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Whining about Protoss or balance will be more harshly moderated from page 90 onwards. Before making comments on race picking, refer to MLG's rules |
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On June 23 2014 05:33 PhoenixVoid wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2014 05:32 Vindicare605 wrote:On June 23 2014 05:31 Big J wrote:On June 23 2014 05:28 Xinzoe wrote:Terran confirmed hardest race ![[image loading]](http://www.picresize.com/images/rsz_scarlett.png) And TvZ as Terran confirmed easiest matchup. From what I've experienced, Zerg players tend to do very well with Terran in TvZ, mostly because so much of knowing that match up is to understand how to attack and harass a Zerg before you get steamrolled by their macro. No one understands how to attack a zerg like a zerg player. They have an innate understanding that makes them good at that match up. TvT and TvP are entirely different animals however. I meet very few Zergs that are able to wrap their heads completely around TvT. Comparing ZvZ and TvT is like comparing a vicious knife fight to a slow chess game.
you've never stabbed a rook?
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On June 23 2014 05:31 VeNoM HaZ Skill wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2014 05:30 Paljas wrote:On June 23 2014 05:27 Waise wrote:On June 23 2014 05:26 Paljas wrote:
this is actually hilarious.
i do hope tho that race switches during a match will be illegal in future tournaments if you're good enough to win with multiple races you should be able to pick whichever one you want at any time imo disagree, i dont want to watch race switches all the time because people think they can metagame each other. if you want to switch races midseries, pick random Morrow racepicked. And as we all know, he pretty much destroyed the 2011 metagame...
he didnt racepick mid series
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On June 23 2014 05:29 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2014 05:28 Disarmed wrote:On June 23 2014 05:19 Heinsenzerg wrote:On June 23 2014 05:17 Zealously wrote:On June 23 2014 05:17 Jer99 wrote:
So now instead of calling protoss OP, you heard it from her that she practiced the shit out of it You're telling me Protoss players need to practise? "Whining about Protoss or balance will be more harshly moderated from page 90 onwards." 1. "This is our house.
This is our house and you are our guests" ( 11)."Jokes exist.
Sometimes people will make them."
just to clarify (pfff)
i knew it was a joke, and i decided to keep on building on the joke
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On June 23 2014 05:32 r691175002 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2014 05:31 [17]Purple wrote:On June 23 2014 05:30 r691175002 wrote:
I am almost 100% sure the rules contain no provision for race switching after a win.
The rules explicitly state "The losing player may switch race between matches" but is silent on whether the winning player may do so.
The casters stated that "The winning player may also switch, as it is a separate rule" but no such rule is listed on the mlg website.
I'm not complaining, but I am pretty sure MLG let it slide due to her popularity. People still say this even when the rules are explicitly stated on the top of this thread? Look up Gameplay Rule 6 Rule # 6: Breaking any of Gameplay Rules #2-5 will result in a Forfeit of the Game. http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/news/starcraft-2-rules-and-settingsHow is that relevant?
Look up the link on the TOP OF THE THREAD.
http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/competitions/66?mlg_source=anaheimalertbar#event_157_rules#
Anaheim specific rules.
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Meanwhile MLG's viewership just multiplied dramatically.
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On June 23 2014 05:32 r691175002 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2014 05:31 [17]Purple wrote:On June 23 2014 05:30 r691175002 wrote:
I am almost 100% sure the rules contain no provision for race switching after a win.
The rules explicitly state "The losing player may switch race between matches" but is silent on whether the winning player may do so.
The casters stated that "The winning player may also switch, as it is a separate rule" but no such rule is listed on the mlg website.
I'm not complaining, but I am pretty sure MLG let it slide due to her popularity. People still say this even when the rules are explicitly stated on the top of this thread? Look up Gameplay Rule 6 Rule # 6: Breaking any of Gameplay Rules #2-5 will result in a Forfeit of the Game. http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/news/starcraft-2-rules-and-settingsHow is that relevant?
