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France9034 Posts
On March 07 2014 04:07 Ragnarork wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2014 04:05 Ragnarork wrote:On March 07 2014 04:03 Ragnarork wrote:On March 07 2014 04:00 Ragnarork wrote:0:00 - Welmu spawns at the top - Starbuck spawns at the bottom 2:00 - Pool first then hatch - Gate and one gas for Welmu - gas for Starbuck - Nexus at the natural - second gas for Welmu - Ling Speed started 5:00 - Forge dropped by Welmu - A third hatch for Starbuck - 2 gates added at the nat's wall - + 1 ground attack for Welmu - Roach warren for Starbuck - Lings poke at the natural 8:00 - Twilight council started, as well as a third nexus - Infestation pit added by Starbuck - Oh, canceld, and instead, Hydra den - Blink and + 2 attack for Welmu - Robo added, as well as gates - Infestation pit started again
10:30
- Lings poke the natural, but forcefields + wall-in and they die for nothing
- Starbuck starting to spread his creep across the map
- Welmu moving onto creep and gets at the third of Starbuck
- Drones escape NOPE BLINK
- A lot of forcefields + timewarp, many drones die
- The 3rd survives
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Ugh, just sack the third there, you can just add more SH and re-expand. Save the drones and he's fine. Now he's likely dead.
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On March 07 2014 04:04 NovaMB wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2014 04:03 sharkie wrote:
why are protoss players complaining about swarmhosts?
Korean protoss are destroying any swarmhost play or lategame zerg atm. Because Korean Zergs are either too proud or too stupid to use the EU style
Yes. I must have missed all the EU zergs beating Korean protoss.
We don't have 2012...
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On March 07 2014 04:07 Qwerty85 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2014 04:06 Squat wrote:On March 07 2014 04:03 Qwerty85 wrote:On March 07 2014 04:01 D-light wrote:
I guess you can't let the zerg get into broodlord+inf... swarmhost+viper+stuff.
Predicting an all-in by Welmu. Zergs have been saying the same against mass tempest play. So I guess late game PvZ is balanced? The whole MU is a giant pendulum of stupid, it swings both ways in uniquely infuriating and moronic ways. What you just saw is the optimal way to play ZvP lategame. Welcome to the new meta. Yeah I guess the late game differences are result of different ways of playing SH in EU and Korea.
Maps play big role in that. Heavy rain and Yeonsu are only maps where that very passive sh playstyle works.
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On March 07 2014 04:09 IntoTheheart wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2014 04:02 Darkhorse wrote:On March 07 2014 04:01 Ragnarork wrote:On March 07 2014 04:00 Darkhorse wrote:On March 07 2014 03:59 Shellshock wrote:On March 07 2014 03:58 Ragnarork wrote:On March 07 2014 03:45 Amestir wrote:
Poor Ragnarok, offers to live report, immediatly gets a hour+ game ^^ Lol, finally, quite not. (And don't forget that "r" before the "k" damnit !  ) Darkhoarse probably knows someone that can get that pesky extra letter removed I know a guy. It's not strictly legal, and you'll have to pay in cash. But I want a letter added. Does he do that also ? Are you serious? You can do serious time for that shit. Like 2 weeks in TL-. He won't do that for less than 10 bitcoins. TL- actually sounds like a cool idea. Luckily I know a guy who can bust you out.
No one can break out of maximum security TL-. It can't be done! Tons have tried and they have all failed.
This would be the best Starcraft related movie since Liquid Rising.
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On March 07 2014 04:10 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2014 04:04 NovaMB wrote:On March 07 2014 04:03 sharkie wrote:
why are protoss players complaining about swarmhosts?
Korean protoss are destroying any swarmhost play or lategame zerg atm. Because Korean Zergs are either too proud or too stupid to use the EU style Yes. I must have missed all the EU zergs beating Korean protoss. We don't have 2012...
Bly and Starbuck didn't even need lair tech to beat Dear and Genius
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On March 07 2014 04:10 mqto wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2014 04:07 Qwerty85 wrote:On March 07 2014 04:06 Squat wrote:On March 07 2014 04:03 Qwerty85 wrote:On March 07 2014 04:01 D-light wrote:
I guess you can't let the zerg get into broodlord+inf... swarmhost+viper+stuff.
