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Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
February 14 2014 21:45 GMT
#2101
On February 15 2014 06:43 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 06:41 Bagi wrote:
Remember Desrows words, blink nerf is equivalent to hydras being 25 gas and should never be implemented.


Jjakji lost mainly to DTs, the blink nerf wouldn't have changed the outcome of this a lot

Weaker blink would let him squeeze an ebay in his build...
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
February 14 2014 21:45 GMT
#2102
CC first without dying. This is the best possible opening for Jjakji against the inevitable blink.
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Negius
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Netherlands290 Posts
February 14 2014 21:45 GMT
#2103
Plz... no 8 protoss in quarterfinals. Jjakji win this!
[Terran] mvp | maru | innovation | mma [Protoss] mc | squirtle [Zerg] nestea | soo
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
February 14 2014 21:45 GMT
#2104
Guys, a terran shouldn't have to scout every single thing the toss is doing at all times to hold off 2 base presure. There needs to be some serious toss nerfs soon.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
February 14 2014 21:46 GMT
#2105
On February 15 2014 06:45 stuchiu wrote:
CC first without dying. This is the best possible opening for Jjakji against the inevitable blink.

4 bunkers and everything is fine :D.
・゚✧:・゚+..。✧・゚:・..。 ✧・゚ :・゚ ゜・:・ ✧・゚:・゚:.。 ✧・゚ SPARKULING *・゜・:・゚✧:・゚✧。゚+..。 ✧・゚: ✧・゚:・゜・:・゚✧::・・:・゚・゚
Melliflue
Profile Joined October 2012
United Kingdom1389 Posts
February 14 2014 21:46 GMT
#2106
On February 15 2014 06:42 TheDwf wrote:
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On February 15 2014 06:40 Melliflue wrote:
On February 15 2014 06:38 scypio wrote:
Once again protoss winning after a scouted all-in. Jjakji needs to learn to roll the dice the right way.

Jjakji didn't scout the dark shrine at all. It wasn't an all-in (Dear started his expansion as he sent in the first 2 DTs) and it wasn't scouted.

You do realize it's impossible to scout a Dark shrine on Frost? What prevents him from randomly building it somewhere on the map?

I wasn't trying to comment on how hard it is to scout on Frost, but scypio claimed it was a scouted all-in. That's what I was disagreeing with. There's a difference between having difficulty scouting and reacting after scouting.
Snijjer
Profile Joined September 2011
United States989 Posts
February 14 2014 21:46 GMT
#2107
On February 15 2014 06:42 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 06:40 Melliflue wrote:
On February 15 2014 06:38 scypio wrote:
Once again protoss winning after a scouted all-in. Jjakji needs to learn to roll the dice the right way.

Jjakji didn't scout the dark shrine at all. It wasn't an all-in (Dear started his expansion as he sent in the first 2 DTs) and it wasn't scouted.

You do realize it's impossible to scout a Dark shrine on Frost? What prevents him from randomly building it somewhere on the map?


It's not impossible..

If he was to hide it outside his base that means he'd be missing a pylon in his main base - which would mean he's hiding a building - either dt or stargate. Both of which are countered by missile turrets.
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
February 14 2014 21:46 GMT
#2108
Jjakji is just going full yolo mode with cc 1st on Yeonsu. He will either get ahead or die trying.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
February 14 2014 21:46 GMT
#2109
If jjakji gets a sensor tower, he should be fine
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jakethesnake
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada4948 Posts
February 14 2014 21:46 GMT
#2110
Man, I have missed everything since game 1 of jjakji vs Dear. How did the final game end up being on Yeonsu?? Come on jjakji! Pls!
Community Newsjjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji nshoseo.jpg
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10084 Posts
February 14 2014 21:46 GMT
#2111
On February 15 2014 06:46 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 06:45 stuchiu wrote:
CC first without dying. This is the best possible opening for Jjakji against the inevitable blink.

