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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44334 Posts
July 06 2014 19:37 GMT
#921
On July 07 2014 04:35 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2014 04:34 felisconcolori wrote:
On July 07 2014 04:34 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On July 07 2014 04:33 boxerfred wrote:
On July 07 2014 04:28 jakethesnake wrote:
On July 07 2014 04:27 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Do people actually think this is better than roach wars?

100x better than roach wars for me.

No way, roach wars are way better. Let's fight it out:

Poll: What's better?

Laser wars (24)
 
71%

Roach wars (10)
 
29%

34 total votes

Your vote: What's better?

(Vote): Laser wars
(Vote): Roach wars




Great idea, idk why I never thought of this


Missing an option. Tank wars.

nobody argues about TvT because it's the good mirror


I prefer watching PvP to TvT in general, although I do like watching different match-ups (not PvP all the time). I don't particularly dislike any match-up though.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
July 06 2014 19:37 GMT
#922
Most of late-game PvPs (laser wars) are kinda silly for me but I do love the phoenix vs phoenix battles. Sadly they're so rare.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
July 06 2014 19:37 GMT
#923
Long spawns is good for the chance to see MORE LAZERS
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Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
July 06 2014 19:37 GMT
#924
On July 07 2014 04:36 SatedSC2 wrote:
A lot of people talk about how positional Tank wars are and how they like TvT because of that. A lot of the same people don't give Colossus positioning any respect, probably because it's Protoss >_>;


Probably because colossus can move up and down cliffs, above their own units and don't need to siege and unsiege to move...
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Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
July 06 2014 19:38 GMT
#925
On July 07 2014 04:37 Destructicon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2014 04:36 SatedSC2 wrote:
A lot of people talk about how positional Tank wars are and how they like TvT because of that. A lot of the same people don't give Colossus positioning any respect, probably because it's Protoss >_>;


Probably because colossus can move up and down cliffs, above their own units and don't need to siege and unsiege to move...

also probably because if you mess a fight up once there's no comeback for you whereas in tvt there is always potential for a comeback
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
Yiome
Profile Joined February 2014
China1687 Posts
July 06 2014 19:38 GMT
#926
roach war is better imo cause all is not decided in one but multiple engagements
however it also means the game will draw out longer... :/
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44334 Posts
July 06 2014 19:38 GMT
#927
On July 07 2014 04:37 Destructicon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2014 04:36 SatedSC2 wrote:
A lot of people talk about how positional Tank wars are and how they like TvT because of that. A lot of the same people don't give Colossus positioning any respect, probably because it's Protoss >_>;


Probably because colossus can move up and down cliffs, above their own units and don't need to siege and unsiege to move...


Yeah but if that's happening, the colossi are at least being microed. You don't micro sieged tanks.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Faefae
Profile Joined June 2014
2203 Posts
July 06 2014 19:38 GMT
#928
On July 07 2014 04:36 SatedSC2 wrote:
A lot of people talk about how positional Tank wars are and how they like TvT because of that. A lot of the same people don't give Colossus positioning any respect, probably because it's Protoss >_>;

No, it's just because TvT position is everything. Sieged tank in the right place are devastating, while with colossus the only 'position' that can help you is having a concave.... which is the case for every terran units as well^^
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
July 06 2014 19:39 GMT
#929
On July 07 2014 04:37 Destructicon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2014 04:36 SatedSC2 wrote:
A lot of people talk about how positional Tank wars are and how they like TvT because of that. A lot of the same people don't give Colossus positioning any respect, probably because it's Protoss >_>;


Probably because colossus can move up and down cliffs, above their own units and don't need to siege and unsiege to move...


A bad move into a colossus concave is probably more deadly than moving into a tank line though. Also, I think comebacks are rarer in PvP in general. Both are punishing match-ups, but PvP takes it to the extreme. I guess it depends on whether or not you get kicks from watching players tread the line or not
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chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
July 06 2014 19:39 GMT
#930
On July 07 2014 04:38 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2014 04:37 Destructicon wrote:
On July 07 2014 04:36 SatedSC2 wrote:
A lot of people talk about how positional Tank wars are and how they like TvT because of that. A lot of the same people don't give Colossus positioning any respect, probably because it's Protoss >_>;


Probably because colossus can move up and down cliffs, above their own units and don't need to siege and unsiege to move...


