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Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2954 Posts
June 19 2014 22:26 GMT
#881
Polt is just too stubborn. His style obviously doesn't work and still he doesn't adapt at all :o
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
June 19 2014 22:26 GMT
#882
On June 20 2014 07:24 Logros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2014 07:22 Darkhorse wrote:
On June 20 2014 07:20 ssxsilver wrote:
On June 20 2014 07:19 Logros wrote:
I'd love to see a few thors mixed in.

Can you even deal with that big a muta cloud w/o thors? Those mutas are doing work.

thors don't do as much now with the muta regen and they cost an arm and a leg. Plus those bastards are so big and clumsy that they always get caught by shit. They are like ultras but even worse to keep track of.

Well his widow mine strategy obviously isn't cutting it, he's been losing the same way for 5-6 games in a row now.

Well widow mines are pretty shit against Zerg now with the reduced radius. Basically what you have to do is have Thor/Marine/Marauder/Hellbat/Medivac I guess and drop all over the place to keep mutas busy. Then you have to split like a god because you have no splash damage for banelings.
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Dimagus
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1004 Posts
June 19 2014 22:26 GMT
#883
I feel as this will skew matchup ratios for both players too much and mess with people's liquibets in the future.
xtorn
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
4060 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-19 22:27:26
June 19 2014 22:26 GMT
#884
On June 20 2014 06:18 xtorn wrote:
Poll: Will Scarlett eliminate Polt?

Yes (13)
 
81%

No (3)
 
19%

16 total votes

Your vote: Will Scarlett eliminate Polt?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No





BWAHAHAHAH <3
Life - forever the Legend in my heart
Exarl25
Profile Joined November 2010
1887 Posts
June 19 2014 22:27 GMT
#885
Honestly Thors are quite shit. Those occasional clutch shots on clumped Mutas don't make up for all the times they die to Zerglings, are too slow to get to where they need to be, die to magic boxed Mutas etc. You need a really strong army supporting them for them to be useful, that doesn't mesh with the style Polt is playing.
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
June 19 2014 22:27 GMT
#886
On June 20 2014 07:25 Darkhorse wrote:
….

Polt please win. Don't have a problem with Scarlett I think she's cool and good and whatnot but her fanboys are the most hardcore of all of them.

As if Taeja and Polt don't have legions of blind worshipers. I think I'm pretty objective about players I support, can't say the same for Hero fans.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
June 19 2014 22:27 GMT
#887
On June 20 2014 07:26 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2014 07:24 Logros wrote:
On June 20 2014 07:22 Darkhorse wrote:
On June 20 2014 07:20 ssxsilver wrote:
On June 20 2014 07:19 Logros wrote:
I'd love to see a few thors mixed in.

Can you even deal with that big a muta cloud w/o thors? Those mutas are doing work.

thors don't do as much now with the muta regen and they cost an arm and a leg. Plus those bastards are so big and clumsy that they always get caught by shit. They are like ultras but even worse to keep track of.

Well his widow mine strategy obviously isn't cutting it, he's been losing the same way for 5-6 games in a row now.

Well widow mines are pretty shit against Zerg now with the reduced radius. Basically what you have to do is have Thor/Marine/Marauder/Hellbat/Medivac I guess and drop all over the place to keep mutas busy. Then you have to split like a god because you have no splash damage for banelings.


Hellbats suck in the end game.
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imrusty269
Profile Joined January 2014
United States1404 Posts
June 19 2014 22:27 GMT
#888
Polt needs to vary his play. I saw Mvp > Scarlett and often his win was as simple as roasting drones with 10+ hellions with a thor hellbat amove follow up.
Bbyong | MMA | Polt | Dream | Maru | Mvp
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2719 Posts
June 19 2014 22:27 GMT
#889
I wonder how The_Templar will feel about this
very illegal and very uncool
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
June 19 2014 22:27 GMT
#890
On June 20 2014 07:26 Dimagus wrote:
I feel as this will skew matchup ratios for both players too much and mess with people's liquibets in the future.

