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Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
August 16 2014 12:26 GMT
#41
On August 16 2014 21:23 Alchemik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2014 21:07 Undead1993 wrote:
On August 16 2014 21:05 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Wow, Leenock playing so well. Scarlett looking completely outclassed here.

i wouldn't say completely outclassed it just shows why we don't see the style she uses too often in pro games


You can deal with pressure while going for that broodlord rush, she was just pretty much outplayed.

why do we see roach vs roach 95% of the time then and not muta into broodlords if you can deal with the raoch pressure when there are burrowed roaches across your 4 bases?
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
August 16 2014 12:28 GMT
#42
On August 16 2014 21:26 Undead1993 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2014 21:23 Alchemik wrote:
On August 16 2014 21:07 Undead1993 wrote:
On August 16 2014 21:05 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Wow, Leenock playing so well. Scarlett looking completely outclassed here.

i wouldn't say completely outclassed it just shows why we don't see the style she uses too often in pro games


You can deal with pressure while going for that broodlord rush, she was just pretty much outplayed.

why do we see roach vs roach 95% of the time then and not muta into broodlords if you can deal with the raoch pressure when there are burrowed roaches across your 4 bases?


usually you need to be ahead in the early game, then go to broodlords and put the pressure on before he has a response. scarlett was behind and decided to go for it anyway for some reason.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-16 12:30:05
August 16 2014 12:29 GMT
#43
On August 16 2014 21:28 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2014 21:26 Undead1993 wrote:
On August 16 2014 21:23 Alchemik wrote:
On August 16 2014 21:07 Undead1993 wrote:
On August 16 2014 21:05 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Wow, Leenock playing so well. Scarlett looking completely outclassed here.

i wouldn't say completely outclassed it just shows why we don't see the style she uses too often in pro games


You can deal with pressure while going for that broodlord rush, she was just pretty much outplayed.

why do we see roach vs roach 95% of the time then and not muta into broodlords if you can deal with the raoch pressure when there are burrowed roaches across your 4 bases?


usually you need to be ahead in the early game, then go to broodlords and put the pressure on before he has a response. scarlett was behind and decided to go for it anyway for some reason.

yea i've seen it working when you get ahead from the early/midgame i agree. but on equal footing i don't see a way to properly deal with multi-pronged roach attacks tbh.
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 16 2014 12:30 GMT
#44
On August 16 2014 20:44 UlTiMa00 wrote:
Acer 2 : 1 YFW
sen < san
innovation > Has
MMA > slam
next
scarlett vs leenock


why did Sen play for Acer?
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Zheryn
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3653 Posts
August 16 2014 12:30 GMT
#45
On August 16 2014 21:28 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2014 21:26 Undead1993 wrote:
On August 16 2014 21:23 Alchemik wrote:
On August 16 2014 21:07 Undead1993 wrote:
On August 16 2014 21:05 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Wow, Leenock playing so well. Scarlett looking completely outclassed here.

i wouldn't say completely outclassed it just shows why we don't see the style she uses too often in pro games


You can deal with pressure while going for that broodlord rush, she was just pretty much outplayed.

why do we see roach vs roach 95% of the time then and not muta into broodlords if you can deal with the raoch pressure when there are burrowed roaches across your 4 bases?


usually you need to be ahead in the early game, then go to broodlords and put the pressure on before he has a response. scarlett was behind and decided to go for it anyway for some reason.


A style that only works if you are ahead doesn't seem that good.
hundred thousand krouner
Rocket-Bear
Profile Joined July 2014
3070 Posts
August 16 2014 12:30 GMT
#46
On August 16 2014 21:30 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2014 20:44 UlTiMa00 wrote:
Acer 2 : 1 YFW
sen < san
innovation > Has
MMA > slam
next
scarlett vs leenock


why did Sen play for Acer?

Mercenary due to lack of players otherwise
Favorite players: Gh and Zai
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
August 16 2014 12:31 GMT
#47
On August 16 2014 21:30 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2014 20:44 UlTiMa00 wrote:
Acer 2 : 1 YFW
sen < san
innovation > Has
MMA > slam
next
scarlett vs leenock


why did Sen play for Acer?

Taiwan Open 2014 champion Sen will also take the field for Team Acer, as a mercenary for the event.


from the acer website
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-16 12:34:49
August 16 2014 12:32 GMT
#48
On August 16 2014 21:29 Undead1993 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2014 21:28 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On August 16 2014 21:26 Undead1993 wrote:
On August 16 2014 21:23 Alchemik wrote:
On August 16 2014 21:07 Undead1993 wrote:
On August 16 2014 21:05 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Wow, Leenock playing so well. Scarlett looking completely outclassed here.

i wouldn't say completely outclassed it just shows why we don't see the style she uses too often in pro games


You can deal with pressure while going for that broodlord rush, she was just pretty much outplayed.

why do we see roach vs roach 95% of the time then and not muta into broodlords if you can deal with the raoch pressure when there are burrowed roaches across your 4 bases?


usually you need to be ahead in the early game, then go to broodlords and put the pressure on before he has a response. scarlett was behind and decided to go for it anyway for some reason.

yea i've seen it working when you get ahead from the early/midgame i agree. but on equal footing i don't see a way to properly deal with multi-pronged roach attacks tbh.


ya, there's no real way. it wasn't even on even footing, she was behind because of the 3rd getting killed and she went for a killing blow build.

