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Gojira621
Profile Joined October 2010
United States374 Posts
September 14 2014 15:32 GMT
#1121
On September 15 2014 00:27 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2014 00:25 Gojira621 wrote:
The risk vs reward of a 2rax in a TvZ is very much in favor of the terran. If you manage to pull it off, which really only takes one bunker getting down in most cases, you can very simply go straight into macro mode after taking out the natural and zerg is in a very rough spot from there.

Must be why Terrans open with Reaper expand 90% of the games.



No I think most terrans arent very comfortable with cheesing like that on a regular basis so they would rather play a "safer" more "normal" style.
www.twitch.tv/Gojira621
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
September 14 2014 15:33 GMT
#1122
On September 15 2014 00:32 NaboliC wrote:
Snute is just embarrassing himself. He plays really really bad in most games I watch, and a few of them very good. But just scout with a drone when you know that a guy most likely goes 2 rax....? And also make banelingsspeed. Sometimes I wonder if someone pays Snute.

What's the point of drone scouting if you already open pool first anyway...
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 14 2014 15:33 GMT
#1123
On September 15 2014 00:32 Gojira621 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2014 00:27 TheDwf wrote:
On September 15 2014 00:25 Gojira621 wrote:
The risk vs reward of a 2rax in a TvZ is very much in favor of the terran. If you manage to pull it off, which really only takes one bunker getting down in most cases, you can very simply go straight into macro mode after taking out the natural and zerg is in a very rough spot from there.

Must be why Terrans open with Reaper expand 90% of the games.



No I think most terrans arent very comfortable with cheesing like that on a regular basis so they would rather play a "safer" more "normal" style.

And then there is Maru.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
FuRRie
Profile Joined February 2009
Belgium815 Posts
September 14 2014 15:33 GMT
#1124
On September 15 2014 00:32 NaboliC wrote:
Snute is just embarrassing himself. He plays really really bad in most games I watch, and a few of them very good. But just scout with a drone when you know that a guy most likely goes 2 rax....? And also make banelingsspeed. Sometimes I wonder if someone pays Snute.


Yeah Snute plays more bad games then good games.

He isn't even in the top 16 of WCS points

And he is nowhere near the best foreigner!

oh wait...
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10085 Posts
September 14 2014 15:34 GMT
#1125
True doesnt smile
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
September 14 2014 15:34 GMT
#1126
On September 15 2014 00:19 Yorkie wrote:


2 raxes...2 raxes everywhere


Please OGN, bring back the OSL.
Massive fan of Axiom eSports | Crotale#992 | Twitter: @Crot4le
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17683 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-14 15:34:53
September 14 2014 15:34 GMT
#1127
On September 15 2014 00:23 dravernor wrote:
If you're a good player you can defend cheese. Being a high level player means being able to play against all types of strategies, not just 'straight up' games.

yes, also not being able to defend against cheese can also show that you are actually "eco-cheesing" (being so greedy that you could easily be killed early if it was known/expected/scouted), if you consider cheesing to be not a real win then you should also consider "eco-cheesing" to be not a real win since it's actually the same thing
"Expert" mods4ever.com
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
September 14 2014 15:34 GMT
#1128
On September 15 2014 00:32 Gojira621 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2014 00:27 TheDwf wrote:
On September 15 2014 00:25 Gojira621 wrote:
The risk vs reward of a 2rax in a TvZ is very much in favor of the terran. If you manage to pull it off, which really only takes one bunker getting down in most cases, you can very simply go straight into macro mode after taking out the natural and zerg is in a very rough spot from there.

Must be why Terrans open with Reaper expand 90% of the games.



No I think most terrans arent very comfortable with cheesing like that on a regular basis so they would rather play a "safer" more "normal" style.


Boxer... Flash... MVP... MMA... Maru... do I have to start this again lol.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17683 Posts
September 14 2014 15:35 GMT
#1129
On September 15 2014 00:24 Chillidawg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2014 00:23 dravernor wrote:
If you're a good player you can defend cheese. Being a high level player means being able to play against all types of strategies, not just 'straight up' games.