Or this is representational of how good they both are at the respective matchup.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
ClueClueClue
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Sweden1203 Posts
June 19 2014 22:28 GMT
#891
Scarlett is playing really well, but so is Polt... I don't get why people say he's getting wrecked and being disappointing as the games have been really close so far. Even though I root for Scarlett, I hope Polt can take this to the last Bo3 at least!
Cogito, ergo toss.
Konranjyoutai
Profile Joined April 2012
112 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-19 22:28:56
June 19 2014 22:28 GMT
#892
On June 20 2014 07:23 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2014 07:22 Konranjyoutai wrote:
On June 20 2014 07:18 Darkhorse wrote:
On June 20 2014 07:17 Konranjyoutai wrote:
Does anyone else think Polt's drops are hurting him more than helping him? So many times he's had 1-2 drops in different bases while Scarlet wrecks his army in the center map and then just moves and cleans up his drops that do zero damage. Maybe if he kept his units together and concentrated attacks on one base at a time, he would be able to do some damage.

Then the mutas get to fly wherever they want to without having to deal with drops and then you lose all your shit everywhere because muta balls are good.



The mutas are essential in holding off a 200/200 push towards a single base, if he split and positioned himself (like he did in the one game he won this series) to posture mining bases; he could starve her out of gas and minerals. Right now he is just throwing away units at bases that are barely mining or not mining at all and then losing his entire army in the center of the map.

Not really. The strength of mutas isn't in army fights. They are useful sure but the point of banelings is to be cost effective in cleaning up an army without mutas. The strength of mutas are
1. Drop defense
2. Harass for days.


How so? Rarely have we seen Scarlet do anything with her mutas, harassment wise, until the very late game. She constantly has them with her army picking off widow mines or marauders on the front line. Sure they are great at drop defense but Polt was literally just throwing away units every single drop every single game this series. He is doing something wrong, which is why he is losing, so maybe he should change up his style. He is getting too predictable and the drops are doing next to no damage.
mikumegurine
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada3145 Posts
June 19 2014 22:28 GMT
#893
should have done gangnam style terran for this map
Josh_Video
Profile Joined August 2013
Canada798 Posts
June 19 2014 22:28 GMT
#894
On June 20 2014 07:25 Waise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2014 07:24 Green_25 wrote:
Drop style just isn't good against zerg anymore. You have to play more defensively and go for the eco war.

this is literally the exact opposite of truth


Yeah, the only map Polt has won so far has been the game where he was dropping constantly.
MKP :D ~ MMA ~ Scarlett ~ Taeja ~ Mvp ~ InnoVation ~ Polt | Prime ( RIP :( ) ~ Acer ~ SK Telecom T1 | I enjoyed the locust war of May 3, 2014.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
June 19 2014 22:28 GMT
#895
On June 20 2014 07:27 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2014 07:25 Darkhorse wrote:
….

Polt please win. Don't have a problem with Scarlett I think she's cool and good and whatnot but her fanboys are the most hardcore of all of them.

As if Taeja and Polt don't have legions of blind worshipers. I think I'm pretty objective about players I support, can't say the same for Hero fans.


All fans should be more like me.
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
June 19 2014 22:28 GMT
#896
On June 20 2014 07:27 Exarl25 wrote:
Honestly Thors are quite shit. Those occasional clutch shots on clumped Mutas don't make up for all the times they die to Zerglings, are too slow to get to where they need to be, die to magic boxed Mutas etc. You need a really strong army supporting them for them to be useful, that doesn't mesh with the style Polt is playing.

Plus it takes quite a few shots to actually kill the mutas and if they get hit and don't die they just regen up quick and go eat cheetos in your base.
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Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
June 19 2014 22:28 GMT
#897
On June 20 2014 07:27 Exarl25 wrote:
Honestly Thors are quite shit. Those occasional clutch shots on clumped Mutas don't make up for all the times they die to Zerglings, are too slow to get to where they need to be, die to magic boxed Mutas etc. You need a really strong army supporting them for them to be useful, that doesn't mesh with the style Polt is playing.

They'd also probably just prompt a faster ultra transition. Ravens, maybe?
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
xtorn
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
4060 Posts
June 19 2014 22:28 GMT
#898
Scarlett wins with TWO LIVES LEFT

(captain obvious reporting in)
Life - forever the Legend in my heart
Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
June 19 2014 22:28 GMT
#899
On June 20 2014 07:27 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2014 07:25 Darkhorse wrote:
….

Polt please win. Don't have a problem with Scarlett I think she's cool and good and whatnot but her fanboys are the most hardcore of all of them.

As if Taeja and Polt don't have legions of blind worshipers. I think I'm pretty objective about players I support, can't say the same for Hero fans.

"i don't like the fanboys" is code for "i'm annoyed when people other than myself are happy and i want to silently delight in collective misery"
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19316 Posts
June 19 2014 22:28 GMT
#900
This is insane. After Scarletts first set beating poly I was impressed. Now I check she's still alive.
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