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On August 30 2014 07:34 Caihead wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2014 07:34 ThomasjServo wrote:On August 30 2014 07:34 SorrowShine wrote:
Life on B stream? WTF Stacked yo. Flash yo.
Also helps.
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I think Scarlett's macro is strong enough to beat flash, would not be surprised if she won 2-1 or 2-0.
Not so sure about her new hair style though.... but if she wins I will accept it.
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Aligulac cares not for your hype.
(2054) Scarlett 0-0 Flash (2025)
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26.32% 2-0 0-2 23.72%
25.63% 2-1 1-2 24.33%
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51.95% 48.05%
Median outcome: Scarlett 2-1 Flash
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.
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On August 30 2014 07:31 gTank wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2014 07:22 Doublemint wrote:On August 30 2014 07:19 Ctesias wrote:On August 30 2014 07:18 Doublemint wrote:On August 30 2014 07:17 HomeWorld wrote:
Such a pathetic game. Hide a stargate in a random map place, win the game. So sad and also a testament of 0 skill needed to play protoss. Keep them tears coming. I'm a huge Flash fan but still find the bitching funny. I like Flash too and want him to do well. But the damn Protoss hate needs to be eradicated. And MC is the fucking BossToss who can beat fucking anybody if he plays on point. The doublestandards in this forum is so damn high, where were ppl saying stuff like this when Maru played a 2 rax? I laugh more about such things than balance whine. ^^
I don't know, MC definitely has something special other players don't have.
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If it gets to 1-1 flash will 2 rax.
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Does scarlett already use the "anti rape nail polish"?
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On August 30 2014 07:33 FuRRie wrote:euh...no Flash isn't that special in sc2
He's probably one of the top 5 players in the world this month and even if he weren't, he's still a giant to play against. He made Life nervous at MLG Fall in 2012, I don't doubt he could make Scarlett nervous too.
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On August 30 2014 07:35 felisconcolori wrote:Aligulac cares not for your hype. (2054) Scarlett 0-0 Flash (2025)
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26.32% 2-0 0-2 23.72%
25.63% 2-1 1-2 24.33%
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51.95% 48.05%
Median outcome: Scarlett 2-1 Flash
Flash is so low on Aligulac?
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On August 30 2014 07:34 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2014 07:33 FuRRie wrote:On August 30 2014 07:32 The_Templar wrote:On August 30 2014 07:23 Noonius wrote:On August 30 2014 07:21 J. Corsair wrote:On August 30 2014 07:15 ThomasjServo wrote:On August 30 2014 07:14 KelsierSC wrote:
holy shit this thread has gone full retard Welcome to LRs, is this your first time? I'm still relatively new here, but even I recognize the stupidity of many of these statements. People either don't understand how good MC is or either just don't care (i.e. they're stupid). it's called baiting. It's fun. Cue for The_Templar. Anything to say to Scarlett? Yeah, she will lose terribly to Flash She can always play Toss... hurhur. There's like 3 protoss players who can currently beat Flash. MC is one of them and Scarlett isn't.
I count 4: Zest, MC, Inca and Genius.
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Flash needs to go full Maru here and just fucking cheese
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On August 30 2014 07:33 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2014 07:32 meshfusion wrote:On August 30 2014 07:21 Hexe wrote:On August 30 2014 07:18 TheAnarchy wrote:
Ok I wont complain about balance. This game was so logical 3 voidrays killing a player. Good work Blizzard good work Like I said earlier, flash turtled in his main and salvaged his bunker, and it's really not that hard to send two marines out to scout the edges of the map, especially since every game MC had placed a proxy pylon in the same spots. Also, he made 2 more medivacs instead of vikings as a misclick. The issue is that as a T player playing vs P in the current expansion pack / patch - basically you are constantly behind. When you start the game you're wondering what you are up against, is it blink-all in ? Is it proxy oracle ? Is it proxy oracle followed by 4 gate off 2 base? is it DTs ? EVEN if you get the reaper in the main base which only very few players are able to do in some maps, that still doesn't mean you are safe because P players can proxy anything out on the map, as MC just showed for 2 games in a row. EVEN if you are prepared for what's coming, i.e. blindly making turrets and/or having marines in the mineral lines, not only they can still do damage killing other SCVs in areas not covered and so forth, but then you'd expect that being on 1 freaking gateway at home (like in game 3) with a proxy building on the map that did "some" damage but left the main army pretty much intact, you get a huge amount of damage back home with a big amount of marines coming across the map, stimming up at your natural. But the great mechanism introduced by Blizzard of the "1 button-defense" of the photon overcharge basically made it so that pushing up the ramp achieved almost nothing, and with 1 forcefield trapping some marines, plus the time to go up the ramp and the marines being already stimmed once, by stimming them twice once he was at the top of the ramp basically did NO counter damage whatsoever EVEN THO Flash didn't take that much damage from a proxy building and being on 1 gate at home vs a 3 rax stimmed marine push counter attack. To don't understand how the PO is completely broken and allows players that should take WAY more damage to survive and in MC's case even WIN the game off that absolutely ridiculous build, you must be pretty blindfolded in regards to the current balance of the game. Just like to the people saying that "MC figured out Flash". There was nothing figured out, he just did some """very well executed cheeses""" that no matter what, in T positions are ALWAYS hard to deal with and always end up doing damage even when you know they're coming, and the counter-attack of T players ends up always being total garbage. Don't get my wrong, MC is a beastly player and he's been consistently strong since the old times even when P was struggling, he's one of my favorite players and I respect him a lot. I don't want this to be interpreted as me giving him crap. It's just the photon overcharge that it's absolutely ridiculous and one of the things that ruin the game balance. I think it's clear from all the 3 games (and the hundreds of other games played in TvP) that the P player is always allowed to take some crazy gamble, try some crazy all-in and even if they fail, they're still in the game cause T has basically no way to effectively counter-attack. If T tried to do an all in and failed, he'd be dead 1 minute after that. Honestly, all this fanboying for MC "outplaying" Flash is totally stupid. Flash in the first game even completely outmacroed hm, sniped the nexus and kept him on 2 bases for a while, and then because - as usual - T is the least forgiving race he ate few storms during the push on the 3rd base, wasn't able to kill it and MC came back into the game. I feel that some people posting on these live threads topics spitting out some comments, especially about this match up clearly have no clue how messed up the TvP match up is at the moment. This is the longest post I've ever seen in a LR thread
Gotta admire the proper grammar and lack of typos, really.
