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SFDuality
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1318 Posts
November 02 2014 04:37 GMT
#10321
On November 02 2014 13:35 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 13:35 hansonslee wrote:
On November 02 2014 13:33 Deathstar wrote:
On November 02 2014 13:32 Cheren wrote:
Who wouldn't give that 5 stars? I'm rooting for soO and that was an amazing game.


that wasnt really 5 stars worthy...


imo anyway


Well, you would be surprised how deluded TaeJa fans are ;P

Why are we deluded? ...

Fanboy logic. Anyone who likes a player that you don't is either deluded or stupid.
hansonslee
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States2027 Posts
November 02 2014 04:37 GMT
#10322
On November 02 2014 13:35 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 13:35 hansonslee wrote:
On November 02 2014 13:33 Deathstar wrote:
On November 02 2014 13:32 Cheren wrote:
Who wouldn't give that 5 stars? I'm rooting for soO and that was an amazing game.


that wasnt really 5 stars worthy...


imo anyway


Well, you would be surprised how deluded TaeJa fans are ;P

Why are we deluded? ...


imo, I think TaeJa is overrated... He's really solid, but I really find it disagreeable when people say he's the "best: especially when TaeJa wins an international tournament.
Seed's # 1 fan!!! #ForVengeance
Cheren
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States2911 Posts
November 02 2014 04:37 GMT
#10323
On November 02 2014 13:36 cpower wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 13:34 Chill Penguin wrote:
On November 02 2014 13:32 Ryncol wrote:
=\ Taeja wins an incredible game and Artosis gushes about soO


Artosis's Kespa player bias is really starting to get on my nerves. Same thing happened in the Life vs Zest series.

no he said if you put taeja in kepsa he instantly becomes a contender. i think he is right, taeja is the only one outside of korea is able to do that.


Eh, I don't think Taeja did that well in Proleague. GSL he got Ro4 in, but then you have to include Bomber as well.
Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
November 02 2014 04:37 GMT
#10324
oh i love banshee
-Terran-
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
November 02 2014 04:37 GMT
#10325
On November 02 2014 13:36 cpower wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 13:34 Chill Penguin wrote:
On November 02 2014 13:32 Ryncol wrote:
=\ Taeja wins an incredible game and Artosis gushes about soO


Artosis's Kespa player bias is really starting to get on my nerves. Same thing happened in the Life vs Zest series.

no he said if you put taeja in kepsa he instantly becomes a contender. i think he is right, taeja is the only one outside of korea is able to do that.


Taeja doesnt work in Kespa. Nazgul said so. Coach Park said so. He's an outlier. He just doesnt work in that system.

I think Bomber has proved he can play against the best of Kespa and come out on top too.
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PinheadXXXXXX
Profile Joined February 2012
United States897 Posts
November 02 2014 04:37 GMT
#10326
On November 02 2014 13:36 cpower wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 13:34 Chill Penguin wrote:
On November 02 2014 13:32 Ryncol wrote:
=\ Taeja wins an incredible game and Artosis gushes about soO


Artosis's Kespa player bias is really starting to get on my nerves. Same thing happened in the Life vs Zest series.

no he said if you put taeja in kepsa he instantly becomes a contender. i think he is right, taeja is the only one outside of korea is able to do that.

That probably isn't true as Taeja hates teamhouses apparently.
Taeja the one true Byunjwa~
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
November 02 2014 04:37 GMT
#10327
On November 02 2014 13:37 y0su wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 13:35 RaiKageRyu wrote:
One mistake. Banes into Thors and you're dead.

It wasn't one mistake. He was wasting banes all game by constantly pushing far off creep instead of just pulling back and regrouping.

Nah it was him crashing into the Thor.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
hansonslee
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States2027 Posts
November 02 2014 04:37 GMT
#10328
On November 02 2014 13:37 SFDuality wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 13:35 The_Templar wrote:
On November 02 2014 13:35 hansonslee wrote:
On November 02 2014 13:33 Deathstar wrote:
On November 02 2014 13:32 Cheren wrote:
Who wouldn't give that 5 stars? I'm rooting for soO and that was an amazing game.


that wasnt really 5 stars worthy...


imo anyway


Well, you would be surprised how deluded TaeJa fans are ;P

Why are we deluded? ...

