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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51471 Posts
Wednesday, Jan 15 9:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2014_Global_StarCraft_II_League_Season_1/Code_A TL Preview: TL Preview
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/r9ZH0.png) GSL
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sOs vs Shine
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Classic vs GuMiho
+ Show Spoiler [Spoiler-Free] ++ Show Spoiler [Overall Results] +
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+ Show Spoiler ++ Show Spoiler [sOs vs Shine] +Poll: Recommend sOs vs Shine - Game 1Excellent Game (10) 71% Good Game (2) 14% Meh Game (2) 14% Bad Game (0) 0% 14 total votes Your vote: Recommend sOs vs Shine - Game 1 (Vote): Excellent Game (Vote): Good Game (Vote): Meh Game (Vote): Bad Game
Poll: Recommend sOs vs Shine - Game 2Good Game (5) 45% Meh Game (3) 27% Excellent Game (2) 18% Bad Game (1) 9% 11 total votes Your vote: Recommend sOs vs Shine - Game 2 (Vote): Excellent Game (Vote): Good Game (Vote): Meh Game (Vote): Bad Game
Poll: Recommend sOs vs Shine - Game 3Good Game (4) 57% Excellent Game (2) 29% Meh Game (1) 14% Bad Game (0) 0% 7 total votes Your vote: Recommend sOs vs Shine - Game 3 (Vote): Excellent Game (Vote): Good Game (Vote): Meh Game (Vote): Bad Game
+ Show Spoiler [Classic vs GuMiho] +Poll: Recommend Classic vs Gumiho - Game 1Good Game (5) 56% Bad Game (2) 22% Excellent Game (1) 11% Meh Game (1) 11% 9 total votes Your vote: Recommend Classic vs Gumiho - Game 1 (Vote): Excellent Game (Vote): Good Game (Vote): Meh Game (Vote): Bad Game
Poll: Recommend Classic vs Gumiho - game 2Excellent Game (5) 50% Good Game (2) 20% Meh Game (2) 20% Bad Game (1) 10% 10 total votes Your vote: Recommend Classic vs Gumiho - game 2 (Vote): Excellent Game (Vote): Good Game (Vote): Meh Game (Vote): Bad Game
Poll: Recommend Classic vs Gumiho - Game 3Bad Game (4) 50% Meh Game (2) 25% Good Game (2) 25% Excellent Game (0) 0% 8 total votes Your vote: Recommend Classic vs Gumiho - Game 3 (Vote): Excellent Game (Vote): Good Game (Vote): Meh Game (Vote): Bad Game
+ Show Spoiler [Winner's Match] +Poll: Recommend Winners Match - Game 1Excellent Game (5) 42% Meh Game (5) 42% Good Game (2) 17% Bad Game (0) 0% 12 total votes Your vote: Recommend Winners Match - Game 1 (Vote): Excellent Game (Vote): Good Game (Vote): Meh Game (Vote): Bad Game
Poll: Recommend Winners Match - Game 2Excellent Game (17) 77% Good Game (4) 18% Meh Game (1) 5% Bad Game (0) 0% 22 total votes Your vote: Recommend Winners Match - Game 2 (Vote): Excellent Game (Vote): Good Game (Vote): Meh Game (Vote): Bad Game
Poll: Recommend Winners Match - Game 3Excellent Game (7) 64% Good Game (4) 36% Meh Game (0) 0% Bad Game (0) 0% 11 total votes Your vote: Recommend Winners Match - Game 3 (Vote): Excellent Game (Vote): Good Game (Vote): Meh Game (Vote): Bad Game
+ Show Spoiler [Loser's Match] +Poll: Recommend Loser Match - Game 1Good Game (10) 45% Excellent Game (6) 27% Meh Game (4) 18% Bad Game (2) 9% 22 total votes Your vote: Recommend Loser Match - Game 1 (Vote): Excellent Game (Vote): Good Game (Vote): Meh Game (Vote): Bad Game
Poll: Recommend Loser Match - Game 2Good Game (5) 63% Meh Game (2) 25% Bad Game (1) 13% Excellent Game (0) 0% 8 total votes Your vote: Recommend Loser Match - Game 2 (Vote): Excellent Game (Vote): Good Game (Vote): Meh Game (Vote): Bad Game
Poll: Recommend Loser Match - Game 3Good Game (4) 57% Meh Game (2) 29% Bad Game (1) 14% Excellent Game (0) 0% 7 total votes Your vote: Recommend Loser Match - Game 3 (Vote): Excellent Game (Vote): Good Game (Vote): Meh Game (Vote): Bad Game
+ Show Spoiler [Final Match] +Poll: Recommend Final Match - Game 1Good Game (5) 45% Excellent Game (2) 18% Meh Game (2) 18% Bad Game (2) 18% 11 total votes Your vote: Recommend Final Match - Game 1 (Vote): Excellent Game (Vote): Good Game (Vote): Meh Game (Vote): Bad Game
Poll: Recommend Final Match - Game 2Good Game (4) 50% Meh Game (2) 25% Bad Game (2) 25% Excellent Game (0) 0% 8 total votes Your vote: Recommend Final Match - Game 2 (Vote): Excellent Game (Vote): Good Game (Vote): Meh Game (Vote): Bad Game
Poll: Recommend Final Match - Game 3Excellent Game (6) 38% Meh Game (4) 25% Good Game (3) 19% Bad Game (3) 19% 16 total votes Your vote: Recommend Final Match - Game 3 (Vote): Excellent Game (Vote): Good Game (Vote): Meh Game (Vote): Bad Game
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51471 Posts
Poll: sOs vs ShinesOs Wins (29) 73% Shine Wins (11) 28% 40 total votes Your vote: sOs vs Shine (Vote): sOs Wins (Vote): Shine Wins
Poll: Classic vs GumihoClassic Wins (26) 62% Gumiho Wins (16) 38% 42 total votes Your vote: Classic vs Gumiho (Vote): Classic Wins (Vote): Gumiho Wins
Poll: Advances From GroupsOs (16) 38% Classic (16) 38% Gumiho (8) 19% Shine (2) 5% 42 total votes Your vote: Advances From Group (Vote): sOs (Vote): Shine (Vote): Classic (Vote): Gumiho
Poll: Falls to Code BShine (18) 47% Gumiho (9) 24% sOs (7) 18% Classic (4) 11% 38 total votes Your vote: Falls to Code B (Vote): sOs (Vote): Shine (Vote): Classic (Vote): Gumiho
Someone want to make a banner? ;_; GOM haven't made one yet
Also note there is Group B being streamed now from GOM on the same channels as above, these will be live from 04:30 GMT (+00:00) i will be in bed at this time so no chance for me to cover these games. Maybe someone else could do these 
ARCEUS RULES :D Please thank him for the awesome banners if you see him around
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sOs might be in big amounts of trouble. I hope his individual skills are better than what he showed in Proleague, otherwise he wont be in Code S. I think Shine might get through this if Proleague sOs shows up 2 advance to Code S, 2 fall to Code B I believe?
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
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DID SOMEONE SAY "BANNER"?
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
my banner is better you noob
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On January 15 2014 01:06 lichter wrote: my banner is better you noob Im outcreatived
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On January 15 2014 01:06 lichter wrote: my banner is better you noob
Atleast I tried
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On January 15 2014 01:06 lichter wrote: my banner is better you noob
Got to agree there.
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51471 Posts
LOL I choose Arceus cuz he rules.
But yeah 2 drop and 2 advance but i just wanted poll to see if we could get the right pics without picking a pair xD
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
let's go classic and gumiho! sos would be okay too
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Gumiho has always been one of my favorite players. I hope he wins his games.
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your Country52797 Posts
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dang forgot all about Gumiho; hope he has a better year!
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Do we know the casters? Either way, long live Gom. Will be watching these.
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I love sOs, but I have a bad feeling about this. Classic and Gumiho gogogo! Great group to kick things off.
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Gumiho please.
Classic and sOs more likely though. I still believe in sOs.
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United States97276 Posts
I picked Classic and sOs but I'd like to see GuMiho make it
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
Damn banner. Why the fuck everytime when i look at Classic, i think that it's a HerO?
sOs and Classic to advance, sOs <3333
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37003 Posts
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On January 15 2014 10:28 Seeker wrote: Wrong Shine TLPD'ed
lol fuck people with exactly identical handles
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Gumiho please. Back to #1 entertainer.
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Do I need to buy ticket to see this?
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On January 15 2014 12:40 Mozdk wrote: Do I need to buy ticket to see this?
I don't believe so.
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GSL IS BACK! =D
And airing at a reasonable time, awesome! =D
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Stream link in OP is pointing to the incorrect location!
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
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Effort is dead.
Edit: Closer than I thought
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
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Wrong Shine in OP. Should be Sniper's zerg buddy not RorO's zerg buddy.
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On January 15 2014 13:15 opterown wrote: wrong thread nubs
Lol, thanks.
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Does anyone know if you can upgrade your subscription package from the Yearly to the Premium without having to pay the full 90$ since I already paid the 55$ ?? If someone could help me out I would appreciate it.
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
sOs will have to pull some nice builds if he wants to overshadow Ruin's glorious last game
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On January 15 2014 16:20 lichter wrote: sOs will have to pull some nice builds if he wants to overshadow Ruin's glorious last game He's going to lose on purpose and than choose Daedalus Point so he can recreate the same moment in GSL.
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Does anyone know if the VODs are uploaded to the youtube account?
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So hard to predict which incarnation of sOs and Gumiho we´ll see. Could be anything from breathtaking and meta-game changing to pie-to-face stupid looking.
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You have a picture of the wrong Shine in the OP. It's MVPShine, not ICheeseEveryGameShine.
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nooo the HEAVEN AND HELL banner was great!
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On January 15 2014 17:01 Elite_ wrote: You have a picture of the wrong Shine in the OP. It's MVPShine, not ICheeseEveryGameShine.
that doesn't clear it up much D:
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France9034 Posts
Fuck. Meeting this morning, won't be able to peek at Group A matches....
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Don't spoil the Group B games for me but I need some help quick! I bought a ticket for the year on Twitch but I can't find where the VOD's are, any ideas?!
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On January 15 2014 17:24 Dinotramp wrote: Don't spoil the Group B games for me but I need some help quick! I bought a ticket for the year on Twitch but I can't find where the VOD's are, any ideas?!
The first group just ended like an hour ago, I'd give it some more time before the VOD's appear online.
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On January 15 2014 17:28 Happygreek wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 17:24 Dinotramp wrote: Don't spoil the Group B games for me but I need some help quick! I bought a ticket for the year on Twitch but I can't find where the VOD's are, any ideas?! The first group just ended like an hour ago, I'd give it some more time before the VOD's appear online.
But it's Twitch VOD's which are instantaneous though?
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Head : Gumiho and sOs Heart : Classic and sOs
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On January 15 2014 17:33 samurai80 wrote: Head : Gumiho and sOs Heart : Classic and sOs
No heart for the Gumibear means you have no heart, sorry.
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
I want sOs and Classic too >.>
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Charlie Sheens House51471 Posts
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Norway25712 Posts
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On January 15 2014 17:59 KristofferAG wrote: Is Gumibro still good_
not really
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What kind of wall did he do it?
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Norway25712 Posts
On January 15 2014 18:01 lichter wrote:not really  Damn
Does he at least use a towel still_
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Ow hi there medium quality. It's been a while
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On January 15 2014 18:02 KristofferAG wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 18:01 lichter wrote:On January 15 2014 17:59 KristofferAG wrote: Is Gumibro still good_ not really  Damn Does he at least use a towel still_
What_is_up_with_this_man______
yes he does
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51471 Posts
Yeah even high is bad and i pay for that haha (paid)
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Did he scream NALRAAAAAAA as he did that?
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United States97276 Posts
On January 15 2014 18:01 Heartland wrote: What kind of wall did he do it? I assume you are asking about Ruin (didn't have the stream on yet so I might be wrong) He did this http://imgur.com/OGIGHvs + there was a forge and gateway there before
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On January 15 2014 17:55 Pandemona wrote:Why no one Kpopping 
4minute - What's Your Name + Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-IJWqIHioA
Secret - Talk That + Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-V1-J4LNh9o
A Pink - No No No + Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3XJQtJWKJM
Lee Hi - It's Over + Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJKOFMUGq2E
Girl's Generation - I Got A Boy + Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wq7ftOZBy0E
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On January 15 2014 18:01 lichter wrote:not really 
Quiet you! Gumiho is a warrior king and he will 4-0 this group!
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51471 Posts
On January 15 2014 18:04 Ansalem wrote:4minute - What's Your Name + Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-IJWqIHioA Secret - Talk That + Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-V1-J4LNh9o A Pink - No No No + Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3XJQtJWKJM Lee Hi - It's Over + Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJKOFMUGq2E Girl's Generation - I Got A Boy + Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wq7ftOZBy0E
Woooow
/bow
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Question from somebody who hasn't payed attention to Starcraft2 for a while: What is the point of code A? If all it is is up and downs in 4 man groups with 2 going to S and 2 going to B, what is the point of A? Why not just call it up and downs and call B A?
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Norway25712 Posts
On January 15 2014 18:03 lichter wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 18:02 KristofferAG wrote:On January 15 2014 18:01 lichter wrote:On January 15 2014 17:59 KristofferAG wrote: Is Gumibro still good_ not really  Damn Does he at least use a towel still_ What_is_up_with_this_man______ yes he does My keyboard is set to US and I\m too lazy to press those two buttons to change it back.
I just woke up, I have an excuse!
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I have a weird feeling Shine will win the first series but sOs will win their 2nd encounter and advance with Gumibro
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51471 Posts
Where is le great shellbot? Is he showing signs of old age (old version Robot?). Do we need to upgrade him for 2014?
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On January 15 2014 18:09 Pandemona wrote: Where is le great shellbot? Is he showing signs of old age (old version Robot?). Do we need to upgrade him for 2014?
shellbot is past his prime
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United States97276 Posts
On January 15 2014 18:09 Pandemona wrote: Where is le great shellbot? Is he showing signs of old age (old version Robot?). Do we need to upgrade him for 2014? I haven't decided if I am staying up for this yet
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On January 15 2014 18:10 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 18:09 Pandemona wrote: Where is le great shellbot? Is he showing signs of old age (old version Robot?). Do we need to upgrade him for 2014? I haven't decided if I am staying up for this yet
if you're cheering for gumigod then you should
also holy shit you're 20k posts ahead of me now
maybe I'm past my prime
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On January 15 2014 18:10 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 18:09 Pandemona wrote: Where is le great shellbot? Is he showing signs of old age (old version Robot?). Do we need to upgrade him for 2014? shellbot is past his prime
or past his Prime?
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51471 Posts
Lol xD Did you LR the 1pm KST games Shellbot? Or do i still need upgrade your processor xD
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United States97276 Posts
On January 15 2014 18:11 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 18:10 Shellshock wrote:On January 15 2014 18:09 Pandemona wrote: Where is le great shellbot? Is he showing signs of old age (old version Robot?). Do we need to upgrade him for 2014? I haven't decided if I am staying up for this yet if you're cheering for gumigod then you should I liquibetted sOs and Classic because Gumiho's prime was equal to mine
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Norway25712 Posts
On January 15 2014 18:10 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 18:09 Pandemona wrote: Where is le great shellbot? Is he showing signs of old age (old version Robot?). Do we need to upgrade him for 2014? I haven't decided if I am staying up for this yet Why do you have no sig_
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On January 15 2014 18:11 KristofferAG wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 18:10 Shellshock wrote:On January 15 2014 18:09 Pandemona wrote: Where is le great shellbot? Is he showing signs of old age (old version Robot?). Do we need to upgrade him for 2014? I haven't decided if I am staying up for this yet Why do you have no sig_
no sig is the new cool kid thing
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Feels sort of weird that Protoss/sOs in particular are going back to opening Phoenix and going into Colossus.
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every korean zerg sucks so much at rallying overlords vs phoenix
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51471 Posts
On January 15 2014 18:11 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 18:11 Dodgin wrote:On January 15 2014 18:10 Shellshock wrote:On January 15 2014 18:09 Pandemona wrote: Where is le great shellbot? Is he showing signs of old age (old version Robot?). Do we need to upgrade him for 2014? I haven't decided if I am staying up for this yet if you're cheering for gumigod then you should I liquibetted sOs and Classic because Gumiho's prime was equal to mine
Shellbot made a funny? ;o DOES NOT COMPUTE!!!
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51471 Posts
Mass zealot everywhere....where have i seen that before ^_^
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On January 15 2014 18:16 Pandemona wrote: Mass zealot everywhere....where have i seen that before ^_^
Yeah this ling style doesn't really work vs warp prisms
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Ah I hate sitting in university and missing gumiho T.T
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haha omg zealots zealots everywhere
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the warp prism is still alive
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So I open up the stream and see Shine on 5 bases. What?
EDIT Oh wait, it's the MVP one, nevermind.
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Good play by sOs so far but damn, Shine was so greedy
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Norway25712 Posts
On January 15 2014 18:12 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 18:11 KristofferAG wrote:On January 15 2014 18:10 Shellshock wrote:On January 15 2014 18:09 Pandemona wrote: Where is le great shellbot? Is he showing signs of old age (old version Robot?). Do we need to upgrade him for 2014? I haven't decided if I am staying up for this yet Why do you have no sig_ no sig is the new cool kid thing I missed out on being cool again_
God dammit.
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wtf only two voidrays so far.
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Most annoying warp prism ever xD
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Somehow I enjoy watching ultralisks melt to a protoss army even tho I play zerg
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constantly dumping minerals in to mass zealot warpins via warp prism while building pure gas deathaball army
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Zealot ultra surround, now thats cool
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That warp prism should be in the unit hall of fame.
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
well this was kinda one-sided pickings
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51471 Posts
Poll: Recommend sOs vs Shine - Game 1Excellent Game (10) 71% Good Game (2) 14% Meh Game (2) 14% Bad Game (0) 0% 14 total votes Your vote: Recommend sOs vs Shine - Game 1 (Vote): Excellent Game (Vote): Good Game (Vote): Meh Game (Vote): Bad Game
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51471 Posts
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zealot is a good unit toi have. + Show Spoiler +nice harass, wp sOs. sooooo annoying :D
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Wow i've never seen someone get so thoroughly picked apart.
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That was quite action packed game. Seemed like there was fight everywhere. Thank you warp prism! <3
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United States97276 Posts
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I'm going to die laughing if sOs copies Ruin
seems like the guy to do it too
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On January 15 2014 18:23 Pandemona wrote: sOs won a game :3 That is so 2013.
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I generally dont like PvZs where the P wins, but Shine played like so bad there that was kinda fun to watch
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If he had some roaches early on, this game would probably never snowball like that. sOs would probably still win but it would be much closer I think.
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On January 15 2014 18:22 jekku wrote: That warp prism should be in the unit hall of fame. Only a parting wp with his choo choo pushes warped more units in. Hm, i guess its pretty close.
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On January 15 2014 18:24 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: I'm going to die laughing if sOs copies Ruin
seems like the guy to do it too What did Ruin do?
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sOs, lets see some sexy walls, can't be out-shined by Ruin
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sOs won the game? no friggin way!
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51471 Posts
AMG I call ANIMAL BRUTALITY ;o What is this?!
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On January 15 2014 18:26 Pandemona wrote: AMG I call ANIMAL BRUTALITY ;o What is this?! Cheap alternative to traditional farming.
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Meanies
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Man Hydras get the short end of the stick. Tychus Findley statue is stomping one, can't morph into lurker anymore, no more hunter killer, and now getting dissected...
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51471 Posts
On January 15 2014 18:27 gingerfluffmuff wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 18:26 Pandemona wrote: AMG I call ANIMAL BRUTALITY ;o What is this?! Cheap alternative to traditional farming.
;o
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United Kingdom10443 Posts
wow the 3 gate expand, so fucking nostalgic
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On January 15 2014 18:25 Shellshock wrote:0:00  sOs spawns in the top left  Shine spawns in the bottom right
I love you! Thanks for saving my day with live reporting
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United States97276 Posts
On January 15 2014 18:25 Shellshock wrote:0:00  sOs spawns in the top left  Shine spawns in the bottom right 1:40 gateway first for sOs gas first for Shine
2:00 Pool for Shine gas for sOs Cyber core for sOs
3:00 2nd gas for sOs queen for Shine ling speed for Shine zealot for sOs Lings for Shine natural hatch for Shine MSC for sOs
4:00 sentry for sOs 2nd queen for Shine 2 more gates for sOs another sentry for sOs
5:00 overlord scouts the additional 2 gates sOs up to 5 sentries
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United States97276 Posts
aren't hallucinated buildings forcefields?
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btw. what was the game they mentioned, with protoss walls on this map?
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Never thought I'd miss Khaldor's casting as much as I did during these last few weeks of ProLeague. He's grown on me.
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51471 Posts
Wait until we see Tastosis <3333
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United Kingdom10443 Posts
I'm so happy GSL is coming back,
I'm going to be in the LR for every fucking game man, I don't give a fuck
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On January 15 2014 18:32 Pandemona wrote: Wait until we see Tastosis <3333
I'd rather not tbh. I think It's about time to put that poor caster team down.
