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Stats looking like a grandfather
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Finally the "little break" is over..
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On February 23 2014 21:33 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2014 21:31 Xoronius wrote:On February 23 2014 21:27 Zealously wrote:On February 23 2014 21:26 Xoronius wrote:On February 23 2014 21:23 TheDwf wrote:On February 23 2014 21:22 Xoronius wrote:On February 23 2014 21:19 TheDwf wrote:On February 23 2014 21:16 esdf wrote:On February 23 2014 21:07 TheDwf wrote:On February 23 2014 21:03 esdf wrote:
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let's leave race imbalance out of this, top players always overcome those issues.
also his wins were vs not so impressive opponents like drg, sniper or emotion. That's untrue. No, it's really not. Only thing that's untrue is your claims that Flash is still a top player. First, I claimed nothing. Second, lol @ this assertion because... Flash lost a bo1 against Maru? I think the assertion is´nt really based on the bo1 against Maru, but rather on the fact, that he droped to Code B and has´nt made the ro8 in any tournament for 10 months now. It's not like he's only the Code S level Terran who dropped to Code B. For individual leagues/tournaments, it's true he doesn't perform as well as in Proleague, and it's a real pity. No, surely not. But would you call Gumiho or SuNo top players? I would´nt. They are incredibly good, but they aren´t on the really top level of Maru,Soulkey or PartinG. People always underestimate Supernova. I try not to. But seriously, do you see SuNo as a top-5 contender for the Code-S championship? I´d say, it would´nt surprise me in the slightest, if he makes the quarterfinals, but after that he would be the underdog against most people. I guess everyone has different definition of top. Some is Top 5, for some, it is top 20, some will be Code S level.
For me "top" would mean of not being the clear underdog against anyone in the world. If you are a PartinG fan for example and he plays against Flash, Gumiho or SuNo, you are probably relaxed, although there is a chance he loses. If he plays Soulkey, Maru or Dear, you are probably really concearned, even if you still believe in him to win. That would make Dear,Maru or Soulkey top players IMHO. Ofc. that is subjective as well and has it´s exceptions (MMA was a top player in 2011, although he was´nt favored against any protoss at times), but that is the general idea I conjuct with the word top.
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United States97276 Posts
Wow Zealously banned someone from this thread
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While the girls were waving on stream the commentators were saying that they will be there for the whole season, so people were suggesting giving them fan nicknames, such as unit names. The other commentator was like "for example, Drone" and the girl starts looking pissed...
One guy in chat suggested 군단 시대 (Swarm Generation)
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On February 23 2014 21:39 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2014 21:38 esdf wrote:On February 23 2014 21:28 Zealously wrote:On February 23 2014 21:26 esdf wrote:On February 23 2014 21:22 Xoronius wrote:On February 23 2014 21:19 TheDwf wrote:On February 23 2014 21:16 esdf wrote:On February 23 2014 21:07 TheDwf wrote:On February 23 2014 21:03 esdf wrote:On February 23 2014 20:59 Rollora wrote:
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one of the top 3 although at this moment playing a race with clear disadvantages and though still having a better W/L ratio compared to others with the race that overall has the best win ratio atm? Hmmm not sure u are'nt trolling...
Btw after losing the medivac the game just snowballed, so he isn't any worse than maru, he could also easily have taken the game if that didnt happen let's leave race imbalance out of this, top players always overcome those issues.also his wins were vs not so impressive opponents like drg, sniper or emotion. That's untrue. No, it's really not. Only thing that's untrue is your claims that Flash is still a top player. First, I claimed nothing. Second, lol @ this assertion because... Flash lost a bo1 against Maru? I think the assertion is´nt really based on the bo1 against Maru, but rather on the fact, that he droped to Code B and has´nt made the ro8 in any tournament for 10 months now. that + his PL performance ain't really that impressive when you see who he racked up those 6 wins against. half of his PL wins these season were against mediocre opponents at best (sniper) and flat out bad players (emotion and drg). hell, he even lost vs sora. he's unable to win a tvp against anyone that isn't flat out bad. I was wondering if you have a clue about SC2. Thanks for confirming that you don't. I haven't said anything wrong, maybe I exaggerated by calling DRG flat out bad, but he's way past his days when he used to be a force in sc2. He's nowhere near his wol level, and imo nowadays he's just bad with a few flashes of old briliance. Did you even watch that Flash vs DRG game?
Yeah, I did. That's what I call a few flashes of old brilliance. That's also the thing fantasy had in R1 PL when he widowmined flash's bc's. Those players won't gain more skill the harder you fanboy, it doesn't work like that.
