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On July 07 2014 04:35 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2014 04:34 felisconcolori wrote:On July 07 2014 04:34 chipmonklord17 wrote:On July 07 2014 04:33 boxerfred wrote:On July 07 2014 04:28 jakethesnake wrote:On July 07 2014 04:27 chipmonklord17 wrote: Do people actually think this is better than roach wars? 100x better than roach wars for me. No way, roach wars are way better. Let's fight it out: Poll: What's better?Laser wars (24) 71% Roach wars (10) 29% 34 total votes Your vote: What's better? (Vote): Laser wars (Vote): Roach wars
Great idea, idk why I never thought of this Missing an option. Tank wars. nobody argues about TvT because it's the good mirror
I prefer watching PvP to TvT in general, although I do like watching different match-ups (not PvP all the time). I don't particularly dislike any match-up though.
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Most of late-game PvPs (laser wars) are kinda silly for me but I do love the phoenix vs phoenix battles. Sadly they're so rare.
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Long spawns is good for the chance to see MORE LAZERS
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On July 07 2014 04:36 SatedSC2 wrote: A lot of people talk about how positional Tank wars are and how they like TvT because of that. A lot of the same people don't give Colossus positioning any respect, probably because it's Protoss >_>;
Probably because colossus can move up and down cliffs, above their own units and don't need to siege and unsiege to move...
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On July 07 2014 04:37 Destructicon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2014 04:36 SatedSC2 wrote: A lot of people talk about how positional Tank wars are and how they like TvT because of that. A lot of the same people don't give Colossus positioning any respect, probably because it's Protoss >_>; Probably because colossus can move up and down cliffs, above their own units and don't need to siege and unsiege to move... also probably because if you mess a fight up once there's no comeback for you whereas in tvt there is always potential for a comeback
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roach war is better imo cause all is not decided in one but multiple engagements however it also means the game will draw out longer... :/
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On July 07 2014 04:37 Destructicon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2014 04:36 SatedSC2 wrote: A lot of people talk about how positional Tank wars are and how they like TvT because of that. A lot of the same people don't give Colossus positioning any respect, probably because it's Protoss >_>; Probably because colossus can move up and down cliffs, above their own units and don't need to siege and unsiege to move...
Yeah but if that's happening, the colossi are at least being microed. You don't micro sieged tanks.
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On July 07 2014 04:36 SatedSC2 wrote: A lot of people talk about how positional Tank wars are and how they like TvT because of that. A lot of the same people don't give Colossus positioning any respect, probably because it's Protoss >_>; No, it's just because TvT position is everything. Sieged tank in the right place are devastating, while with colossus the only 'position' that can help you is having a concave.... which is the case for every terran units as well^^
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On July 07 2014 04:37 Destructicon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2014 04:36 SatedSC2 wrote: A lot of people talk about how positional Tank wars are and how they like TvT because of that. A lot of the same people don't give Colossus positioning any respect, probably because it's Protoss >_>; Probably because colossus can move up and down cliffs, above their own units and don't need to siege and unsiege to move...
A bad move into a colossus concave is probably more deadly than moving into a tank line though. Also, I think comebacks are rarer in PvP in general. Both are punishing match-ups, but PvP takes it to the extreme. I guess it depends on whether or not you get kicks from watching players tread the line or not
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On July 07 2014 04:38 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2014 04:37 Destructicon wrote:On July 07 2014 04:36 SatedSC2 wrote: A lot of people talk about how positional Tank wars are and how they like TvT because of that. A lot of the same people don't give Colossus positioning any respect, probably because it's Protoss >_>; Probably because colossus can move up and down cliffs, above their own units and don't need to siege and unsiege to move... Yeah but if that's happening, the colossi are at least being microed. You don't micro sieged tanks.
You have to micro tanks a lot. Because of the fact that they don't move they have to be placed right before the engagement. And there's always leapfrogging and the like
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your Country52797 Posts
On July 07 2014 04:35 The_Templar wrote:Map: Waystation Stardust spawns in the bottom right San spawns in the top left 2:00 Gateway first for both players, followed by 2 assimilators. Stardust going for a perfectly normal scout. Cybernetics core for both players.
3:00 Stardust's perfectly normal scout is deflected to the bottom side. In its confusion it builds a pylon. Stardust realizes his mistake and sends another probe out. Stardust looks at his random pylon and decides to a stargate next to it.
4:00 Twilight council for San. San scouted and doesn't see anything. Two more gateways for San.
5:00 Stardust getting 2 more gateways as well. San scouting everywhere nearby, but Stardust's proxy is too far away. Oracle on the way. Stalkers positioned to see anything coming. Oracle runs past 3 stalkers and has to retreat.
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On July 07 2014 04:38 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2014 04:37 Destructicon wrote:On July 07 2014 04:36 SatedSC2 wrote: A lot of people talk about how positional Tank wars are and how they like TvT because of that. A lot of the same people don't give Colossus positioning any respect, probably because it's Protoss >_>; Probably because colossus can move up and down cliffs, above their own units and don't need to siege and unsiege to move... Yeah but if that's happening, the colossi are at least being microed. You don't micro sieged tanks.
Like hell you do, not focus firing with Siege Tanks is the dumbest to do.
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Belgica34432 Posts
I don't know who to cheer for
Go StarDust I guess, cause he beat Jaedong
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Where can I find that song that they play after the games? It's a remake of and old BW theme song I believe, the one with violin in it. It's a nice song.
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On July 07 2014 04:39 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2014 04:37 Destructicon wrote:On July 07 2014 04:36 SatedSC2 wrote: A lot of people talk about how positional Tank wars are and how they like TvT because of that. A lot of the same people don't give Colossus positioning any respect, probably because it's Protoss >_>; Probably because colossus can move up and down cliffs, above their own units and don't need to siege and unsiege to move... A bad move into a colossus concave is probably more deadly than moving into a tank line though. Also, I think comebacks are rarer in PvP in general. Both are punishing match-ups, but PvP takes it to the extreme. I guess it depends on whether or not you get kicks from watching players tread the line or not yeah, PvP is very unforgiving in the late game, which can make it really exciting when you get skilled players who pick their fights so carefully
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blink stalkers are so worthless compared to wol pvp
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Blink Stalkers and Stargate units. Now that's the kind of Protoss play I like.
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Oh boy - bold move from Stardust. I like that.
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On July 07 2014 04:38 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2014 04:37 Destructicon wrote:On July 07 2014 04:36 SatedSC2 wrote: A lot of people talk about how positional Tank wars are and how they like TvT because of that. A lot of the same people don't give Colossus positioning any respect, probably because it's Protoss >_>; Probably because colossus can move up and down cliffs, above their own units and don't need to siege and unsiege to move... Yeah but if that's happening, the colossi are at least being microed. You don't micro sieged tanks. Lol what..
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