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United States97276 Posts
On January 15 2014 18:29 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 18:25 Shellshock wrote:0:00  sOs spawns in the top left  Shine spawns in the bottom right 1:40 gateway first for sOs gas first for Shine 2:00 Pool for Shine gas for sOs Cyber core for sOs 3:00 2nd gas for sOs queen for Shine ling speed for Shine zealot for sOs Lings for Shine natural hatch for Shine MSC for sOs 4:00 sentry for sOs 2nd queen for Shine 2 more gates for sOs another sentry for sOs 5:00 overlord scouts the additional 2 gates sOs up to 5 sentries 6:00 Nexus for sOs 3rd base for Shine roach warren for Shine stargate for sOs another gas for Shine forge for sOs sOs attempting a wall in his natural
7:00 47 vs 49 another gate for sOs oracle for sOs Lair for Shine
8:00 52 vs 61 Burrow research started for Shine hallucinated oracle scouting the bases of Shine Void ray for sOs some more lings started for Shine (12)
9:00 62 vs 67 real oracle harassing the 3rd of Shine killing 7 drones before being chased off spores for Shine 3rd base for sOs Roach speed for Shine Hydralisk den for Shine another gas for sOs another gate for sOs
10:00 74 vs 79 +1 attack started for sOs another void ray for sOs lings get trapped in sOs' bu they just burrow oracle scouting the main of Shine lings harassing the 3rd of sOs killing 1 probe before running away twilight council for sOs hydra range for Shine
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On January 15 2014 18:32 KelsierSC wrote: I'm so happy GSL is coming back,
I'm going to be in the LR for every fucking game man, I don't give a fuck
Thats the right spririt!
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How's sOs going to defend this attack lol? :/ Poor guy having to play this map
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On January 15 2014 18:32 Dodgin wrote:I'd rather not tbh. I think It's about time to put that poor caster team down.
I think it's about time someone put YOU down. /hiss.
EDIT: A worthwhile 8k post.
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United Kingdom10443 Posts
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Don't look down on Void Rays.
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United States33302 Posts
woooow that attack got CRUSHED
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On January 15 2014 18:33 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 18:32 Dodgin wrote:On January 15 2014 18:32 Pandemona wrote: Wait until we see Tastosis <3333 I'd rather not tbh. I think It's about time to put that poor caster team down. I think it's about time someone put YOU down. /hiss. EDIT: A worthwhile 8k post. I like Khlador better than tastosis
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On January 15 2014 18:32 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 18:29 Shellshock wrote:On January 15 2014 18:25 Shellshock wrote:0:00  sOs spawns in the top left  Shine spawns in the bottom right 1:40 gateway first for sOs gas first for Shine 2:00 Pool for Shine gas for sOs Cyber core for sOs 3:00 2nd gas for sOs queen for Shine ling speed for Shine zealot for sOs Lings for Shine natural hatch for Shine MSC for sOs 4:00 sentry for sOs 2nd queen for Shine 2 more gates for sOs another sentry for sOs 5:00 overlord scouts the additional 2 gates sOs up to 5 sentries 6:00 Nexus for sOs 3rd base for Shine roach warren for Shine stargate for sOs another gas for Shine forge for sOs sOs attempting a wall in his natural 7:00  47 vs  49 another gate for sOs oracle for sOs Lair for Shine 8:00  52 vs  61 Burrow research started for Shine hallucinated oracle scouting the bases of Shine Void ray for sOs some more lings started for Shine (12) 9:00  62 vs  67 real oracle harassing the 3rd of Shine killing 7 drones before being chased off spores for Shine 3rd base for sOs Roach speed for Shine Hydralisk den for Shine another gas for sOs another gate for sOs 10:00  74 vs  79 +1 attack started for sOs another void ray for sOs lings get trapped in sOs' bu they just burrow oracle scouting the main of Shine lings harassing the 3rd of sOs killing 1 probe before running away twilight council for sOs hydra range for Shine 11:00 95 vs 117 Hydras started for Shine oracle harassing the 3rd of Shine roaches and lings for Shine templar archives for sOs charge research for sOs
12:00 111 vs 141 Shine moving across the map with roach ling hydra 2 more gates for sOs Storm research started for sOs Shine attackign into the natural of sOs engagement on the natural ramp forcefields behind all the hydras zerg army getting pushed back easily
13:00 112 vs 134 4th base for Shine 3 more gates for sOs +2 attac for sOs hydra speed for Shine double evo for Shine infestation pit for Shine sOs adding cannons at his bases some more roaches are killed off that were left burrowed in the natural
14:00 126 vs 125 1-1 range upgrades started for Shine swarm hosts for Shine enduring locusts for Shine pneumatic carapace for Shine Robo for sOs Blink research for sOs
15:00 142 vs 149 roach ling runby to the natural is denied and cleaned up roach runby to the 3rd is denied and cleaned up sOs walling off lots of shit with pylons more swarmhosts being made some overlords die in the middle of the map to archons
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On January 15 2014 18:33 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 18:32 Dodgin wrote:On January 15 2014 18:32 Pandemona wrote: Wait until we see Tastosis <3333 I'd rather not tbh. I think It's about time to put that poor caster team down. I think it's about time someone put YOU down. /hiss. EDIT: A worthwhile 8k post. Is there maybe a possibility that Artosis'd completey abandon us for HS?
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So this sOs guy is pretty good
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I always thought Voidrays where the counter to swarm hosts xD
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On January 15 2014 18:36 Muffloe wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 18:33 Vindicare605 wrote:On January 15 2014 18:32 Dodgin wrote:On January 15 2014 18:32 Pandemona wrote: Wait until we see Tastosis <3333 I'd rather not tbh. I think It's about time to put that poor caster team down. I think it's about time someone put YOU down. /hiss. EDIT: A worthwhile 8k post. Is there maybe a possibility that Artosis'd completey abandon us for HS?
just like monk
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shine is so ehh this series
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On January 15 2014 18:37 KelsierSC wrote: So this sOs guy is pretty good
Nah he sucks he's like 0-4 or 0-5 in PL
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On January 15 2014 18:36 Muffloe wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 18:33 Vindicare605 wrote:On January 15 2014 18:32 Dodgin wrote:On January 15 2014 18:32 Pandemona wrote: Wait until we see Tastosis <3333 I'd rather not tbh. I think It's about time to put that poor caster team down. I think it's about time someone put YOU down. /hiss. EDIT: A worthwhile 8k post. Is there maybe a possibility that Artosis'd completey abandon us for HS?
didnt he stream sc2 yesterday?
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This seriously looks like desrows 2 challenger games that were played on daedalus (minus the void rays)
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On January 15 2014 18:38 Dodgin wrote:Nah he sucks he's like 0-4 or 0-5 in PL
Worst player ever!!
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On January 15 2014 18:37 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 18:36 Muffloe wrote:On January 15 2014 18:33 Vindicare605 wrote:On January 15 2014 18:32 Dodgin wrote:On January 15 2014 18:32 Pandemona wrote: Wait until we see Tastosis <3333 I'd rather not tbh. I think It's about time to put that poor caster team down. I think it's about time someone put YOU down. /hiss. EDIT: A worthwhile 8k post. Is there maybe a possibility that Artosis'd completey abandon us for HS? just like monk I hope that his passion is too big tho!
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On January 15 2014 18:38 Dodgin wrote:Nah he sucks he's like 0-4 or 0-5 in PL
But PL isn't everything. (Though I admit that I expected sOs to fare way better than he did...)
Look at Flash. A god in PL. Quite meh in other leagues (except at the very beginning of HotS).
Edit: Uh well, dunno if sarcasm, my detector is broken
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On January 15 2014 18:38 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 18:38 Dodgin wrote:On January 15 2014 18:37 KelsierSC wrote: So this sOs guy is pretty good Nah he sucks he's like 0-4 or 0-5 in PL Worst player ever!!
Exactly!
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On January 15 2014 18:36 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 18:32 Shellshock wrote:On January 15 2014 18:29 Shellshock wrote:On January 15 2014 18:25 Shellshock wrote:0:00  sOs spawns in the top left  Shine spawns in the bottom right 1:40 gateway first for sOs gas first for Shine 2:00 Pool for Shine gas for sOs Cyber core for sOs 3:00 2nd gas for sOs queen for Shine ling speed for Shine zealot for sOs Lings for Shine natural hatch for Shine MSC for sOs 4:00 sentry for sOs 2nd queen for Shine 2 more gates for sOs another sentry for sOs 5:00 overlord scouts the additional 2 gates sOs up to 5 sentries 6:00 Nexus for sOs 3rd base for Shine roach warren for Shine stargate for sOs another gas for Shine forge for sOs sOs attempting a wall in his natural 7:00  47 vs  49 another gate for sOs oracle for sOs Lair for Shine 8:00  52 vs  61 Burrow research started for Shine hallucinated oracle scouting the bases of Shine Void ray for sOs some more lings started for Shine (12) 9:00  62 vs  67 real oracle harassing the 3rd of Shine killing 7 drones before being chased off spores for Shine 3rd base for sOs Roach speed for Shine Hydralisk den for Shine another gas for sOs another gate for sOs 10:00  74 vs  79 +1 attack started for sOs another void ray for sOs lings get trapped in sOs' bu they just burrow oracle scouting the main of Shine lings harassing the 3rd of sOs killing 1 probe before running away twilight council for sOs hydra range for Shine 11:00  95 vs  117 Hydras started for Shine oracle harassing the 3rd of Shine roaches and lings for Shine templar archives for sOs charge research for sOs 12:00  111 vs  141 Shine moving across the map with roach ling hydra 2 more gates for sOs Storm research started for sOs Shine attackign into the natural of sOs engagement on the natural ramp forcefields behind all the hydras zerg army getting pushed back easily 13:00  112 vs  134 4th base for Shine 3 more gates for sOs +2 attac for sOs hydra speed for Shine double evo for Shine infestation pit for Shine sOs adding cannons at his bases some more roaches are killed off that were left burrowed in the natural 14:00  126 vs  125 1-1 range upgrades started for Shine swarm hosts for Shine enduring locusts for Shine pneumatic carapace for Shine Robo for sOs Blink research for sOs 15:00  142 vs  149 roach ling runby to the natural is denied and cleaned up roach runby to the 3rd is denied and cleaned up sOs walling off lots of shit with pylons more swarmhosts being made some overlords die in the middle of the map to archons 16:00 179 vs 170 sOs moving towards the 4th of Shine armies engage outside Shine's 3rd storm on the swarm hosts cause them to retreat zealots killing all the drones at the 4th sOs killing the 3rd of Shine with his main army storm on the locusts as they come in roach runby to the 3rd of sOs sOs making observers
17:00 141 vs 157 3rd base of Shine is killed roaches are able to save the 4th base of Shine Colossus production and extended thermal lance research started for sOs +3 attack for sOs 3 void rays kill the 4th of Shine because he has no anti air 3rd base restarted for Shine 4th base finishing up for sOs
18:00 136 vs 166 Shine moving across the map with his swarm host roach army Spire for Shine sOs retreats back to his natural to regroup his army
19:00 160 vs 190 armies engage between the natural and 3rd of sOs observer of sOs is picked off by hydras roach runby at the 4th of sOs Shine backs off after unleashing another wave of locusts
20:00 138 vs 183 sOs moves to save his 4th base but Shine is able to push him back with his main army 4th of sOs is destroyed Shine moves his army back to his half of the map Corruptors started for Shine
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huh, surprised this is close again. Shine's unit control is pretty poor this game
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Aha. When i click on "Source" quality it shows "yearly subscription now only 19.99" -> so i subscribed. After paying, i get to a screen -> "Valid January 15th to April 5th" wtf ??
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On January 15 2014 18:39 Ragnarork wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 18:38 Dodgin wrote:On January 15 2014 18:37 KelsierSC wrote: So this sOs guy is pretty good Nah he sucks he's like 0-4 or 0-5 in PL But PL isn't everything. (Though I admit that I expected sOs to fare way better than he did...) Look at Flash. A god in PL. Quite meh in other leagues (except at the very beginning of HotS). Edit: Uh well, dunno if sarcasm, my detector is broken 
I was half serious
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On January 15 2014 18:40 Rollora wrote: Aha. When i click on "Source" quality it shows "yearly subscription now only 19.99" -> so i subscribed. After paying, i get to a screen -> "Valid January 15th to April 5th" wtf ??
It's 20 for 1 season, not sure why it says yearly.
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On January 15 2014 18:38 Dodgin wrote:Nah he sucks he's like 0-4 or 0-5 in PL
Lots of VODS for opponents to watch because sOs wins so much =)
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On January 15 2014 18:40 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 18:39 Ragnarork wrote:On January 15 2014 18:38 Dodgin wrote:On January 15 2014 18:37 KelsierSC wrote: So this sOs guy is pretty good Nah he sucks he's like 0-4 or 0-5 in PL But PL isn't everything. (Though I admit that I expected sOs to fare way better than he did...) Look at Flash. A god in PL. Quite meh in other leagues (except at the very beginning of HotS). Edit: Uh well, dunno if sarcasm, my detector is broken  I was half serious
Fair enough, I was half dumb then.
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sos and hydra are probably good picks for next round if their value tanks enough this round
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On January 15 2014 18:39 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 18:36 Shellshock wrote:On January 15 2014 18:32 Shellshock wrote:On January 15 2014 18:29 Shellshock wrote:On January 15 2014 18:25 Shellshock wrote:0:00  sOs spawns in the top left  Shine spawns in the bottom right 1:40 gateway first for sOs gas first for Shine 2:00 Pool for Shine gas for sOs Cyber core for sOs 3:00 2nd gas for sOs queen for Shine ling speed for Shine zealot for sOs Lings for Shine natural hatch for Shine MSC for sOs 4:00 sentry for sOs 2nd queen for Shine 2 more gates for sOs another sentry for sOs 5:00 overlord scouts the additional 2 gates sOs up to 5 sentries 6:00 Nexus for sOs 3rd base for Shine roach warren for Shine stargate for sOs another gas for Shine forge for sOs sOs attempting a wall in his natural 7:00  47 vs  49 another gate for sOs oracle for sOs Lair for Shine 8:00  52 vs  61 Burrow research started for Shine hallucinated oracle scouting the bases of Shine Void ray for sOs some more lings started for Shine (12) 9:00  62 vs  67 real oracle harassing the 3rd of Shine killing 7 drones before being chased off spores for Shine 3rd base for sOs Roach speed for Shine Hydralisk den for Shine another gas for sOs another gate for sOs 10:00  74 vs  79 +1 attack started for sOs another void ray for sOs lings get trapped in sOs' bu they just burrow oracle scouting the main of Shine lings harassing the 3rd of sOs killing 1 probe before running away twilight council for sOs hydra range for Shine 11:00  95 vs  117 Hydras started for Shine oracle harassing the 3rd of Shine roaches and lings for Shine templar archives for sOs charge research for sOs 12:00  111 vs  141 Shine moving across the map with roach ling hydra 2 more gates for sOs Storm research started for sOs Shine attackign into the natural of sOs engagement on the natural ramp forcefields behind all the hydras zerg army getting pushed back easily 13:00  112 vs  134 4th base for Shine 3 more gates for sOs +2 attac for sOs hydra speed for Shine double evo for Shine infestation pit for Shine sOs adding cannons at his bases some more roaches are killed off that were left burrowed in the natural 14:00  126 vs  125 1-1 range upgrades started for Shine swarm hosts for Shine enduring locusts for Shine pneumatic carapace for Shine Robo for sOs Blink research for sOs 15:00  142 vs  149 roach ling runby to the natural is denied and cleaned up roach runby to the 3rd is denied and cleaned up sOs walling off lots of shit with pylons more swarmhosts being made some overlords die in the middle of the map to archons 16:00  179 vs  170 sOs moving towards the 4th of Shine armies engage outside Shine's 3rd storm on the swarm hosts cause them to retreat zealots killing all the drones at the 4th sOs killing the 3rd of Shine with his main army storm on the locusts as they come in roach runby to the 3rd of sOs sOs making observers 17:00  141 vs  157 3rd base of Shine is killed roaches are able to save the 4th base of Shine Colossus production and extended thermal lance research started for sOs +3 attack for sOs 3 void rays kill the 4th of Shine because he has no anti air 3rd base restarted for Shine 4th base finishing up for sOs 18:00  136 vs  166 Shine moving across the map with his swarm host roach army Spire for Shine sOs retreats back to his natural to regroup his army 19:00  160 vs  190 armies engage between the natural and 3rd of sOs observer of sOs is picked off by hydras roach runby at the 4th of sOs Shine backs off after unleashing another wave of locusts 20:00  138 vs  183 sOs moves to save his 4th base but Shine is able to push him back with his main army 4th of sOs is destroyed Shine moves his army back to his half of the map Corruptors started for Shine 21:00 158 vs 190 +2 range attack started for Shine 4th base restarted for Shine sOs starts a 4th base at the 9 o clock position more corruptors for Shine 3 colossi out for sOs
22:00 176 vs 194 +2 carapace started for Shine Dark Shrine for sOs swarm hosts start sending waves of locusts towards the army of sOs engagement in the middle of the map storm on the army of Shine Shine unburrows his swarmhosts and retreats
23:00 166 vs 181 Shine adding static defense at his bases zealot runby at the 4th of Shine before the spines finish infestors coming out for Shine Shine cleans up the zealots
24:00 192 vs 188 Hive for Shine +1 air attack for Shine roach runby to the natural is deflected +1 melee started for Shine DTs harassing the 4th of Shine DT harassing the 3rd of Shine DTs are being cleaned up
25:00 194 vs 166 engagement at the 3rd of Shine storm and colossi lasers all over the swarm hosts Shine's army is melted Shine ggs!
sOs wins 2-0!
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sOs looking pretty swell there. GG
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On January 15 2014 18:41 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 18:40 Rollora wrote: Aha. When i click on "Source" quality it shows "yearly subscription now only 19.99" -> so i subscribed. After paying, i get to a screen -> "Valid January 15th to April 5th" wtf ?? It's 20 for 1 season, not sure why it says yearly. it's an outright lie and i will try to get my money back. + i cannot watch VODs from the morning still...
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Protoss'ed. Everything is dying to bright lights.
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On January 15 2014 18:41 opterown wrote: sos and hydra are probably good picks for next round if their value tanks enough this round
sOs probably. Hydra, I'm still not buying the hype
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so tell me sos, why don't you play like that, when you would give me FPL points?
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You have to respect the storms Shine.
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On January 15 2014 18:44 Rollora wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 18:41 Dodgin wrote:On January 15 2014 18:40 Rollora wrote: Aha. When i click on "Source" quality it shows "yearly subscription now only 19.99" -> so i subscribed. After paying, i get to a screen -> "Valid January 15th to April 5th" wtf ?? It's 20 for 1 season, not sure why it says yearly. it's an outright lie and i will try to get my money back. + i cannot watch VODs from the morning still...
http://www.twitch.tv/gsl/subscribe?ref=below_video_subscribe_button
it says " buy 1 season 19.99 " " buy yearly 54.99 " for me
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Poll: Recommend sOs vs Shine - Game 2Good Game (5) 45% Meh Game (3) 27% Excellent Game (2) 18% Bad Game (1) 9% 11 total votes Your vote: Recommend sOs vs Shine - Game 2 (Vote): Excellent Game (Vote): Good Game (Vote): Meh Game (Vote): Bad Game
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Poll: Recommend sOs vs Shine - Game 3Good Game (4) 57% Excellent Game (2) 29% Meh Game (1) 14% Bad Game (0) 0% 7 total votes Your vote: Recommend sOs vs Shine - Game 3 (Vote): Excellent Game (Vote): Good Game (Vote): Meh Game (Vote): Bad Game
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On January 15 2014 18:44 gingerfluffmuff wrote: Protoss'ed. Everything is dying to bright lights. Even 2gate?
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On January 15 2014 18:44 mahrgell wrote: so tell me sos, why don't you play like that, when you would give me FPL points?
I'm wondering as well (dat captain... u_u)
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On January 15 2014 18:44 Qwerty85 wrote: You have to respect the storms Shine. What about the void rays? They need some respect too.
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On January 15 2014 18:44 gingerfluffmuff wrote: Protoss'ed. Everything is dying to bright lights. Yeah, hopefully we'll avoid to encounter them in reality. Although who am I kidding, that would be awesome!
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sOs should roll through this group so that series wasn't really a surprise. I wonder how well Gumiho is going to play, I really miss seeing him do well ;_;
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On January 15 2014 18:45 Ragnarork wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 18:44 mahrgell wrote: so tell me sos, why don't you play like that, when you would give me FPL points? I'm wondering as well (dat captain... u_u)
Oh captain my captain
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On January 15 2014 18:45 Muffloe wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 18:44 gingerfluffmuff wrote: Protoss'ed. Everything is dying to bright lights. Yeah, hopefully we'll avoid to encounter them in reality. Although who am I kidding, that would be awesome! Like a laser show at a concert, only with more casualties.
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This Shine was more expensive than the other Shine, but you could get both of them for the cost of sOs /FPL facts
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On January 15 2014 18:45 Muffloe wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 18:44 gingerfluffmuff wrote: Protoss'ed. Everything is dying to bright lights. Yeah, hopefully we'll avoid to encounter them in reality. Although who am I kidding, that would be awesome!
Depends if the encounter implies a big protoss ship razing earth on the suspicion it hides zergs.
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On January 15 2014 18:47 AlternativeEgo wrote: This Shine was more expensive than the other Shine, but you could get both of them for the cost of sOs /FPL facts
This Shine isn't playing in SPL even if all MVP except Sniper and Super can't do shit.
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who did classic used to be?
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On January 15 2014 18:47 Ragnarork wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 18:45 Muffloe wrote:On January 15 2014 18:44 gingerfluffmuff wrote: Protoss'ed. Everything is dying to bright lights. Yeah, hopefully we'll avoid to encounter them in reality. Although who am I kidding, that would be awesome! Depends if the encounter implies a big protoss ship razing earth on the suspicion it hides zergs.  Atleast we'd get both a cool laser show AND get rid of the zerg then ^^
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On January 15 2014 18:50 KelsierSC wrote: who did classic used to be?
Proleague champion, 73% winrate in HotS. Not nuff?
