On April 18 2014 10:05 TechNoTrance wrote:
Looool that was fun. Time to check avilos twitter.
Looool that was fun. Time to check avilos twitter.
Cool to see you play in the qualifier btw, too bad you got knocked out :/
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Yorkie
United States12612 Posts
On April 18 2014 10:05 TechNoTrance wrote: Looool that was fun. Time to check avilos twitter. Cool to see you play in the qualifier btw, too bad you got knocked out :/ | ||
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Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
Reminds me of the old phrase, "Who is more scrub, the scrub or the scrub that loses to him?" | ||
Hider
Denmark9384 Posts
On April 18 2014 10:03 Yorkie wrote: Show nested quote + On April 18 2014 10:01 Hider wrote: wrong On April 18 2014 09:46 Undead1993 wrote: mb he realized that his probe didn't quite make it to the spot where it needs to and sent it back? could it be? Muscious that's nonsense, and I don't you really understand the point I am making. Read what I wrote in my first post: "When you shiftclick a probe around the map to scout for expo your never actually gonna realize if you misshiftclicked it." In order for people to argue that I was wrong, the argument would need to be presented in such a way that it is likely that someone actually realize when you misshiftclick scout. I never as a player actually ever discovered when I misshiftclicked scouting. Furhter, I have never seen such a thing happen before in other games (and I watched alot alot). So to me it simply seemed that the probability as streamcheating as higher than someone realizing a misshiftclicking. Are you a grandmaster protoss on a professional gaming team? I'm not trying to belittle you, but a highly skilled and practiced player is far more likely to spot such an error Maybe, I have just never seen such a thing happen before. One would need to intentionally stare at the precise area of the minimap in order to spot the mistake. If your just normally skimming it with the perify of your eye, your only gonna spot enemy movement, not the exact location of your scouting probe. A highly skilled player is also more likely to shift click his probe around the map correctly, thus he is unlikely to make such a mistake in the first place, so he shouldn't have practice in spotting shiftclick errors with scouting worker. I mean its very possible I am wrong, I just find the whole thing really seem really unlikely. | ||
ilikeredheads
Canada1995 Posts
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WTCO
United States646 Posts
On April 18 2014 10:07 Darkhorse wrote: https://twitter.com/avilosc2/status/456961936706392065 Reminds me of the old phrase, "Who is more scrub, the scrub or the scrub that loses to him?" Is Avilo the long lost twin of IdrA? | ||
TechNoTrance
Canada1007 Posts
On April 18 2014 10:06 Yorkie wrote: Show nested quote + On April 18 2014 10:05 TechNoTrance wrote: Looool that was fun. Time to check avilos twitter. Cool to see you play in the qualifier btw, too bad you got knocked out :/ Haha yeah ![]() | ||
mostevil
United Kingdom611 Posts
On April 18 2014 10:07 Darkhorse wrote: https://twitter.com/avilosc2/status/456961936706392065 Haha, he's an angry wee fella isn't he :D | ||
Yorkie
United States12612 Posts
On April 18 2014 10:07 ilikeredheads wrote: what did avilo say in the chat at the end of the game? Good job a-moving into siege tanks | ||
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On April 18 2014 10:07 Hider wrote: Show nested quote + On April 18 2014 10:03 Yorkie wrote: On April 18 2014 10:01 Hider wrote: wrong On April 18 2014 09:46 Undead1993 wrote: mb he realized that his probe didn't quite make it to the spot where it needs to and sent it back? could it be? Muscious that's nonsense, and I don't you really understand the point I am making. Read what I wrote in my first post: "When you shiftclick a probe around the map to scout for expo your never actually gonna realize if you misshiftclicked it." In order for people to argue that I was wrong, the argument would need to be presented in such a way that it is likely that someone actually realize when you misshiftclick scout. I never as a player actually ever discovered when I misshiftclicked scouting. Furhter, I have never seen such a thing happen before in other games (and I watched alot alot). So to me it simply seemed that the probability as streamcheating as higher than someone realizing a misshiftclicking. Are you a grandmaster protoss on a professional gaming team? I'm not trying to belittle you, but a highly skilled and practiced player is far more likely to spot such an error Maybe, I have just never seen such a thing happen before. One would need to intentionally stare at the precise area of the minimap in order to spot the mistake. If your just normally skimming it with the perify of your eye, your only gonna spot enemy movement, not the exact location of your scouting probe. But I just said I do that all the time. | ||
Waise
3165 Posts
On April 18 2014 10:07 ilikeredheads wrote: what did avilo say in the chat at the end of the game? "gj, sick 1a into sieged tanks" | ||
Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On April 18 2014 10:01 Hider wrote: Show nested quote + wrong On April 18 2014 09:46 Undead1993 wrote: mb he realized that his probe didn't quite make it to the spot where it needs to and sent it back? could it be? Muscious that's not adressing my point. Read what I wrote in my first post: Show nested quote + When you shiftclick a probe around the map to scout for expo your never actually gonna realize if you misshiftclicked it. In order for people to argue that I was wrong, the argument would need to be presented in such a way that it is likely that someone actually realize when you misshiftclick scout. I never as a player actually ever discovered when I misshiftclicked scouting, and I have never seen such a thing happen before in other games (and I watched alot alot). So to me it simply seemed that the probability as streamcheating as higher than someone realizing a misshiftclicking. You never shiftclicked a worker via minimap and then afterwards sent the same probe back to a certain position when you realise there is still fog of war left and you didn't send it far enough? Happened to me a lot of times. Also you are saying he sent his probe back 10 seconds afterwards, because he listened to stream, but there is several minutes delay on the stream. Btw we don't have to prove anything, you have to prove he did streamcheat. If you can't do that you should simply never throw accusations like that around. It's more serious than you might think. | ||
Yorkie
United States12612 Posts
On April 18 2014 10:08 TechNoTrance wrote: Show nested quote + On April 18 2014 10:06 Yorkie wrote: On April 18 2014 10:05 TechNoTrance wrote: Looool that was fun. Time to check avilos twitter. Cool to see you play in the qualifier btw, too bad you got knocked out :/ Haha yeah ![]() You got this man! | ||
WTCO
United States646 Posts
On April 18 2014 10:07 ilikeredheads wrote: what did avilo say in the chat at the end of the game? Paraphrasing but something like "gj. 1a into siege tanks" | ||
ETisME
12393 Posts
On April 18 2014 10:06 Darkhorse wrote: Show nested quote + On April 18 2014 10:01 Hider wrote: wrong On April 18 2014 09:46 Undead1993 wrote: mb he realized that his probe didn't quite make it to the spot where it needs to and sent it back? could it be? Muscious that's not adressing my point. Read what I wrote in my first post: When you shiftclick a probe around the map to scout for expo your never actually gonna realize if you misshiftclicked it. In order for people to argue that I was wrong, the argument would need to be presented in such a way that it is likely that someone actually realize when you misshiftclick scout. I never as a player actually ever discovered when I misshiftclicked scouting, and I have never seen such a thing happen before in other games (and I watched alot alot). So to me it simply seemed that the probability as streamcheating as higher than someone realizing a misshiftclicking. It's not hard to look at the minimap and realize your worker didn't get as close to the base as would be needed to scout it, and then send it back to make sure. Definitely not hard, I do that fairly often myself. | ||
Yorkie
United States12612 Posts
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Heavenlee
United States966 Posts
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Was 1 day really enough to fix his ZvP? 0.0 | ||
ilikeredheads
Canada1995 Posts
immortal too much of a hard counter | ||
Waise
3165 Posts
On April 18 2014 10:09 Musicus wrote: Show nested quote + On April 18 2014 10:01 Hider wrote: wrong On April 18 2014 09:46 Undead1993 wrote: mb he realized that his probe didn't quite make it to the spot where it needs to and sent it back? could it be? Muscious that's not adressing my point. Read what I wrote in my first post: When you shiftclick a probe around the map to scout for expo your never actually gonna realize if you misshiftclicked it. In order for people to argue that I was wrong, the argument would need to be presented in such a way that it is likely that someone actually realize when you misshiftclick scout. I never as a player actually ever discovered when I misshiftclicked scouting, and I have never seen such a thing happen before in other games (and I watched alot alot). So to me it simply seemed that the probability as streamcheating as higher than someone realizing a misshiftclicking. You never shiftclicked a worker via minimap and then afterwards sent the same probe back to a certain position when you realise there is still fog of war left and you didn't send it far enough? Happened to me a lot of times. Also you are saying he sent his probe back 10 seconds afterwards, because he listened to stream, but there is several minutes delay on the stream. Btw we don't have to prove anything, you have to proof he did streamcheat. If you can't do that you should simply never throw accusations like that around. It's more serious than you might think. it's especially damaging and unfair to make those accusations against a player who's contracted with a professional team. avilo can say whatever he wants and his stream fans will probably love him for it no matter what, but a pro player with a job and a work ethic has to be concerned about reputation and cheating accusations. not a classy look | ||
Undead1993
Germany17651 Posts
On April 18 2014 10:10 Heavenlee wrote: Unfortunately sitting there with siege tanks and not focus firing anything while just staring at the battle is less effective than a 1a, which at least requires two clicks. if he just scans one single time he kills the observer with his vikings and then free damage hooraaay but no he will just sit there and look how the immortals move through siege tnaks | ||
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