Predicting an all-in by Welmu. Zergs have been saying the same against mass tempest play. So I guess late game PvZ is balanced? The whole MU is a giant pendulum of stupid, it swings both ways in uniquely infuriating and moronic ways. What you just saw is the optimal way to play ZvP lategame. Welcome to the new meta. Yeah I guess the late game differences are result of different ways of playing SH in EU and Korea. Maps play big role in that. Heavy rain and Yeonsu are only maps where that very passive sh playstyle works.
Works ok on Hab station, Polar Night and even Frost too. Snute pretty much roflstomped Hasu with SH turtle on Frost just yesterday.
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France9034 Posts
On March 07 2014 04:09 Ragnarork wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2014 04:07 Ragnarork wrote:On March 07 2014 04:05 Ragnarork wrote:On March 07 2014 04:03 Ragnarork wrote:On March 07 2014 04:00 Ragnarork wrote:0:00 - Welmu spawns at the top - Starbuck spawns at the bottom 2:00 - Pool first then hatch - Gate and one gas for Welmu - gas for Starbuck - Nexus at the natural - second gas for Welmu - Ling Speed started 5:00 - Forge dropped by Welmu - A third hatch for Starbuck - 2 gates added at the nat's wall - + 1 ground attack for Welmu - Roach warren for Starbuck - Lings poke at the natural 8:00 - Twilight council started, as well as a third nexus - Infestation pit added by Starbuck - Oh, canceld, and instead, Hydra den - Blink and + 2 attack for Welmu - Robo added, as well as gates - Infestation pit started again 10:30 - Lings poke the natural, but forcefields + wall-in and they die for nothing - Starbuck starting to spread his creep across the map - Welmu moving onto creep and gets at the third of Starbuck - Drones escape NOPE BLINK - A lot of forcefields + timewarp, many drones die - The 3rd survives
14:00
- Welmu gets back to the third and kills it
- Ling runby, doesn't achieve much
- Welmu denies the 4th of Starbuck
- 3rd remade by Starbuck, but welmu heads there
- Blink on the swarmhosts and pick a few
- Timewarp dropped, hydras + swarmhosts make welmu fall back
- Welmu takes a 4th
- Supply : 150 for Welmu - 100 for Starbuck
- Welmu catches a few hydras out alone on the map and heads towards the 4th
- 4th falls, and immediately after, the natural as well
- Welmu adding colossi
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This is how I lose whenever I use swarmhost lol
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On March 07 2014 04:10 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2014 04:04 NovaMB wrote:On March 07 2014 04:03 sharkie wrote:
why are protoss players complaining about swarmhosts?
Korean protoss are destroying any swarmhost play or lategame zerg atm. Because Korean Zergs are either too proud or too stupid to use the EU style Yes. I must have missed all the EU zergs beating Korean protoss. We don't have 2012...
Starbuck beat Dear maybe 2 weeks ago. And he didnt even use Swarmhost.
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Belgica34432 Posts
Poll: Recommend Welmu vs Starbuck Game 3?★- Do not see this game no matter what (0) 0% ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (4) 44% ★★★- Good game (5) 56% ★★★★- Highly recommended game (0) 0% ★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0) 0% 9 total votes Your vote: Recommend Welmu vs Starbuck Game 3? (Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season
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NightEnd vs Starbuck.