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On January 15 2014 18:50 KelsierSC wrote: who did classic used to be?
uh, classic
he moved from stx->skt tho
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Time for Gumiho's whirlwind of pain
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hoping this one will be good!
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On January 15 2014 18:51 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Proleague champion, 73% winrate in HotS. Not nuff?
I wasn't saying he was bad or anything, just wondered if he had any alternate names
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On January 15 2014 18:44 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 18:44 Rollora wrote:On January 15 2014 18:41 Dodgin wrote:On January 15 2014 18:40 Rollora wrote: Aha. When i click on "Source" quality it shows "yearly subscription now only 19.99" -> so i subscribed. After paying, i get to a screen -> "Valid January 15th to April 5th" wtf ?? It's 20 for 1 season, not sure why it says yearly. it's an outright lie and i will try to get my money back. + i cannot watch VODs from the morning still... http://www.twitch.tv/gsl/subscribe?ref=below_video_subscribe_buttonit says " buy 1 season 19.99 " " buy yearly 54.99 " for me It does 4 me as well. But when i switch to SOURCE it shows "yearly subscription 19.99" and thats when it shows the page to pay these 19.99. I payed, not knowing I have to read again for how long this ticket will be valuable. Didn't know you have to read again if something is called yearly, for how long it is going to be working...
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I really like Gummibear, but i just cant see him winning .
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Classic showed great game yesterday :D Hope he continues. Or was it Sunday or Monday oh i don't know i get confused so much SC2 xD
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Alright GuMiHo, how good are you now?
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go go gu mi ho go go gu mi ho ~ !
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On January 15 2014 18:52 gingerfluffmuff wrote:I really like Gummibear, but i just cant see him winning  . you have to watch more closely then, or switch to a higher quality
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On January 15 2014 18:53 Ragnarork wrote: Alright GuMiHo, how good are you now? On a scale from Maru to Hydra?
On January 15 2014 18:54 Rollora wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 18:52 gingerfluffmuff wrote:I really like Gummibear, but i just cant see him winning  . you have to watch more closely then, or switch to a higher quality I am at home, have to watch medium b/c of countryside internet
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Well, is there anybody wanna see korean stream?
HERE it is!!
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On January 15 2014 18:52 Rollora wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 18:44 Dodgin wrote:On January 15 2014 18:44 Rollora wrote:On January 15 2014 18:41 Dodgin wrote:On January 15 2014 18:40 Rollora wrote: Aha. When i click on "Source" quality it shows "yearly subscription now only 19.99" -> so i subscribed. After paying, i get to a screen -> "Valid January 15th to April 5th" wtf ?? It's 20 for 1 season, not sure why it says yearly. it's an outright lie and i will try to get my money back. + i cannot watch VODs from the morning still... http://www.twitch.tv/gsl/subscribe?ref=below_video_subscribe_buttonit says " buy 1 season 19.99 " " buy yearly 54.99 " for me It does 4 me as well. But when i switch to SOURCE it shows "yearly subscription 19.99" and thats when it shows the page to pay these 19.99. I payed, not knowing I have to read again for how long this ticket will be valuable. Didn't know you have to read again if something is called yearly, for how long it is going to be working...
I'm sure they will give you a refund.
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On January 15 2014 18:54 RanScream wrote:Well, is there anybody wanna see korean stream? HERE it is!! not available in country hrmm
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On January 15 2014 18:54 RanScream wrote:Well, is there anybody wanna see korean stream? HERE it is!!
It's only available in Korea i think. Doesn't work in UK anyway
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On January 15 2014 18:52 Shellshock wrote:0:00  Classic spawns in the top  GuMiho spawns in the bottom 1:40 rax first for GuMiho gateway first for Classic gas for GuMiho
2:00 gas for Classic reactor for GuMiho cybernetics core for Classic
3:00 zealot for Classic 2 reapers for GuMiho Nexus for Classic MSC for Classic
4:00 2nd gas for Classic rax for GuMiho CC for GuMiho on the low ground stalker for Classic reapers of GuMiho arrive at the base of Classic 2 probes are killed but 1 reaper dies
5:00 Stargate for Classic tech lab for GuMiho 2nd gas for GuMiho another stalker for Classic stim research or GuMiho
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On January 15 2014 18:55 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 18:54 RanScream wrote:Well, is there anybody wanna see korean stream? HERE it is!! It's only available in Korea i think. Doesn't work in UK anyway Then use a addon for your browser.
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On January 15 2014 18:54 gingerfluffmuff wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 18:53 Ragnarork wrote: Alright GuMiHo, how good are you now? On a scale from Maru to Hydra?
Huge scale, dunno. I'd rate him around Bbyong, but that's a wild guess.
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On January 15 2014 18:56 gingerfluffmuff wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 18:55 Pandemona wrote:On January 15 2014 18:54 RanScream wrote:Well, is there anybody wanna see korean stream? HERE it is!! It's only available in Korea i think. Doesn't work in UK anyway Then use a addon for your browser.
But thats naughty ;o Plus im at work = too much effort
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Wow classic getting great value out of his Oracle considering how many marines are around.
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big supply block for gumiho :S
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On January 15 2014 18:56 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 18:52 Shellshock wrote:0:00  Classic spawns in the top  GuMiho spawns in the bottom 1:40 rax first for GuMiho gateway first for Classic gas for GuMiho 2:00 gas for Classic reactor for GuMiho cybernetics core for Classic 3:00 zealot for Classic 2 reapers for GuMiho Nexus for Classic MSC for Classic 4:00 2nd gas for Classic rax for GuMiho CC for GuMiho on the low ground stalker for Classic reapers of GuMiho arrive at the base of Classic 2 probes are killed but 1 reaper dies 5:00 Stargate for Classic tech lab for GuMiho 2nd gas for GuMiho another stalker for Classic stim research or GuMiho 6:00 Factory for GuMiho oracle for Classic forge for Classic Starport for GuMiho
7:00 51 vs 51 ebay for GUMiho twilight council for Classic oracle harassing the natural of GuMiho killing 2 scvs
8:00 59 vs 54 +1 armor for Classic 2 more gates for Classic +1 attack for GuMiho medivacs for GuMiho widow mine for GuMiho oracle in the main of GuMiho kills 3 more scvs Classic is ahead by 14 workers charge research for Classic Templar archives for Classic combat shields for GuMiho
9:00 63 vs 68 missile turrets for GuMiho more gates for Classic phoenix for Classic 3rd CC for GuMiho photon overcharge on the natural nexus pushes back GuMiho's poke
10:00 79 vs 78 3 more rax for GuMiho +2 armor for Classic triple drop in the main of Classic drop in the natural of Classic widow mines in the natural of Classic photon overcharge on the main nexus
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I like the concept of using phoenix to deal with medivac drops, kind of cool
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this is a very gumiho game, but I don't think this cute stuff is going to work.
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On January 15 2014 18:59 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 18:56 Shellshock wrote:On January 15 2014 18:52 Shellshock wrote:0:00  Classic spawns in the top  GuMiho spawns in the bottom 1:40 rax first for GuMiho gateway first for Classic gas for GuMiho 2:00 gas for Classic reactor for GuMiho cybernetics core for Classic 3:00 zealot for Classic 2 reapers for GuMiho Nexus for Classic MSC for Classic 4:00 2nd gas for Classic rax for GuMiho CC for GuMiho on the low ground stalker for Classic reapers of GuMiho arrive at the base of Classic 2 probes are killed but 1 reaper dies 5:00 Stargate for Classic tech lab for GuMiho 2nd gas for GuMiho another stalker for Classic stim research or GuMiho 6:00 Factory for GuMiho oracle for Classic forge for Classic Starport for GuMiho 7:00  51 vs  51 ebay for GUMiho twilight council for Classic oracle harassing the natural of GuMiho killing 2 scvs 8:00  59 vs  54 +1 armor for Classic 2 more gates for Classic +1 attack for GuMiho medivacs for GuMiho widow mine for GuMiho oracle in the main of GuMiho kills 3 more scvs Classic is ahead by 14 workers charge research for Classic Templar archives for Classic combat shields for GuMiho 9:00  63 vs  68 missile turrets for GuMiho more gates for Classic phoenix for Classic 3rd CC for GuMiho photon overcharge on the natural nexus pushes back GuMiho's poke 10:00  79 vs  78 3 more rax for GuMiho +2 armor for Classic triple drop in the main of Classic drop in the natural of Classic widow mines in the natural of Classic photon overcharge on the main nexus 1!:00 69 vs 75 GuMiho takes the worker lead phoenix zealot archon cleans up the drops 10 probes were killed by the drops
12:00 82 vs 68 armory and 2nd ebay for GuMiho drop in the main of Classic is cleaned up concussive shells for GuMiho GuMiho adding in marauders Classic moving across the map
13:00 104 vs 90 storm is finished for Classic GuMiho has no bunkers Classic pushing into the natural of GuMiho storm ont he army of GuMiho scvs in the natural are pulled more storms more zealots arrive
14:00 80 vs 66 GuMiho ggs as his natural is broken
Classic wins game 1!
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Poll: Recommend Classic vs Gumiho - Game 1Good Game (5) 56% Bad Game (2) 22% Excellent Game (1) 11% Meh Game (1) 11% 9 total votes Your vote: Recommend Classic vs Gumiho - Game 1 (Vote): Excellent Game (Vote): Good Game (Vote): Meh Game (Vote): Bad Game
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first couple of storms were really bad but with 4+ storms you cant fail
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gumiho
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Classic made the right choice to switch to Protoss, damn he's good.
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On January 15 2014 19:02 Fjodorov wrote: first couple of storms were really bad but with 4+ storms you cant fail
Well I don't know, they zoned out the army pretty well
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Wow, didn't expect that at all
GuMiho overextended, something that is usually not a problem, except when P has phoenixes
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Gogogo Gumiho, please win the next 2!
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On January 15 2014 19:00 KelsierSC wrote: I like the concept of using phoenix to deal with medivac drops, kind of cool Its cool, but this strat is for korean P only. Same in PvZ imo, penix scale well with multitasking.
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On January 15 2014 19:02 Fjodorov wrote: first couple of storms were really bad but with 4+ storms you cant fail
take it from a protoss, It's pretty hard to have " bad " storms. they're usually useful just for zoning regardless.
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CLASSSSSSIC I liked his play there, i thought Gumiho was doing really good damage with his 2 widow mine push as well as the drop in the main.
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No colossus play is so nice.
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On January 15 2014 19:03 Ketch wrote: Gogogo Gumiho, please win the next 2!
He would still die to that timing without like 5-6 bunkers.. You basically need to have all your bio in bunkers. I dont think Classic ever intended to take a 3rd base
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On January 15 2014 19:02 Shellshock wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On January 15 2014 18:59 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 18:56 Shellshock wrote:On January 15 2014 18:52 Shellshock wrote:0:00  Classic spawns in the top  GuMiho spawns in the bottom 1:40 rax first for GuMiho gateway first for Classic gas for GuMiho 2:00 gas for Classic reactor for GuMiho cybernetics core for Classic 3:00 zealot for Classic 2 reapers for GuMiho Nexus for Classic MSC for Classic 4:00 2nd gas for Classic rax for GuMiho CC for GuMiho on the low ground stalker for Classic reapers of GuMiho arrive at the base of Classic 2 probes are killed but 1 reaper dies 5:00 Stargate for Classic tech lab for GuMiho 2nd gas for GuMiho another stalker for Classic stim research or GuMiho 6:00 Factory for GuMiho oracle for Classic forge for Classic Starport for GuMiho 7:00  51 vs  51 ebay for GUMiho twilight council for Classic oracle harassing the natural of GuMiho killing 2 scvs 8:00  59 vs  54 +1 armor for Classic 2 more gates for Classic +1 attack for GuMiho medivacs for GuMiho widow mine for GuMiho oracle in the main of GuMiho kills 3 more scvs Classic is ahead by 14 workers charge research for Classic Templar archives for Classic combat shields for GuMiho 9:00  63 vs  68 missile turrets for GuMiho more gates for Classic phoenix for Classic 3rd CC for GuMiho photon overcharge on the natural nexus pushes back GuMiho's poke 10:00  79 vs  78 3 more rax for GuMiho +2 armor for Classic triple drop in the main of Classic drop in the natural of Classic widow mines in the natural of Classic photon overcharge on the main nexus 1!:00  69 vs  75 GuMiho takes the worker lead phoenix zealot archon cleans up the drops 10 probes were killed by the drops 12:00  82 vs  68 armory and 2nd ebay for GuMiho drop in the main of Classic is cleaned up concussive shells for GuMiho GuMiho adding in marauders Classic moving across the map 13:00  104 vs  90 storm is finished for Classic GuMiho has no bunkers Classic pushing into the natural of GuMiho storm ont he army of GuMiho scvs in the natural are pulled more storms more zealots arrive 14:00  80 vs  66 GuMiho ggs as his natural is broken  Classic wins game 1! Thx for doing the LR mate. Shellbot for Cyborg President!
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Wow that probe scout timing. Incredible.
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Not making a bunker vs P is SUICIDE
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On January 15 2014 19:04 Shellshock wrote:0:00  Classic spawns in the top right  GuMiho spawns in the bottom left 1:40 rax first for GuMiho gateway first for Classic gas for GuMiho
2:00 gas for Classic cybernetics core for Classic reaper for GuMiho
3:00 zealot for Classic CC on the high ground for GuMiho reactor for GuMiho MSC for Classic stalker for Classic
4:00 2nd rax for GuMiho probe harassing the building scv of GuMiho reaper arrives in the main of Classic MSC and zealot are moving across the map stalker repels the reaper 2nd stalker for Classic ebay for GuMiho Classic chronoboosting out his next stalker bunker for GuMiho
5:00 MSC probe zealot in the main of GuMiho GuMiho has 4 marines bunker isnt done in the mineral line timewarp on the marines scvs in the main are pulled to help defend stalker arrives to help kite scvs 3 stalkers out stalker and MSC are attacking the reactor for GuMiho bunker is finished in the mineral line marines are being killed as they spawn scvs are pulled again the stalkers of Classic are finally cleaned up
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On January 15 2014 18:54 gingerfluffmuff wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 18:54 Rollora wrote:On January 15 2014 18:52 gingerfluffmuff wrote:I really like Gummibear, but i just cant see him winning  . you have to watch more closely then, or switch to a higher quality I am at home, have to watch medium b/c of countryside internet  same here, countryside internet (4 mbit AON) miraculously works better with twicht than my other 100 mbit internet in the city
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lol. nice placement of pylon + ff :D
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I love Gumi but I also love watching TvZ. win-win
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On January 15 2014 19:08 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 19:04 Shellshock wrote:0:00  Classic spawns in the top right  GuMiho spawns in the bottom left 1:40 rax first for GuMiho gateway first for Classic gas for GuMiho 2:00 gas for Classic cybernetics core for Classic reaper for GuMiho 3:00 zealot for Classic CC on the high ground for GuMiho reactor for GuMiho MSC for Classic stalker for Classic 4:00 2nd rax for GuMiho probe harassing the building scv of GuMiho reaper arrives in the main of Classic MSC and zealot are moving across the map stalker repels the reaper 2nd stalker for Classic ebay for GuMiho Classic chronoboosting out his next stalker bunker for GuMiho 5:00 MSC probe zealot in the main of GuMiho GuMiho has 4 marines bunker isnt done in the mineral line timewarp on the marines scvs in the main are pulled to help defend stalker arrives to help kite scvs 3 stalkers out stalker and MSC are attacking the reactor for GuMiho bunker is finished in the mineral line marines are being killed as they spawn scvs are pulled again the stalkers of Classic are finally cleaned up 6:00 4 scvs were killed by Classic twilight council and forge for Classic +1 attack for GuMiho nexus half way done for Classic 2 more gates for Classic factory for GuMiho tech lab for GuMiho stim research for GuMiho
7:00 39 vs 33 templar archives for Classic +1 armor for Classic starport for GuMiho
8:00 47 vs 44 natural CC is landed for GuMiho 2 more gas for Classic storm research started for Classic missile turret for GuMiho +1 armor for GuMiho
9:00 57 vs 56 medivacs for GuMiho 2 more gates for Classic reaper is killed when it tries to scout the main robo for Classic 2 more gates for Classic 3rd CC for GuMiho GuMiho moving out on the map with a pure marine army
10:00 65 vs 64 hallucinated phoenix scouts the incoming army photon overcharge on the natural nexus storm on the marines of GuMiho 3rd rax finishes for GuMiho warp prism for Classic charge on the way for Classic +2 armor for Classic combat shields for GuMiho widow mine for GuMiho 2 more rax for GuMiho
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These early templars, man...
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ouch these storms
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classic looking so clutch. really solid play.
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Classic is playing this quite impressive.
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Classic's placement is just superb. He just fucking gets it
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On January 15 2014 19:11 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 19:08 Shellshock wrote:On January 15 2014 19:04 Shellshock wrote:0:00  Classic spawns in the top right  GuMiho spawns in the bottom left 1:40 rax first for GuMiho gateway first for Classic gas for GuMiho 2:00 gas for Classic cybernetics core for Classic reaper for GuMiho 3:00 zealot for Classic CC on the high ground for GuMiho reactor for GuMiho MSC for Classic stalker for Classic 4:00 2nd rax for GuMiho probe harassing the building scv of GuMiho reaper arrives in the main of Classic MSC and zealot are moving across the map stalker repels the reaper 2nd stalker for Classic ebay for GuMiho Classic chronoboosting out his next stalker bunker for GuMiho 5:00 MSC probe zealot in the main of GuMiho GuMiho has 4 marines bunker isnt done in the mineral line timewarp on the marines scvs in the main are pulled to help defend stalker arrives to help kite scvs 3 stalkers out stalker and MSC are attacking the reactor for GuMiho bunker is finished in the mineral line marines are being killed as they spawn scvs are pulled again the stalkers of Classic are finally cleaned up 6:00 4 scvs were killed by Classic twilight council and forge for Classic +1 attack for GuMiho nexus half way done for Classic 2 more gates for Classic factory for GuMiho tech lab for GuMiho stim research for GuMiho 7:00  39 vs  33 templar archives for Classic +1 armor for Classic starport for GuMiho 8:00  47 vs  44 natural CC is landed for GuMiho 2 more gas for Classic storm research started for Classic missile turret for GuMiho +1 armor for GuMiho 9:00  57 vs  56 medivacs for GuMiho 2 more gates for Classic reaper is killed when it tries to scout the main robo for Classic 2 more gates for Classic 3rd CC for GuMiho GuMiho moving out on the map with a pure marine army 10:00  65 vs  64 hallucinated phoenix scouts the incoming army photon overcharge on the natural nexus storm on the marines of GuMiho 3rd rax finishes for GuMiho warp prism for Classic charge on the way for Classic +2 armor for Classic combat shields for GuMiho widow mine for GuMiho 2 more rax for GuMiho 11:00 89 vs 84 drop in the natural of Classic is repelled warp prism and medivac pass each other on the map medivac drops marines HT dropped to feedback medivac drop of Gumiho is killed off by storm
12:00 93 vs 88 Classic starts a 3rd base Classic saves his warp prism vikings started for GuMiho +2 attack started for GuMiho another dropship is feedbacked to half health storm and photon overcharge defend a drop in the main of Classic
13:00 113 vs 104 GuMiho lands his 3rd base +2 armor started for GuMiho robo bay for Classic +1 attack for Classic armies engage in the middle of the map briefly storm drop in the natural of GuMiho whiffs with quick reactions storm drop in the main kills more scvs engagement in the middle of the map storm on GuMiho's widow mines GuMiho lifts his bio and flies away
14:00 124 vs 108 warp prism is killed off by vikings Colossus production started for Classic Extended thermal lance research for Classic Classic ahead by 18 workers
15:00 135 vs 122 ghost academy for GuMiho +1 vehicle weapons for GuMiho +3 armor for Classic 2nd forge for Classic 2 more gates for Classic +2 attack for Classic
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Glanced at Twitch chat, it seems like the Protoss hate is growing even larger lately.
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Maybe Gumiho need to emphasize his fundamental strength; multitask him to death!
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gumiho used to be pretty good with his ghosts but I dont think he can deal with the double splash anyways..
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On January 15 2014 19:15 Dodgin wrote: Glanced at Twitch chat, it seems like the Protoss hate is growing even larger lately.
Never do this. EVER!!!!