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Belgica34432 Posts
On February 23 2014 21:41 Shellshock wrote:
Wow Zealously banned someone from this thread
But it's by request so it doesn't really count
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
On February 23 2014 21:43 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2014 21:41 Shellshock wrote:
Wow Zealously banned someone from this thread But it's by request so it doesn't really count
Still mod abuse, BURN DOWN HIS FAMILY
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On February 23 2014 21:42 esdf wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2014 21:39 TheDwf wrote:On February 23 2014 21:38 esdf wrote:On February 23 2014 21:28 Zealously wrote:On February 23 2014 21:26 esdf wrote:On February 23 2014 21:22 Xoronius wrote:On February 23 2014 21:19 TheDwf wrote:On February 23 2014 21:16 esdf wrote:On February 23 2014 21:07 TheDwf wrote:On February 23 2014 21:03 esdf wrote:
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let's leave race imbalance out of this, top players always overcome those issues.
also his wins were vs not so impressive opponents like drg, sniper or emotion. That's untrue. No, it's really not. Only thing that's untrue is your claims that Flash is still a top player. First, I claimed nothing. Second, lol @ this assertion because... Flash lost a bo1 against Maru? I think the assertion is´nt really based on the bo1 against Maru, but rather on the fact, that he droped to Code B and has´nt made the ro8 in any tournament for 10 months now. that + his PL performance ain't really that impressive when you see who he racked up those 6 wins against. half of his PL wins these season were against mediocre opponents at best (sniper) and flat out bad players (emotion and drg). hell, he even lost vs sora. he's unable to win a tvp against anyone that isn't flat out bad. I was wondering if you have a clue about SC2. Thanks for confirming that you don't. I haven't said anything wrong, maybe I exaggerated by calling DRG flat out bad, but he's way past his days when he used to be a force in sc2. He's nowhere near his wol level, and imo nowadays he's just bad with a few flashes of old briliance. Did you even watch that Flash vs DRG game? Yeah, I did. That's what I call a few flashes of old brilliance. That's also the thing fantasy had in R1 PL when he widowmined flash's bc's. Those players won't gain more skill the harder you fanboy, it doesn't work like that.
Do you think you look cleverer with your passive agressive sentences?
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Bisutopia19299 Posts
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On February 23 2014 21:44 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2014 21:43 Lorning wrote:On February 23 2014 21:41 Shellshock wrote:
Wow Zealously banned someone from this thread But it's by request so it doesn't really count Still mod abuse, BURN DOWN HIS FAMILY
Well, that escalated quickly. I would just try to get the family dog
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United States97276 Posts
Barbie's interviewing career is in jeopardy now
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On February 23 2014 21:42 esdf wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2014 21:39 TheDwf wrote:On February 23 2014 21:38 esdf wrote:On February 23 2014 21:28 Zealously wrote:On February 23 2014 21:26 esdf wrote:On February 23 2014 21:22 Xoronius wrote:On February 23 2014 21:19 TheDwf wrote:On February 23 2014 21:16 esdf wrote:On February 23 2014 21:07 TheDwf wrote:On February 23 2014 21:03 esdf wrote:
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let's leave race imbalance out of this, top players always overcome those issues.
also his wins were vs not so impressive opponents like drg, sniper or emotion. That's untrue. No, it's really not. Only thing that's untrue is your claims that Flash is still a top player. First, I claimed nothing. Second, lol @ this assertion because... Flash lost a bo1 against Maru? I think the assertion is´nt really based on the bo1 against Maru, but rather on the fact, that he droped to Code B and has´nt made the ro8 in any tournament for 10 months now. that + his PL performance ain't really that impressive when you see who he racked up those 6 wins against. half of his PL wins these season were against mediocre opponents at best (sniper) and flat out bad players (emotion and drg). hell, he even lost vs sora. he's unable to win a tvp against anyone that isn't flat out bad. I was wondering if you have a clue about SC2. Thanks for confirming that you don't. I haven't said anything wrong, maybe I exaggerated by calling DRG flat out bad, but he's way past his days when he used to be a force in sc2. He's nowhere near his wol level, and imo nowadays he's just bad with a few flashes of old briliance. Did you even watch that Flash vs DRG game? Yeah, I did. That's what I call a few flashes of old brilliance. That's also the thing fantasy had in R1 PL when he widowmined flash's bc's. Those players won't gain more skill the harder you fanboy, it doesn't work like that.
