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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
June 17 2014 21:01 GMT
#461
On June 18 2014 06:00 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2014 05:59 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On June 18 2014 05:58 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On June 18 2014 05:58 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Jesus puck, stopping winning already.


Leave Puck alone! Leave him alone!


It's nothing against him, I just don't like to see 2 of my favorite players get beat in a row by the same player after they challanged him



It was a joke. From like multiple years ago.
+ Show Spoiler +


I had forgotten all about that years ago...
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
June 17 2014 21:02 GMT
#462
On June 18 2014 06:00 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Btw how does the OP look? It was an absolute pain to get the way I wanted.

Looks sweet. Much appreciation for the LR makers.
Ludwigvan
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany2372 Posts
June 17 2014 21:02 GMT
#463
On June 18 2014 06:00 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Btw how does the OP look? It was an absolute pain to get the way I wanted.

good work
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
June 17 2014 21:03 GMT
#464
Am I the only person who thinks this format is terrible? Maybe I am just misunderstanding it...?

So, Puck was randomly selected to be the first person? Given the format, the less playing (ignoring losses) you do, the better, as there is no direct reward for surviving. If Puck was randomly selected to choose a player first, it seems to me that he has a disadvantage from the start, as does the player that Puck selected (Violet) because they risk taking a loss at the very beginning. As a result of a loss, it's only logical that other players would just pick that person because that is the best way to knock them out.
Since the prize pool is $3,000 split between the players left every day, it only makes sense that everyone will gang up on the first couple people to take a loss (Puck and Scarlett). Even if there were other players who are worse and would perform worse in a true round robin format, Puck and Scarlett will most likely be knocked out first.

I don't think this format is a very good representation of skill, whereas a complete round robin is generally the best representation. Though, it'd pretty likely that Polt would be one of the last ones left regardless of format.
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-17 21:04:48
June 17 2014 21:03 GMT
#465
On June 18 2014 06:01 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2014 06:00 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On June 18 2014 05:59 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On June 18 2014 05:58 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On June 18 2014 05:58 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Jesus puck, stopping winning already.


Leave Puck alone! Leave him alone!


It's nothing against him, I just don't like to see 2 of my favorite players get beat in a row by the same player after they challanged him



It was a joke. From like multiple years ago.
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmvkRoEowc


I had forgotten all about that years ago...


My mind is a vat of useless knowledge

On June 18 2014 06:03 Blargh wrote:
Am I the only person who thinks this format is terrible? Maybe I am just misunderstanding it...?

So, Puck was randomly selected to be the first person? Given the format, the less playing (ignoring losses) you do, the better, as there is no direct reward for surviving. If Puck was randomly selected to choose a player first, it seems to me that he has a disadvantage from the start, as does the player that Puck selected (Violet) because they risk taking a loss at the very beginning. As a result of a loss, it's only logical that other players would just pick that person because that is the best way to knock them out.
Since the prize pool is $3,000 split between the players left every day, it only makes sense that everyone will gang up on the first couple people to take a loss (Puck and Scarlett). Even if there were other players who are worse and would perform worse in a true round robin format, Puck and Scarlett will most likely be knocked out first.

I don't think this format is a very good representation of skill, whereas a complete round robin is generally the best representation. Though, it'd pretty likely that Polt would be one of the last ones left regardless of format.


He's only 'disadvantaged' because he lost first round. If violet had lost then he'd be the one with two lives to start.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10165 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-17 21:05:02
June 17 2014 21:04 GMT
#466
On June 18 2014 05:53 Yhamm wrote:
liquipedia was not wrong, there was absolutely no information given before they shown it on stream. so it was a large guess based on the order the players qualified to the tournament, but they did'nt follow this at all

So you confuse me and then call me wrong twice when i am not actually wrong, just missled. You are an evil genius.
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
June 17 2014 21:04 GMT
#467
Haha robo goes down anyway
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
June 17 2014 21:05 GMT
#468
On June 18 2014 06:03 Blargh wrote:
Am I the only person who thinks this format is terrible? Maybe I am just misunderstanding it...?

So, Puck was randomly selected to be the first person? Given the format, the less playing (ignoring losses) you do, the better, as there is no direct reward for surviving. If Puck was randomly selected to choose a player first, it seems to me that he has a disadvantage from the start, as does the player that Puck selected (Violet) because they risk taking a loss at the very beginning. As a result of a loss, it's only logical that other players would just pick that person because that is the best way to knock them out.
Since the prize pool is $3,000 split between the players left every day, it only makes sense that everyone will gang up on the first couple people to take a loss (Puck and Scarlett). Even if there were other players who are worse and would perform worse in a true round robin format, Puck and Scarlett will most likely be knocked out first.

I don't think this format is a very good representation of skill, whereas a complete round robin is generally the best representation. Though, it'd pretty likely that Polt would be one of the last ones left regardless of format.


Don't want to be targetted, don't lose first. It's a brutal system,but it's interesting at least
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-17 21:08:50
June 17 2014 21:07 GMT
#469
On June 18 2014 06:03 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2014 06:03 Blargh wrote:
Am I the only person who thinks this format is terrible? Maybe I am just misunderstanding it...?