On August 16 2014 21:30 Zheryn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2014 21:28 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On August 16 2014 21:26 Undead1993 wrote:
On August 16 2014 21:23 Alchemik wrote:
On August 16 2014 21:07 Undead1993 wrote:
On August 16 2014 21:05 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Wow, Leenock playing so well. Scarlett looking completely outclassed here.

i wouldn't say completely outclassed it just shows why we don't see the style she uses too often in pro games


You can deal with pressure while going for that broodlord rush, she was just pretty much outplayed.

why do we see roach vs roach 95% of the time then and not muta into broodlords if you can deal with the raoch pressure when there are burrowed roaches across your 4 bases?


usually you need to be ahead in the early game, then go to broodlords and put the pressure on before he has a response. scarlett was behind and decided to go for it anyway for some reason.


A style that only works if you are ahead doesn't seem that good.


It's very situational. It's got it's flaws for sure but if you can set it up correctly there's absolutely no way to deal with it.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
August 16 2014 12:33 GMT
#49
On August 16 2014 21:26 Undead1993 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2014 21:23 Alchemik wrote:
On August 16 2014 21:07 Undead1993 wrote:
On August 16 2014 21:05 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Wow, Leenock playing so well. Scarlett looking completely outclassed here.

i wouldn't say completely outclassed it just shows why we don't see the style she uses too often in pro games


You can deal with pressure while going for that broodlord rush, she was just pretty much outplayed.

why do we see roach vs roach 95% of the time then and not muta into broodlords if you can deal with the raoch pressure when there are burrowed roaches across your 4 bases?


Well, you can just not let them burrow across your four bases. One overseer at the ramp, one overseer close to the third and she's pretty much safe.

Dunno why we don't see it more.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 16 2014 12:36 GMT
#50
Sen's answer, 1 billion million lings and 7 queens.
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
August 16 2014 12:37 GMT
#51
On August 16 2014 21:33 Alchemik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2014 21:26 Undead1993 wrote:
On August 16 2014 21:23 Alchemik wrote:
On August 16 2014 21:07 Undead1993 wrote:
On August 16 2014 21:05 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Wow, Leenock playing so well. Scarlett looking completely outclassed here.

i wouldn't say completely outclassed it just shows why we don't see the style she uses too often in pro games


You can deal with pressure while going for that broodlord rush, she was just pretty much outplayed.

why do we see roach vs roach 95% of the time then and not muta into broodlords if you can deal with the raoch pressure when there are burrowed roaches across your 4 bases?


Well, you can just not let them burrow across your four bases. One overseer at the ramp, one overseer close to the third and she's pretty much safe.

Dunno why we don't see it more.


she lost her overseers when she got her mutas trapped earlier, and I guess forgot to build more. another small mistake
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
August 16 2014 12:38 GMT
#52
ugh sen's zvp >.<
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Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
August 16 2014 12:38 GMT
#53
On August 16 2014 21:37 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2014 21:33 Alchemik wrote:
On August 16 2014 21:26 Undead1993 wrote:
On August 16 2014 21:23 Alchemik wrote:
On August 16 2014 21:07 Undead1993 wrote:
On August 16 2014 21:05 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Wow, Leenock playing so well. Scarlett looking completely outclassed here.

i wouldn't say completely outclassed it just shows why we don't see the style she uses too often in pro games


You can deal with pressure while going for that broodlord rush, she was just pretty much outplayed.

why do we see roach vs roach 95% of the time then and not muta into broodlords if you can deal with the raoch pressure when there are burrowed roaches across your 4 bases?


Well, you can just not let them burrow across your four bases. One overseer at the ramp, one overseer close to the third and she's pretty much safe.

Dunno why we don't see it more.


she lost her overseers when she got her mutas trapped earlier, and I guess forgot to build more. another small mistake

Yeah, it is pretty easy to lose with that style, but it is quite strong if you don't make those small mistakes.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
August 16 2014 12:39 GMT
#54
Wow, game winning oracle right there.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Zheryn
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3653 Posts
August 16 2014 12:41 GMT
#55
I don't understand why more pros do the 4gate like this, not commiting too deep on creep and just forcing out more non-drone units. Most players I see just dive that third and lose their units and sometimes kill the third.
hundred thousand krouner
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 16 2014 12:43 GMT
#56
On August 16 2014 21:41 Zheryn wrote:
I don't understand why more pros do the 4gate like this, not commiting too deep on creep and just forcing out more non-drone units. Most players I see just dive that third and lose their units and sometimes kill the third.


They aren't willing to risk their souls like ManZenith.
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-16 12:45:30
August 16 2014 12:44 GMT
#57
Acer might have been better off not adding Sen for this. Neither of the zergs for Acer looking that hot today
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Rocket-Bear
Profile Joined July 2014
3070 Posts
August 16 2014 12:46 GMT
#58
Gogo yoeFW
Favorite players: Gh and Zai
Faefae
Profile Joined June 2014
2203 Posts
August 16 2014 12:50 GMT
#59
On August 16 2014 21:44 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Acer might have been better off not adding Sen for this. Neither of the zergs for Acer looking that hot today

Well if they wanted to win they would have sent Innovation. But they are playing in taiwan right now, so sending SEn is nice for the audience
ForGG. 29/11/2014
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
August 16 2014 12:51 GMT
#60
the iron wall will be built by Hasjwa
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