[Red Bull BG] North America Day 1 - Page 25

On June 18 2014 06:13 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
So many lasers.

On June 18 2014 06:15 diverzee wrote:
This bully like system very much exaggerates the advantage a perceived good player has over one thought to be weak. Unless you're Taeja it does not matter how well you play - if you're constantly getting picked you will be more likely to lose since you're the only one getting the opportunity to do so.

On June 18 2014 06:03 Blargh wrote:
Am I the only person who thinks this format is terrible? Maybe I am just misunderstanding it...?

So, Puck was randomly selected to be the first person? Given the format, the less playing (ignoring losses) you do, the better, as there is no direct reward for surviving. If Puck was randomly selected to choose a player first, it seems to me that he has a disadvantage from the start, as does the player that Puck selected (Violet) because they risk taking a loss at the very beginning. As a result of a loss, it's only logical that other players would just pick that person because that is the best way to knock them out.
Since the prize pool is $3,000 split between the players left every day, it only makes sense that everyone will gang up on the first couple people to take a loss (Puck and Scarlett). Even if there were other players who are worse and would perform worse in a true round robin format, Puck and Scarlett will most likely be knocked out first.

I don't think this format is a very good representation of skill, whereas a complete round robin is generally the best representation. Though, it'd pretty likely that Polt would be one of the last ones left regardless of format.

On June 18 2014 06:15 diverzee wrote:
This bully like system very much exaggerates the advantage a perceived good player has over one thought to be weak. Unless you're Taeja it does not matter how well you play - if you're constantly getting picked you will be more likely to lose since you're the only one getting the opportunity to do so.

On June 18 2014 06:10 chipmonklord17 wrote:


Well think about it like this. If the format was just single elimination, Puck is 'disadvantaged' by being out of the tournament for losing first. I get what you're saying that he most likely will be picked often but that's only his own fault, under a different format he'd be gone already

On June 18 2014 06:15 diverzee wrote:
This bully like system very much exaggerates the advantage a perceived good player has over one thought to be weak. Unless you're Taeja it does not matter how well you play - if you're constantly getting picked you will be more likely to lose since you're the only one getting the opportunity to do so.

On June 18 2014 06:19 Blargh wrote:

Yes... But the players who were not picked first are given a massive advantage over him just because they are almost guaranteed not to be picked after someone has already lost.

Example (assuming a round robin format):
Polt goes 5-0
Violet goes 4-1
...
Puck goes 2-3
Huk goes 1-4

In this case, Huk performed worse than Puck, and so, rightfully, would not receive as much prize money.

But, in the current format, Puck was one of the first people to be chosen, and because ONE of those two HAVE to lose, they are at a disadvantage, as the loser (Puck) will then be picked more often, and thus, everyone else will be picked less often, even if they are worse players (Huk for example). [Note: I am not saying that Huk is actually the worse player, it's just an example using the round robin above.]

I think the biggest problem here is that players are not rewarded for their wins.