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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
August 03 2014 11:31 GMT
#481
On August 03 2014 20:30 Zheryn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2014 20:27 Squat wrote:
On August 03 2014 20:25 Ammanas wrote:
Foreigners got so much better than last time I watched them. Nice to see that

Eh, Snute isn't exactly representative. It's more or less him, Scar, Vortix and sometimes one or two others that are capable of something like this.


Who is Scar?

Scarlett.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
KingAlphard
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Italy1705 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-03 11:32:49
August 03 2014 11:31 GMT
#482
On August 03 2014 20:27 Everlong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2014 20:25 Green_25 wrote:
On August 03 2014 20:22 polpot wrote:
On August 03 2014 20:21 SoSexy wrote:
On August 03 2014 20:21 Everlong wrote:
MMA pls send replay to sunday avilo replay analysis and take some notes.


nice joke bro

May sound funny, but when it come to mech Avilo look more solid to me

Avilo may have a better understanding of mech units but he plays passive because he's too slow to play anything else, its not some genius strategy by him.


He is not slow, he just understands attacking with mech is the losing strategy. Unfortunatelly, there are units in this game that forbids playing anything but defense IF you decide to play mech (SH, Immortal).


Actually a lot of people who play mech vs protoss go for 3 base timings with hellbat/tanks and ghosts. Immortals are totally useless once you take the shields out. But people keep forgetting that EMP with mech exists just to say that "mech sux" when they lose/don't play with it. Also immortals are terrible vs hellbats, in fact, at the same cost, hellbat/tank wins vs pure immortal (and protoss will never have pure immortal, but other less effective unist such as warpgate units)..
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
August 03 2014 11:31 GMT
#483
On August 03 2014 20:30 Zheryn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2014 20:27 Squat wrote:
On August 03 2014 20:25 Ammanas wrote:
Foreigners got so much better than last time I watched them. Nice to see that

Eh, Snute isn't exactly representative. It's more or less him, Scar, Vortix and sometimes one or two others that are capable of something like this.


Who is Scar?

Short form of Scarlett.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-03 11:32:01
August 03 2014 11:31 GMT
#484
On August 03 2014 20:30 Zheryn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2014 20:27 Squat wrote:
On August 03 2014 20:25 Ammanas wrote:
Foreigners got so much better than last time I watched them. Nice to see that

Eh, Snute isn't exactly representative. It's more or less him, Scar, Vortix and sometimes one or two others that are capable of something like this.


Who is Scar?

The emo cousin of scarlett
Or the villain from lion king
Glorious SEA doto
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24592 Posts
August 03 2014 11:31 GMT
#485
An issue we have as viewers is that we keep repeating some statements such as "SH vs mech is boring" and just repeat them over and over, and that affects people who are viewing and makes them think it is boring because you look away from the finesse and gameplay and instead focus on "endless free units wow" and ignore things like positioning, macro, split map or whatever else can be interesting to focus on.
Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
August 03 2014 11:31 GMT
#486
Harstem has reached Starcraft Enlightment, very good itw.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
August 03 2014 11:31 GMT
#487
On August 03 2014 20:30 Zheryn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2014 20:27 Squat wrote:
On August 03 2014 20:25 Ammanas wrote:
Foreigners got so much better than last time I watched them. Nice to see that

Eh, Snute isn't exactly representative. It's more or less him, Scar, Vortix and sometimes one or two others that are capable of something like this.


Who is Scar?

lett
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24592 Posts
August 03 2014 11:32 GMT
#488
When are the finals? Anyone know?
Mambo
Profile Joined February 2012
Denmark1338 Posts
August 03 2014 11:32 GMT
#489
On August 03 2014 20:23 Big-t wrote:
Wowowowowow, nerd chills.

Abducted thors attacked ground units, someone knows if snute microed them or is this a bug because since the new patch thors should attack air first.