Fanboy logic. Anyone who likes a player that you don't is either deluded or stupid.


Well, I never said that I disliked TaeJa. Nice try
Seed's # 1 fan!!! #ForVengeance
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
November 02 2014 04:38 GMT
#10329
On November 02 2014 13:35 RaiKageRyu wrote:
One mistake. Banes into Thors and you're dead.

banes into thors while taeja is establishing a gold base and killing 22(!!!) drones at the fourth and you're dead, yeah

context is pretty useful in starcraft
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Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
November 02 2014 04:38 GMT
#10330
On November 02 2014 13:37 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 13:36 stuchiu wrote:
On November 02 2014 13:34 Chill Penguin wrote:
On November 02 2014 13:32 Ryncol wrote:
=\ Taeja wins an incredible game and Artosis gushes about soO


Artosis's Kespa player bias is really starting to get on my nerves. Same thing happened in the Life vs Zest series.


Artosis just likes macro zerg players. He has always liked them. Hell he was more biased to DRG in DRG vs Flash.

is soo really a "macro player" by zerg standards? tbh i feel like i would put soo way way to the aggressive end of the spectrum if we're talking about actual top level zergs

Ehh I disagree. Any good zerg is gonna have a few types of aggression in their arsenal, it's part of the race, but soO plays sick macro games
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
November 02 2014 04:38 GMT
#10331
On November 02 2014 13:34 Chill Penguin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 13:32 Ryncol wrote:
=\ Taeja wins an incredible game and Artosis gushes about soO


Artosis's Kespa player bias is really starting to get on my nerves. Same thing happened in the Life vs Zest series.


Doesn't stop him from hyping the shit out of DRG anytime he plays.

Artosis Protoss bias >>> Kespa bias
INna Maru-da-FanTa, Bbaby, TY Dream that I'm Flashing you
Grizvok
Profile Joined August 2014
United States711 Posts
November 02 2014 04:38 GMT
#10332
On November 02 2014 13:32 PinheadXXXXXX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 13:32 butter wrote:
On November 02 2014 13:31 stefan16 wrote:
On November 02 2014 13:23 PinheadXXXXXX wrote:
On November 02 2014 13:22 stefan16 wrote:
he didnt do the pre-spread thing like bomber did?

I have never seen Taeja pre-spread. He doesn't seem to like to.


ok, I guess he does not need that. I just see that a lot lately I thought that was the easiest way to deal with baneling

Sometimes having marauders in the front line is enough

Also marine target on banelings is pretty good.


That's where Taeja's splits and micro shine. In those smaller mid-game engagements with a few medivacs with marines against and lower number of banelings. He killed straight up killed Solar with earlier pushes because of it (which is what you were mentioning).

That's where his I'm going to not move and just shift+a click every baneling is ridiculously strong. In the late game with retarded baneling numbers that style is impossible.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
November 02 2014 04:39 GMT
#10333
On November 02 2014 13:37 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 13:36 stuchiu wrote:
On November 02 2014 13:34 Chill Penguin wrote:
On November 02 2014 13:32 Ryncol wrote:
=\ Taeja wins an incredible game and Artosis gushes about soO


Artosis's Kespa player bias is really starting to get on my nerves. Same thing happened in the Life vs Zest series.


Artosis just likes macro zerg players. He has always liked them. Hell he was more biased to DRG in DRG vs Flash.

is soo really a "macro player" by zerg standards? tbh i feel like i would put soo way way to the aggressive end of the spectrum if we're talking about actual top level zergs


He is actually incredibly diverse. So it makes him harder to pin down. But he does play great macro style.
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Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
November 02 2014 04:39 GMT
#10334
if soO loses this game he doesn't deserve to be kong. Kong is a title most people would be honored to have. he'll just be irrelevant and retire
rip passion
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
November 02 2014 04:39 GMT
#10335
On November 02 2014 13:39 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 13:37 brickrd wrote:
On November 02 2014 13:36 stuchiu wrote:
On November 02 2014 13:34 Chill Penguin wrote:
On November 02 2014 13:32 Ryncol wrote:
=\ Taeja wins an incredible game and Artosis gushes about soO


Artosis's Kespa player bias is really starting to get on my nerves. Same thing happened in the Life vs Zest series.