Kappa Kappa, fuck me it makes me want to go on a fucking kill spree
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On January 15 2014 19:14 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 19:11 Shellshock wrote:On January 15 2014 19:08 Shellshock wrote:On January 15 2014 19:04 Shellshock wrote:0:00  Classic spawns in the top right  GuMiho spawns in the bottom left 1:40 rax first for GuMiho gateway first for Classic gas for GuMiho 2:00 gas for Classic cybernetics core for Classic reaper for GuMiho 3:00 zealot for Classic CC on the high ground for GuMiho reactor for GuMiho MSC for Classic stalker for Classic 4:00 2nd rax for GuMiho probe harassing the building scv of GuMiho reaper arrives in the main of Classic MSC and zealot are moving across the map stalker repels the reaper 2nd stalker for Classic ebay for GuMiho Classic chronoboosting out his next stalker bunker for GuMiho 5:00 MSC probe zealot in the main of GuMiho GuMiho has 4 marines bunker isnt done in the mineral line timewarp on the marines scvs in the main are pulled to help defend stalker arrives to help kite scvs 3 stalkers out stalker and MSC are attacking the reactor for GuMiho bunker is finished in the mineral line marines are being killed as they spawn scvs are pulled again the stalkers of Classic are finally cleaned up 6:00 4 scvs were killed by Classic twilight council and forge for Classic +1 attack for GuMiho nexus half way done for Classic 2 more gates for Classic factory for GuMiho tech lab for GuMiho stim research for GuMiho 7:00  39 vs  33 templar archives for Classic +1 armor for Classic starport for GuMiho 8:00  47 vs  44 natural CC is landed for GuMiho 2 more gas for Classic storm research started for Classic missile turret for GuMiho +1 armor for GuMiho 9:00  57 vs  56 medivacs for GuMiho 2 more gates for Classic reaper is killed when it tries to scout the main robo for Classic 2 more gates for Classic 3rd CC for GuMiho GuMiho moving out on the map with a pure marine army 10:00  65 vs  64 hallucinated phoenix scouts the incoming army photon overcharge on the natural nexus storm on the marines of GuMiho 3rd rax finishes for GuMiho warp prism for Classic charge on the way for Classic +2 armor for Classic combat shields for GuMiho widow mine for GuMiho 2 more rax for GuMiho 11:00  89 vs  84 drop in the natural of Classic is repelled warp prism and medivac pass each other on the map medivac drops marines HT dropped to feedback medivac drop of Gumiho is killed off by storm 12:00  93 vs  88 Classic starts a 3rd base Classic saves his warp prism vikings started for GuMiho +2 attack started for GuMiho another dropship is feedbacked to half health storm and photon overcharge defend a drop in the main of Classic 13:00  113 vs  104 GuMiho lands his 3rd base +2 armor started for GuMiho robo bay for Classic +1 attack for Classic armies engage in the middle of the map briefly storm drop in the natural of GuMiho whiffs with quick reactions storm drop in the main kills more scvs engagement in the middle of the map storm on GuMiho's widow mines GuMiho lifts his bio and flies away 14:00  124 vs  108 warp prism is killed off by vikings Colossus production started for Classic Extended thermal lance research for Classic Classic ahead by 18 workers 15:00  135 vs  122 ghost academy for GuMiho +1 vehicle weapons for GuMiho +3 armor for Classic 2nd forge for Classic 2 more gates for Classic +2 attack for Classic 16:00 159 vs 146 +3 attack for GuMiho concussive shells for GuMiho ghost production started for GuMiho dark shrine for Classic storm zones away army at Classic's 3rd small bio poke is defended in Classic's natural
17:00 176 vs 164 double drop at the 3rd of Classic is pushed away by 3 cannons and a storm 1 full medivac dies 4th base for Classic +3 armor for GuMiho engagement in the middle of the map GuMiho retreats engagement commences outside GuMiho's 3rd emp on the army of Classic GuMiho's army still gets stormed and rolled over GuMiho ggs!
Classic wins 2-0!
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Must be frustrating for Gumiho, wp by Classic
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What a clinic from classic.
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guess no Nestea award for Gumibear
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Poll: Recommend Classic vs Gumiho - game 2Excellent Game (5) 50% Good Game (2) 20% Meh Game (2) 20% Bad Game (1) 10% 10 total votes Your vote: Recommend Classic vs Gumiho - game 2 (Vote): Excellent Game (Vote): Good Game (Vote): Meh Game (Vote): Bad Game
Poll: Recommend Classic vs Gumiho - Game 3Bad Game (4) 50% Meh Game (2) 25% Good Game (2) 25% Excellent Game (0) 0% 8 total votes Your vote: Recommend Classic vs Gumiho - Game 3 (Vote): Excellent Game (Vote): Good Game (Vote): Meh Game (Vote): Bad Game
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DW guys, Gumi will get him in the final series
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Although it was awesome play by Classic somehow I feel sad for Gumiho
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gumiho that style is so annoying to play against when the protoss actually pays attention to his templars
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If Gumiho loses the next match it might be the last time we ever see him play.
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so sad when you are 99% sure that one player will win after 8-9 min
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On January 15 2014 19:03 gingerfluffmuff wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 19:00 KelsierSC wrote: I like the concept of using phoenix to deal with medivac drops, kind of cool Its cool, but this strat is for korean P only. Same in PvZ imo, penix scale well with multitasking.
Grubby played all his last PvTs in qualies using colo-phoenix.
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This has nothing to do with balance and stuffs. Someone simply got outskilled. Flawless series!
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PvP T____T sOs #believe <333
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It's not even like Gumiho played bad in game 2. Thats gotta be very frustrating for him
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I think That was just a bad matchup for Gumi,
His style relies on being able to out multitask his opponent but classic had great multi tasking and had every unit exactly where it needed to be.
As someone posted, it was a clinic
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On January 15 2014 19:17 Lazzi wrote: Although it was awesome play by Classic somehow I feel sad for Gumiho Classic is just on another level. Wasnt even close. If this is Gumihos level, then he may as well retire or join a foreign team.
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Don't think Khaldor gets how far behind was Gumiho after the 1 zealot/stalker/MSC pressure. ~~ 10 probe lead, tech already on the way, medivac pressure was going to fail 100% (storm already done >o>).
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Well sOs PvT is not that good so if Classic beats sOs and Gumiho beats Shine, he can maybe still advance
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On January 15 2014 19:17 ottosec wrote: 2 ez for chintoss Thats not chintoss silly :p
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On January 15 2014 19:15 Dodgin wrote: Glanced at Twitch chat, it seems like the Protoss hate is growing even larger lately. I understand that. Watching this is so frustrating, it is so h ard to engage a protoss (as Terran) these days. Not saying Toss is OP, with my skill I really cannot argue that (on my skillevel it may be, but doesn't say anything about pro play). From watching many TvPs, especially early and late (not mid) game, it seems(!) that toss is always so save vs terran. Sure there are countertactics, but maybe they are so much harder to pull of? Dunno. Parting vs Flash was frustrating. 1 going for greedy build, other not able to punish him in any way, into straightout losing the game. And its not Rollora the frustrated terran, it was the god of terrans, the one that gathered most victories in last SPL.
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On January 15 2014 19:17 Dodgin wrote: If Gumiho loses the next match it might be the last time we ever see him play.
lalalalalalalalalalalalala /o\
Edit: Then Empire signs him, SuNo and Hurricane and we'll all live happily ever after
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Never been a better time to pray for the lost and the lonely
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On January 15 2014 19:19 Rollora wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 19:15 Dodgin wrote: Glanced at Twitch chat, it seems like the Protoss hate is growing even larger lately. I understand that. Watching this is so frustrating, it is so h ard to engage a protoss (as Terran) these days. Not saying Toss is OP, with my skill I really cannot argue that (on my skillevel it may be, but doesn't say anything about pro play). From watching many TvPs, especially early and late (not mid) game, it seems(!) that toss is always so save vs terran. Sure there are countertactics, but maybe they are so much harder to pull of? Dunno. Parting vs Flash was frustrating. 1 going for greedy build, other not able to punish him in any way, into straightout losing the game. And its not Rollora the frustrated terran, it was the god of terrans, the one that gathered most victories in last SPL.
I don't think anyone can truly say they understand Twitch chat
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On January 15 2014 19:19 Swiipii wrote: Don't think Khaldor gets how far behind was Gumiho after the 1 zealot/stalker/MSC pressure. ~~ 10 probe lead, tech already on the way, medivac pressure was going to fail 100% (storm already done >o>).
Yeah, it just snowballed out of control from that lead. Classic was able to defend everywhere both due to his great multitasking as well as an army lead and tech lead. The early lead from Classic basically closed the mid game drop window for Gumiho unless Classic made a huge error.
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ugh, not even sad anymore, it was expected :/
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This song is inappropriate D:
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On January 15 2014 19:20 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 19:19 Rollora wrote:On January 15 2014 19:15 Dodgin wrote: Glanced at Twitch chat, it seems like the Protoss hate is growing even larger lately. I understand that. Watching this is so frustrating, it is so h ard to engage a protoss (as Terran) these days. Not saying Toss is OP, with my skill I really cannot argue that (on my skillevel it may be, but doesn't say anything about pro play). From watching many TvPs, especially early and late (not mid) game, it seems(!) that toss is always so save vs terran. Sure there are countertactics, but maybe they are so much harder to pull of? Dunno. Parting vs Flash was frustrating. 1 going for greedy build, other not able to punish him in any way, into straightout losing the game. And its not Rollora the frustrated terran, it was the god of terrans, the one that gathered most victories in last SPL. I don't think anyone can truly say they understand Twitch chat Avilo can.
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this is not safe for work
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On January 15 2014 19:17 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 19:03 gingerfluffmuff wrote:On January 15 2014 19:00 KelsierSC wrote: I like the concept of using phoenix to deal with medivac drops, kind of cool Its cool, but this strat is for korean P only. Same in PvZ imo, penix scale well with multitasking. Grubby played all his last PvTs in qualies using colo-phoenix.
colo phoenix is the least micro intensive P comp, however using 4+ pheonix correctly with your main army is like way harder
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There is no YouTube stream, right ?
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On January 15 2014 19:17 Dodgin wrote: If Gumiho loses the next match it might be the last time we ever see him play. don't say that DON'T! T T
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What if TheBest ends up going further than GuMiho this season
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So I get a feeling this won't be the last time we see a PvP this GSL
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On January 15 2014 19:24 Shellshock wrote: What if TheBest ends up going further than GuMiho this season Hell freezes? I dunno
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On January 15 2014 19:24 NovaMB wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 19:24 Shellshock wrote: What if TheBest ends up going further than GuMiho this season Hell freezes? I dunno His name is TheBest, so its ok i guess.
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On January 15 2014 19:21 gingerfluffmuff wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 19:20 KelsierSC wrote:On January 15 2014 19:19 Rollora wrote:On January 15 2014 19:15 Dodgin wrote: Glanced at Twitch chat, it seems like the Protoss hate is growing even larger lately. I understand that. Watching this is so frustrating, it is so h ard to engage a protoss (as Terran) these days. Not saying Toss is OP, with my skill I really cannot argue that (on my skillevel it may be, but doesn't say anything about pro play). From watching many TvPs, especially early and late (not mid) game, it seems(!) that toss is always so save vs terran. Sure there are countertactics, but maybe they are so much harder to pull of? Dunno. Parting vs Flash was frustrating. 1 going for greedy build, other not able to punish him in any way, into straightout losing the game. And its not Rollora the frustrated terran, it was the god of terrans, the one that gathered most victories in last SPL. I don't think anyone can truly say they understand Twitch chat Avilo can.
avilo is a man of the people!
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On January 15 2014 19:25 Shellshock wrote:0:00  sOs spawns in the top right  Classic spawns in the top left 1:00 pylon from sOs in the main of Classic gateway for sOs in Classic's main gateway for Classic 2nd gate for sOs
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What was the song when there were sOs and Classic on the screen with Habitation Station tag?
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BALLS OF STEELZORR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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well that didn't work haha
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Well at least it will be a short PvP series.
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classic proxy gate loss I guess :D
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On January 15 2014 19:26 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 19:25 Shellshock wrote:0:00  sOs spawns in the top right  Classic spawns in the top left 1:00 pylon from sOs in the main of Classic gateway for sOs in Classic's main gateway for Classic 2nd gate for sOs 2:00 gas for Classic Classic scouts the gates in his main zealots started for sOs cybernetics core for Classic zealot for Classic 2 more zealots for sOs
3:00 sOs starting to attack the first pylon zealot is out for Classic another zealot for Classic 1st pylon is killed Classic is supply blocked Classic loses 1 of his zealots MSC started for Classic sOs kills another pylon
4:00 MSC is out zealots fighting the probes 2 more zealots spawn for sOs cybernetics core for sOs sOs probing now sOs ahead 13 to 6 in workers Classic making another zealot probes just running around while MSC kills the zealots
5:00 stalker started for sOs 2nd stalker for sOs photon overcharge on the nexus of Classic first stalker is out for sOs another stalker for sOs 2nd stalker is out
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sOs saving all the cheeses for GSL. GSL > PL :D
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On January 15 2014 19:29 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 19:26 Shellshock wrote:On January 15 2014 19:25 Shellshock wrote:0:00  sOs spawns in the top right  Classic spawns in the top left 1:00 pylon from sOs in the main of Classic gateway for sOs in Classic's main gateway for Classic 2nd gate for sOs 2:00 gas for Classic Classic scouts the gates in his main zealots started for sOs cybernetics core for Classic zealot for Classic 2 more zealots for sOs 3:00 sOs starting to attack the first pylon zealot is out for Classic another zealot for Classic 1st pylon is killed Classic is supply blocked Classic loses 1 of his zealots MSC started for Classic sOs kills another pylon 4:00 MSC is out zealots fighting the probes 2 more zealots spawn for sOs cybernetics core for sOs sOs probing now sOs ahead 13 to 6 in workers Classic making another zealot probes just running around while MSC kills the zealots 5:00 stalker started for sOs 2nd stalker for sOs photon overcharge on the nexus of Classic first stalker is out for sOs another stalker for sOs 2nd stalker is out 6:00 MSC is killed Classic ggs
sOs wins game 1!
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On January 15 2014 19:29 imrusty269 wrote: sOs saving all the cheeses for GSL. GSL > PL :D He has no Maru to win games for him in GSL
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
Lovely sOs needs to do same stuff in Proleague :D Probably it will stop everyone from cheesing him.
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sOs is good with build selection I believe
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sOs going back to the ways that used to win him games.
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I wna see proxy Templar Archives
ONE TIME!!!!!
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On January 15 2014 19:30 Lazzi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 19:29 imrusty269 wrote: sOs saving all the cheeses for GSL. GSL > PL :D He has no Maru to win games for him in GSL  I would look around in your room, talking like that could provoke a few proxy gates.
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On January 15 2014 19:31 KelsierSC wrote: I wna see proxy Templar Archives
ONE TIME!!!!! Nothings beats proxy cyber core tho
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
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Time for some classic cheese
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Charlie Sheens House51471 Posts
LOL I'll raise your proxy 2 gate with a cannon rush
HAHAHAHA
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On January 15 2014 19:31 Shellshock wrote: cannon rush please
lol
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I thought the best response to scouted cannon rush was proxy stargate, and sOs cancels second gas? Am I wrong or is he?
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
Thank God, lol. sOs's scouting lvl in GSL is no way near SPL's one.
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Battle of the Cheese: To Brie or not to Brie
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On January 15 2014 19:33 Nebuchad wrote: I thought the best response to scouted cannon rush was proxy stargate, and sOs cancels second gas? Am I wrong or is he?
I don't know if that's the best response. It's a response, but you can do other things.
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On January 15 2014 19:33 Nebuchad wrote: I thought the best response to scouted cannon rush was proxy stargate, and sOs cancels second gas? Am I wrong or is he?
Well how i would deal with it is with Zealot run by to his base whilst mining 400 minerals to expand low ground xD
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This is what you call a classic play.
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lol today's games have been weird
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On January 15 2014 19:31 Shellshock wrote:0:00  sOs spawns in the top right  Classic spawns in the bottom left 1:40 gateway first for sOs forge for Classic
2:00 pylon on the low ground outside sOs' main by Classic sOs scouts the pylon double gas for sOs cannon for Classic 2nd gas for sOs is canceled Cybernetics core for sOs pylon on the high ground in sOs' main 2nd gas for sOs
3:00 zealot for sOs 2 cannons started in the main of sOs zealot is killing the first cannon out of range of the low ground cannon 1 canon is canceled another cannon started for Classic 3rd cannon for Classic stalker for sOs
4:00 stalker attacking the pylon on the high ground warp gate for sOs nexus in the natural for sOs gateway for Classic double gas for Classic 2nd pylon on the high ground for Classic cannon in the main mineral line of Classic sOs sends his zealot across the map first high ground pylon falls MSC is out for sOs
5:00 2nd talker out for sOs 2 more gates for sOs main nexus of sOs falls cybernetics core and another gate on the way for Classic another gate for Classic
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On January 15 2014 19:34 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 19:33 Nebuchad wrote: I thought the best response to scouted cannon rush was proxy stargate, and sOs cancels second gas? Am I wrong or is he? Well how i would deal with it is with Zealot run by to his base whilst mining 400 minerals to expand low ground xD
Yeah but the game isn't over right now, even if sOs is likely a bit ahead. Proxy stargate is supposed to straight up kill him
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opterown
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this is pretty fun series haha
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Weird that sOs spent time on killing the low ground pylon even as he was finishing warpgates. Might miss his chance to kill classic.
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I like how this is common enough on yeonsu that there's set and proper reactions to it
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Why didn't he kill the msc x.x
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didn't squirtle and san play a more hilarious version of this game where San actually relocated to Squirtle's third?
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Am I wrong or did SOS play that beautifully
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opterown
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i liked PvP low-eco series more than lategame pewpew anyway, nice series from sOs
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On January 15 2014 19:35 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 19:31 Shellshock wrote:0:00  sOs spawns in the top right  Classic spawns in the bottom left 1:40 gateway first for sOs forge for Classic 2:00 pylon on the low ground outside sOs' main by Classic sOs scouts the pylon double gas for sOs cannon for Classic 2nd gas for sOs is canceled Cybernetics core for sOs pylon on the high ground in sOs' main 2nd gas for sOs 3:00 zealot for sOs 2 cannons started in the main of sOs zealot is killing the first cannon out of range of the low ground cannon 1 canon is canceled another cannon started for Classic 3rd cannon for Classic stalker for sOs 4:00 stalker attacking the pylon on the high ground warp gate for sOs nexus in the natural for sOs gateway for Classic double gas for Classic 2nd pylon on the high ground for Classic cannon in the main mineral line of Classic sOs sends his zealot across the map first high ground pylon falls MSC is out for sOs 5:00 2nd talker out for sOs 2 more gates for sOs main nexus of sOs falls cybernetics core and another gate on the way for Classic another gate for Classic 6:00 MSC for Classic 2 stalkers for Classic double gas for sOs sOs killing off another pylon warp gate is done for sOs forward pylon going up for sOs 4 stalkers out for sOs probe count is equal 2 more stalkers for Classic warp gate half way done for Classic
7:00 S 34 vs C 33 stalkers move into the main of Classic sOs kills a pylon supply blocking classic stalkers engage in Classic's main probes are pulled by Classic sOs killing another pylon
8:00 S 42 vs C 33 again another pylon is killed photon overcharge on the main nexus makes sOs back off Robo for sOs sOs ahead 9 to 4 in the stalker count sOs ahead 22 to 21 in probes more stalkers being warped in for both players
9:00 S 48 vs C 39 stalkers engage after photon overcharge ends probes are pulled by Classic Classic loses 6 more probes MSC of Classic is killed stalkers are fighting probes are in the fight sOs wins the stalker fight
10:00 S 34 vs C 19 Classic not leaving yet but he has 1 stalker left sOs dancing his stalkers Classic ggs!
sOs wins 2-0 and advances to Code S!
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YEH BOYYYYYY!!!!!
BALLS OF STEEL
DANCE!
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So where is this sOs in Proleague?
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ez day for sOs
now he just needs to stop sucking in proleague
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GG sOs. Nice to see a win vs Cannon Rush.
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The guy can't keep it together in PL but just stomped his group. Wp sOs!
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sOs've got his priorities right! Code S that is
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
Seems like sOs is dying only to Terran cheese :D <33
And really, put Classic in TL shirt and it will be HerO.
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sOs so good at this type of games it's hilarious.
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Would it have helped if Classic continued the cannonrush to SoS buildings in the main?
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On January 15 2014 19:39 NovaMB wrote: So where is this sOs in Proleague?
kespa jail?
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one less proxy cannon and more cannon at home maybe would have been better
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On January 15 2014 19:39 NovaMB wrote: So where is this sOs in Proleague?
He's in KeSPA's jail and is only allowed to come out and play in individual league
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On January 15 2014 19:38 Pandain wrote: Am I wrong or did SOS play that beautifully
He did.
He read what Classic was doing and reacted with precision and completely used it against him.
sOs is a cannon rush master. He knows how to deal with one.
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On January 15 2014 19:39 Ketch wrote: Would it have helped if Classic continued the cannonrush to SoS buildings in the main?
With Stalkers out, it is pretty hard to push forward with cannons and pylons.
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On January 15 2014 19:38 Pandemona wrote:Poll: Recommend Winners Match - Game 2Excellent Game (17) 77% Good Game (4) 18% Meh Game (1) 5% Bad Game (0) 0% 22 total votes Your vote: Recommend Winners Match - Game 2 (Vote): Excellent Game (Vote): Good Game (Vote): Meh Game (Vote): Bad Game
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On January 15 2014 19:39 Dodgin wrote:kespa jail? sOs clearly doesnt care about proleague blah blah blah oh wait that argument is supposed to go the other way right?
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On January 15 2014 19:39 imrusty269 wrote: sOs so good at this type of games it's hilarious. i guess they train this too and all the implications. wp, really wp.
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After Red Bull Battlegrounds, sOs was thrown in Kespa Jail. He's only allowed to come out to play in GSL.
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Hrmmm they are interviewing SOS on the Korean stream. We get no translation?
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On January 15 2014 19:41 Heartland wrote: So there's a fake sOs? Fake Stork got bored and changed his persona to fake sOs
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On January 15 2014 19:41 Heartland wrote: So there's a fake sOs? Hydra trying his hands on P. (edit: man i just cant stop bashing hydra, its like a infinite source of handy insults, easy to grab and use)
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On January 15 2014 19:41 Dodgin wrote: After Red Bull Battlegrounds, sOs was thrown in Kespa Jail. He's only allowed to come out to play in GSL. So who is playing Proleague then?
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On January 15 2014 19:41 Shellshock wrote:Fake Stork got bored and changed his persona to fake sOs
So fake Stork is a changeling, able to take on different shapes? I mean, it would fit Kespa to have one of those around.
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On January 15 2014 19:42 NovaMB wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 19:41 Dodgin wrote: After Red Bull Battlegrounds, sOs was thrown in Kespa Jail. He's only allowed to come out to play in GSL. So who is playing Proleague then? Stork :o
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One day someone should make a wiki of all the memes and make-believe stories about progaming.
