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KingofGods
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1218 Posts
June 15 2014 22:33 GMT
#3401
On June 16 2014 07:33 nkr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2014 07:33 KingofGods wrote:
On June 16 2014 07:31 kaykoose wrote:
On June 16 2014 07:30 Destructicon wrote:
I was hoping for ForGG to win that game so I'd have a cool new build to copy and destroy Toss on ladder + boost my TvP win rate to enough to slip into masters. Unfortunately I got this...


You can still try this build. The protoss you're playing aren't First



But honestly if mech couldn't even beat mass stalkers with a couple immortals, what exactly can it beat?


zerg


Until zerg make a few mutas.
Kyyuna
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1222 Posts
June 15 2014 22:34 GMT
#3402
Was DH summer always 3days? Same with Winter right?

I know the smaller venues were 2 day events.

Been sometime since last DH so I lost track.
imrusty269
Profile Joined January 2014
United States1404 Posts
June 15 2014 22:34 GMT
#3403
On June 16 2014 07:28 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2014 07:25 Destructicon wrote:
I actually think ForGG might have been ok in that attack at First's 3rd if he had an armory and transformed all those hellions into hellbats. First would had at least 50% more buffer to chew trough before he got to the tanks.


Yeah, and if he actually used siege mode.


Because a pro terran player just happen to forget to siege up his tanks.
Siege tank is meaningless if you can't prevent stalkers to close the distance, and it does terrible against immortal.
Bbyong | MMA | Polt | Dream | Maru | Mvp
kaykoose
Profile Joined February 2014
United States2302 Posts
June 15 2014 22:34 GMT
#3404
On June 16 2014 07:33 KingofGods wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2014 07:31 kaykoose wrote:
On June 16 2014 07:30 Destructicon wrote:
I was hoping for ForGG to win that game so I'd have a cool new build to copy and destroy Toss on ladder + boost my TvP win rate to enough to slip into masters. Unfortunately I got this...


You can still try this build. The protoss you're playing aren't First



But honestly if mech couldn't even beat mass stalkers with a couple immortals, what exactly can it beat?


Don't get me wrong.. mech sucks lol. But you can catch a diamond protoss off guard with this build for sure.
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
June 15 2014 22:34 GMT
#3405
On June 16 2014 07:33 KingofGods wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2014 07:31 kaykoose wrote:
On June 16 2014 07:30 Destructicon wrote:
I was hoping for ForGG to win that game so I'd have a cool new build to copy and destroy Toss on ladder + boost my TvP win rate to enough to slip into masters. Unfortunately I got this...


You can still try this build. The protoss you're playing aren't First



But honestly if mech couldn't even beat mass stalkers with a couple immortals, what exactly can it beat?

Zerg.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
June 15 2014 22:35 GMT
#3406
On June 16 2014 07:34 imrusty269 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2014 07:28 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On June 16 2014 07:25 Destructicon wrote:
I actually think ForGG might have been ok in that attack at First's 3rd if he had an armory and transformed all those hellions into hellbats. First would had at least 50% more buffer to chew trough before he got to the tanks.


Yeah, and if he actually used siege mode.


Because a pro terran player just happen to forget to siege up his tanks.
Siege tank is meaningless if you can't prevent stalkers to close the distance, and it does terrible against immortal.


If you're not in a position where siege mode is useful, you're not in a position to win as mech.
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
June 15 2014 22:36 GMT
#3407
To be honest I really don't want SC2 mech to ever be viable. I've said it often and I'll say it again. SC2 mech is boring and doesn't capture the spirit of BW. Its a very polarizing composition, its either gonna be OP or UP but regardless of that it produces some really boring game akin to SH or BL/Infestor of old.
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
KingofGods
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1218 Posts
June 15 2014 22:36 GMT
#3408
On June 16 2014 07:34 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2014 07:33 KingofGods wrote:
On June 16 2014 07:31 kaykoose wrote:
On June 16 2014 07:30 Destructicon wrote:
I was hoping for ForGG to win that game so I'd have a cool new build to copy and destroy Toss on ladder + boost my TvP win rate to enough to slip into masters. Unfortunately I got this...


You can still try this build. The protoss you're playing aren't First



But honestly if mech couldn't even beat mass stalkers with a couple immortals, what exactly can it beat?

Zerg.