"Published: August 03, 2010"
http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/competitions/66?mlg_source=anaheimalertbar#event_157_rules
"2014 Anaheim Championship - SC2 HotS - Rules"
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On June 23 2014 05:29 Foreverkul wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2014 05:25 Konranjyoutai wrote:On June 23 2014 05:21 radscorpion9 wrote:On June 23 2014 05:20 sacrilegious wrote:
Aside from what she did whether it was truly legal or not (guessing the MLG rule books say it was ok), that was a history in itself BO3 series there... to race switch with the stakes on the line... holy crap that was insane she took out DRG I feel like people don't realize how important it was that DRG did three expansions so quickly. He put himself in the riskiest of positions. I mean as someone who is facing an opponent who rarely plays protoss (you would think), what's the first thing you would expect? Probably an all-in of some type, because its the easiest to execute. Yet he does the riskiest build against that. I'm not sure its so much Scarlett's victory as it was DRG's loss As Day9 stated when casting the game and DRG sacked an overlord to scout, this is how DRG holds that pressure. He mass produced queens and slow lings as that is usually all that DRG needs to hold it (you can watch his older games vs this 7 gate pressure and see the same thing). Scarlett just memorized the build order and executed it properly with stutter micro. I'm not saying that its right, but that is what happened and DRG thought he could hold. Realistically you should have to do more than just memorize a build to win a game. In general you shouldn't be able to play a whole other race at a competitive level just by practicing it a few weeks. It devalues the players of that race. This seems like a big deal for a game that is already jokingly quoted as "dead game" and the race in question is already under fire for being considered OP. u_u
All Scarlett said was that she practiced the build. She did not say if it was a few games, a few days, a few weeks, or a few years.
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On June 23 2014 05:30 r691175002 wrote:
I am almost 100% sure the rules contain no provision for race switching after a win.
The rules explicitly state "The losing player may switch race between matches" but is silent on whether the winning player may do so.
The casters stated that "The winning player may also switch, as it is a separate rule" but no such rule is listed on the mlg website.
I'm not complaining, but I am pretty sure MLG let it slide due to her popularity.
The rules for mlg anaheim have been linked a gazillion times in this thread allrdy.
Read em.
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Poll: WinnerScarlett (4) 36% Trap (3) 27% Protoss (2) 18% Polt (1) 9% RagnaroK (1) 9% viOlet (0) 0% StarDust (0) 0% 11 total votes Your vote: Winner (Vote): Polt
(Vote): viOlet
(Vote): StarDust
(Vote): RagnaroK
(Vote): Trap
(Vote): Protoss
(Vote): Scarlett
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Stardust needs more inca power
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shameful how ragnarok just racepicked zerg against scarlett, how was she supposed to know...
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On June 23 2014 05:30 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2014 05:29 Foreverkul wrote:On June 23 2014 05:25 Konranjyoutai wrote:On June 23 2014 05:21 radscorpion9 wrote:On June 23 2014 05:20 sacrilegious wrote:
Aside from what she did whether it was truly legal or not (guessing the MLG rule books say it was ok), that was a history in itself BO3 series there... to race switch with the stakes on the line... holy crap that was insane she took out DRG I feel like people don't realize how important it was that DRG did three expansions so quickly. He put himself in the riskiest of positions. I mean as someone who is facing an opponent who rarely plays protoss (you would think), what's the first thing you would expect? Probably an all-in of some type, because its the easiest to execute. Yet he does the riskiest build against that. I'm not sure its so much Scarlett's victory as it was DRG's loss As Day9 stated when casting the game and DRG sacked an overlord to scout, this is how DRG holds that pressure. He mass produced queens and slow lings as that is usually all that DRG needs to hold it (you can watch his older games vs this 7 gate pressure and see the same thing). Scarlett just memorized the build order and executed it properly with stutter micro. I'm not saying that its right, but that is what happened and DRG thought he could hold. Realistically you should have to do more than just memorize a build to win a game. In general you shouldn't be able to play a whole other race at a competitive level just by practicing it a few weeks. It devalues the players of that race. This seems like a big deal for a game that is already jokingly quoted as "dead game" and the race in question is already under fire for being considered OP. u_u She won ONE GAME. With an ALL IN. That DRG did NOTHING to scout, and he had NO speed.
Lol exactly this, seriously. And it was still close.
Don't look at this more than what it is: Scarlett pulled a fast one on DRG, and it was great.