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On January 15 2014 19:42 NovaMB wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 19:41 Dodgin wrote: After Red Bull Battlegrounds, sOs was thrown in Kespa Jail. He's only allowed to come out to play in GSL. So who is playing Proleague then?
Stork is the double for all Protoss players
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Meanwhile, TY 4-0 PL and 0-4 in code B
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On January 15 2014 19:43 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 19:42 NovaMB wrote:On January 15 2014 19:41 Dodgin wrote: After Red Bull Battlegrounds, sOs was thrown in Kespa Jail. He's only allowed to come out to play in GSL. So who is playing Proleague then? Stork is the double for all Protoss players So thats why Proleague tosses are playing shit bad
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On January 15 2014 19:44 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 19:43 imrusty269 wrote:Meanwhile, TY 4-0 PL and 0-4 in code B  Yeah that made 0 sense to me 
0-4 to the Yongjwa, it makes sense.
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On January 15 2014 19:44 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 19:43 imrusty269 wrote:Meanwhile, TY 4-0 PL and 0-4 in code B  Yeah that made 0 sense to me  TvTroleague
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This TvZ needs to be good, my soul feels dirty so far
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On January 15 2014 19:44 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 19:43 imrusty269 wrote:Meanwhile, TY 4-0 PL and 0-4 in code B  Yeah that made 0 sense to me  Easy enough to play against some guys who are training partners of god who knows who and are good in that specific match up. Nerf koreans, except TY.
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On January 15 2014 19:46 KelsierSC wrote: This TvZ needs to be good, my soul feels dirty so far
you should try Starbow
just kidding
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On January 15 2014 19:47 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 19:46 KelsierSC wrote: This TvZ needs to be good, my soul feels dirty so far you should try Starbow just kidding
What is this sorcery. You can make text smaller :o
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Charlie Sheens House51471 Posts
Shine 2-0 Classic 2-0 If the trend continues
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On January 15 2014 19:49 Pandemona wrote: Shine 2-0 Classic 2-0 If the trend continues Sad but true, and most likely imo.
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Is GSL bound by the WCS (ie, ladder) map pool?
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How did Gumiho look vs Classic? Read the live report (thanks Shellbot!) but didn't get a grasp on the games from that.
GOGO GUMIBEAR! ♥
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On January 15 2014 19:38 Waxangel wrote: didn't squirtle and san play a more hilarious version of this game where San actually relocated to Squirtle's third? Dailymotion Cup ?
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Oh, this is the other Shine? He can drop out, then.
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On January 15 2014 19:51 DJHelium wrote: How did Gumiho look vs Classic? Read the live report (thanks Shellbot!) but didn't get a grasp on the games from that.
GOGO GUMIBEAR! ♥ he got rolled pretty hard
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OH SHIT THIS IS TSL SHINE!!!
FUCK YEH GO SHINE GO
I thought it was that other weird shine from PL last year
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On January 15 2014 19:51 PVJ wrote: Oh, this is the other Shine? He can drop out, then.
On January 15 2014 19:52 KelsierSC wrote: OH SHIT THIS IS TSL SHINE!!!
FUCK YEH GO SHINE GO
I thought it was that other weird shine from PL last year
LOL
I now regret writing "drop out" politely instead of a more well rounded, caps locked "DIE".
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On January 15 2014 19:51 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 19:51 DJHelium wrote: How did Gumiho look vs Classic? Read the live report (thanks Shellbot!) but didn't get a grasp on the games from that.
GOGO GUMIBEAR! ♥ he got rolled pretty hard
Hmpf he will have revenge!
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On January 15 2014 19:50 Shellshock wrote:0:00  Shine spawns in the top right  GuMiho spawns in the top left 1:40 rax first for GuMiho gas for GuMiho
2:00 hatch first for Shine gas for Shine pool for Shine reaper for GuMiho
3:00 CC on the low ground for GuMiho Factory for GuMiho
4:00 ling speed for Shine lings for Shine reaper arrives at the zerg main reactor for GuMiho reaper is chased out by lings
5:00 reactored hellion production started for GuMiho tech lab for GuMiho starport for GuMiho overlord scouts the starport and tech lab
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On January 15 2014 19:52 KelsierSC wrote: OH SHIT THIS IS TSL SHINE!!!
FUCK YEH GO SHINE GO
I thought it was that other weird shine from PL last year
ESF versions are always better; Hero and herO, Shine and Shine etc
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How do you lose a Hellion there
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lol, now thats a good beginning...
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On January 15 2014 19:54 Muffloe wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 19:52 KelsierSC wrote: OH SHIT THIS IS TSL SHINE!!!
FUCK YEH GO SHINE GO
I thought it was that other weird shine from PL last year
ESF versions are always better; Hero and herO, Shine and Shine etc 
herO is cooler than HerO though
imagine if herO was on TL instead, he would be the most loved player in the world.
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He always plays mech.
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On January 15 2014 19:54 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 19:50 Shellshock wrote:0:00  Shine spawns in the top right  GuMiho spawns in the top left 1:40 rax first for GuMiho gas for GuMiho 2:00 hatch first for Shine gas for Shine pool for Shine reaper for GuMiho 3:00 CC on the low ground for GuMiho Factory for GuMiho 4:00 ling speed for Shine lings for Shine reaper arrives at the zerg main reactor for GuMiho reaper is chased out by lings 5:00 reactored hellion production started for GuMiho tech lab for GuMiho starport for GuMiho overlord scouts the starport and tech lab 6:00 ling pressure in the natural of GuMiho kills some workers and a hellion banshee for GuMiho 3rd base for Shine
7:00 65 vs 51 viking out killing overlords 3rd CC for GuMiho at the gold base 3 more gas for GuMiho
8:00 73 vs 60 double evo for Shine spores started for Shine Lair for Shine banshee and hellions at the 3rd of Shine hellions kill a bunch of lings and escape
9:00 78 vs 76 2 more factories for GuMiho double armory for GuMiho 1-1 range upgrades for Shine Shine scouts the gold base blue flame research started for GuMiho
10:00 overlord speed for Shine roach warren for Shine infestation pit for Shine hellions at the 3rd of Shine 1-1 vehicle upgrades for Gumiho 4th base for Shine roaches started for Shine roach speed for Shine
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Holy shit, not often I see my favorite to use TvZ mech style at the professional level.
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Oh please not one of these games
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and...... Swarm Hosts. That shuts down Hellion/Thor hard.
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shine not even sending a few lings to counterattack? eehhhhh
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Yesss so good to have mech back in the meta
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On January 15 2014 19:58 Heartland wrote: Oh please not one of these games
maybe he will do the Mvp timing
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On January 15 2014 19:55 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 19:54 Muffloe wrote:On January 15 2014 19:52 KelsierSC wrote: OH SHIT THIS IS TSL SHINE!!!
FUCK YEH GO SHINE GO
I thought it was that other weird shine from PL last year
ESF versions are always better; Hero and herO, Shine and Shine etc  herO is cooler than HerO though imagine if herO was on TL instead, he would be the most loved player in the world. Maybe he could capitalize the H and we could pretend that nothing'd changed xD
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On January 15 2014 19:57 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 19:54 Shellshock wrote:On January 15 2014 19:50 Shellshock wrote:0:00  Shine spawns in the top right  GuMiho spawns in the top left 1:40 rax first for GuMiho gas for GuMiho 2:00 hatch first for Shine gas for Shine pool for Shine reaper for GuMiho 3:00 CC on the low ground for GuMiho Factory for GuMiho 4:00 ling speed for Shine lings for Shine reaper arrives at the zerg main reactor for GuMiho reaper is chased out by lings 5:00 reactored hellion production started for GuMiho tech lab for GuMiho starport for GuMiho overlord scouts the starport and tech lab 6:00 ling pressure in the natural of GuMiho kills some workers and a hellion banshee for GuMiho 3rd base for Shine 7:00  65 vs  51 viking out killing overlords 3rd CC for GuMiho at the gold base 3 more gas for GuMiho 8:00  73 vs  60 double evo for Shine spores started for Shine Lair for Shine banshee and hellions at the 3rd of Shine hellions kill a bunch of lings and escape 9:00  78 vs  76 2 more factories for GuMiho double armory for GuMiho 1-1 range upgrades for Shine Shine scouts the gold base blue flame research started for GuMiho 10:00 overlord speed for Shine roach warren for Shine infestation pit for Shine hellions at the 3rd of Shine 1-1 vehicle upgrades for Gumiho 4th base for Shine roaches started for Shine roach speed for Shine 11:00 93 vs 104 double thor for GuMiho enduring locusts for Shine missile turrets for GuMiho 2nd starport for GuMiho swarm hosts started for Shine tanks started for GuMiho
12:00 118 vs 116 hellions cleaning up some creep tumors +2 carapace for Shine banshee production restarted for GUMiho double viking production in the other starport cloak research for GuMiho +2 range attack for Shine 4th CC for GuMiho
13:00 133 vs 133 burrow research for Shine another CC for GuMiho locusts queens and roaches kill some hellions 2-2 started for GuMiho
14:00 139 vs 127 locust waves heading towards GuMiho's bases another CC for GuMiho Hive for Shine Spire for Shine macro hatch for Shine 2 more factories for GuMiho
15:00 159 vs 147 static defense going up for Shine at his bases 3 more CCs for GuMiho hellions are trying to find an opening to harass but are chased by roaches and queens hellions get into the natural of Shine and kill some drones Shine is still at 72 drones
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wow this unit destroys the viewing experience of TWO matchups. gj
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On January 15 2014 20:01 Arceus wrote: wow this unit destroys the viewing experience of TWO matchups. gj ZvZ is also awful with SHs. DIMAGA vs RorO during WCS Global Final in Korea was a boring game...
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On January 15 2014 20:01 Arceus wrote: wow this unit destroys the viewing experience of TWO matchups. gj
Mech is what ruins the viewing experience, forcing out games like this
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On January 15 2014 20:01 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 19:57 Shellshock wrote:On January 15 2014 19:54 Shellshock wrote:On January 15 2014 19:50 Shellshock wrote:0:00  Shine spawns in the top right  GuMiho spawns in the top left 1:40 rax first for GuMiho gas for GuMiho 2:00 hatch first for Shine gas for Shine pool for Shine reaper for GuMiho 3:00 CC on the low ground for GuMiho Factory for GuMiho 4:00 ling speed for Shine lings for Shine reaper arrives at the zerg main reactor for GuMiho reaper is chased out by lings 5:00 reactored hellion production started for GuMiho tech lab for GuMiho starport for GuMiho overlord scouts the starport and tech lab 6:00 ling pressure in the natural of GuMiho kills some workers and a hellion banshee for GuMiho 3rd base for Shine 7:00  65 vs  51 viking out killing overlords 3rd CC for GuMiho at the gold base 3 more gas for GuMiho 8:00  73 vs  60 double evo for Shine spores started for Shine Lair for Shine banshee and hellions at the 3rd of Shine hellions kill a bunch of lings and escape 9:00  78 vs  76 2 more factories for GuMiho double armory for GuMiho 1-1 range upgrades for Shine Shine scouts the gold base blue flame research started for GuMiho 10:00 overlord speed for Shine roach warren for Shine infestation pit for Shine hellions at the 3rd of Shine 1-1 vehicle upgrades for Gumiho 4th base for Shine roaches started for Shine roach speed for Shine 11:00  93 vs  104 double thor for GuMiho enduring locusts for Shine missile turrets for GuMiho 2nd starport for GuMiho swarm hosts started for Shine tanks started for GuMiho 12:00  118 vs  116 hellions cleaning up some creep tumors +2 carapace for Shine banshee production restarted for GUMiho double viking production in the other starport cloak research for GuMiho +2 range attack for Shine 4th CC for GuMiho 13:00  133 vs  133 burrow research for Shine another CC for GuMiho locusts queens and roaches kill some hellions 2-2 started for GuMiho 14:00  139 vs  127 locust waves heading towards GuMiho's bases another CC for GuMiho Hive for Shine Spire for Shine macro hatch for Shine 2 more factories for GuMiho 15:00  159 vs  147 static defense going up for Shine at his bases 3 more CCs for GuMiho hellions are trying to find an opening to harass but are chased by roaches and queens hellions get into the natural of Shine and kill some drones Shine is still at 72 drones 16:00 169 vs 145 PF morphing at GuMiho's 4th 4 banshees heading to the 4th of Shine Greater spire for Shine 2nd spire for Shine +3 range attack for Shine
17:00 181 vs 166 queen and spores defending the banshees at Shine's 4th 3-3 started for GuMiho corruptors for Shine infestor for Shine +1 air armor for Shine
18:00 192 vs 178 vipers out for Shine 13 vikings for GuMiho gold base for Shine vipers pull 1 tank into locusts the thor is killed by locusts
19:00 199 vs 190 +1 air attack for Shine PDD goes down blinding cloud on some tanks of GuMiho Shine has to retreat Brood lords coming out for Shine roach runby to the 4th of GuMiho hellions at the gold base of Shine GuMiho cleans up the roaches at his 4th
20:00 181 vs 198 hellions of GuMiho are all killed off at the gold base more infestors and brood lords banshees at the gold base of Shine corruptors and queens cahse the banshees away hellions at the 4th of Shine +2 air armor for Shine
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On January 15 2014 19:58 Heartland wrote: Oh please not one of these games thank david kim for it
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Why does he still have one raven only with his bank? He could've made more of them way earlier.
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opterown
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Huuuuuuuuuuuuuge fungal! :o
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On January 15 2014 20:04 Zheryn wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 20:01 Arceus wrote: wow this unit destroys the viewing experience of TWO matchups. gj Mech is what ruins the viewing experience, forcing out games like this dat blasphemy. It's up there with carrier in the pure awesomeness department
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Suprised not to see Gumiho transform his hellions into hellbats for those mass hellion run-bys. Would kill the hatchery pretty quickly. It's something he used vs DRG on Akilon.
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<3 Gumiho, he's like a fun factory.
Killer map too
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On January 15 2014 20:07 Arceus wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 20:04 Zheryn wrote:On January 15 2014 20:01 Arceus wrote: wow this unit destroys the viewing experience of TWO matchups. gj Mech is what ruins the viewing experience, forcing out games like this dat blasphemy. It's up there with carrier in the pure awesomeness department
if it doesn't involve turtling it's ok. when it does it's worse than sh.
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On January 15 2014 20:05 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 20:01 Shellshock wrote:On January 15 2014 19:57 Shellshock wrote:On January 15 2014 19:54 Shellshock wrote:On January 15 2014 19:50 Shellshock wrote:0:00  Shine spawns in the top right  GuMiho spawns in the top left 1:40 rax first for GuMiho gas for GuMiho 2:00 hatch first for Shine gas for Shine pool for Shine reaper for GuMiho 3:00 CC on the low ground for GuMiho Factory for GuMiho 4:00 ling speed for Shine lings for Shine reaper arrives at the zerg main reactor for GuMiho reaper is chased out by lings 5:00 reactored hellion production started for GuMiho tech lab for GuMiho starport for GuMiho overlord scouts the starport and tech lab 6:00 ling pressure in the natural of GuMiho kills some workers and a hellion banshee for GuMiho 3rd base for Shine 7:00  65 vs  51 viking out killing overlords 3rd CC for GuMiho at the gold base 3 more gas for GuMiho 8:00  73 vs  60 double evo for Shine spores started for Shine Lair for Shine banshee and hellions at the 3rd of Shine hellions kill a bunch of lings and escape 9:00  78 vs  76 2 more factories for GuMiho double armory for GuMiho 1-1 range upgrades for Shine Shine scouts the gold base blue flame research started for GuMiho 10:00 overlord speed for Shine roach warren for Shine infestation pit for Shine hellions at the 3rd of Shine 1-1 vehicle upgrades for Gumiho 4th base for Shine roaches started for Shine roach speed for Shine 11:00  93 vs  104 double thor for GuMiho enduring locusts for Shine missile turrets for GuMiho 2nd starport for GuMiho swarm hosts started for Shine tanks started for GuMiho 12:00  118 vs  116 hellions cleaning up some creep tumors +2 carapace for Shine banshee production restarted for GUMiho double viking production in the other starport cloak research for GuMiho +2 range attack for Shine 4th CC for GuMiho 13:00  133 vs  133 burrow research for Shine another CC for GuMiho locusts queens and roaches kill some hellions 2-2 started for GuMiho 14:00  139 vs  127 locust waves heading towards GuMiho's bases another CC for GuMiho Hive for Shine Spire for Shine macro hatch for Shine 2 more factories for GuMiho 15:00  159 vs  147 static defense going up for Shine at his bases 3 more CCs for GuMiho hellions are trying to find an opening to harass but are chased by roaches and queens hellions get into the natural of Shine and kill some drones Shine is still at 72 drones 16:00  169 vs  145 PF morphing at GuMiho's 4th 4 banshees heading to the 4th of Shine Greater spire for Shine 2nd spire for Shine +3 range attack for Shine 17:00  181 vs  166 queen and spores defending the banshees at Shine's 4th 3-3 started for GuMiho corruptors for Shine infestor for Shine +1 air armor for Shine 18:00  192 vs  178 vipers out for Shine 13 vikings for GuMiho gold base for Shine vipers pull 1 tank into locusts the thor is killed by locusts 19:00  199 vs  190 +1 air attack for Shine PDD goes down blinding cloud on some tanks of GuMiho Shine has to retreat Brood lords coming out for Shine roach runby to the 4th of GuMiho hellions at the gold base of Shine GuMiho cleans up the roaches at his 4th 20:00  181 vs  198 hellions of GuMiho are all killed off at the gold base more infestors and brood lords banshees at the gold base of Shine corruptors and queens cahse the banshees away hellions at the 4th of Shine +2 air armor for Shine 21:00 194 vs 194 fungal on the hellions and they are cleaned up PF morphing at the 5th of GuMiho triple thor production for GuMiho banshees kill the gold base of Shine
22:00 198 vs 200 +3 carapace for Shine +2 air attack for Shine hi-sec auto tracking for GuMiho 2 more starports for GuMiho some swarm hosts are killed by tanks
23:00 200 vs 197 hellions at the 4th of Shine fungal on all of the vikings of Shine Shine is 1 fungal short of killing almost every viking corruptor brood lord engaging the army of GuMiho Shine flies all his corruptors over thors all the corruptors and brood lords are killed
24:00 136 vs 179 35 roaches for Shine corvid reactor for GuMiho
25:00 196 vs 199 GuMiho moving out on the map swarm hosts harassing GuMiho's 5th GuMiho pushing the 4th of Shine
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thank you shine for throwing this
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GuMiho is not even transitioning into the actual good part of mech, skyterran, still wins pretty easily tho. Mech is really freaking lame to watch.
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Yes gumiho, show me what absolute defense means!
Oh snap
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best thing to do vs mech is just get drops, max on roaches and que up some epic charging music.
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I feel the lack of creep corridor to the 4th was a big mistake. Having only 1 attack path with your hosts is kinda meh.
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On January 15 2014 20:10 KelsierSC wrote: best thing to do vs mech is just get drops, max on roaches and que up some epic charging music.
hellbat just destroy dropped roaches now.
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How would it be panicking if you add a "ton of production facilities" when you got a lot of money?
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On January 15 2014 20:10 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 20:10 KelsierSC wrote: best thing to do vs mech is just get drops, max on roaches and que up some epic charging music.
hellbat just destroy dropped roaches now.
Especially after a banshee opening for support DPS.
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On January 15 2014 20:10 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 20:10 KelsierSC wrote: best thing to do vs mech is just get drops, max on roaches and que up some epic charging music.
hellbat just destroy dropped roaches now.