So, Puck was randomly selected to be the first person? Given the format, the less playing (ignoring losses) you do, the better, as there is no direct reward for surviving. If Puck was randomly selected to choose a player first, it seems to me that he has a disadvantage from the start, as does the player that Puck selected (Violet) because they risk taking a loss at the very beginning. As a result of a loss, it's only logical that other players would just pick that person because that is the best way to knock them out.
Since the prize pool is $3,000 split between the players left every day, it only makes sense that everyone will gang up on the first couple people to take a loss (Puck and Scarlett). Even if there were other players who are worse and would perform worse in a true round robin format, Puck and Scarlett will most likely be knocked out first.

I don't think this format is a very good representation of skill, whereas a complete round robin is generally the best representation. Though, it'd pretty likely that Polt would be one of the last ones left regardless of format.


He's only 'disadvantaged' because he lost first round. If violet had lost then he'd be the one with two lives to start.

Yes, but if any other player had been picked and lost, then they would be at a disadvantage. The first couple people that have to play or are picked are given a distinct disadvantage because they have the most opportunities to lose, even if they are the best player. Look at Puck, he's been in all three of them so far, which is horribly unfair. I hope he wins just because people are (logically) picking the people with the lowest lives left.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
June 17 2014 21:08 GMT
#470
Most of the picks have been the same as they would have been even if no games had happened before, so I don't think its that big of a deal.
Popkiller
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3415 Posts
June 17 2014 21:09 GMT
#471
On June 18 2014 06:03 Blargh wrote:
Am I the only person who thinks this format is terrible? Maybe I am just misunderstanding it...?

So, Puck was randomly selected to be the first person? Given the format, the less playing (ignoring losses) you do, the better, as there is no direct reward for surviving. If Puck was randomly selected to choose a player first, it seems to me that he has a disadvantage from the start, as does the player that Puck selected (Violet) because they risk taking a loss at the very beginning. As a result of a loss, it's only logical that other players would just pick that person because that is the best way to knock them out.
Since the prize pool is $3,000 split between the players left every day, it only makes sense that everyone will gang up on the first couple people to take a loss (Puck and Scarlett). Even if there were other players who are worse and would perform worse in a true round robin format, Puck and Scarlett will most likely be knocked out first.

I don't think this format is a very good representation of skill, whereas a complete round robin is generally the best representation. Though, it'd pretty likely that Polt would be one of the last ones left regardless of format.


Even if Polt was first and happened to lose, I don't think many other people would pick him next. Puck is seen as the weakest player, so people were going to pick him anyway, whether he went first or not.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10165 Posts
June 17 2014 21:09 GMT
#472
Yeah pretty sure that Scarlett and Huk would had chosen Puck anyways.
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
June 17 2014 21:10 GMT
#473
On June 18 2014 06:07 Blargh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2014 06:03 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On June 18 2014 06:03 Blargh wrote:
Am I the only person who thinks this format is terrible? Maybe I am just misunderstanding it...?

So, Puck was randomly selected to be the first person? Given the format, the less playing (ignoring losses) you do, the better, as there is no direct reward for surviving. If Puck was randomly selected to choose a player first, it seems to me that he has a disadvantage from the start, as does the player that Puck selected (Violet) because they risk taking a loss at the very beginning. As a result of a loss, it's only logical that other players would just pick that person because that is the best way to knock them out.
Since the prize pool is $3,000 split between the players left every day, it only makes sense that everyone will gang up on the first couple people to take a loss (Puck and Scarlett). Even if there were other players who are worse and would perform worse in a true round robin format, Puck and Scarlett will most likely be knocked out first.

I don't think this format is a very good representation of skill, whereas a complete round robin is generally the best representation. Though, it'd pretty likely that Polt would be one of the last ones left regardless of format.


He's only 'disadvantaged' because he lost first round. If violet had lost then he'd be the one with two lives to start.

Yes, but if any other player had been picked and lost, then they would be at a disadvantage. The first couple people to be picked at given a distinct disadvantage because they have the most opportunities to lose, even if they are the best player. Look at Puck, he's been in all three of them so far, which is horribly unfair. I hope he wins just because people are (logically) picking the people with the lowest lives left.


Well think about it like this. If the format was just single elimination, Puck is 'disadvantaged' by being out of the tournament for losing first. I get what you're saying that he most likely will be picked often but that's only his own fault, under a different format he'd be gone already
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
June 17 2014 21:10 GMT
#474
On June 18 2014 06:04 Godwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2014 05:53 Yhamm wrote:
liquipedia was not wrong, there was absolutely no information given before they shown it on stream. so it was a large guess based on the order the players qualified to the tournament, but they did'nt follow this at all

So you confuse me and then call me wrong twice when i am not actually wrong, just missled. You are an evil genius.

well, once I know what is right, I can call you wrong
LiquipediaWe will have only each other at the last
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
June 17 2014 21:12 GMT
#475
Poll: Recommend HuK's Challenge Game 2?

★- Do not see this game no matter what (0)
 
0%

★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (2)
 
25%

★★★- Good game (5)
 
63%

★★★★- Highly recommended game (1)
 
13%

★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

8 total votes

Your vote: Recommend HuK's Challenge Game 2?

(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season

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TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
June 17 2014 21:12 GMT
#476
WOOW WHAT IS HAPPENING
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
June 17 2014 21:12 GMT
#477
Oh god, what's happening?
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-17 21:13:14
June 17 2014 21:12 GMT
#478
Earthquake?
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
June 17 2014 21:13 GMT
#479
Anyway, good game. I'm really hating PvP less and less lately
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
June 17 2014 21:13 GMT
#480
I think the acid just kicked in
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
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