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SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
April 10 2014 19:00 GMT
#281
On April 11 2014 03:57 packrat386 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2014 03:57 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I'm sorry ESL, but I have to turn adblock back on until twitch fixes their stupid super laggy unmuteable ads. My internet almost crashes every commercial break

Perhaps it might be your internet, I'm getting the ads just fine and I'm not experiencing any lag.

I always have a browser on with low quality and muted, but if you watch with ads, I especially hate how they seem to lag your entire stream AND are much higher in sound. I mean, I don't need the entire building to hear about some random ad...
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
April 10 2014 19:00 GMT
#282
On April 11 2014 03:59 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2014 03:57 ThomasjServo wrote:
On April 11 2014 03:55 Big J wrote:
On April 11 2014 03:54 Caladan wrote:
Typical PvP in 2014. If you are saying otherwise, you clearly haven't seen the last top tier PvPs.


One could say, based upon these games, MC seems to really understand PvP and is a toplevel player in that matchup.

I think Mc understands how to play a series better than just about anyone more than anything


I dunno. There was this dude called Mvp.

Hence the "just about" :p
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
April 10 2014 19:00 GMT
#283
On April 11 2014 03:56 Greenei wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2014 03:53 Zealously wrote:
On April 11 2014 03:52 Crot4le wrote:
On April 11 2014 03:51 Big J wrote:
On April 11 2014 03:50 Crot4le wrote:
I'd like to see a game played straight up. This cheese is a little anti-climactic if you ask me.


That was straight up PvP. Not doing this would be pretty weird, seeing how well it works.


By straight up I meant based on skill, not a roll of the dice.


Games like this are highly skill-based even if you don't enjoy watching them.


How are they skill based? You mean skillbased like RPS?


I mean like a game where you don't win unless you play your cards right - that includes staying on top of micro and decision making, because the match-up lies on a razors edge. The idea that PvP is all about luck is ridiculous and the people that think MC lucked his way to two wins in a row simply don't know the game well enough. If these games weren't skill-based, any GM player would have been able to beat Stardust twice, and that's really not the case.
AdministratorBreak the chains
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
April 10 2014 19:00 GMT
#284
On April 11 2014 03:57 packrat386 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2014 03:57 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I'm sorry ESL, but I have to turn adblock back on until twitch fixes their stupid super laggy unmuteable ads. My internet almost crashes every commercial break

Perhaps it might be your internet, I'm getting the ads just fine and I'm not experiencing any lag.


No it's the ads themselves. They come from some shit server in Canada, and the ad itself tries to load multiple videos at the same time as sort of a multilayed ad. I've messaged twitch about it multiple times, but it's not like they give a shit.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
April 10 2014 19:00 GMT
#285
I'm sad no Protoss is Swag enough to do the MVP 3 gate.
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BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
April 10 2014 19:01 GMT
#286
On April 11 2014 04:00 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2014 03:57 packrat386 wrote:
On April 11 2014 03:57 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I'm sorry ESL, but I have to turn adblock back on until twitch fixes their stupid super laggy unmuteable ads. My internet almost crashes every commercial break

Perhaps it might be your internet, I'm getting the ads just fine and I'm not experiencing any lag.


No it's the ads themselves. They come from some shit server in Canada, and the ad itself tries to load multiple videos at the same time as sort of a multilayed ad. I've messaged twitch about it multiple times, but it's not like they give a shit.


"Soon"
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
April 10 2014 19:01 GMT
#287
Yummy, oracles!
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44051 Posts
April 10 2014 19:01 GMT
#288
Dark templar vs. oracle.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
April 10 2014 19:01 GMT
#289
On April 11 2014 04:00 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2014 03:56 Greenei wrote:
On April 11 2014 03:53 Zealously wrote:
On April 11 2014 03:52 Crot4le wrote:
On April 11 2014 03:51 Big J wrote:
On April 11 2014 03:50 Crot4le wrote:
I'd like to see a game played straight up. This cheese is a little anti-climactic if you ask me.