I didn't say it wasn't a gamble
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On January 15 2014 20:11 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 20:10 sAsImre wrote:On January 15 2014 20:10 KelsierSC wrote: best thing to do vs mech is just get drops, max on roaches and que up some epic charging music.
hellbat just destroy dropped roaches now. I didn't say it wasn't a gamble
well it's there with DRG 6pool in terms of chance of success. Aka pretty close to none :D
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On January 15 2014 20:08 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 20:05 Shellshock wrote:On January 15 2014 20:01 Shellshock wrote:On January 15 2014 19:57 Shellshock wrote:On January 15 2014 19:54 Shellshock wrote:On January 15 2014 19:50 Shellshock wrote:0:00  Shine spawns in the top right  GuMiho spawns in the top left 1:40 rax first for GuMiho gas for GuMiho 2:00 hatch first for Shine gas for Shine pool for Shine reaper for GuMiho 3:00 CC on the low ground for GuMiho Factory for GuMiho 4:00 ling speed for Shine lings for Shine reaper arrives at the zerg main reactor for GuMiho reaper is chased out by lings 5:00 reactored hellion production started for GuMiho tech lab for GuMiho starport for GuMiho overlord scouts the starport and tech lab 6:00 ling pressure in the natural of GuMiho kills some workers and a hellion banshee for GuMiho 3rd base for Shine 7:00  65 vs  51 viking out killing overlords 3rd CC for GuMiho at the gold base 3 more gas for GuMiho 8:00  73 vs  60 double evo for Shine spores started for Shine Lair for Shine banshee and hellions at the 3rd of Shine hellions kill a bunch of lings and escape 9:00  78 vs  76 2 more factories for GuMiho double armory for GuMiho 1-1 range upgrades for Shine Shine scouts the gold base blue flame research started for GuMiho 10:00 overlord speed for Shine roach warren for Shine infestation pit for Shine hellions at the 3rd of Shine 1-1 vehicle upgrades for Gumiho 4th base for Shine roaches started for Shine roach speed for Shine 11:00  93 vs  104 double thor for GuMiho enduring locusts for Shine missile turrets for GuMiho 2nd starport for GuMiho swarm hosts started for Shine tanks started for GuMiho 12:00  118 vs  116 hellions cleaning up some creep tumors +2 carapace for Shine banshee production restarted for GUMiho double viking production in the other starport cloak research for GuMiho +2 range attack for Shine 4th CC for GuMiho 13:00  133 vs  133 burrow research for Shine another CC for GuMiho locusts queens and roaches kill some hellions 2-2 started for GuMiho 14:00  139 vs  127 locust waves heading towards GuMiho's bases another CC for GuMiho Hive for Shine Spire for Shine macro hatch for Shine 2 more factories for GuMiho 15:00  159 vs  147 static defense going up for Shine at his bases 3 more CCs for GuMiho hellions are trying to find an opening to harass but are chased by roaches and queens hellions get into the natural of Shine and kill some drones Shine is still at 72 drones 16:00  169 vs  145 PF morphing at GuMiho's 4th 4 banshees heading to the 4th of Shine Greater spire for Shine 2nd spire for Shine +3 range attack for Shine 17:00  181 vs  166 queen and spores defending the banshees at Shine's 4th 3-3 started for GuMiho corruptors for Shine infestor for Shine +1 air armor for Shine 18:00  192 vs  178 vipers out for Shine 13 vikings for GuMiho gold base for Shine vipers pull 1 tank into locusts the thor is killed by locusts 19:00  199 vs  190 +1 air attack for Shine PDD goes down blinding cloud on some tanks of GuMiho Shine has to retreat Brood lords coming out for Shine roach runby to the 4th of GuMiho hellions at the gold base of Shine GuMiho cleans up the roaches at his 4th 20:00  181 vs  198 hellions of GuMiho are all killed off at the gold base more infestors and brood lords banshees at the gold base of Shine corruptors and queens cahse the banshees away hellions at the 4th of Shine +2 air armor for Shine 21:00  194 vs  194 fungal on the hellions and they are cleaned up PF morphing at the 5th of GuMiho triple thor production for GuMiho banshees kill the gold base of Shine 22:00  198 vs  200 +3 carapace for Shine +2 air attack for Shine hi-sec auto tracking for GuMiho 2 more starports for GuMiho some swarm hosts are killed by tanks 23:00  200 vs  197 hellions at the 4th of Shine fungal on all of the vikings of Shine Shine is 1 fungal short of killing almost every viking corruptor brood lord engaging the army of GuMiho Shine flies all his corruptors over thors all the corruptors and brood lords are killed 24:00  136 vs  179 35 roaches for Shine corvid reactor for GuMiho 25:00  196 vs  199 GuMiho moving out on the map swarm hosts harassing GuMiho's 5th GuMiho pushing the 4th of Shine 26:00 197 vs 189 more banshees and ravens for GuMiho roach counter attack from Shine fusion core finishes for GuMiho 4th of Shine is cleaned out Roaches in the main of GuMiho small mech army attacking the 3rd of Shine roaches killing GuMiho's factories banshees spawning to fight the roaches brood lord is holding off the mech attack
27:00 157 vs 144 3rd of Shine is killed lings being added in for Shine but they have no attack upgrade
28:00 144 vs 142 BCs started for GuMiho Weapon refit for GuMiho 4th and 3rd rebuilding for Shine banshees chased away from the gold base
29:00 131 vs 131 swarm hosts still harassing GuMiho's 5th GuMiho going up to 4 BCs
30:00 167 vs 169 siege tanks sieging up Shine's gold base air army of GuMiho move to t he gold base fungal on the vikings PDD goes down from GuMiho 5th of GuMiho is killed by roaches hellions at the 4th of Shine but the drones burrow BCs and tanks kill the gold base of Shine
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Not really sure what Gumiho is doing. Looks like he has never played mech before, is he really going to lose this...?
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was he attacking his orbital with the BCs lol
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The sky will be cluded by sky terran! Buahahahaha!
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On January 15 2014 20:12 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 20:11 KelsierSC wrote:On January 15 2014 20:10 sAsImre wrote:On January 15 2014 20:10 KelsierSC wrote: best thing to do vs mech is just get drops, max on roaches and que up some epic charging music.
hellbat just destroy dropped roaches now. I didn't say it wasn't a gamble well it's there with DRG 6pool in terms of chance of success. Aka pretty close to none :D
I don't think it's that extreme. If you can find the weaknesses it can do pretty well
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On January 15 2014 20:13 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 20:12 sAsImre wrote:On January 15 2014 20:11 KelsierSC wrote:On January 15 2014 20:10 sAsImre wrote:On January 15 2014 20:10 KelsierSC wrote: best thing to do vs mech is just get drops, max on roaches and que up some epic charging music.
hellbat just destroy dropped roaches now. I didn't say it wasn't a gamble well it's there with DRG 6pool in terms of chance of success. Aka pretty close to none :D I don't think it's that extreme. If you can find the weaknesses it can do pretty well
if your opponent doesn't go for banshee yes but if he gets banshees it was already bad in WoL. Now you get hellbats and 1/1 banshees to deal with it.
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On January 15 2014 20:12 opterown wrote: was he attacking his orbital with the BCs lol He is channelling his inner MMA
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On January 15 2014 20:14 wozzot wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 20:12 opterown wrote: was he attacking his orbital with the BCs lol He is channelling his inner MMA Incoming Idra gg
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On January 15 2014 20:14 wozzot wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 20:12 opterown wrote: was he attacking his orbital with the BCs lol He is channelling his inner MMA
That only works against Idra though.
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On January 15 2014 20:12 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 20:08 Shellshock wrote:On January 15 2014 20:05 Shellshock wrote:On January 15 2014 20:01 Shellshock wrote:On January 15 2014 19:57 Shellshock wrote:On January 15 2014 19:54 Shellshock wrote:On January 15 2014 19:50 Shellshock wrote:0:00  Shine spawns in the top right  GuMiho spawns in the top left 1:40 rax first for GuMiho gas for GuMiho 2:00 hatch first for Shine gas for Shine pool for Shine reaper for GuMiho 3:00 CC on the low ground for GuMiho Factory for GuMiho 4:00 ling speed for Shine lings for Shine reaper arrives at the zerg main reactor for GuMiho reaper is chased out by lings 5:00 reactored hellion production started for GuMiho tech lab for GuMiho starport for GuMiho overlord scouts the starport and tech lab 6:00 ling pressure in the natural of GuMiho kills some workers and a hellion banshee for GuMiho 3rd base for Shine 7:00  65 vs  51 viking out killing overlords 3rd CC for GuMiho at the gold base 3 more gas for GuMiho 8:00  73 vs  60 double evo for Shine spores started for Shine Lair for Shine banshee and hellions at the 3rd of Shine hellions kill a bunch of lings and escape 9:00  78 vs  76 2 more factories for GuMiho double armory for GuMiho 1-1 range upgrades for Shine Shine scouts the gold base blue flame research started for GuMiho 10:00 overlord speed for Shine roach warren for Shine infestation pit for Shine hellions at the 3rd of Shine 1-1 vehicle upgrades for Gumiho 4th base for Shine roaches started for Shine roach speed for Shine 11:00  93 vs  104 double thor for GuMiho enduring locusts for Shine missile turrets for GuMiho 2nd starport for GuMiho swarm hosts started for Shine tanks started for GuMiho 12:00  118 vs  116 hellions cleaning up some creep tumors +2 carapace for Shine banshee production restarted for GUMiho double viking production in the other starport cloak research for GuMiho +2 range attack for Shine 4th CC for GuMiho 13:00  133 vs  133 burrow research for Shine another CC for GuMiho locusts queens and roaches kill some hellions 2-2 started for GuMiho 14:00  139 vs  127 locust waves heading towards GuMiho's bases another CC for GuMiho Hive for Shine Spire for Shine macro hatch for Shine 2 more factories for GuMiho 15:00  159 vs  147 static defense going up for Shine at his bases 3 more CCs for GuMiho hellions are trying to find an opening to harass but are chased by roaches and queens hellions get into the natural of Shine and kill some drones Shine is still at 72 drones 16:00  169 vs  145 PF morphing at GuMiho's 4th 4 banshees heading to the 4th of Shine Greater spire for Shine 2nd spire for Shine +3 range attack for Shine 17:00  181 vs  166 queen and spores defending the banshees at Shine's 4th 3-3 started for GuMiho corruptors for Shine infestor for Shine +1 air armor for Shine 18:00  192 vs  178 vipers out for Shine 13 vikings for GuMiho gold base for Shine vipers pull 1 tank into locusts the thor is killed by locusts 19:00  199 vs  190 +1 air attack for Shine PDD goes down blinding cloud on some tanks of GuMiho Shine has to retreat Brood lords coming out for Shine roach runby to the 4th of GuMiho hellions at the gold base of Shine GuMiho cleans up the roaches at his 4th 20:00  181 vs  198 hellions of GuMiho are all killed off at the gold base more infestors and brood lords banshees at the gold base of Shine corruptors and queens cahse the banshees away hellions at the 4th of Shine +2 air armor for Shine 21:00  194 vs  194 fungal on the hellions and they are cleaned up PF morphing at the 5th of GuMiho triple thor production for GuMiho banshees kill the gold base of Shine 22:00  198 vs  200 +3 carapace for Shine +2 air attack for Shine hi-sec auto tracking for GuMiho 2 more starports for GuMiho some swarm hosts are killed by tanks 23:00  200 vs  197 hellions at the 4th of Shine fungal on all of the vikings of Shine Shine is 1 fungal short of killing almost every viking corruptor brood lord engaging the army of GuMiho Shine flies all his corruptors over thors all the corruptors and brood lords are killed 24:00  136 vs  179 35 roaches for Shine corvid reactor for GuMiho 25:00  196 vs  199 GuMiho moving out on the map swarm hosts harassing GuMiho's 5th GuMiho pushing the 4th of Shine 26:00  197 vs  189 more banshees and ravens for GuMiho roach counter attack from Shine fusion core finishes for GuMiho 4th of Shine is cleaned out Roaches in the main of GuMiho small mech army attacking the 3rd of Shine roaches killing GuMiho's factories banshees spawning to fight the roaches brood lord is holding off the mech attack 27:00  157 vs  144 3rd of Shine is killed lings being added in for Shine but they have no attack upgrade 28:00  144 vs  142 BCs started for GuMiho Weapon refit for GuMiho 4th and 3rd rebuilding for Shine banshees chased away from the gold base 29:00  131 vs  131 swarm hosts still harassing GuMiho's 5th GuMiho going up to 4 BCs 30:00  167 vs  169 siege tanks sieging up Shine's gold base air army of GuMiho move to t he gold base fungal on the vikings PDD goes down from GuMiho 5th of GuMiho is killed by roaches hellions at the 4th of Shine but the drones burrow BCs and tanks kill the gold base of Shine 31:00 190 vs 162 GuMiho brely saves his 4th base with 2 BCs and repair on the PF 2 more BCs for Gumiho mor evikings for GuMiho corruptors for Shine
32:00 185 vs 174 GuMiho cleans up the swarm hosts at his former 5th roaches of Shine are chased away Shine trying to take a 5th base at the bottom of the map more ravens for GuMiho 5th base of Shine is killed spores for Shine
33:00 162 vs 171 GuMiho floating another CC down to his former 5th tanks kill the 4th of Shine roach attack at the 4th of GuMiho is repelled by tanks and BCs GuMiho attacking the 3rd of Shine with his main army
34:00 142 vs 172 seeker missiles on the corruptors GuMiho cleans up all of Shine's army vikings are killing overlords Shine distance mining from the gold minerals Shine ggs!
GuMiho wins game 1!
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"The terran army is better than your army, shine."
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Poll: Recommend Loser Match - Game 1Good Game (10) 45% Excellent Game (6) 27% Meh Game (4) 18% Bad Game (2) 9% 22 total votes Your vote: Recommend Loser Match - Game 1 (Vote): Excellent Game (Vote): Good Game (Vote): Meh Game (Vote): Bad Game
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Starcraft 2 is too volatile they said Starcraft 2 is over too soon they said
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On January 15 2014 20:14 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 20:13 KelsierSC wrote:On January 15 2014 20:12 sAsImre wrote:On January 15 2014 20:11 KelsierSC wrote:On January 15 2014 20:10 sAsImre wrote:On January 15 2014 20:10 KelsierSC wrote: best thing to do vs mech is just get drops, max on roaches and que up some epic charging music.
hellbat just destroy dropped roaches now. I didn't say it wasn't a gamble well it's there with DRG 6pool in terms of chance of success. Aka pretty close to none :D I don't think it's that extreme. If you can find the weaknesses it can do pretty well if your opponent doesn't go for banshee yes but if he gets banshees it was already bad in WoL. Now you get hellbats and 1/1 banshees to deal with it.
I never said to do it against lots of banshees
Also Hellbats are really slow you can do lots of multi pronged aggression before they can do anything
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wp Gumiho! One more and the you can have your revenge on classic
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Mech is terrible to watch unless Mvp is playing.
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On January 15 2014 20:15 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 20:14 sAsImre wrote:On January 15 2014 20:13 KelsierSC wrote:On January 15 2014 20:12 sAsImre wrote:On January 15 2014 20:11 KelsierSC wrote:On January 15 2014 20:10 sAsImre wrote:On January 15 2014 20:10 KelsierSC wrote: best thing to do vs mech is just get drops, max on roaches and que up some epic charging music.
hellbat just destroy dropped roaches now. I didn't say it wasn't a gamble well it's there with DRG 6pool in terms of chance of success. Aka pretty close to none :D I don't think it's that extreme. If you can find the weaknesses it can do pretty well if your opponent doesn't go for banshee yes but if he gets banshees it was already bad in WoL. Now you get hellbats and 1/1 banshees to deal with it. I never said to do it against lots of banshees
well everyone gets banshees nowadays since they're uber good if they can keep up on upgrades
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Alterzim is not a great map for Zerg lol
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On January 15 2014 20:15 Shellshock wrote:Poll: Recommend Loser Match - Game 1Good Game (10) 45% Excellent Game (6) 27% Meh Game (4) 18% Bad Game (2) 9% 22 total votes Your vote: Recommend Loser Match - Game 1 (Vote): Excellent Game (Vote): Good Game (Vote): Meh Game (Vote): Bad Game
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On January 15 2014 20:15 Doublemint wrote: "The terran army is better than your army, shine."
Tillerman™
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I wonder if Gumiho refused to join LYGF.
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On January 15 2014 20:16 Tsubbi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 20:15 Doublemint wrote: "The terran army is better than your army, shine." Tillerman™
Good ol' times
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Question : Is Khaldor right about BCs being buffed back in HotS? Liquipedia says the contrary...
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On January 15 2014 20:16 Tsubbi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 20:15 Doublemint wrote: "The terran army is better than your army, shine." Tillerman™ "Roaches cant shoot up" - Captain Obvious
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I still find it hilarious how the latest balance blog mentioned buffing mech air
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On January 15 2014 20:16 fezvez wrote: Question : Is Khaldor right about BCs being buffed back in HotS? Liquipedia says the contrary...
I didn't even say that lol
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On January 15 2014 20:16 NovaMB wrote: Alterzim is not a great map for Zerg lol
mutas are pretty damn strong on it. And overall mobility of zerg can be used to great effect
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On January 15 2014 20:16 fezvez wrote: Question : Is Khaldor right about BCs being buffed back in HotS? Liquipedia says the contrary...
well they got buff with upgrades, first the armor then the attack which allows for super early 3/3 bc nowadays.
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On January 15 2014 20:16 fezvez wrote: Question : Is Khaldor right about BCs being buffed back in HotS? Liquipedia says the contrary...
Didn't it get some acceleration work done?
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This is Terran, we have arrived. Fear for you underlings, minions, zergs... prepare for the fury of wanton burning Terran psionic rage overcoming your prescience, protoss adversaries.
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On January 15 2014 20:17 Zheryn wrote:I still find it hilarious how the latest balance blog mentioned buffing mech air 
even morrow found it retarded on Meta yesterday :p
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Does Mech work in vP? or only against zerg?
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On January 15 2014 20:17 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 20:16 fezvez wrote: Question : Is Khaldor right about BCs being buffed back in HotS? Liquipedia says the contrary... well they got buff with upgrades, first the armor then the attack which allows for super early 3/3 bc nowadays.
Yamato went from 125-->100energy.
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On January 15 2014 20:18 XiaoJoyce- wrote: Does Mech work in vP? or only against zerg? Not even that. Mech needs early dmg with hellions or it fails.
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On January 15 2014 20:18 XiaoJoyce- wrote: Does Mech work in vP? or only against zerg? You cant survive anything in TvP, you need to hope Protoss doesnt all-in.
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On January 15 2014 20:18 XiaoJoyce- wrote: Does Mech work in vP? or only against zerg?
Nope. Still holding out hope for the chosen one to appear in vP...or Blizzard to fix it.
Bio seems better in most circumstance vZ, but yes mech works too.
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On January 15 2014 20:19 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 20:18 XiaoJoyce- wrote: Does Mech work in vP? or only against zerg? Nope. Still holding out hope for the chosen one to appear in vP...or Blizzard to fix it. Bio seems better in most circumstance vZ, but yes mech works too.
it's actually ok in macro games but you die to any all ins. and with the blink meta atm it's not even worth trying.
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On January 15 2014 20:17 Shellshock wrote:0:00  Shine spawns in the bottom left  GuMiho spawns in the top left 1:40 rax first for GuMiho gas for GuMiho
2:00 hatch first for Shine pool for Shine reaper for GuMiho
3:00 2nd reaper for GuMiho
4:00 CC for GuMiho reaper harassing in the main of Shine Factory for GuMiho reactor for GuMiho 2nd reaper arrives at the main of Shine
5:00 reapers are unable to kill any drones 3rd CC for GuMiho 2nd gas for GuMiho
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The "Don't let them get to that composition" arguments sounds very familiar to the old zerg argument that Terran players used to hate when BL/Infestor was popular
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On January 15 2014 20:17 Khaldor wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 20:16 fezvez wrote: Question : Is Khaldor right about BCs being buffed back in HotS? Liquipedia says the contrary... I didn't even say that lol
Wolf did. Tell him he's wrong, that buff got reverted very early in the beta BC damage is the same as it was in WoL.
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On January 15 2014 20:18 XiaoJoyce- wrote: Does Mech work in vP? or only against zerg?
Not at the pro-level.
I've seen it played successfully at the NA GM level though.
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On January 15 2014 20:21 KelsierSC wrote: The "Don't let them get to that composition" arguments sounds very familiar to the old zerg argument that Terran players used to hate when BL/Infestor was popular
well you got more chance against bl/infest than sky T. I don't think you can lose if you get your dream composition of viking/raven/bcs vZ, there is no way Z can beat this army.
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On January 15 2014 20:21 KelsierSC wrote: The "Don't let them get to that composition" arguments sounds very familiar to the old zerg argument that Terran players used to hate when BL/Infestor was popular
Yeah it's basically the same situation. Kill the terran before he has mined enough from 4 bases to afford skyterran, or you lose. Was boring in WoL with BL/infestor, still boring now with mech.
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On January 15 2014 20:19 gingerfluffmuff wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 20:18 XiaoJoyce- wrote: Does Mech work in vP? or only against zerg? Not even that. Mech needs early dmg with hellions or it fails. Tell that to Reality.
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On January 15 2014 20:22 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 20:18 XiaoJoyce- wrote: Does Mech work in vP? or only against zerg? Not at the pro-level. I've seen it played successfully at the NA GM level though. Lol, perfect opportunity to mention Avilo again.
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seems like hes going mech on this map o_o
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mech again? On this map? This could be a long one..
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On January 15 2014 20:21 KelsierSC wrote: The "Don't let them get to that composition" arguments sounds very familiar to the old zerg argument that Terran players used to hate when BL/Infestor was popular
Is mech unbeatable now all of a sudden? and is this composition you speak off standard at 15 min?
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On January 15 2014 20:22 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 20:21 KelsierSC wrote: The "Don't let them get to that composition" arguments sounds very familiar to the old zerg argument that Terran players used to hate when BL/Infestor was popular well you got more chance against bl/infest than sky T. I don't think you can lose if you get your dream composition of viking/raven/bcs vZ, there is no way Z can beat this army.
Yeh I wasn't really comparing the compositions, just mentioning that the argument of "It is your fault if you let them reach X composition" has been experienced and it wasn't particularly enjoyabke
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On January 15 2014 20:22 Swiipii wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 20:19 gingerfluffmuff wrote:On January 15 2014 20:18 XiaoJoyce- wrote: Does Mech work in vP? or only against zerg? Not even that. Mech needs early dmg with hellions or it fails. Tell that to Reality. Man, that game. I will never forget that. Humiliation³
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On January 15 2014 20:22 Dark.Carnival wrote: seems like hes going mech on this map o_o
if you go crazy with hellbat drops, banshees and bfh runby you'll actually be able to push on vertical spawns I think.
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On January 15 2014 20:23 Fjodorov wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 20:21 KelsierSC wrote: The "Don't let them get to that composition" arguments sounds very familiar to the old zerg argument that Terran players used to hate when BL/Infestor was popular Is mech unbeatable now all of a sudden? and is this composition you speak off standard at 15 min? I don't think it is. It gets hardcountered pretty hardcore. But it's definetely viable in a boX.
