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Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
June 22 2014 06:36 GMT
#3501
On June 22 2014 15:34 eonDE wrote:
Just like in traditional sporting tournaments, the host country gets to place wildcards into the main draw by virtue of them organizing the event. In this case there are more spots for NA players into pool play. Simple.

I'm not disputing their right to do so, just pointing out the consequences. The pools were extremely one sided until the open bracket players arrived. Many mid-tier/weaker players placed highly after winning one or two series against other mid tier players, and insanely good players plowed through the open bracket only to get unceremoniously thrown out in the same place as the aforementioned mid tiers
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PepsiMaxxxx
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden5452 Posts
June 22 2014 06:36 GMT
#3502
Did we see any of Life's games, and if so. Are there some vods or rebrodcasts?
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
June 22 2014 06:37 GMT
#3503
On June 22 2014 15:36 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
Did we see any of Life's games, and if so. Are there some vods or rebrodcasts?


we saw Life vs Major, but I think that was it
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Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
June 22 2014 06:37 GMT
#3504
On June 22 2014 15:36 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
Did we see any of Life's games, and if so. Are there some vods or rebrodcasts?

Only vs Illusion and Major, which were stomps. I'm assuming vods will be put up on their youtube channel
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Superbanana
Profile Joined May 2014
2369 Posts
June 22 2014 06:41 GMT
#3505
Its a tournament focused on the american scene, stuff like this exist. Its only natural. If they want to participate in MLG after 2 days of endless open bracket its their own decision.
Redbull was also unfair, but if you know the rules and still sign in, there is no reason to complain (witch nobody did). But i do fell bad that great plays like Nestea, Jaedong and Bomber have such a long tournament for nothing.
I think they COULD reduce the amount of games if they are not going to cast them. Or at least let them play from home.
In PvZ the zerg can make the situation spire out of control but protoss can adept to the situation.
UberNuB
Profile Joined December 2010
United States365 Posts
June 22 2014 06:41 GMT
#3506
Weekend tournaments are silly, so much random downtime and so many (possibly) great games being missed.

Anyways, gratz Polt keep it up!
the absence of evidence, is not the evidence of absence.
calh
Profile Joined March 2013
537 Posts
June 22 2014 06:43 GMT
#3507
Is Day 2 done?
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 22 2014 06:43 GMT
#3508
Bomber at least got a few WCS points so I guess he didn't get nothing
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stevorino
Profile Joined April 2011
957 Posts
June 22 2014 06:43 GMT
#3509
just woke up with a massive hangover and i cannot add 1+1... is it over or are still games to come?
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Superbanana
Profile Joined May 2014
2369 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-22 06:45:02
June 22 2014 06:44 GMT
#3510
On June 22 2014 15:43 Shellshock wrote:
Bomber at least got a few WCS points so I guess he didn't get nothing

Oh, im glad
edit: day 2 is over
In PvZ the zerg can make the situation spire out of control but protoss can adept to the situation.
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
June 22 2014 06:58 GMT
#3511
No.
The Bomber boy
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
June 22 2014 07:02 GMT
#3512
On June 22 2014 15:58 Wintex wrote:
No.

Come back to defend your title?
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Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
June 22 2014 07:05 GMT
#3513
On June 22 2014 16:02 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2014 15:58 Wintex wrote:
No.

Come back to defend your title?

None of you even come close. It's fucking laughable. Shellshock did the best job. I'd have watched the games but I have to go to a questioning at the police tmrw and my circadian Rythm has been fucked.
The Bomber boy
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 22 2014 07:07 GMT
#3514
Wintex has been relegated to a Hack fanboy until he sees another Bomber game live and reclaims his title imo
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Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-22 07:17:01
June 22 2014 07:09 GMT
#3515
No.

Edit: listening to


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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
June 22 2014 07:29 GMT
#3516
I failed you
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Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10126 Posts
June 22 2014 07:33 GMT
#3517
As a format to promote the NA players is fine. The problem comes when your tournament hands WCS points and is not really accessible. Meh i am too mad for bomber to think straight right now. Even worse because i got to see zero games of him.
ToastyKen
Profile Joined September 2010
United States23 Posts
June 22 2014 07:33 GMT
#3518
I was in the audience for the final matches of Day 2.

The SC2 audience was tepid all day, far out-screamed by the Smash Bros audience to our left. So when we were all tired from 12+ hours of watching, and a few people started cheering at silly things, the whole audience got really into it, in part just to stay awake, and in part just because it was fun.

It was funny at first, and did kind of build a sense of audience comraderie, but I also felt it got a little distracting for the casters. It's hard to resist encouraging an audience so ready to scream, but at the same time it probably threw off their rhythym and diluted the moments of legitimate hype.

All together, I think it was better with the semi-fake hype than without, because we had a great time, and those games felt more awesome.

I felt a bit bad for Bomber though because it was a tough loss for him, and the audience and casters were goofing off having fun.


As for the pool vs open bracket format, even at the venue, it was tough to watch the open bracket games because there was no SC2 side stage, only a CoD side stage. We could crowd around and watch open bracket games along the edge of the pit, though we could only see one player's perspective at a time. I do think they should've had more tertiary casters casting open bracket matches...

That said, I think it's a bit pointless to argue that the pool players have an advantage because that's the point. This was intentionally designed as a tournament that favors foreigners (and North Americans in particular) while still featuring enough Koreans to make it feel legit.

Of course, the whole favoring North Americans vs worldwide equality (meaning mostly Koreans) debate is really complex and heated. I won't get into it, and you can feel free to argue about that, but MLG Anaheim 2014 was expressly designed to be unfair to Koreans, in favor of North Americans, so if we don't get to see our favorite Koreans casted, oh well, that wasn't the goal of this tournament. :\


P.S. At least there's no more stupid extended series rule! :D
stefan16
Profile Joined June 2014
103 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-22 08:42:21
June 22 2014 08:41 GMT
#3519
On June 22 2014 16:33 ToastyKen wrote:

I felt a bit bad for Bomber though because it was a tough loss for him, and the audience and casters were goofing off having fun.

That said, I think it's a bit pointless to argue that the pool players have an advantage because that's the point. This was intentionally designed as a tournament that favors foreigners (and North Americans in particular) while still featuring enough Koreans to make it feel legit.



Totally agree with you on this. I usually just watch and never really care to find out how a tournament system works, but I felt odd about a few names on the pool play and decided to find out. It's crystal clear now

Knowing that (MLG is designed for US players), it's still really odd to watch the titans butchering each other in open bracket while some players (who IMO far below these titans caliber) just sit conveniently in championship bracket's loser rounds regardless of their results. I mean, when it came down to top 18 of 200+ players, some of those names don't deserve to be there.

Then again, their country, their money, their rules

Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
June 22 2014 09:30 GMT
#3520
So Life played at 6.30am?

Well shit, I fell asleep at 5.45 tt
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