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On February 15 2014 06:43 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2014 06:41 Bagi wrote: Remember Desrows words, blink nerf is equivalent to hydras being 25 gas and should never be implemented. Jjakji lost mainly to DTs, the blink nerf wouldn't have changed the outcome of this a lot Weaker blink would let him squeeze an ebay in his build...
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
CC first without dying. This is the best possible opening for Jjakji against the inevitable blink.
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Plz... no 8 protoss in quarterfinals. Jjakji win this!
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Guys, a terran shouldn't have to scout every single thing the toss is doing at all times to hold off 2 base presure. There needs to be some serious toss nerfs soon.
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On February 15 2014 06:45 stuchiu wrote: CC first without dying. This is the best possible opening for Jjakji against the inevitable blink. 4 bunkers and everything is fine :D.
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On February 15 2014 06:42 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2014 06:40 Melliflue wrote:On February 15 2014 06:38 scypio wrote: Once again protoss winning after a scouted all-in. Jjakji needs to learn to roll the dice the right way. Jjakji didn't scout the dark shrine at all. It wasn't an all-in (Dear started his expansion as he sent in the first 2 DTs) and it wasn't scouted. You do realize it's impossible to scout a Dark shrine on Frost? What prevents him from randomly building it somewhere on the map? I wasn't trying to comment on how hard it is to scout on Frost, but scypio claimed it was a scouted all-in. That's what I was disagreeing with. There's a difference between having difficulty scouting and reacting after scouting.
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On February 15 2014 06:42 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2014 06:40 Melliflue wrote:On February 15 2014 06:38 scypio wrote: Once again protoss winning after a scouted all-in. Jjakji needs to learn to roll the dice the right way. Jjakji didn't scout the dark shrine at all. It wasn't an all-in (Dear started his expansion as he sent in the first 2 DTs) and it wasn't scouted. You do realize it's impossible to scout a Dark shrine on Frost? What prevents him from randomly building it somewhere on the map?
It's not impossible..
If he was to hide it outside his base that means he'd be missing a pylon in his main base - which would mean he's hiding a building - either dt or stargate. Both of which are countered by missile turrets.
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Jjakji is just going full yolo mode with cc 1st on Yeonsu. He will either get ahead or die trying.
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Belgica34432 Posts
If jjakji gets a sensor tower, he should be fine
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Man, I have missed everything since game 1 of jjakji vs Dear. How did the final game end up being on Yeonsu?? Come on jjakji! Pls!
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On February 15 2014 06:46 gingerfluffmuff wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2014 06:45 stuchiu wrote: CC first without dying. This is the best possible opening for Jjakji against the inevitable blink. 4 bunkers and everything is fine :D. 4 upgraded bunkers ...maybe
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Jjakji should get some 15 turrets just in case
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On February 15 2014 06:46 Snijjer wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2014 06:42 TheDwf wrote:On February 15 2014 06:40 Melliflue wrote:On February 15 2014 06:38 scypio wrote: Once again protoss winning after a scouted all-in. Jjakji needs to learn to roll the dice the right way. Jjakji didn't scout the dark shrine at all. It wasn't an all-in (Dear started his expansion as he sent in the first 2 DTs) and it wasn't scouted. You do realize it's impossible to scout a Dark shrine on Frost? What prevents him from randomly building it somewhere on the map? It's not impossible.. If he was to hide it outside his base that means he'd be missing a pylon in his main base - which would mean he's hiding a building - either dt or stargate. Both of which are countered by missile turrets. Or a Twilight Council. Or a robo. And you don't build the Turret at the same location for Oracles and DTs.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
NO BLINK, TRAITOR TO ANYPRO
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On February 15 2014 06:46 Melliflue wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2014 06:42 TheDwf wrote:On February 15 2014 06:40 Melliflue wrote:On February 15 2014 06:38 scypio wrote: Once again protoss winning after a scouted all-in. Jjakji needs to learn to roll the dice the right way. Jjakji didn't scout the dark shrine at all. It wasn't an all-in (Dear started his expansion as he sent in the first 2 DTs) and it wasn't scouted. You do realize it's impossible to scout a Dark shrine on Frost? What prevents him from randomly building it somewhere on the map? I wasn't trying to comment on how hard it is to scout on Frost, but scypio claimed it was a scouted all-in. That's what I was disagreeing with. There's a difference between having difficulty scouting and reacting after scouting.
Jjakji built his expo, had scv in Dear's nat, saw no expansion, built bunkers, evacuated to high ground, saved a scan. I have no idea what else he could do, find the DT shrine in Dear's nat?
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Is he doing a QXC defensive WM build?
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Austria24417 Posts
On February 15 2014 06:45 Bagi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2014 06:43 DarkLordOlli wrote:On February 15 2014 06:41 Bagi wrote: Remember Desrows words, blink nerf is equivalent to hydras being 25 gas and should never be implemented. Jjakji lost mainly to DTs, the blink nerf wouldn't have changed the outcome of this a lot Weaker blink would let him squeeze an ebay in his build...
All he really needed was the 2 scans he had saved up before MULEing. Also weaker blink wouldn't mean terran could get an ebay and turrets and get away with it vs a dedicated blink all in.
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Jjakji with the perfect timing on the observer snipe.
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On February 15 2014 06:47 stuchiu wrote: NO BLINK, TRAITOR TO ANYPRO its just delayed, blink will happen
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Austria24417 Posts
On February 15 2014 06:44 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2014 06:43 DarkLordOlli wrote:On February 15 2014 06:41 Bagi wrote: Remember Desrows words, blink nerf is equivalent to hydras being 25 gas and should never be implemented. Jjakji lost mainly to DTs, the blink nerf wouldn't have changed the outcome of this a lot So you're saying..... Increase bunker build time by 5 seconds?
No, I mean DT movement speed increased again
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