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On January 15 2014 20:20 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 20:17 Shellshock wrote:0:00  Shine spawns in the bottom left  GuMiho spawns in the top left 1:40 rax first for GuMiho gas for GuMiho 2:00 hatch first for Shine pool for Shine reaper for GuMiho 3:00 2nd reaper for GuMiho 4:00 CC for GuMiho reaper harassing in the main of Shine Factory for GuMiho reactor for GuMiho 2nd reaper arrives at the main of Shine 5:00 reapers are unable to kill any drones 3rd CC for GuMiho 2nd gas for GuMiho 6:00 starport for GuMiho ling speed for Shine first hellions are out for Gumiho hellions in the main of Shine hellions bounce to the naturla and kill a few drones
7:00 65 vs 42 cloak and banshee for GuMiho overlord scouts the starport and research 3rd base for Shine Lair for Shine Roach warren for Shine double evo chamber for Shine spores for Shine
8:00 61 vs :T 53 1-1 range upgrades for Shine GuMiho lands his 3rd base double armory for GuMiho viking for GuMiho roaches started for Shine
9:00 83 vs 72 2 more factories for GuMiho raven for GuMiho first banshee harassing the main of Shine nydus network for Shine 1-1 vehicle upgrades started for GuMiho roaches go into the nydus network nydus worm started outside GuMiho's main
10:00 123 vs 83 hellions and banshee move over to kill the nydus queen pops out and transfuses the worm to save it Roaches trying to bust the main ramp of GuMiho the wall is open GuMiho ggs!
Shine ties it up 1-1!
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Not a long one after all xD
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On January 15 2014 20:17 Zheryn wrote:I still find it hilarious how the latest balance blog mentioned buffing mech air 
It bothers me deeply. There are problems with Mech still especially vs Protoss but buffing sky-Terran is just about the most clueless way to address any of that unless it involves making Ground Mode Vikings viable.
I am sure that DK mentioned Mech Air as a way of saying they are currently looking at all options, but let's be real here Sky-Terran is doing fine in 2/3 match ups.
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On January 15 2014 20:23 Fjodorov wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 20:21 KelsierSC wrote: The "Don't let them get to that composition" arguments sounds very familiar to the old zerg argument that Terran players used to hate when BL/Infestor was popular Is mech unbeatable now all of a sudden? and is this composition you speak off standard at 15 min?
I think the discussion was about sky terran actually.
Again I was merely saying that the idea of having an unbeatable composition is not particularly enjoyable
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On January 15 2014 20:23 Fjodorov wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 20:21 KelsierSC wrote: The "Don't let them get to that composition" arguments sounds very familiar to the old zerg argument that Terran players used to hate when BL/Infestor was popular Is mech unbeatable now all of a sudden? and is this composition you speak off standard at 15 min?
no you can't get it before ultra lategame, but it's almost unbeatable if ou get there. There is a reason GoOdy vZ sky rocketed after the last buff.
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Feels so good watching mech die.
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well that was smart. I liked that a lot by shine.
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On January 15 2014 20:23 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: mech again? On this map? This could be a long one..
JINX!
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well that was brutal.. not sure why he went for mech on alterzim anyway, the 4th is so far away..
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ah, the classic symbol fake double evo into nydus?
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Shine(MVP) channelling his inner Shine(SGK)
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On January 15 2014 20:25 Waxangel wrote: ah, the classic symbol fake double evo into nydus?
He got +1+1
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On January 15 2014 20:25 Qwerty85 wrote: well that was brutal.. not sure why he went for mech on alterzim anyway, the 4th is so far away.. Really easy to take a third. And to reach the 4th on the top right you'll have to get near the 3rd. :/
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And that is how you nydus... Awesome move.
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On January 15 2014 20:22 gingerfluffmuff wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 20:22 Vindicare605 wrote:On January 15 2014 20:18 XiaoJoyce- wrote: Does Mech work in vP? or only against zerg? Not at the pro-level. I've seen it played successfully at the NA GM level though. Lol, perfect opportunity to mention Avilo again.
Wasn't really referring to Avilo, more referring to HTOMario although I've seen Mech played well in some of the teamleagues I've casted at the NA GM level from less well known GMs. Specific names escape me atm though.
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On January 15 2014 20:25 Pangpootata wrote: Shine(MVP) channelling his inner Shine(SGK)
Haha, I was thinking that too. Such a Shiney play.
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On January 15 2014 20:26 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 20:22 gingerfluffmuff wrote:On January 15 2014 20:22 Vindicare605 wrote:On January 15 2014 20:18 XiaoJoyce- wrote: Does Mech work in vP? or only against zerg? Not at the pro-level. I've seen it played successfully at the NA GM level though. Lol, perfect opportunity to mention Avilo again. Wasn't really referring to Avilo, more referring to HTOMario although I've seen Mech played well in some of the teamleagues I've casted at the NA GM level from less well known GMs. Specific names escape me atm though.
We also saw Mvp try a mech timing attack vs herO at IEM (right?). It was on Whirlwind, and it failed miserably
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This map makes me think of the DotA map.
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Dont Wolf work for Kespa?
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On January 15 2014 20:26 Swiipii wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 20:25 Qwerty85 wrote: well that was brutal.. not sure why he went for mech on alterzim anyway, the 4th is so far away.. Really easy to take a third. And to reach the 4th on the top right you'll have to get near the 3rd. :/
Maybe if he planned to go for that 2-2 mech timing like Mvp did against Curious it would make sense, but I think bio is better on a map like that.
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On January 15 2014 20:27 JacobShock wrote: Dont Wolf work for Kespa?
He's double-dippin yo
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On January 15 2014 20:28 AlternativeEgo wrote:He's double-dippin yo Dat dirty esports-dolla edit: off to lunch, dont get banned mates, cya around
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On January 15 2014 20:27 DJHelium wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 20:26 Vindicare605 wrote:On January 15 2014 20:22 gingerfluffmuff wrote:On January 15 2014 20:22 Vindicare605 wrote:On January 15 2014 20:18 XiaoJoyce- wrote: Does Mech work in vP? or only against zerg? Not at the pro-level. I've seen it played successfully at the NA GM level though. Lol, perfect opportunity to mention Avilo again. Wasn't really referring to Avilo, more referring to HTOMario although I've seen Mech played well in some of the teamleagues I've casted at the NA GM level from less well known GMs. Specific names escape me atm though. We also saw Mvp try a mech timing attack vs herO at IEM (right?). It was on Whirlwind, and it failed miserably 
Like I said, it's not viable at the pro-level.
Nearly all of the best Protoss professionals are ex-BW players who don't panic when they see Mech being used, from what I've experienced most of Mech's viability at the levels below that vs Protoss comes from just a lack of experience Protoss players have against it.
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On January 15 2014 20:27 JacobShock wrote: Dont Wolf work for Kespa?
He is sitting on two chairs
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bio :o or marau/hellion all in
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On January 15 2014 20:26 Shellshock wrote:0:00  Shine spawns in the bottom left  GuMiho spawns in the top right 1:40 rax first for GuMiho gas for GuMiho
2:00 hatch first for Shine reaper for GuMiho pool for Shine
3:00 gas for Shine gas steal by Shine CC for GuMiho on the low ground factory for GuMiho reactor for GuMiho
4:00 ling speed for Shine reaper harassing the main of Shine
5:00 marauder for GuMiho hellions for GuMiho stim research for GuMiho
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We're all Kespa now. except startale scrubs
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Double marauder, that's weird.
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On January 15 2014 20:31 Aeromi wrote: Polt push ?
I think so.
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Marauder/Hellion with 3rd base and double ebays?
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Now Gumiho has to defend the roach bane bust. Nope Shine isn't even trying. :x
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On January 15 2014 20:32 Heartland wrote: Marauder/Hellion with 3rd base and double ebays?
what's funny is that it ended up working because Shine scouted his 3rd.
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On January 15 2014 20:30 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 20:26 Shellshock wrote:0:00  Shine spawns in the bottom left  GuMiho spawns in the top right 1:40 rax first for GuMiho gas for GuMiho 2:00 hatch first for Shine reaper for GuMiho pool for Shine 3:00 gas for Shine gas steal by Shine CC for GuMiho on the low ground factory for GuMiho reactor for GuMiho 4:00 ling speed for Shine reaper harassing the main of Shine 5:00 marauder for GuMiho hellions for GuMiho stim research for GuMiho 6:00 3rd base for Shine another gas for Shine hellions and reaper force a cancel on Shine's 3rd 3rd CC for GuMiho Roach warren for Shine
7:00 55 vs 51 3rd base restarted for Shine double ebay for GuMiho baneling nest for Shine double evo for Shine roaches for Shine
8:00 69 vs 72 hellion marauder push at the 3rd of Shine 3rd of Shine is killed
9:00 83 vs 76 hellions and marauders are cornered and GuMiho trades away his army 2 hellions actually escape widow mines for GuMiho 1-1 started for Gumiho's bio Lair for Shine 3rd base restarted for Shine
10:00 84 vs 66 1-1 ling upgrades started for Shine armory for GuMiho 3 more rax for GuMiho baneling speed for Shine macro hatch for Shine
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On January 15 2014 20:28 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 20:27 DJHelium wrote:On January 15 2014 20:26 Vindicare605 wrote:On January 15 2014 20:22 gingerfluffmuff wrote:On January 15 2014 20:22 Vindicare605 wrote:On January 15 2014 20:18 XiaoJoyce- wrote: Does Mech work in vP? or only against zerg? Not at the pro-level. I've seen it played successfully at the NA GM level though. Lol, perfect opportunity to mention Avilo again. Wasn't really referring to Avilo, more referring to HTOMario although I've seen Mech played well in some of the teamleagues I've casted at the NA GM level from less well known GMs. Specific names escape me atm though. We also saw Mvp try a mech timing attack vs herO at IEM (right?). It was on Whirlwind, and it failed miserably  Like I said, it's not viable at the pro-level. Nearly all of the best Protoss professionals are ex-BW players who don't panic when they see Mech being used, from what I've experienced most of Mech's viability at the levels below that vs Protoss comes from just a lack of experience Protoss players have against it. It's viable. It's just there is no reason to use mech over bio, just like pre widow mine nerf and combine upgrade buff in tvz. Bio is just better in most cases. But it certainly can work We saw supernova winning with mech so at least it worked at pro level occasionally
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Gumiho making supply walls everywhere :D
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On January 15 2014 20:34 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 20:30 Shellshock wrote:On January 15 2014 20:26 Shellshock wrote:0:00  Shine spawns in the bottom left  GuMiho spawns in the top right 1:40 rax first for GuMiho gas for GuMiho 2:00 hatch first for Shine reaper for GuMiho pool for Shine 3:00 gas for Shine gas steal by Shine CC for GuMiho on the low ground factory for GuMiho reactor for GuMiho 4:00 ling speed for Shine reaper harassing the main of Shine 5:00 marauder for GuMiho hellions for GuMiho stim research for GuMiho 6:00 3rd base for Shine another gas for Shine hellions and reaper force a cancel on Shine's 3rd 3rd CC for GuMiho Roach warren for Shine 7:00  55 vs  51 3rd base restarted for Shine double ebay for GuMiho baneling nest for Shine double evo for Shine roaches for Shine 8:00  69 vs  72 hellion marauder push at the 3rd of Shine 3rd of Shine is killed 9:00  83 vs  76 hellions and marauders are cornered and GuMiho trades away his army 2 hellions actually escape widow mines for GuMiho 1-1 started for Gumiho's bio Lair for Shine 3rd base restarted for Shine 10:00  84 vs  66 1-1 ling upgrades started for Shine armory for GuMiho 3 more rax for GuMiho baneling speed for Shine macro hatch for Shine 11:00 94 vs 86 GuMiho takes his 3rd 2-2 started for GuMiho combat shields for GuMiho spore for Shine spire for Shine medivacs for GuMiho ling roach pressure at the 3rd of GuMiho GuMiho is able to push the attack back
12:00 109 vs 113 17 more banes for Shine even more banelings for Shine
13:00 113 vs 120 baneling speed is finished +1 vehicle armor for GuMiho drop forces a cancel on shine's 4th right after it starts GuMiho cleaning up creep with his drop mutas for Shine
14:00 136 vs 158 burrow research started for Shine 4th base restarted for Shine +2 melee for Shine drop at the 4th of Shine is cleaned up +2 carapace for Shine more creep is being cleaned up by GuMiho 4th CC for GuMiho
15:00 140 vs 171 overlord speed for Shine 3-3 started for GuMiho bio push forces a cancel on Shine's 4th
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Shine is so dead.. I really hope Gumiho shows better TvP
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On January 15 2014 20:35 ETisME wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 20:28 Vindicare605 wrote:On January 15 2014 20:27 DJHelium wrote:On January 15 2014 20:26 Vindicare605 wrote:On January 15 2014 20:22 gingerfluffmuff wrote:On January 15 2014 20:22 Vindicare605 wrote:On January 15 2014 20:18 XiaoJoyce- wrote: Does Mech work in vP? or only against zerg? Not at the pro-level. I've seen it played successfully at the NA GM level though. Lol, perfect opportunity to mention Avilo again. Wasn't really referring to Avilo, more referring to HTOMario although I've seen Mech played well in some of the teamleagues I've casted at the NA GM level from less well known GMs. Specific names escape me atm though. We also saw Mvp try a mech timing attack vs herO at IEM (right?). It was on Whirlwind, and it failed miserably  Like I said, it's not viable at the pro-level. Nearly all of the best Protoss professionals are ex-BW players who don't panic when they see Mech being used, from what I've experienced most of Mech's viability at the levels below that vs Protoss comes from just a lack of experience Protoss players have against it. It's viable. It's just there is no reason to use mech over bio, just like pre widow mine nerf and combine upgrade buff in tvz. Bio is just better in most cases. But it certainly can work We saw supernova winning with mech so at least it worked at pro level occasionally
If I told you a strategy was successful let's say.... 3 out of 25 times (and that's being generous) would you consider it viable?
It's not viable. It's not that Bio is better (which it is) Mech just has way too many weaknesses a good Protoss can exploit while having so few strengths to make it worth using.
The few times we've seen it employed successfully at the pro-Level it has been in timing attack all ins, most of which are only successful due to significant Hellion or Widow Mine damage done due to poor preparation or scouting from the Protoss.
That's not viability, that's fluke wins.
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Well this game was kind of over after the kill on the third. Not really sure how to know that push is coming when terran has map control with hellions.
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On January 15 2014 20:35 ETisME wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 20:28 Vindicare605 wrote:On January 15 2014 20:27 DJHelium wrote:On January 15 2014 20:26 Vindicare605 wrote:On January 15 2014 20:22 gingerfluffmuff wrote:On January 15 2014 20:22 Vindicare605 wrote:On January 15 2014 20:18 XiaoJoyce- wrote: Does Mech work in vP? or only against zerg? Not at the pro-level. I've seen it played successfully at the NA GM level though. Lol, perfect opportunity to mention Avilo again. Wasn't really referring to Avilo, more referring to HTOMario although I've seen Mech played well in some of the teamleagues I've casted at the NA GM level from less well known GMs. Specific names escape me atm though. We also saw Mvp try a mech timing attack vs herO at IEM (right?). It was on Whirlwind, and it failed miserably  Like I said, it's not viable at the pro-level. Nearly all of the best Protoss professionals are ex-BW players who don't panic when they see Mech being used, from what I've experienced most of Mech's viability at the levels below that vs Protoss comes from just a lack of experience Protoss players have against it. It's viable. It's just there is no reason to use mech over bio, just like pre widow mine nerf and combine upgrade buff in tvz. Bio is just better in most cases. But it certainly can work We saw supernova winning with mech so at least it worked at pro level occasionally
it's viable if you accept to die to any all in pre 10min to get a composition that's actually worse than bio. Which is just bad.
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On January 15 2014 20:37 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 20:34 Shellshock wrote:On January 15 2014 20:30 Shellshock wrote:On January 15 2014 20:26 Shellshock wrote:0:00  Shine spawns in the bottom left  GuMiho spawns in the top right 1:40 rax first for GuMiho gas for GuMiho 2:00 hatch first for Shine reaper for GuMiho pool for Shine 3:00 gas for Shine gas steal by Shine CC for GuMiho on the low ground factory for GuMiho reactor for GuMiho 4:00 ling speed for Shine reaper harassing the main of Shine 5:00 marauder for GuMiho hellions for GuMiho stim research for GuMiho 6:00 3rd base for Shine another gas for Shine hellions and reaper force a cancel on Shine's 3rd 3rd CC for GuMiho Roach warren for Shine 7:00  55 vs  51 3rd base restarted for Shine double ebay for GuMiho baneling nest for Shine double evo for Shine roaches for Shine 8:00  69 vs  72 hellion marauder push at the 3rd of Shine 3rd of Shine is killed 9:00  83 vs  76 hellions and marauders are cornered and GuMiho trades away his army 2 hellions actually escape widow mines for GuMiho 1-1 started for Gumiho's bio Lair for Shine 3rd base restarted for Shine 10:00  84 vs  66 1-1 ling upgrades started for Shine armory for GuMiho 3 more rax for GuMiho baneling speed for Shine macro hatch for Shine 11:00  94 vs  86 GuMiho takes his 3rd 2-2 started for GuMiho combat shields for GuMiho spore for Shine spire for Shine medivacs for GuMiho ling roach pressure at the 3rd of GuMiho GuMiho is able to push the attack back 12:00  109 vs  113 17 more banes for Shine even more banelings for Shine 13:00  113 vs  120 baneling speed is finished +1 vehicle armor for GuMiho drop forces a cancel on shine's 4th right after it starts GuMiho cleaning up creep with his drop mutas for Shine 14:00  136 vs  158 burrow research started for Shine 4th base restarted for Shine +2 melee for Shine drop at the 4th of Shine is cleaned up +2 carapace for Shine more creep is being cleaned up by GuMiho 4th CC for GuMiho 15:00  140 vs  171 overlord speed for Shine 3-3 started for GuMiho bio push forces a cancel on Shine's 4th 16:00 155 vs 181 GuMiho pushing into the 3rd of Shine concussive shells for GuMiho +2 vehicle armor for GuMiho GuMiho doesnt split very well against the banes but he has too much for it to matter
17:00 105 vs 149 Shine ggs!
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Hopefully Gumiho does better against Classic.
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damnit why does a P have to stand in the way of Gumiho
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WP Gumi, GG Shine! Now cruuusshh the Chintoss!
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On January 15 2014 20:37 Zheryn wrote: Well this game was kind of over after the kill on the third. Not really sure how to know that push is coming when terran has map control with hellions.
Shine saw Gumiho save up marauders and hellions in his natural, should've been able to prepare imo.
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yay Gumiho!
I don't think he'll win vs Classic simply because his creativity just isn't anywhere near as valuable in TvP as it is in TvZ but it's good to see him not go last in this group.
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On January 15 2014 20:38 Fjodorov wrote:damnit why does a P have to stand in the way of Gumiho 
He will be twice as happy if he wins then!
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On January 15 2014 20:39 DJHelium wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 20:37 Zheryn wrote: Well this game was kind of over after the kill on the third. Not really sure how to know that push is coming when terran has map control with hellions. Shine saw Gumiho save up marauders and hellions in his natural, should've been able to prepare imo.
he scouted the 3rd and didn't know the fac had prod non stop, he was tricked by his scouting :'(
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On January 15 2014 20:39 DJHelium wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 20:37 Zheryn wrote: Well this game was kind of over after the kill on the third. Not really sure how to know that push is coming when terran has map control with hellions. Shine saw Gumiho save up marauders and hellions in his natural, should've been able to prepare imo. He saw 2 marauders which is standard if the Terran fears some kind of agression (Gumiho did see a worker still mining gas).
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On January 15 2014 20:37 Zheryn wrote: Well this game was kind of over after the kill on the third. Not really sure how to know that push is coming when terran has map control with hellions.
dunno how terran can hide that when they don't have anything that can shoot up
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well at least Gumiho is still good enough to beat a weak zerg. Unfortunately after the games earlier against Classic I don't think he has much of a chance to make it to Code S
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On January 15 2014 20:39 Doublemint wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 20:38 Fjodorov wrote:damnit why does a P have to stand in the way of Gumiho  He will be twice as happy if he wins then!
He won't.
Classic beat him so convincingly in that last series that I'd be amazed if Gumiho even takes a map in the second series. Don't get me wrong, I'd be thrilled but I just don't see it happening.
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On January 15 2014 20:39 Vindicare605 wrote: yay Gumiho!
I don't think he'll win vs Classic simply because his creativity just isn't anywhere near as valuable in TvP as it is in TvZ but it's good to see him not go last in this group.
Yeah I feel he is hit especially hard by the staleness of the TvP matchup from the terran perspective.
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On January 15 2014 20:37 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 20:35 ETisME wrote:On January 15 2014 20:28 Vindicare605 wrote:On January 15 2014 20:27 DJHelium wrote:On January 15 2014 20:26 Vindicare605 wrote:On January 15 2014 20:22 gingerfluffmuff wrote:On January 15 2014 20:22 Vindicare605 wrote:On January 15 2014 20:18 XiaoJoyce- wrote: Does Mech work in vP? or only against zerg? Not at the pro-level. I've seen it played successfully at the NA GM level though. Lol, perfect opportunity to mention Avilo again. Wasn't really referring to Avilo, more referring to HTOMario although I've seen Mech played well in some of the teamleagues I've casted at the NA GM level from less well known GMs. Specific names escape me atm though. We also saw Mvp try a mech timing attack vs herO at IEM (right?). It was on Whirlwind, and it failed miserably  Like I said, it's not viable at the pro-level. Nearly all of the best Protoss professionals are ex-BW players who don't panic when they see Mech being used, from what I've experienced most of Mech's viability at the levels below that vs Protoss comes from just a lack of experience Protoss players have against it. It's viable. It's just there is no reason to use mech over bio, just like pre widow mine nerf and combine upgrade buff in tvz. Bio is just better in most cases. But it certainly can work We saw supernova winning with mech so at least it worked at pro level occasionally If I told you a strategy was successful let's say.... 3 out of 25 times (and that's being generous) would you consider it viable? It's not viable. It's not that Bio is better (which it is) Mech just has way too many weaknesses a good Protoss can exploit while having so few strengths to make it worth using. The few times we've seen it employed successfully at the pro-Level it has been in timing attack all ins, most of which are only successful due to significant Hellion or Widow Mine damage done due to poor preparation or scouting from the Protoss. That's not viability, that's fluke wins. I am pretty sure for all Korea broadcasted tvp mech game. The win rate is higher than its lose rate. Also don't forget mine drop is one opening for mech and also bio. The fact that the terran chooses mech as a follow up shows mech does have potential.