4 bunkers and everything is fine :D.

4 upgraded bunkers ...maybe
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Ace Frehley
Profile Joined December 2012
2030 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-14 21:47:18
February 14 2014 21:46 GMT
#2112
Jjakji should get some 15 turrets just in case
...
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
February 14 2014 21:47 GMT
#2113
On February 15 2014 06:46 Snijjer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 06:42 TheDwf wrote:
On February 15 2014 06:40 Melliflue wrote:
On February 15 2014 06:38 scypio wrote:
Once again protoss winning after a scouted all-in. Jjakji needs to learn to roll the dice the right way.

Jjakji didn't scout the dark shrine at all. It wasn't an all-in (Dear started his expansion as he sent in the first 2 DTs) and it wasn't scouted.

You do realize it's impossible to scout a Dark shrine on Frost? What prevents him from randomly building it somewhere on the map?


It's not impossible..

If he was to hide it outside his base that means he'd be missing a pylon in his main base - which would mean he's hiding a building - either dt or stargate. Both of which are countered by missile turrets.

Or a Twilight Council. Or a robo. And you don't build the Turret at the same location for Oracles and DTs.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
February 14 2014 21:47 GMT
#2114
NO BLINK, TRAITOR TO ANYPRO
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scypio
Profile Joined December 2011
Poland2127 Posts
February 14 2014 21:47 GMT
#2115
On February 15 2014 06:46 Melliflue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 06:42 TheDwf wrote:
On February 15 2014 06:40 Melliflue wrote:
On February 15 2014 06:38 scypio wrote:
Once again protoss winning after a scouted all-in. Jjakji needs to learn to roll the dice the right way.

Jjakji didn't scout the dark shrine at all. It wasn't an all-in (Dear started his expansion as he sent in the first 2 DTs) and it wasn't scouted.

You do realize it's impossible to scout a Dark shrine on Frost? What prevents him from randomly building it somewhere on the map?

I wasn't trying to comment on how hard it is to scout on Frost, but scypio claimed it was a scouted all-in. That's what I was disagreeing with. There's a difference between having difficulty scouting and reacting after scouting.


Jjakji built his expo, had scv in Dear's nat, saw no expansion, built bunkers, evacuated to high ground, saved a scan. I have no idea what else he could do, find the DT shrine in Dear's nat?
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Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
February 14 2014 21:47 GMT
#2116
Is he doing a QXC defensive WM build?
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24420 Posts
February 14 2014 21:47 GMT
#2117
On February 15 2014 06:45 Bagi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 06:43 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 15 2014 06:41 Bagi wrote:
Remember Desrows words, blink nerf is equivalent to hydras being 25 gas and should never be implemented.


Jjakji lost mainly to DTs, the blink nerf wouldn't have changed the outcome of this a lot

Weaker blink would let him squeeze an ebay in his build...


All he really needed was the 2 scans he had saved up before MULEing. Also weaker blink wouldn't mean terran could get an ebay and turrets and get away with it vs a dedicated blink all in.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
jakethesnake
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada4948 Posts
February 14 2014 21:48 GMT
#2118
Jjakji with the perfect timing on the observer snipe.
Community Newsjjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji nshoseo.jpg
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10084 Posts
February 14 2014 21:48 GMT
#2119
On February 15 2014 06:47 stuchiu wrote:
NO BLINK, TRAITOR TO ANYPRO

its just delayed, blink will happen
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24420 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-14 21:49:08
February 14 2014 21:48 GMT
#2120
On February 15 2014 06:44 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 06:43 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 15 2014 06:41 Bagi wrote:
Remember Desrows words, blink nerf is equivalent to hydras being 25 gas and should never be implemented.


Jjakji lost mainly to DTs, the blink nerf wouldn't have changed the outcome of this a lot


So you're saying.....

Increase bunker build time by 5 seconds?


No, I mean DT movement speed increased again
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
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