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On June 23 2014 05:33 PhoenixVoid wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2014 05:32 Vindicare605 wrote:On June 23 2014 05:31 Big J wrote:On June 23 2014 05:28 Xinzoe wrote:Terran confirmed hardest race And TvZ as Terran confirmed easiest matchup. From what I've experienced, Zerg players tend to do very well with Terran in TvZ, mostly because so much of knowing that match up is to understand how to attack and harass a Zerg before you get steamrolled by their macro. No one understands how to attack a zerg like a zerg player. They have an innate understanding that makes them good at that match up. TvT and TvP are entirely different animals however. I meet very few Zergs that are able to wrap their heads completely around TvT. Comparing ZvZ and TvT is like comparing a vicious knife fight to a slow chess game.
The early game of TvT can be just as violent and volatile as the other mirrors. Midgame onward though you're absolutely right.
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On June 23 2014 05:34 FuRRie wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2014 05:30 r691175002 wrote:
I am almost 100% sure the rules contain no provision for race switching after a win.
The rules explicitly state "The losing player may switch race between matches" but is silent on whether the winning player may do so.
The casters stated that "The winning player may also switch, as it is a separate rule" but no such rule is listed on the mlg website.
I'm not complaining, but I am pretty sure MLG let it slide due to her popularity. The rules for mlg anaheim have been linked a gazillion times in this thread allrdy. Read em.
what if he cant read?
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On June 23 2014 05:33 chipmonklord17 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2014 05:33 Darkhorse wrote:On June 23 2014 05:32 SlammerIV wrote:Ragnarok looks a little nervouse  "Please don't Protoss me Scarlett." BTW how long do you think DRG will be in Kespa jail for losing to a foreigner's off race? byun level
And as ByuN makes his return, DRG shall sit out his punishment
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On June 23 2014 05:32 r691175002 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2014 05:31 [17]Purple wrote:On June 23 2014 05:30 r691175002 wrote:
I am almost 100% sure the rules contain no provision for race switching after a win.
The rules explicitly state "The losing player may switch race between matches" but is silent on whether the winning player may do so.
The casters stated that "The winning player may also switch, as it is a separate rule" but no such rule is listed on the mlg website.
I'm not complaining, but I am pretty sure MLG let it slide due to her popularity. People still say this even when the rules are explicitly stated on the top of this thread? Look up Gameplay Rule 6 Rule # 6: Breaking any of Gameplay Rules #2-5 will result in a Forfeit of the Game. http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/news/starcraft-2-rules-and-settingsHow is that relevant?
Those rules are from 2010. I'm not saying that page shouldn't be updated... but you can find the correct rules above or here
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On June 23 2014 05:34 Heinsenzerg wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2014 05:29 Zealously wrote:On June 23 2014 05:28 Disarmed wrote:On June 23 2014 05:19 Heinsenzerg wrote:On June 23 2014 05:17 Zealously wrote:On June 23 2014 05:17 Jer99 wrote:
So now instead of calling protoss OP, you heard it from her that she practiced the shit out of it You're telling me Protoss players need to practise? "Whining about Protoss or balance will be more harshly moderated from page 90 onwards." 1. "This is our house.
This is our house and you are our guests" ( 11)."Jokes exist.
Sometimes people will make them." just to clarify (pfff) i knew it was a joke, and i decided to keep on building on the joke
Phew. You had me worried!
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On June 23 2014 05:32 r691175002 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2014 05:31 [17]Purple wrote:On June 23 2014 05:30 r691175002 wrote:
I am almost 100% sure the rules contain no provision for race switching after a win.
The rules explicitly state "The losing player may switch race between matches" but is silent on whether the winning player may do so.
The casters stated that "The winning player may also switch, as it is a separate rule" but no such rule is listed on the mlg website.
I'm not complaining, but I am pretty sure MLG let it slide due to her popularity. People still say this even when the rules are explicitly stated on the top of this thread? Look up Gameplay Rule 6 Rule # 6: Breaking any of Gameplay Rules #2-5 will result in a Forfeit of the Game. http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/news/starcraft-2-rules-and-settingsHow is that relevant?
Maybe you should use the rules for this event and not an outdated set of rules
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