too good for Taeja.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
November 16 2014 14:21 GMT
#599
Why is HyuN always allowed to play with these annoying ling skins?
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Tanzklaue
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany1414 Posts
November 16 2014 14:21 GMT
#600
On November 16 2014 23:21 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2014 23:20 Tanzklaue wrote:
well.

that's unfortunate for hyun.

???

the lings didn't see the medivac.

he did the right thing anyway, but it might've tipped him off.
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