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On July 25 2014 20:56 deacon.frost wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2014 20:54 TW wrote:
That is why so many people hate Protoss.
So many different allins. Ahm, why they were hated even during WoL beta when marauders with CS were autowin button? ANd yes, I am not expecting a serious debate on this on the forum where most of the posters is terran blinded... Go Trust!!!!
A lot of the stuff in the beta worked because people didnt know how to play prperly
But of course there were imbalances
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On July 25 2014 20:52 Muffloe wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2014 20:51 pure.Wasted wrote:
Man I wish Protoss could just straight up die to an uncloaked Banshee. That would make me so happy. I think I have done that on ladder
I think Maru absolutely crippled herO on Frost in SPL using a 3 base cloak banshee build vs herO's blink.
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On July 25 2014 20:56 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2014 20:55 Xinzoe wrote:On July 25 2014 20:52 Quateras wrote:
What can you even do to defend that?
Turret in main rdy, Reactor on Rax to get enough marnes vs Oracle and a freaking bunker in the nat.
Yes he stood absolutely no chance? probably wall the ramp so stalker zealot cant assist oracle. but walling against protoss can be bad sometimes also a turret near you rax should be enough to hold with some casualties. Then just withdraw in your main and hold the 3/4 gate stargate all in.
You cant just randomly build a turret near the Rax at the 4.50 min mark tho, especially when there can be a proxy stargate anywhere on the map which makes it basically unscoutable.
Its an insanely strong build thats not even all in, so dont need to win right here and right there.
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On July 25 2014 20:56 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2014 20:55 Xinzoe wrote:On July 25 2014 20:52 Quateras wrote:
What can you even do to defend that?
Turret in main rdy, Reactor on Rax to get enough marnes vs Oracle and a freaking bunker in the nat.
Yes he stood absolutely no chance? probably wall the ramp so stalker zealot cant assist oracle. but walling against protoss can be bad sometimes also a turret near you rax should be enough to hold with some casualties. Then just withdraw in your main and hold the 3/4 gate stargate all in.
its a gas first oracle. u wont get 3 turrets (natural, main, rax) in time. or u will have to cut so many SCVs that u will be behind anyway
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On July 25 2014 20:58 Quateras wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2014 20:56 sAsImre wrote:On July 25 2014 20:55 Xinzoe wrote:On July 25 2014 20:52 Quateras wrote:
What can you even do to defend that?
Turret in main rdy, Reactor on Rax to get enough marnes vs Oracle and a freaking bunker in the nat.
Yes he stood absolutely no chance? probably wall the ramp so stalker zealot cant assist oracle. but walling against protoss can be bad sometimes also a turret near you rax should be enough to hold with some casualties. Then just withdraw in your main and hold the 3/4 gate stargate all in. You cant just randomly build a turret near the Rax at the 4.50 min mark tho, especially when there can be a proxy stargate anywhere on the map which makes it basically unscoutable. Its an insanely strong build thats not even all in, so dont need to win.
it's almost all in and you can do it. He recognized the proxy stargate (and made a turret in his main) then saw the chronoboosted gate. Should've been enough to get this turret up (or a high ground bunker)
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On July 25 2014 20:59 Xinzoe wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2014 20:56 sAsImre wrote:On July 25 2014 20:55 Xinzoe wrote:On July 25 2014 20:52 Quateras wrote:
What can you even do to defend that?
Turret in main rdy, Reactor on Rax to get enough marnes vs Oracle and a freaking bunker in the nat.
Yes he stood absolutely no chance? probably wall the ramp so stalker zealot cant assist oracle. but walling against protoss can be bad sometimes also a turret near you rax should be enough to hold with some casualties. Then just withdraw in your main and hold the 3/4 gate stargate all in. its a gas first oracle. u wont get 3 turrets (natural, main, rax) in time. or u will have to cut so many SCVs that u will be behind anyway
or you die. you don't need the nat turret to begin with anyway.
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On July 25 2014 20:33 Phredxor wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2014 20:32 SmoKim wrote:
Anyone else happy to see Stork doing better and better?
DinoToss <3
Now Fanta just somehow need to to get to Code S! I think pretty much everyone is :D Just wish Jangbang would reappear. Isn't he still technically on Samsung?
Jangbi would pwn ALL if he played. I think that he left the team, but i am not sure
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On July 25 2014 20:59 Xinzoe wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2014 20:56 sAsImre wrote:On July 25 2014 20:55 Xinzoe wrote:On July 25 2014 20:52 Quateras wrote:
What can you even do to defend that?