Yeah but if that's happening, the colossi are at least being microed. You don't micro sieged tanks.


You have to micro tanks a lot. Because of the fact that they don't move they have to be placed right before the engagement. And there's always leapfrogging and the like
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
July 06 2014 19:39 GMT
#931
On July 07 2014 04:35 The_Templar wrote:
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(P)StarDust              (P)San

Score
1-0


Map: Waystation

Stardust spawns in the bottom right
San spawns in the top left

2:00
Gateway first for both players, followed by 2 assimilators.
Stardust going for a perfectly normal scout.
Cybernetics core for both players.

3:00
Stardust's perfectly normal scout is deflected to the bottom side.
In its confusion it builds a pylon.
Stardust realizes his mistake and sends another probe out.
Stardust looks at his random pylon and decides to a stargate next to it.

4:00
Twilight council for San.
San scouted and doesn't see anything.
Two more gateways for San.

5:00
Stardust getting 2 more gateways as well.
San scouting everywhere nearby, but Stardust's proxy is too far away.
Oracle on the way.
Stalkers positioned to see anything coming.
Oracle runs past 3 stalkers and has to retreat.
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Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
July 06 2014 19:40 GMT
#932
On July 07 2014 04:38 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2014 04:37 Destructicon wrote:
On July 07 2014 04:36 SatedSC2 wrote:
A lot of people talk about how positional Tank wars are and how they like TvT because of that. A lot of the same people don't give Colossus positioning any respect, probably because it's Protoss >_>;


Probably because colossus can move up and down cliffs, above their own units and don't need to siege and unsiege to move...


Yeah but if that's happening, the colossi are at least being microed. You don't micro sieged tanks.


Like hell you do, not focus firing with Siege Tanks is the dumbest to do.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
July 06 2014 19:40 GMT
#933
I don't know who to cheer for

Go StarDust I guess, cause he beat Jaedong
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_Grazze_
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
834 Posts
July 06 2014 19:40 GMT
#934
Where can I find that song that they play after the games? It's a remake of and old BW theme song I believe, the one with violin in it. It's a nice song.
jakethesnake
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada4948 Posts
July 06 2014 19:40 GMT
#935
On July 07 2014 04:39 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2014 04:37 Destructicon wrote:
On July 07 2014 04:36 SatedSC2 wrote:
A lot of people talk about how positional Tank wars are and how they like TvT because of that. A lot of the same people don't give Colossus positioning any respect, probably because it's Protoss >_>;


Probably because colossus can move up and down cliffs, above their own units and don't need to siege and unsiege to move...


A bad move into a colossus concave is probably more deadly than moving into a tank line though. Also, I think comebacks are rarer in PvP in general. Both are punishing match-ups, but PvP takes it to the extreme. I guess it depends on whether or not you get kicks from watching players tread the line or not

yeah, PvP is very unforgiving in the late game, which can make it really exciting when you get skilled players who pick their fights so carefully
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Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
July 06 2014 19:42 GMT
#936
blink stalkers are so worthless compared to wol pvp
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
July 06 2014 19:42 GMT
#937
Blink Stalkers and Stargate units. Now that's the kind of Protoss play I like.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
jakethesnake
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada4948 Posts
July 06 2014 19:42 GMT
#938
Oh boy - bold move from Stardust. I like that.
Community Newsjjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji nshoseo.jpg
Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
July 06 2014 19:42 GMT
#939
On July 07 2014 04:38 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2014 04:37 Destructicon wrote:
On July 07 2014 04:36 SatedSC2 wrote:
A lot of people talk about how positional Tank wars are and how they like TvT because of that. A lot of the same people don't give Colossus positioning any respect, probably because it's Protoss >_>;


Probably because colossus can move up and down cliffs, above their own units and don't need to siege and unsiege to move...


Yeah but if that's happening, the colossi are at least being microed. You don't micro sieged tanks.

Lol what..
Innovation | Flash | Mvp | Byun | TY
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
July 06 2014 19:42 GMT
#940
San got the starsense.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
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