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On August 24 2014 07:08 Squat wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 07:02 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On August 24 2014 07:00 brickrd wrote:
this looks carbon copied from scarlett's muta into BL And, like when Scarlett uses it, it loses to a shit ton of roachs. It has been winning more than losing lately. It's all about the razor thin timing, buying enough breathing space to get to broods before the push hits your natural. It's extremely hard to do right, Suppy wasn't even close unfortunately.
It also lost against Leenock even after she got the brood lords up because he just kept doing sending roachs to different locations and keeping the brood lords back. It only works when you're already ahead. You have to do lots of damage with the mutas or it just loses
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On August 24 2014 07:12 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 07:08 Squat wrote:On August 24 2014 07:02 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On August 24 2014 07:00 brickrd wrote:
this looks carbon copied from scarlett's muta into BL And, like when Scarlett uses it, it loses to a shit ton of roachs. It has been winning more than losing lately. It's all about the razor thin timing, buying enough breathing space to get to broods before the push hits your natural. It's extremely hard to do right, Suppy wasn't even close unfortunately. It also lost against Leenock even after she got the brood lords up because he just kept doing sending roachs to different locations and keeping the brood lords back. It only works when you're already ahead.
it sort of reminds me of mass planetary into raven in tvz, its something that seems really strong if the opponent doesnt scout/react/punish correctly but doesnt work very well against trained koreans with really good senses for timings
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On August 24 2014 07:03 Lorning wrote:
Wow, I'm glad HyuN won here. Was getting worried he wouldn't get enough points for blizzcon
Cute. 
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On August 24 2014 07:12 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 07:08 Squat wrote:On August 24 2014 07:02 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On August 24 2014 07:00 brickrd wrote:
this looks carbon copied from scarlett's muta into BL And, like when Scarlett uses it, it loses to a shit ton of roachs. It has been winning more than losing lately. It's all about the razor thin timing, buying enough breathing space to get to broods before the push hits your natural. It's extremely hard to do right, Suppy wasn't even close unfortunately. It also lost against Leenock even after she got the brood lords up because he just kept doing sending roachs to different locations and keeping the brood lords back. It only works when you're already ahead. You have to do lots of damage with the mutas or it just loses
It lost one game, must be terrible. There are ways to deal with the roaches, and it's very map dependent, some maps aren't nearly as susceptible to roach spam. You have nowhere near enough of a sample size to make those kinds of declarative statements.
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I want to see warcraft 3 hasu vs tod, when the two are casting somehow X.x
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Dong is taking notes from Petraeus
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On August 24 2014 07:12 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 07:08 Squat wrote:On August 24 2014 07:02 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On August 24 2014 07:00 brickrd wrote:
this looks carbon copied from scarlett's muta into BL And, like when Scarlett uses it, it loses to a shit ton of roachs. It has been winning more than losing lately. It's all about the razor thin timing, buying enough breathing space to get to broods before the push hits your natural. It's extremely hard to do right, Suppy wasn't even close unfortunately. It also lost against Leenock even after she got the brood lords up because he just kept doing sending roachs to different locations and keeping the brood lords back. It only works when you're already ahead. You have to do lots of damage with the mutas or it just loses
It lost against Leenock only because she played worse than he did.
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On August 24 2014 07:16 Squat wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 07:12 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On August 24 2014 07:08 Squat wrote:On August 24 2014 07:02 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On August 24 2014 07:00 brickrd wrote:
this looks carbon copied from scarlett's muta into BL And, like when Scarlett uses it, it loses to a shit ton of roachs. It has been winning more than losing lately. It's all about the razor thin timing, buying enough breathing space to get to broods before the push hits your natural. It's extremely hard to do right, Suppy wasn't even close unfortunately. It also lost against Leenock even after she got the brood lords up because he just kept doing sending roachs to different locations and keeping the brood lords back. It only works when you're already ahead. You have to do lots of damage with the mutas or it just loses It lost one game, must be terrible. There are ways to deal with the roaches, and it's very map dependent, some maps aren't nearly as susceptible to roach spam. You have nowhere near enough of a sample size to make those kinds of declarative statements.
I didn't say it was terrible, all I'm saying is that it has a lot of holes that can be exploited if the style is done imperfectly.