That was straight up PvP. Not doing this would be pretty weird, seeing how well it works.


By straight up I meant based on skill, not a roll of the dice.


Games like this are highly skill-based even if you don't enjoy watching them.


How are they skill based? You mean skillbased like RPS?


I mean like a game where you don't win unless you play your cards right - that includes staying on top of micro and decision making, because the match-up lies on a razors edge. The idea that PvP is all about luck is ridiculous and the people that think MC lucked his way to two wins in a row simply don't know the game well enough. If these games weren't skill-based, any GM player would have been able to beat Stardust twice, and that's really not the case.

Zealously explains what I wrote a lot better. Listen to him!
+ Show Spoiler [my post] +

On April 11 2014 03:58 SC2Toastie wrote:
PvP is a very hard matchup to grasp. There's a lot of metagaming, tiny windows, high potential for risks and aggression. It's a very tough matchup to enjoy if you don't understand what is going on.
An ofcourse, the tech choice is usually blind, which sometimes causes silly shit, but mostly, if you look very carefully, not a single player randomly pulls the killswitch in a normal game - there's always a sign of weakness.

Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
April 10 2014 19:01 GMT
#290
On April 11 2014 04:00 stuchiu wrote:
I'm sad no Protoss is Swag enough to do the MVP 3 gate.

I heard only Swagho approved players can use that build.
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Caladan
Profile Joined May 2008
Germany1238 Posts
April 10 2014 19:01 GMT
#291
Two players going for different blind techs without being able to scout each other.
Hm...
FuRRie
Profile Joined February 2009
Belgium815 Posts
April 10 2014 19:02 GMT
#292
On April 11 2014 03:57 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I'm sorry ESL, but I have to turn adblock back on until twitch fixes their stupid super laggy unmuteable ads. My internet almost crashes every commercial break


No Adblock and I don't get adds, I love ESL.

Unlike the commecial spam I get from other companies :p
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
April 10 2014 19:02 GMT
#293
No, don't move out now!
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
April 10 2014 19:02 GMT
#294
On April 11 2014 04:02 FuRRie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2014 03:57 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I'm sorry ESL, but I have to turn adblock back on until twitch fixes their stupid super laggy unmuteable ads. My internet almost crashes every commercial break


No Adblock and I don't get adds, I love ESL.

Unlike the commecial spam I get from other companies :p

I'm in Belgium too, and I'm getting commercials
Community News
TL+ Member
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
April 10 2014 19:02 GMT
#295
MY GOD. I just now realised that I was watching WCS AM stream. Idk how its possible but AM stream is laggier than EU :/
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
April 10 2014 19:02 GMT
#296
Stardust isn't praying hard enough to Inca right now.
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SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
April 10 2014 19:02 GMT
#297
On April 11 2014 04:01 Caladan wrote:
Two players going for different blind techs without being able to scout each other.
Hm...

Hallucination scout and MSC/Stalkers give enough information to not die to a tech. Stop with the blind hate dude.
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44051 Posts
April 10 2014 19:05 GMT
#298
Stardust only makes 1 robo bay this game... interesting.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
April 10 2014 19:06 GMT
#299
On April 11 2014 04:01 Caladan wrote:
Two players going for different blind techs without being able to scout each other.
Hm...


Was Hallucination removed?
AdministratorBreak the chains
FuRRie
Profile Joined February 2009
Belgium815 Posts
April 10 2014 19:06 GMT
#300
On April 11 2014 04:02 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2014 04:02 FuRRie wrote:
On April 11 2014 03:57 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I'm sorry ESL, but I have to turn adblock back on until twitch fixes their stupid super laggy unmuteable ads. My internet almost crashes every commercial break


No Adblock and I don't get adds, I love ESL.

Unlike the commecial spam I get from other companies :p

I'm in Belgium too, and I'm getting commercials


odd :/

Anyway, i wouldn't mind comemrcials on ESL, The game to commercial ratio is still good .
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