Until the zerg make a few mutas.
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
June 15 2014 22:36 GMT
#3409
On June 16 2014 07:34 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2014 07:33 KingofGods wrote:
On June 16 2014 07:31 kaykoose wrote:
On June 16 2014 07:30 Destructicon wrote:
I was hoping for ForGG to win that game so I'd have a cool new build to copy and destroy Toss on ladder + boost my TvP win rate to enough to slip into masters. Unfortunately I got this...


You can still try this build. The protoss you're playing aren't First



But honestly if mech couldn't even beat mass stalkers with a couple immortals, what exactly can it beat?

Zerg.


SH included ?
RIP MKP
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-15 22:36:45
June 15 2014 22:36 GMT
#3410
On June 16 2014 07:33 KingofGods wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2014 07:31 kaykoose wrote:
On June 16 2014 07:30 Destructicon wrote:
I was hoping for ForGG to win that game so I'd have a cool new build to copy and destroy Toss on ladder + boost my TvP win rate to enough to slip into masters. Unfortunately I got this...


You can still try this build. The protoss you're playing aren't First



But honestly if mech couldn't even beat mass stalkers with a couple immortals, what exactly can it beat?

Terran and Zerg. Mainly Terran.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
June 15 2014 22:37 GMT
#3411
On June 16 2014 07:36 royalroadweed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2014 07:33 KingofGods wrote:
On June 16 2014 07:31 kaykoose wrote:
On June 16 2014 07:30 Destructicon wrote:
I was hoping for ForGG to win that game so I'd have a cool new build to copy and destroy Toss on ladder + boost my TvP win rate to enough to slip into masters. Unfortunately I got this...


You can still try this build. The protoss you're playing aren't First



But honestly if mech couldn't even beat mass stalkers with a couple immortals, what exactly can it beat?

Terran and Zerg. Mainly Terran.


Protoss

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royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
June 15 2014 22:37 GMT
#3412
If I were forgg and it was 2 in the morning I would have just proxy rax in his base maru style.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
kaykoose
Profile Joined February 2014
United States2302 Posts
June 15 2014 22:37 GMT
#3413
I miss BW mech
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
June 15 2014 22:37 GMT
#3414
On June 16 2014 07:36 shid0x wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2014 07:34 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On June 16 2014 07:33 KingofGods wrote:
On June 16 2014 07:31 kaykoose wrote:
On June 16 2014 07:30 Destructicon wrote:
I was hoping for ForGG to win that game so I'd have a cool new build to copy and destroy Toss on ladder + boost my TvP win rate to enough to slip into masters. Unfortunately I got this...


You can still try this build. The protoss you're playing aren't First



But honestly if mech couldn't even beat mass stalkers with a couple immortals, what exactly can it beat?

Zerg.


SH included ?

Do you have a lot of time? If yes, I can recommend GoOdy vs Hanfy, from some EPS cup last year. It was beautiful.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-15 22:38:09
June 15 2014 22:37 GMT
#3415
I always found it kind of weird how David Kim was so insistent on making sure Zerg and Protoss can use any tech path, but hasn't really done anything for MechvP for 4 years.
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Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8160 Posts
June 15 2014 22:38 GMT
#3416
On June 16 2014 07:37 stuchiu wrote:
I always found it kind of weird how David Kim was so insistent on making sure Zerg and Protoss can use any tech path, but hasn't really done anything for MechvP for 4 years.


What? They removed mobeius reactor, which increases mech effectiveness
StrategyTaeJa #1 || @TL_Jer99 || "seeker seeked out his seeking"
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
June 15 2014 22:38 GMT
#3417
On June 16 2014 07:37 royalroadweed wrote:
If I were forgg and it was 2 in the morning I would have just proxy rax in his base maru style.


Kind of hard to do on 4 player maps
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
June 15 2014 22:38 GMT
#3418
On June 16 2014 07:37 stuchiu wrote:
I always found it kind of weird how David Kim was so insistent on making sure Zerg and Protoss can use any tech path, but hasn't really done anything for MechvP for 4 years.

I mean the only time they really tried that we got warhounds.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
June 15 2014 22:38 GMT
#3419
On June 16 2014 07:34 Kyyuna wrote:
Was DH summer always 3days? Same with Winter right?

I know the smaller venues were 2 day events.

Been sometime since last DH so I lost track.

Summer and Winter are always 3 days yes
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
June 15 2014 22:39 GMT
#3420
On June 16 2014 07:37 stuchiu wrote:
I always found it kind of weird how David Kim was so insistent on making sure Zerg and Protoss can use any tech path, but hasn't really done anything for MechvP for 4 years.

I lose to mech on ladder all the time
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