So if DRG had flashes of old brilliance, that would mean, he was brialliant once, which would mean, he was talented, which is equivalent with saying he is talented (since talent is time-invariant), which would mean he is not flat out bad, right?
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Wtf ? they just started the game ?
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On February 23 2014 21:46 Xoronius wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2014 21:42 esdf wrote:On February 23 2014 21:39 TheDwf wrote:On February 23 2014 21:38 esdf wrote:On February 23 2014 21:28 Zealously wrote:On February 23 2014 21:26 esdf wrote:On February 23 2014 21:22 Xoronius wrote:On February 23 2014 21:19 TheDwf wrote:On February 23 2014 21:16 esdf wrote:On February 23 2014 21:07 TheDwf wrote:
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That's untrue. No, it's really not. Only thing that's untrue is your claims that Flash is still a top player. First, I claimed nothing. Second, lol @ this assertion because... Flash lost a bo1 against Maru? I think the assertion is´nt really based on the bo1 against Maru, but rather on the fact, that he droped to Code B and has´nt made the ro8 in any tournament for 10 months now. that + his PL performance ain't really that impressive when you see who he racked up those 6 wins against. half of his PL wins these season were against mediocre opponents at best (sniper) and flat out bad players (emotion and drg). hell, he even lost vs sora. he's unable to win a tvp against anyone that isn't flat out bad. I was wondering if you have a clue about SC2. Thanks for confirming that you don't. I haven't said anything wrong, maybe I exaggerated by calling DRG flat out bad, but he's way past his days when he used to be a force in sc2. He's nowhere near his wol level, and imo nowadays he's just bad with a few flashes of old briliance. Did you even watch that Flash vs DRG game? Yeah, I did. That's what I call a few flashes of old brilliance. That's also the thing fantasy had in R1 PL when he widowmined flash's bc's. Those players won't gain more skill the harder you fanboy, it doesn't work like that. So if DRG had flashes of old brilliance, that would mean, he was brialliant once, which would mean, he was talented, which is equivalent with saying he is talented (since talent is time-invariant), which would mean he is not flat out bad, right?
I never claimed he was always bad, he was a great player during wol, but in hots he's just one of the players.
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
On February 23 2014 21:45 Shellshock wrote:Barbie's interviewing career is in jeopardy now
Poor salvation.
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On February 23 2014 21:46 Xoronius wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2014 21:42 esdf wrote:On February 23 2014 21:39 TheDwf wrote:On February 23 2014 21:38 esdf wrote:On February 23 2014 21:28 Zealously wrote:On February 23 2014 21:26 esdf wrote:On February 23 2014 21:22 Xoronius wrote:On February 23 2014 21:19 TheDwf wrote:On February 23 2014 21:16 esdf wrote:On February 23 2014 21:07 TheDwf wrote:
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That's untrue. No, it's really not. Only thing that's untrue is your claims that Flash is still a top player. First, I claimed nothing. Second, lol @ this assertion because... Flash lost a bo1 against Maru? I think the assertion is´nt really based on the bo1 against Maru, but rather on the fact, that he droped to Code B and has´nt made the ro8 in any tournament for 10 months now. that + his PL performance ain't really that impressive when you see who he racked up those 6 wins against. half of his PL wins these season were against mediocre opponents at best (sniper) and flat out bad players (emotion and drg). hell, he even lost vs sora. he's unable to win a tvp against anyone that isn't flat out bad. I was wondering if you have a clue about SC2. Thanks for confirming that you don't. I haven't said anything wrong, maybe I exaggerated by calling DRG flat out bad, but he's way past his days when he used to be a force in sc2. He's nowhere near his wol level, and imo nowadays he's just bad with a few flashes of old briliance. Did you even watch that Flash vs DRG game? Yeah, I did. That's what I call a few flashes of old brilliance. That's also the thing fantasy had in R1 PL when he widowmined flash's bc's. Those players won't gain more skill the harder you fanboy, it doesn't work like that. So if DRG had flashes of old brilliance, that would mean, he was brialliant once, which would mean, he was talented, which is equivalent with saying he is talented (since talent is time-invariant), which would mean he is not flat out bad, right?
The funny part is how he says Flash's win against DRG is essentially irrelevant because he's supposedly "bad" yet acknowledges DRG played very well this game. How are we supposed to extract any sense from this?
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I'm losing passion by the minute. This break hurt me a lot.
Cmon, Stats. fight!~
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Holy shit Rogue is playing a perfect game.
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