On September 15 2014 00:25 Gojira621 wrote: The risk vs reward of a 2rax in a TvZ is very much in favor of the terran. If you manage to pull it off, which really only takes one bunker getting down in most cases, you can very simply go straight into macro mode after taking out the natural and zerg is in a very rough spot from there.
Must be why Terrans open with Reaper expand 90% of the games.
No I think most terrans arent very comfortable with cheesing like that on a regular basis so they would rather play a "safer" more "normal" style.
On September 15 2014 00:32 NaboliC wrote: Snute is just embarrassing himself. He plays really really bad in most games I watch, and a few of them very good. But just scout with a drone when you know that a guy most likely goes 2 rax....? And also make banelingsspeed. Sometimes I wonder if someone pays Snute.
What's the point of drone scouting if you already open pool first anyway...
On September 15 2014 00:25 Gojira621 wrote: The risk vs reward of a 2rax in a TvZ is very much in favor of the terran. If you manage to pull it off, which really only takes one bunker getting down in most cases, you can very simply go straight into macro mode after taking out the natural and zerg is in a very rough spot from there.
Must be why Terrans open with Reaper expand 90% of the games.
No I think most terrans arent very comfortable with cheesing like that on a regular basis so they would rather play a "safer" more "normal" style.
On September 15 2014 00:32 NaboliC wrote: Snute is just embarrassing himself. He plays really really bad in most games I watch, and a few of them very good. But just scout with a drone when you know that a guy most likely goes 2 rax....? And also make banelingsspeed. Sometimes I wonder if someone pays Snute.
On September 15 2014 00:23 dravernor wrote: If you're a good player you can defend cheese. Being a high level player means being able to play against all types of strategies, not just 'straight up' games.
yes, also not being able to defend against cheese can also show that you are actually "eco-cheesing" (being so greedy that you could easily be killed early if it was known/expected/scouted), if you consider cheesing to be not a real win then you should also consider "eco-cheesing" to be not a real win since it's actually the same thing
On September 15 2014 00:25 Gojira621 wrote: The risk vs reward of a 2rax in a TvZ is very much in favor of the terran. If you manage to pull it off, which really only takes one bunker getting down in most cases, you can very simply go straight into macro mode after taking out the natural and zerg is in a very rough spot from there.
Must be why Terrans open with Reaper expand 90% of the games.
No I think most terrans arent very comfortable with cheesing like that on a regular basis so they would rather play a "safer" more "normal" style.
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On September 15 2014 00:23 dravernor wrote: If you're a good player you can defend cheese. Being a high level player means being able to play against all types of strategies, not just 'straight up' games.
Yeah, but it seems that unless the terran messes up immensely or the zerg luckely scouts it, the terran will come up on top 2 raxing anyway
so why aren't all TvZs 2 rax with over 90% win rate for terran??
On September 15 2014 00:23 dravernor wrote: If you're a good player you can defend cheese. Being a high level player means being able to play against all types of strategies, not just 'straight up' games.
Yeah, but it seems that unless the terran messes up immensely or the zerg luckely scouts it, the terran will come up on top 2 raxing anyway
so why aren't all TvZs 2 rax with over 90% win rate for terran??
On September 15 2014 00:25 Gojira621 wrote: The risk vs reward of a 2rax in a TvZ is very much in favor of the terran. If you manage to pull it off, which really only takes one bunker getting down in most cases, you can very simply go straight into macro mode after taking out the natural and zerg is in a very rough spot from there.
Must be why Terrans open with Reaper expand 90% of the games.
No I think most terrans arent very comfortable with cheesing like that on a regular basis so they would rather play a "safer" more "normal" style.
if it was as good as you say then it would be the safer and more normal style, it doesn't matter what the clock says it's safer if it wins more often and it's going to become normal if it's the best way to play, but it only actually is good if you out micro the zerg
The amount of talking going on in this DH plus the fact that Richard Lewis is hosting makes me feel like I'm watching a Unfiltered episode with better production.
On September 15 2014 00:25 Gojira621 wrote: The risk vs reward of a 2rax in a TvZ is very much in favor of the terran. If you manage to pull it off, which really only takes one bunker getting down in most cases, you can very simply go straight into macro mode after taking out the natural and zerg is in a very rough spot from there.
Must be why Terrans open with Reaper expand 90% of the games.
No I think most terrans arent very comfortable with cheesing like that on a regular basis so they would rather play a "safer" more "normal" style.
if it was as good as you say then it would be the safer and more normal style, it doesn't matter what the clock says it's safer if it wins more often and it's going to become normal if it's the best way to play, but it only actually is good if you out micro the zerg
Well if it was to become the normal style, zerg's normal style would change to 10 pool, so Terrans would switch back to 1 rax CC and so on and so on.