Yeah, but it seems that unless the terran messes up immensely or the zerg luckely scouts it, the terran will come up on top 2 raxing anyway

so why aren't all TvZs 2 rax with over 90% win rate for terran??
"Expert" mods4ever.com
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-14 15:39:51
September 14 2014 15:35 GMT
#1130
lol, Richard keeps delivering
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
FuRRie
Profile Joined February 2009
Belgium815 Posts
September 14 2014 15:36 GMT
#1131
On September 15 2014 00:35 Die4Ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2014 00:24 Chillidawg wrote:
On September 15 2014 00:23 dravernor wrote:
If you're a good player you can defend cheese. Being a high level player means being able to play against all types of strategies, not just 'straight up' games.


Yeah, but it seems that unless the terran messes up immensely or the zerg luckely scouts it, the terran will come up on top 2 raxing anyway

so why aren't all TvZs 2 rax with over 90% win rate for terran??


You bring logic to a LR thread...

why? :p
PepsiMaxxxx
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden5452 Posts
September 14 2014 15:37 GMT
#1132
A pine of voda each. :D
Isualin
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1903 Posts
September 14 2014 15:38 GMT
#1133
"it is really really good to be undefeated at a tournament" -Apollo, Dreamhack Moscow 2014
| INnoVation | The literal god TY | ByuNjwa | LRSL when? |
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17683 Posts
September 14 2014 15:40 GMT
#1134
On September 15 2014 00:32 Gojira621 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2014 00:27 TheDwf wrote:
On September 15 2014 00:25 Gojira621 wrote:
The risk vs reward of a 2rax in a TvZ is very much in favor of the terran. If you manage to pull it off, which really only takes one bunker getting down in most cases, you can very simply go straight into macro mode after taking out the natural and zerg is in a very rough spot from there.

Must be why Terrans open with Reaper expand 90% of the games.



No I think most terrans arent very comfortable with cheesing like that on a regular basis so they would rather play a "safer" more "normal" style.

if it was as good as you say then it would be the safer and more normal style, it doesn't matter what the clock says it's safer if it wins more often and it's going to become normal if it's the best way to play, but it only actually is good if you out micro the zerg
"Expert" mods4ever.com
PepsiMaxxxx
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden5452 Posts
September 14 2014 15:40 GMT
#1135
I'm pretty sure True gonna try to kill Jjakji early. His ZvT aint that good.
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-14 15:42:12
September 14 2014 15:41 GMT
#1136
The amount of talking going on in this DH plus the fact that Richard Lewis is hosting makes me feel like I'm watching a Unfiltered episode with better production.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
September 14 2014 15:42 GMT
#1137
WHAT STREAM DEAD
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
September 14 2014 15:42 GMT
#1138
On September 15 2014 00:40 Die4Ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2014 00:32 Gojira621 wrote:
On September 15 2014 00:27 TheDwf wrote:
On September 15 2014 00:25 Gojira621 wrote:
The risk vs reward of a 2rax in a TvZ is very much in favor of the terran. If you manage to pull it off, which really only takes one bunker getting down in most cases, you can very simply go straight into macro mode after taking out the natural and zerg is in a very rough spot from there.

Must be why Terrans open with Reaper expand 90% of the games.



No I think most terrans arent very comfortable with cheesing like that on a regular basis so they would rather play a "safer" more "normal" style.

if it was as good as you say then it would be the safer and more normal style, it doesn't matter what the clock says it's safer if it wins more often and it's going to become normal if it's the best way to play, but it only actually is good if you out micro the zerg


Well if it was to become the normal style, zerg's normal style would change to 10 pool, so Terrans would switch back to 1 rax CC and so on and so on.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Trasko
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden983 Posts
September 14 2014 15:42 GMT
#1139
Kapparino. did anyone else lose the stream?
Jaedong <3
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28494 Posts
September 14 2014 15:42 GMT
#1140
Stream black but chat going crazy so it's not me
I Protoss winner, could it be?
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