Neither of them is ever going to attack are they
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France9034 Posts
On March 07 2014 04:12 Ragnarork wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2014 04:09 Ragnarork wrote:On March 07 2014 04:07 Ragnarork wrote:On March 07 2014 04:05 Ragnarork wrote:On March 07 2014 04:03 Ragnarork wrote:On March 07 2014 04:00 Ragnarork wrote:0:00 - Welmu spawns at the top - Starbuck spawns at the bottom 2:00 - Pool first then hatch - Gate and one gas for Welmu - gas for Starbuck - Nexus at the natural - second gas for Welmu - Ling Speed started 5:00 - Forge dropped by Welmu - A third hatch for Starbuck - 2 gates added at the nat's wall - + 1 ground attack for Welmu - Roach warren for Starbuck - Lings poke at the natural 8:00 - Twilight council started, as well as a third nexus - Infestation pit added by Starbuck - Oh, canceld, and instead, Hydra den - Blink and + 2 attack for Welmu - Robo added, as well as gates - Infestation pit started again 10:30 - Lings poke the natural, but forcefields + wall-in and they die for nothing - Starbuck starting to spread his creep across the map - Welmu moving onto creep and gets at the third of Starbuck - Drones escape NOPE BLINK - A lot of forcefields + timewarp, many drones die - The 3rd survives 14:00 - Welmu gets back to the third and kills it - Ling runby, doesn't achieve much - Welmu denies the 4th of Starbuck - 3rd remade by Starbuck, but welmu heads there - Blink on the swarmhosts and pick a few - Timewarp dropped, hydras + swarmhosts make welmu fall back - Welmu takes a 4th - Supply : 150 for Welmu - 100 for Starbuck - Welmu catches a few hydras out alone on the map and heads towards the 4th - 4th falls, and immediately after, the natural as well - Welmu adding colossi
18:30
- Another attack at the third, which falls once more
- Blink on top of the swarmhosts
- Stalkers dance
- And Starbuck ggs,  Welmu wins game 3!
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On March 07 2014 03:47 Qwerty85 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2014 03:46 LibertyRises wrote:On March 07 2014 03:42 Shellshock wrote:On March 07 2014 03:41 LibertyRises wrote:On March 07 2014 03:35 Rain.100 wrote:On March 07 2014 03:32 ACrow wrote:On March 07 2014 03:30 Jer99 wrote:
We need a terran hope in every region to combat the evil protoss We even have multiple hopes: AM: Taeja, Poltu EU: Jjakji, MMA GSL: Maru, Bbyongjwa how dare you not list mvp How dare you not stand up for Bomber. Reported motherhukker. They were talking about terrans combating protoss though. Bomber not very reliable in that department these days Wait till MMA gets rolled by Welmu. ;-) Wait till Welmu vs. Starbuck series finish....
WHERE WERE WE.
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On March 07 2014 04:10 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2014 04:04 NovaMB wrote:On March 07 2014 04:03 sharkie wrote:
why are protoss players complaining about swarmhosts?
Korean protoss are destroying any swarmhost play or lategame zerg atm. Because Korean Zergs are either too proud or too stupid to use the EU style Yes. I must have missed all the EU zergs beating Korean protoss. We don't have 2012...
????
If Korean Zergs would copy the EU lategame style they'd beat Protoss left and right
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Look at it from the bright side, we'll get to see Starbuck do the same thing to Nightend!
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On March 07 2014 04:12 Squat wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2014 04:10 mqto wrote:On March 07 2014 04:07 Qwerty85 wrote:On March 07 2014 04:06 Squat wrote:On March 07 2014 04:03 Qwerty85 wrote:On March 07 2014 04:01 D-light wrote:
I guess you can't let the zerg get into broodlord+inf... swarmhost+viper+stuff.
Predicting an all-in by Welmu. Zergs have been saying the same against mass tempest play. So I guess late game PvZ is balanced? The whole MU is a giant pendulum of stupid, it swings both ways in uniquely infuriating and moronic ways. What you just saw is the optimal way to play ZvP lategame. Welcome to the new meta. Yeah I guess the late game differences are result of different ways of playing SH in EU and Korea. Maps play big role in that. Heavy rain and Yeonsu are only maps where that very passive sh playstyle works. Works ok on Hab station, Polar Night and even Frost too. Snute pretty much roflstomped Hasu with SH turtle on Frost just yesterday.
i remember Snute playing SH on Frost some time ago and getting stomped by Romson
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On March 07 2014 04:04 Musicus wrote:
I'm late, but: MMA MMA MMA!
no no, you are just in time for:
MMA MMA MMA!
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Better player won clearly
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