On August 24 2014 07:19 Alchemik wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 07:12 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On August 24 2014 07:08 Squat wrote:On August 24 2014 07:02 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On August 24 2014 07:00 brickrd wrote:
this looks carbon copied from scarlett's muta into BL And, like when Scarlett uses it, it loses to a shit ton of roachs. It has been winning more than losing lately. It's all about the razor thin timing, buying enough breathing space to get to broods before the push hits your natural. It's extremely hard to do right, Suppy wasn't even close unfortunately. It also lost against Leenock even after she got the brood lords up because he just kept doing sending roachs to different locations and keeping the brood lords back. It only works when you're already ahead. You have to do lots of damage with the mutas or it just loses It lost against Leenock only because she played worse than he did.
True, she was behind after the early game and it is not a "comeback" build usually. She also lost a shit ton of mutas that game without doing enough damage
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How is Twitch for you guys? I'm getting some lag every other 5 minutes or so. Weird.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Petreaus is playing much better than Jaedong.
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On August 24 2014 07:19 Alchemik wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 07:12 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On August 24 2014 07:08 Squat wrote:On August 24 2014 07:02 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On August 24 2014 07:00 brickrd wrote:
this looks carbon copied from scarlett's muta into BL And, like when Scarlett uses it, it loses to a shit ton of roachs. It has been winning more than losing lately. It's all about the razor thin timing, buying enough breathing space to get to broods before the push hits your natural. It's extremely hard to do right, Suppy wasn't even close unfortunately. It also lost against Leenock even after she got the brood lords up because he just kept doing sending roachs to different locations and keeping the brood lords back. It only works when you're already ahead. You have to do lots of damage with the mutas or it just loses It lost against Leenock only because she played worse than he did.
True, she was behind after the early game and it is not a "comeback" build.[/QUOTE]
So there's no claims to be made about the style. It's good if game is even, I agree it might not be the best if you're behind. Althought nothing is good when you're behind in ZvZ.
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imo this is nowhere near over and petraeus still has a big big task ahead of him
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On August 24 2014 07:22 Alchemik wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 07:19 Alchemik wrote:On August 24 2014 07:12 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On August 24 2014 07:08 Squat wrote:On August 24 2014 07:02 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On August 24 2014 07:00 brickrd wrote:
this looks carbon copied from scarlett's muta into BL And, like when Scarlett uses it, it loses to a shit ton of roachs. It has been winning more than losing lately. It's all about the razor thin timing, buying enough breathing space to get to broods before the push hits your natural. It's extremely hard to do right, Suppy wasn't even close unfortunately. It also lost against Leenock even after she got the brood lords up because he just kept doing sending roachs to different locations and keeping the brood lords back. It only works when you're already ahead. You have to do lots of damage with the mutas or it just loses It lost against Leenock only because she played worse than he did. True, she was behind after the early game and it is not a "comeback" build.
So there's no claims to be made about the style. It's good if game is even, I agree it might not be the best if you're behind. Althought nothing is good when you're behind in ZvZ.[/QUOTE]
Fungals are a decent choice when behind.
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I didn't say it was terrible, all I'm saying is that it has a lot of holes that can be exploited if the style is done imperfectly.
That's not what you said at all. You said it just loses unless you were ahead. The two statements are not interchangable.
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On August 24 2014 07:22 Alchemik wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 07:19 Alchemik wrote:On August 24 2014 07:12 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On August 24 2014 07:08 Squat wrote:On August 24 2014 07:02 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On August 24 2014 07:00 brickrd wrote:
this looks carbon copied from scarlett's muta into BL And, like when Scarlett uses it, it loses to a shit ton of roachs. It has been winning more than losing lately. It's all about the razor thin timing, buying enough breathing space to get to broods before the push hits your natural. It's extremely hard to do right, Suppy wasn't even close unfortunately. It also lost against Leenock even after she got the brood lords up because he just kept doing sending roachs to different locations and keeping the brood lords back. It only works when you're already ahead. You have to do lots of damage with the mutas or it just loses It lost against Leenock only because she played worse than he did. True, she was behind after the early game and it is not a "comeback" build.
So there's no claims to be made about the style. It's good if game is even, I agree it might not be the best if you're behind. Althought nothing is good when you're behind in ZvZ.[/QUOTE]
Your opponent DCing is pretty good when you're behind.
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2 in the 3rd, 5 in the natural
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United States97276 Posts
Is Jaedong going to ask Petraeus for some tips?
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