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Scarlett: "Did it hurt?"
Flash: "Did what hurt?"
Scarlett: "When you fell from heaven and I took your place"
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I hoped Flash would 2rax. I 2rax all day on this map!
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can we stop calling flash an all time great until he wins something? casters are not helping the overhype situation.
i mean, just imagine the immense pressure flash always is under, because everyone expects him to crush everyone.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On August 30 2014 07:35 GaliX wrote:
Does scarlett already use the "anti rape nail polish"?
Please elaborate.
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On August 30 2014 07:33 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2014 07:32 meshfusion wrote:On August 30 2014 07:21 Hexe wrote:On August 30 2014 07:18 TheAnarchy wrote:
Ok I wont complain about balance. This game was so logical 3 voidrays killing a player. Good work Blizzard good work Like I said earlier, flash turtled in his main and salvaged his bunker, and it's really not that hard to send two marines out to scout the edges of the map, especially since every game MC had placed a proxy pylon in the same spots. Also, he made 2 more medivacs instead of vikings as a misclick. The issue is that as a T player playing vs P in the current expansion pack / patch - basically you are constantly behind. When you start the game you're wondering what you are up against, is it blink-all in ? Is it proxy oracle ? Is it proxy oracle followed by 4 gate off 2 base? is it DTs ? EVEN if you get the reaper in the main base which only very few players are able to do in some maps, that still doesn't mean you are safe because P players can proxy anything out on the map, as MC just showed for 2 games in a row. EVEN if you are prepared for what's coming, i.e. blindly making turrets and/or having marines in the mineral lines, not only they can still do damage killing other SCVs in areas not covered and so forth, but then you'd expect that being on 1 freaking gateway at home (like in game 3) with a proxy building on the map that did "some" damage but left the main army pretty much intact, you get a huge amount of damage back home with a big amount of marines coming across the map, stimming up at your natural. But the great mechanism introduced by Blizzard of the "1 button-defense" of the photon overcharge basically made it so that pushing up the ramp achieved almost nothing, and with 1 forcefield trapping some marines, plus the time to go up the ramp and the marines being already stimmed once, by stimming them twice once he was at the top of the ramp basically did NO counter damage whatsoever EVEN THO Flash didn't take that much damage from a proxy building and being on 1 gate at home vs a 3 rax stimmed marine push counter attack. To don't understand how the PO is completely broken and allows players that should take WAY more damage to survive and in MC's case even WIN the game off that absolutely ridiculous build, you must be pretty blindfolded in regards to the current balance of the game. Just like to the people saying that "MC figured out Flash". There was nothing figured out, he just did some """very well executed cheeses""" that no matter what, in T positions are ALWAYS hard to deal with and always end up doing damage even when you know they're coming, and the counter-attack of T players ends up always being total garbage. Don't get my wrong, MC is a beastly player and he's been consistently strong since the old times even when P was struggling, he's one of my favorite players and I respect him a lot. I don't want this to be interpreted as me giving him crap. It's just the photon overcharge that it's absolutely ridiculous and one of the things that ruin the game balance. I think it's clear from all the 3 games (and the hundreds of other games played in TvP) that the P player is always allowed to take some crazy gamble, try some crazy all-in and even if they fail, they're still in the game cause T has basically no way to effectively counter-attack. If T tried to do an all in and failed, he'd be dead 1 minute after that. Honestly, all this fanboying for MC "outplaying" Flash is totally stupid. Flash in the first game even completely outmacroed hm, sniped the nexus and kept him on 2 bases for a while, and then because - as usual - T is the least forgiving race he ate few storms during the push on the 3rd base, wasn't able to kill it and MC came back into the game. I feel that some people posting on these live threads topics spitting out some comments, especially about this match up clearly have no clue how messed up the TvP match up is at the moment. This is the longest post I've ever seen in a LR thread
Yours was longer by not spoiling the quote.
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
On August 30 2014 07:34 Morbidius wrote:
Not a good day for Kespa so far.
Needs more kespa training?
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On August 30 2014 07:34 ObeseHydra wrote:
If Scarlet wins this, the tears will drown us all.
Scarlett has enough fanboys that there are going to be tears no matter who wins.
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Idk why all the flame.
Judging by results only, Flash is like a 2014 version of Ensnare. It's logical that MC defeated him.
The rest is just pure fanboy tears.
"Deal with it" - Liquid'Snute
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On August 30 2014 07:34 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2014 07:31 Shellshock wrote:On August 30 2014 07:31 SorrowShine wrote:
doesnt a winers match come first relegated to B stream because of fan favorites it seems Tbh Scarlett vs Flash sounds like a much more exciting series than MC vs Life
Depends on your point of view. Personally I find the winners match more attractive, but that might have to do with those guys being the 2 I root for. From IEM's point of view, playing this on main stage only makes sence though, as it is possibly the last game of a Canadian.
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