Artosis just likes macro zerg players. He has always liked them. Hell he was more biased to DRG in DRG vs Flash.

is soo really a "macro player" by zerg standards? tbh i feel like i would put soo way way to the aggressive end of the spectrum if we're talking about actual top level zergs


He is actually incredibly diverse. So it makes him harder to pin down. But he does play great macro style.

I think he marries macro and aggressive very well together, if that makes sense.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13989 Posts
November 02 2014 04:39 GMT
#10336
i think soO lost that game moreso than taeJa won it, his poor bane engagements, that poor overextension early on, taking waay too much dmg at the fourth, full credit to taeja for an insane game though...
Chain 1 Arthalion Chain 2 Urgula Chain 3 Mululu Chain 4 Lukias
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
November 02 2014 04:40 GMT
#10337
I like soO's position going into the mid game a lot more than Taeja's. Let's see how that changes as we see some harass and engagements soon
pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
November 02 2014 04:40 GMT
#10338
On November 02 2014 13:37 hansonslee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 13:35 The_Templar wrote:
On November 02 2014 13:35 hansonslee wrote:
On November 02 2014 13:33 Deathstar wrote:
On November 02 2014 13:32 Cheren wrote:
Who wouldn't give that 5 stars? I'm rooting for soO and that was an amazing game.


that wasnt really 5 stars worthy...


imo anyway


Well, you would be surprised how deluded TaeJa fans are ;P

Why are we deluded? ...


imo, I think TaeJa is overrated... He's really solid, but I really find it disagreeable when people say he's the "best: especially when TaeJa wins an international tournament.


Who cares what he wins when he's beating soO while soO is looking like the best Zerg who's ever played SC2? Seriously.
INna Maru-da-FanTa, Bbaby, TY Dream that I'm Flashing you
VeNoM HaZ Skill
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1528 Posts
November 02 2014 04:40 GMT
#10339
On November 02 2014 13:39 Deathstar wrote:
if soO loses this game he doesn't deserve to be kong. Kong is a title most people would be honored to have. he'll just be irrelevant and retire

Brrrrrr...
#1 MMA fan! I like you too Taeja. Still patiently waiting for the Crown Prince to become the King.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
November 02 2014 04:40 GMT
#10340
On November 02 2014 13:36 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 13:33 The_Templar wrote:
      
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[image loading]TaeJa                   [image loading]soO


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Map: King Sejong Station

TaeJa spawns in the bottom right
soO spawns in the top left

2:00
soO going hatchery first against CC first.
Barracks/gas for TaeJa.
Gas/pool for soO.

3:00
Two queens for soO.
TaeJa scouting with an SCV.
Bunker at TaeJa's front.

4:00
soO getting zergling speed.
Factory for TaeJa.
TaeJa getting a second refinery.

5:00
soO poking in with an overlord.
Starport for TaeJa, which soO sees.
soO's overlord gets out.
Hellions for TaeJa.

6:00
TaeJa getting hellions.
soO getting a third base.
Lair on the way for soO.
Banshee on the way for TaeJa.
soO's overlord pokes in again and sees the tech lab on the starport.
TaeJa getting a third CC.
Stim for TaeJa.

7:00 (T)TaeJa 56 vs (Z)soO 60
Overlord sees just about everything in TaeJa's main.
Spores in soO's bases.
Two engineering bays for TaeJa.
Baneling nest on the way for soO.
Spire on the way for soO.
soO also has two evolution chambers.
+1/1 for both players.

8:00 (T)TaeJa 69 vs (Z)soO 70
TaeJa denies some creep.
Banshee gets into the main base of soO with a banshee.
Four more barracks for TaeJa.

9:00 (T)TaeJa 76 vs (Z)soO 82
Baneling speed for soO.
Mutalisks on the way for soO.
+1 flier attack for soO.

10:00 (T)TaeJa 97 vs (Z)soO 98
Combat shields on the way for TaeJa.
+2/2 for both players.
TaeJa poking onto the edge of creep.
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