Turret in main rdy, Reactor on Rax to get enough marnes vs Oracle and a freaking bunker in the nat.
Yes he stood absolutely no chance? probably wall the ramp so stalker zealot cant assist oracle. but walling against protoss can be bad sometimes also a turret near you rax should be enough to hold with some casualties. Then just withdraw in your main and hold the 3/4 gate stargate all in. its a gas first oracle. u wont get 3 turrets (natural, main, rax) in time. or u will have to cut so many SCVs that u will be behind anyway
I agree, I think the best wqy is to lift the expand CC to the main, transfer the SCV and wait until you vve defended to retake the expo. You lose mining time and all but I think it s the least bad option.
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weird opening by Fantasy. I see the idea behind it but his mineral-timing was off. Either this build is not fully-fledged or he messed it up
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On July 25 2014 20:57 WGT-Baal wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2014 20:56 deacon.frost wrote:On July 25 2014 20:54 TW wrote:
That is why so many people hate Protoss.
So many different allins. Ahm, why they were hated even during WoL beta when marauders with CS were autowin button? ANd yes, I am not expecting a serious debate on this on the forum where most of the posters is terran blinded... Go Trust!!!! I am willing to enter a serious debate on that. I play random mostly, I am a former BW player (so I like Fanta) and a CJ fan (so I like Trust too) 
I play random in teamgames, I cannot enter it in 1v1 since my protoss is far more superior, and I love P from BW in fact ,-) Though I really think this forum is heavily terran favored :/
On July 25 2014 20:57 BlackCompany wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2014 20:56 deacon.frost wrote:On July 25 2014 20:54 TW wrote:
That is why so many people hate Protoss.
So many different allins. Ahm, why they were hated even during WoL beta when marauders with CS were autowin button? ANd yes, I am not expecting a serious debate on this on the forum where most of the posters is terran blinded... Go Trust!!!! A lot of the stuff in the beta worked because people didnt know how to play prperly But of course there were imbalances
I'm talking about the time when upgrade to CS wasn't existing I think it was even with rax before supply depot, though not sure about this. It's beta, it's expected to be imbalanced Though there was a serious protoss hate back then and terran love, even though P race wasn't doing the shit they are doing now(and believe me, it is horrible in PvP as well, I would much appreciate more older style when you could know what's going on more properly).
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On July 25 2014 21:01 Yello wrote:
weird opening by Fantasy. I see the idea behind it but his mineral-timing was off. Either this build is not fully-fledged or he messed it up
Catallena's mineral is terrible, builds are rarely smooth on that map.
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On July 25 2014 21:01 Yello wrote:
weird opening by Fantasy. I see the idea behind it but his mineral-timing was off. Either this build is not fully-fledged or he messed it up
Didn't Taeja do something similar against Zest? Iirc he got a lot of damage done with the 2 medivac drop. Not as strong vs the blink stalkers though.
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On July 25 2014 21:03 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2014 21:01 Yello wrote:
weird opening by Fantasy. I see the idea behind it but his mineral-timing was off. Either this build is not fully-fledged or he messed it up Catallena's mineral is terrible, builds are rarely smooth on that map.
let's make it 6 far patches and the close one not that close...
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On July 25 2014 21:03 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2014 21:01 Yello wrote:
weird opening by Fantasy. I see the idea behind it but his mineral-timing was off. Either this build is not fully-fledged or he messed it up Catallena's mineral is terrible, builds are rarely smooth on that map.
hm yeah, that could be the reason. Are the minerals like that in every spawn position or only in certain ones?
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On July 25 2014 21:03 DJHelium wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2014 21:01 Yello wrote:
weird opening by Fantasy. I see the idea behind it but his mineral-timing was off. Either this build is not fully-fledged or he messed it up Didn't Taeja do something similar against Zest? Iirc he got a lot of damage done with the 2 medivac drop. Not as strong vs the blink stalkers though.
No, it was a gas first. He won with the first Medivac drop because Zest counter-attacked with 3g stalks and multitasked nothing at home during a long time.
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On July 25 2014 21:03 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2014 21:01 Yello wrote:
weird opening by Fantasy. I see the idea behind it but his mineral-timing was off. Either this build is not fully-fledged or he messed it up Catallena's mineral is terrible, builds are rarely smooth on that map.
its alright considering it effects your opponents build also
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Trust is just basically doing what Yonghwa did
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Ok this is funny lol.
Stims into whole army trying to snipe colli to get FF'd out lol
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