I think he used blinding cloud on them after he abducted them.
Boxer | MVP | Taeja | TLO | Grubby | Bunny (danish)
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
August 03 2014 11:33 GMT
#490
On August 03 2014 20:31 KingAlphard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2014 20:27 Everlong wrote:
On August 03 2014 20:25 Green_25 wrote:
On August 03 2014 20:22 polpot wrote:
On August 03 2014 20:21 SoSexy wrote:
On August 03 2014 20:21 Everlong wrote:
MMA pls send replay to sunday avilo replay analysis and take some notes.


nice joke bro

May sound funny, but when it come to mech Avilo look more solid to me

Avilo may have a better understanding of mech units but he plays passive because he's too slow to play anything else, its not some genius strategy by him.


He is not slow, he just understands attacking with mech is the losing strategy. Unfortunatelly, there are units in this game that forbids playing anything but defense IF you decide to play mech (SH, Immortal).


Actually most people who play mech vs protoss go for 3 base timings with hellbat/tanks and ghosts. Immortals are totally useless once you take the shields out. But people keep forgetting that EMP with mech exists just to say that "mech sux" when they lose/don't play with it. Also immortals are terrible vs hellbats, in fact, at the same cost, hellbat/tank wins vs pure immortal (and protoss will never have pure immortal, but other less effective unist such as warpgate units)..

Dude, April Fools' Day is long over.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
August 03 2014 11:33 GMT
#491
Dang, seems like I missed a great game. Snute and Bunny next, two people I'd consider the best two foreigners in the world right now!
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-03 11:34:11
August 03 2014 11:33 GMT
#492
On August 03 2014 20:31 Heartland wrote:
An issue we have as viewers is that we keep repeating some statements such as "SH vs mech is boring" and just repeat them over and over, and that affects people who are viewing and makes them think it is boring because you look away from the finesse and gameplay and instead focus on "endless free units wow" and ignore things like positioning, macro, split map or whatever else can be interesting to focus on.

swarm hosts vs mech is very interesting, as soon as the terran is sucessfully able to transition into mass air i don't see a single possibility for the zerg to win and that's where it becomes boring in my eyes.

even soulkey vs reality was very very exciting to a certain point. sometimes games end in a very boring "nothing" though, a stalemate. but it very rarely happens in games with players of this caliber.
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
August 03 2014 11:33 GMT
#493
On August 03 2014 20:32 Mambo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2014 20:23 Big-t wrote:
Wowowowowow, nerd chills.

Abducted thors attacked ground units, someone knows if snute microed them or is this a bug because since the new patch thors should attack air first.

I think he used blinding cloud on them after he abducted them.

He meant control neural imho. And thors attacks sky unit first if they can deal damage to them, raven and viking dont.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
August 03 2014 11:34 GMT
#494
On August 03 2014 20:31 Heartland wrote:
An issue we have as viewers is that we keep repeating some statements such as "SH vs mech is boring" and just repeat them over and over, and that affects people who are viewing and makes them think it is boring because you look away from the finesse and gameplay and instead focus on "endless free units wow" and ignore things like positioning, macro, split map or whatever else can be interesting to focus on.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/463871-gfinity-g3-day-2?page=22#423
Thobrik
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden1120 Posts
August 03 2014 11:34 GMT
#495
Is the viewer number only for Starcraft II? In that case I'm very impressed.
"Philosophy is questions that may never be answered, Religion is answers that may never be questioned."
meshfusion
Profile Joined June 2014
Russian Federation232 Posts
August 03 2014 11:34 GMT
#496
I think swarmhosts vs mech games are the most boring thing in the universe. Everyone is entitled to their taste/opinion, no need to try to convince the other side who's right and wrong. Games like this in my experienceare why people stop watching SC2, I have to give huge props to ToD and Khaldor because they made it VERY entertaining - whether they truly liked it or not it was good to follow. I also feel as a T player you gotta work so much harder due to the fact that he's trading free unit all game while you're loosing minerals/gas repairing or simply dying. It used to be that Z was the one that had worst-trade off in units-lost tab and rightly so, now it's Terran. lol
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24592 Posts
August 03 2014 11:34 GMT
#497
On August 03 2014 20:33 Undead1993 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2014 20:31 Heartland wrote:
An issue we have as viewers is that we keep repeating some statements such as "SH vs mech is boring" and just repeat them over and over, and that affects people who are viewing and makes them think it is boring because you look away from the finesse and gameplay and instead focus on "endless free units wow" and ignore things like positioning, macro, split map or whatever else can be interesting to focus on.

swarm hosts vs mech is very interesting, as soon as the terran is sucessfully able to transition into mass air i don't see a single possibility for the zerg to win and that's where it becomes boring in my eyes.

even soulkey vs reality was very very exciting to a certain point. sometimes game end in a very boring "nothing" though, a stalemate. but it very rarely happens in games with players of this caliber.


I think SH vs mech can be superboring a lot of the time, but what I wanted to bring to attention is that the community has a tendency to just endlessly repeat certain phrases no matter if it's viable to the situation. And it affects people who watch and cheapens the game
Green_25
Profile Joined June 2013
Great Britain696 Posts
August 03 2014 11:35 GMT
#498
On August 03 2014 20:27 Everlong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2014 20:25 Green_25 wrote:
On August 03 2014 20:22 polpot wrote:
On August 03 2014 20:21 SoSexy wrote:
On August 03 2014 20:21 Everlong wrote:
MMA pls send replay to sunday avilo replay analysis and take some notes.


nice joke bro

May sound funny, but when it come to mech Avilo look more solid to me

Avilo may have a better understanding of mech units but he plays passive because he's too slow to play anything else, its not some genius strategy by him.


He is not slow, he just understands attacking with mech is the losing strategy. Unfortunatelly, there are units in this game that forbids playing anything but defense IF you decide to play mech (SH, Immortal).

No, camping is a losing strategy, at least against any zerg above masters.

Avilo vs Snute would be hilarious.
Everlong
Profile Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1973 Posts
August 03 2014 11:35 GMT
#499
On August 03 2014 20:30 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2014 20:28 Noc- wrote:
On August 03 2014 20:25 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
On August 03 2014 20:23 Noc- wrote:
On August 03 2014 20:20 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
seriously amazing one of the best games ever


What? I'm a protoss and TvZ is my favorite matchup to watch, but that was just disgusting as hell. My opinion is that there was nothing amazing watching an hour long game and knowing the result all the way from the point Snute started sitting on swarmhosts.

As you mentioned before you're an MMA/Acer fan and have been doing nothing but hate on whatever MMA loses to. The abducts, fungals, battles at multiple locations constantly, mind control. You may be a psychic but I don't think anyone else knew he was going to win that.


My opinions and tears would be the same no matter which terran was fighting that.

"On whatever MMA loses to", nope that's just swarmhosts.

It blows my mind how you would simplify that game to just swarmhost in order to justify your hate for them.


I guess the thing people hate about SH is that if you don't know what to do exactly (which MMA just barely realised throught the entire game) vs them, you will lose in a slow painful death and it just looks so easy for the Zerg. On the other hand, if you know what to do, you get 10h games where nothing happens until someone just randomly loses.

I think this game was so interesting, because MMA went through learning process during the game and lost so much while doing so, which ultimately made this game so entertaining.
Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
August 03 2014 11:35 GMT
#500
On August 03 2014 20:33 Undead1993 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2014 20:31 Heartland wrote:
An issue we have as viewers is that we keep repeating some statements such as "SH vs mech is boring" and just repeat them over and over, and that affects people who are viewing and makes them think it is boring because you look away from the finesse and gameplay and instead focus on "endless free units wow" and ignore things like positioning, macro, split map or whatever else can be interesting to focus on.

swarm hosts vs mech is very interesting, as soon as the terran is sucessfully able to transition into mass air i don't see a single possibility for the zerg to win and that's where it becomes boring in my eyes.

even soulkey vs reality was very very exciting to a certain point. sometimes games end in a very boring "nothing" though, a stalemate. but it very rarely happens in games with players of this caliber.


But if there is no pissibility to win for the terran either that's ok ? wtf nice biase.
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