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On January 15 2014 20:41 Fjodorov wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 20:39 Vindicare605 wrote: yay Gumiho!
I don't think he'll win vs Classic simply because his creativity just isn't anywhere near as valuable in TvP as it is in TvZ but it's good to see him not go last in this group. Yeah I feel he is hit especially hard by the staleness of the TvP matchup from the terran perspective.
He's just one of many.
The match up is pure mechanics at this point, there's so few ways to catch a Protoss off guard in a BoX series. Doesn't help that you always have to play safe in case they decide THEY want to be aggressive and go for any one of their all ins they can use.
Terrans like Gumiho just can't survive in that kind of environment.
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On January 15 2014 20:35 ETisME wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 20:28 Vindicare605 wrote:On January 15 2014 20:27 DJHelium wrote:On January 15 2014 20:26 Vindicare605 wrote:On January 15 2014 20:22 gingerfluffmuff wrote:On January 15 2014 20:22 Vindicare605 wrote:On January 15 2014 20:18 XiaoJoyce- wrote: Does Mech work in vP? or only against zerg? Not at the pro-level. I've seen it played successfully at the NA GM level though. Lol, perfect opportunity to mention Avilo again. Wasn't really referring to Avilo, more referring to HTOMario although I've seen Mech played well in some of the teamleagues I've casted at the NA GM level from less well known GMs. Specific names escape me atm though. We also saw Mvp try a mech timing attack vs herO at IEM (right?). It was on Whirlwind, and it failed miserably  Like I said, it's not viable at the pro-level. Nearly all of the best Protoss professionals are ex-BW players who don't panic when they see Mech being used, from what I've experienced most of Mech's viability at the levels below that vs Protoss comes from just a lack of experience Protoss players have against it. It's viable. It's just there is no reason to use mech over bio, just like pre widow mine nerf and combine upgrade buff in tvz. Bio is just better in most cases. But it certainly can work We saw supernova winning with mech so at least it worked at pro level occasionally
That is not how it works. Before the tank buff and combined upgrades we never saw mech in Hots TvZ as well. Now we have 2 possible playstyles. If mech was really viable against protoss as you claim it is, we would see it at least in like 1/10th of games played.
And I remember that Supernova game. It was on Frost, horizontal spawn. Not sure who was the protoss but I remember that he opened oracle and despite being able to fly around Supernova's base and scout he recognized he is playing against mech super late. And before that he went for a 2 base storm all in and suicided everything into bunkers and siege tanks.
SN also had WM on both 3rd bases so his third was delayed for a long time because he had no robo and detection. Only then he added robos and Supernova already had like a 100 supply advantage when he moved out.
So it was basically a major screw up on protoss part. Not the best example of mech being viable.
You know mech is super rare since I remember almost the whole game, lol
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On January 15 2014 20:42 ETisME wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 20:37 Vindicare605 wrote:On January 15 2014 20:35 ETisME wrote:On January 15 2014 20:28 Vindicare605 wrote:On January 15 2014 20:27 DJHelium wrote:On January 15 2014 20:26 Vindicare605 wrote:On January 15 2014 20:22 gingerfluffmuff wrote:On January 15 2014 20:22 Vindicare605 wrote:On January 15 2014 20:18 XiaoJoyce- wrote: Does Mech work in vP? or only against zerg? Not at the pro-level. I've seen it played successfully at the NA GM level though. Lol, perfect opportunity to mention Avilo again. Wasn't really referring to Avilo, more referring to HTOMario although I've seen Mech played well in some of the teamleagues I've casted at the NA GM level from less well known GMs. Specific names escape me atm though. We also saw Mvp try a mech timing attack vs herO at IEM (right?). It was on Whirlwind, and it failed miserably  Like I said, it's not viable at the pro-level. Nearly all of the best Protoss professionals are ex-BW players who don't panic when they see Mech being used, from what I've experienced most of Mech's viability at the levels below that vs Protoss comes from just a lack of experience Protoss players have against it. It's viable. It's just there is no reason to use mech over bio, just like pre widow mine nerf and combine upgrade buff in tvz. Bio is just better in most cases. But it certainly can work We saw supernova winning with mech so at least it worked at pro level occasionally If I told you a strategy was successful let's say.... 3 out of 25 times (and that's being generous) would you consider it viable? It's not viable. It's not that Bio is better (which it is) Mech just has way too many weaknesses a good Protoss can exploit while having so few strengths to make it worth using. The few times we've seen it employed successfully at the pro-Level it has been in timing attack all ins, most of which are only successful due to significant Hellion or Widow Mine damage done due to poor preparation or scouting from the Protoss. That's not viability, that's fluke wins. I am pretty sure for all Korea broadcasted tvp mech game. The win rate is higher than its lose rate. Also don't forget mine drop is one opening for mech and also bio. The fact that the terran chooses mech as a follow up shows mech does have potential.
Maru could've win with upgradeless marines... that's the case for quite a few mech vP games when you just get a good harass/bbq off and then can win with mass vikings if you want.
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On January 15 2014 20:42 ETisME wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 20:37 Vindicare605 wrote:On January 15 2014 20:35 ETisME wrote:On January 15 2014 20:28 Vindicare605 wrote:On January 15 2014 20:27 DJHelium wrote:On January 15 2014 20:26 Vindicare605 wrote:On January 15 2014 20:22 gingerfluffmuff wrote:On January 15 2014 20:22 Vindicare605 wrote:On January 15 2014 20:18 XiaoJoyce- wrote: Does Mech work in vP? or only against zerg? Not at the pro-level. I've seen it played successfully at the NA GM level though. Lol, perfect opportunity to mention Avilo again. Wasn't really referring to Avilo, more referring to HTOMario although I've seen Mech played well in some of the teamleagues I've casted at the NA GM level from less well known GMs. Specific names escape me atm though. We also saw Mvp try a mech timing attack vs herO at IEM (right?). It was on Whirlwind, and it failed miserably  Like I said, it's not viable at the pro-level. Nearly all of the best Protoss professionals are ex-BW players who don't panic when they see Mech being used, from what I've experienced most of Mech's viability at the levels below that vs Protoss comes from just a lack of experience Protoss players have against it. It's viable. It's just there is no reason to use mech over bio, just like pre widow mine nerf and combine upgrade buff in tvz. Bio is just better in most cases. But it certainly can work We saw supernova winning with mech so at least it worked at pro level occasionally If I told you a strategy was successful let's say.... 3 out of 25 times (and that's being generous) would you consider it viable? It's not viable. It's not that Bio is better (which it is) Mech just has way too many weaknesses a good Protoss can exploit while having so few strengths to make it worth using. The few times we've seen it employed successfully at the pro-Level it has been in timing attack all ins, most of which are only successful due to significant Hellion or Widow Mine damage done due to poor preparation or scouting from the Protoss. That's not viability, that's fluke wins. I am pretty sure for all Korea broadcasted tvp mech game. The win rate is higher than its lose rate. Also don't forget mine drop is one opening for mech and also bio. The fact that the terran chooses mech as a follow up shows mech does have potential.
Love to see where you get THAT stat from.
I watch more Starcraft than is probably healthy and I think I've seen ONE Mech win in all of that time that wasn't the result of some kind of fluke damage done from Hellions or Widow Mines and I've NEVER seen it successful at the top levels of play.
Thing is, when you do that kind of damage it doesn't even matter what you follow it up with.
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I'm not going to LR the last series because I have some stuff to do. If anyone wants to give it a shot feel free
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On January 15 2014 20:47 Shellshock wrote: I'm not going to LR the last series because I have some stuff to do. If anyone wants to give it a shot feel free
EDIT: actually nvm, I'm too tired for that shit too lol.
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On January 15 2014 20:47 Shellshock wrote: I'm not going to LR the last series because I have some stuff to do. If anyone wants to give it a shot feel free Thanks Shellbot!
LF1Soul with the balls to do it!
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2 rax Reaper? This aint gonna work
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On January 15 2014 20:48 Wintex wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 20:47 Shellshock wrote: I'm not going to LR the last series because I have some stuff to do. If anyone wants to give it a shot feel free Thanks Shellbot! LF1Soul with the balls to do it!
*starts chant*
Wintex...wintex...wintex...wintex..wintex...!
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On January 15 2014 20:40 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 20:39 Doublemint wrote:On January 15 2014 20:38 Fjodorov wrote:damnit why does a P have to stand in the way of Gumiho  He will be twice as happy if he wins then! He won't. Classic beat him so convincingly in that last series that I'd be amazed if Gumiho even takes a map in the second series. Don't get me wrong, I'd be thrilled but I just don't see it happening.
I don't see how the "he won't." fits in there as a comment to my post, but yeah, other than that I guess you are right.
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On January 15 2014 20:49 NovaMB wrote:2 rax Reaper? This aint gonna work 
this is the best map to do it tho. rofl scouted
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Well that is it for game 1 I am afraid.
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On January 15 2014 20:50 sAsImre wrote:this is the best map to do it tho. rofl scouted Classic is going to Blink all-in his ass tho :/
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Well this won't be pretty. 
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On January 15 2014 20:51 NovaMB wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 20:50 sAsImre wrote:On January 15 2014 20:49 NovaMB wrote:2 rax Reaper? This aint gonna work  this is the best map to do it tho. rofl scouted Classic is going to Blink all-in his ass tho :/
yeah no way you hold it with this kind of build without hugely overcommitting, then the P sits back tech to colo and kills you.
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Seems like a fine map for blink... that main from third access line :O
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On January 15 2014 20:51 NovaMB wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 20:50 sAsImre wrote:On January 15 2014 20:49 NovaMB wrote:2 rax Reaper? This aint gonna work  this is the best map to do it tho. rofl scouted Classic is going to Blink all-in his ass tho :/
classic move on that map
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Yes Siege Tank!!
Edit: ahw siege tank
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haha as soon as you see a tank vs blink stalkers it gets instantly sniped
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On January 15 2014 20:53 Ketch wrote:Yes Siege Tank!! Edit: ahw siege tank 
did more than excepted by being a scapgoat :D
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On January 15 2014 20:45 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 20:42 ETisME wrote:On January 15 2014 20:37 Vindicare605 wrote:On January 15 2014 20:35 ETisME wrote:On January 15 2014 20:28 Vindicare605 wrote:On January 15 2014 20:27 DJHelium wrote:On January 15 2014 20:26 Vindicare605 wrote:On January 15 2014 20:22 gingerfluffmuff wrote:On January 15 2014 20:22 Vindicare605 wrote:On January 15 2014 20:18 XiaoJoyce- wrote: Does Mech work in vP? or only against zerg? Not at the pro-level. I've seen it played successfully at the NA GM level though. Lol, perfect opportunity to mention Avilo again. Wasn't really referring to Avilo, more referring to HTOMario although I've seen Mech played well in some of the teamleagues I've casted at the NA GM level from less well known GMs. Specific names escape me atm though. We also saw Mvp try a mech timing attack vs herO at IEM (right?). It was on Whirlwind, and it failed miserably  Like I said, it's not viable at the pro-level. Nearly all of the best Protoss professionals are ex-BW players who don't panic when they see Mech being used, from what I've experienced most of Mech's viability at the levels below that vs Protoss comes from just a lack of experience Protoss players have against it. It's viable. It's just there is no reason to use mech over bio, just like pre widow mine nerf and combine upgrade buff in tvz. Bio is just better in most cases. But it certainly can work We saw supernova winning with mech so at least it worked at pro level occasionally If I told you a strategy was successful let's say.... 3 out of 25 times (and that's being generous) would you consider it viable? It's not viable. It's not that Bio is better (which it is) Mech just has way too many weaknesses a good Protoss can exploit while having so few strengths to make it worth using. The few times we've seen it employed successfully at the pro-Level it has been in timing attack all ins, most of which are only successful due to significant Hellion or Widow Mine damage done due to poor preparation or scouting from the Protoss. That's not viability, that's fluke wins. I am pretty sure for all Korea broadcasted tvp mech game. The win rate is higher than its lose rate. Also don't forget mine drop is one opening for mech and also bio. The fact that the terran chooses mech as a follow up shows mech does have potential. Love to see where you get THAT stat from. I watch more Starcraft than is probably healthy and I think I've seen ONE Mech win in all of that time that wasn't the result of some kind of fluke damage done from Hellions or Widow Mines and I've NEVER seen it successful at the top levels of play. Thing is, when you do that kind of damage it doesn't even matter what you follow it up with. I watch a lot as well. I have seen it works with supernova and maru and wol some terran winning against oz in pl. I don' t really rmb any other than Mvp tried mech in tvp and failed in Korea level. I think you are mistaken for things like if he loses so many probes then it doesn't matter what he used to kill him. The hellion opening is an opening to help transitioning into mech. It's just like mass blueflame hellion runby. These builds are great openings for mech.
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Lol 3 siege tanks, zero shots fired
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That was the worst 2 base blink I have ever seen.. What was he doing in Gumiho's mineral line?
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wow can't believe Gumiho is going to win this
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THIS IS WHERE GUMIHO SHINES?!
Semi-base trade situation on low econ? This is Gumiho's kind of dance.
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Classic with his trademark shit unit control.
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dont think classic could have fucked this game up any harder if he tried ;o
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On January 15 2014 20:55 Shellshock wrote: wow can't believe Gumiho is going to win this
well scv are pretty good when they're blinked on
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On January 15 2014 20:56 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 20:55 Shellshock wrote: wow can't believe Gumiho is going to win this well scv are pretty good when they're blinked on true. I just have no idea what classic was thinking
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I feel classic is playing to gumihos strengths in this game. Gumiho is good at scrappy games and weird situations where good decision on the fly is key. I happy though :p
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On January 15 2014 20:56 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 20:56 sAsImre wrote:On January 15 2014 20:55 Shellshock wrote: wow can't believe Gumiho is going to win this well scv are pretty good when they're blinked on true. I just have no idea what classic was thinking
ima blink and kill this tank im so smart. oh wait... :D
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On January 15 2014 20:56 Waxangel wrote: ahha, there is hope :D
If he does not sweat it that is.
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Yes, Gumi will excel in this position
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Stalkers are so weak. It's unbearable to watch.
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There's our agent of chaos! :D
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Classic should just stick to the zealot storm builds
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On January 15 2014 20:57 PVJ wrote: Stalkers are so weak. It's unbearable to watch.
Or, Marines are so strong, it's unbearable to watch! :D
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lol Classic had a free win, but screwed it up
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Gumibro is coming home for his Nestea award
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On January 15 2014 20:58 Doublemint wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 20:57 PVJ wrote: Stalkers are so weak. It's unbearable to watch. Or, Marines are so strong, it's unbearable to watch! :D
tanks actually for once we can say that
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Gumibear!
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There are actually so many fun games in the current Proleague and GSL series
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I expect Gumiho to take this series. But I'm a believer!
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Classic GOM groups, win first match, lose re-match in deciding match
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GG, 1 more! Gumi can do it, I am sure
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I guess it's nice Gumiho won but that was so bad from Classic.
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On January 15 2014 20:58 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Gumibro is coming home for his Nestea award Poor DrPandaPhD
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wp gumi. I like Protoss, but towel terran forever in my <3
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On January 15 2014 20:59 Dark.Carnival wrote: I guess it's nice Gumiho won but that was so bad from Classic.
well sometimes the best way to win is to convince your opponent to play terrible. Aka the Maru effect :D
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On January 15 2014 21:00 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 20:59 Dark.Carnival wrote: I guess it's nice Gumiho won but that was so bad from Classic. well sometimes the best way to win is to convince your opponent to play terrible. Aka the Maru effect :D
Also the Mvp effect (Squirtle, Tefel, Innovation). (We need to have Mvp discussion in every LR thread).
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On January 15 2014 21:01 Qwerty85 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 21:00 sAsImre wrote:On January 15 2014 20:59 Dark.Carnival wrote: I guess it's nice Gumiho won but that was so bad from Classic. well sometimes the best way to win is to convince your opponent to play terrible. Aka the Maru effect :D Also the Mvp effect (Squirtle, Tefel, Innovation). (We need to have Mvp discussion in every LR thread).
Mvp discussions are the best, do you think he's gonna do well in WCS eu :p ?
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On January 15 2014 20:40 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 20:39 Doublemint wrote:On January 15 2014 20:38 Fjodorov wrote:damnit why does a P have to stand in the way of Gumiho  He will be twice as happy if he wins then! He won't. Classic beat him so convincingly in that last series that I'd be amazed if Gumiho even takes a map in the second series. Don't get me wrong, I'd be thrilled but I just don't see it happening. Hehhehhehe
Gumiho fighting!~
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Stim+Combatshield timing?
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On January 15 2014 21:02 Wintex wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 20:40 Vindicare605 wrote:On January 15 2014 20:39 Doublemint wrote:On January 15 2014 20:38 Fjodorov wrote:damnit why does a P have to stand in the way of Gumiho  He will be twice as happy if he wins then! He won't. Classic beat him so convincingly in that last series that I'd be amazed if Gumiho even takes a map in the second series. Don't get me wrong, I'd be thrilled but I just don't see it happening. Hehhehhehe Gumiho fighting!~ Once Gumi gets rolling, he is unstoppable! gg classic
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i see gumiho has been watching ruffs stream
nvm he made a cc, ruff doesnt do that
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The old WoL 2 rax usually got recator before tech lab. This stim timing is something else!
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On January 15 2014 21:02 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 21:01 Qwerty85 wrote:On January 15 2014 21:00 sAsImre wrote:On January 15 2014 20:59 Dark.Carnival wrote: I guess it's nice Gumiho won but that was so bad from Classic. well sometimes the best way to win is to convince your opponent to play terrible. Aka the Maru effect :D Also the Mvp effect (Squirtle, Tefel, Innovation). (We need to have Mvp discussion in every LR thread). Mvp discussions are the best, do you think he's gonna do well in WCS eu :p ?
I bet he will surprise us with some great mech builds
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i feel like oracle will be good against that... well it needs to be a next lvl throw classic
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Welp, thats over. Next game
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"He's got nothing at home to defend this."
Ok.
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TOP3 control from classic
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woooo:D
edit: thank you for controlling that oracle like a foreigner, classic ^_^
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They should buff oracle speed a little more I feel. :p
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On January 15 2014 21:06 Swiipii wrote: They should buff oracle speed a little more I feel. :p
If the oracle was slower maybe Classic would have more time to react. He basically flew into the marines :D
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On January 15 2014 21:07 Qwerty85 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 21:06 Swiipii wrote: They should buff oracle speed a little more I feel. :p If the oracle was slower maybe Classic would have more time to react. He basically flew into the marines :D
Basically my life when I try and use Oracles in PvT.
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On January 15 2014 21:07 Qwerty85 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 21:06 Swiipii wrote: They should buff oracle speed a little more I feel. :p If the oracle was slower maybe Classic would have more time to react. He basically flew into the marines :D But with more speed he would have got passed them. ^^ Just give them blink already!
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Classic in his comfort zone again
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On January 15 2014 21:08 Swiipii wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 21:07 Qwerty85 wrote:On January 15 2014 21:06 Swiipii wrote: They should buff oracle speed a little more I feel. :p If the oracle was slower maybe Classic would have more time to react. He basically flew into the marines :D But with more speed he would have got passed them. ^^ Just give them blink already!
That is true.
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gumi has a good timing window with his upgrades i think
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On January 15 2014 21:11 Qwerty85 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 21:08 Swiipii wrote:On January 15 2014 21:07 Qwerty85 wrote:On January 15 2014 21:06 Swiipii wrote: They should buff oracle speed a little more I feel. :p If the oracle was slower maybe Classic would have more time to react. He basically flew into the marines :D But with more speed he would have got passed them. ^^ Just give them blink already! That is true. Can't have Oracles without a Vortex and Spawn Archon ability tho
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well needed a better micro
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That .. was .. yup Protossed.
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classic magic trick where you make the bio disappear~
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Pfft, half of Gumiho's army wasn't even stimmed. Sloppy engagement
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how many storms...... ffs
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Like 30 storms that game lol
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On January 15 2014 21:13 sAsImre wrote: well needed a better micro
not really... bank/tech and supply were all in favor of classic. gumi was just too far behind. now even upgrades
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Gumi, don´t lose this to a nervous cheese.
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This 9k is for you gumi! Give him what you got!
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On January 15 2014 21:13 sAsImre wrote: well needed a better micro
He was behind in supply. Not even Maru micro would win that fight.
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gumiho was fighting an uphill battle in the snow with the opening he did. even the failed oracle doesn't matter with that opening
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On January 15 2014 21:14 Doublemint wrote:not really... bank/tech and supply were all in favor of classic. gumi was just too far behind. now even upgrades
he could've win the fight near classic's third with a better micro, that was just so sloppy.
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Wow Go Go Gumiho. complete the runback!
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INC 4 gate or some shenanigans.
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Hahahaaha "Do you think he has a favourite towel?"
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GIVE ME THE TEARS!
DADDYLUS
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On January 15 2014 21:15 Qwerty85 wrote:He was behind in supply. Not even Maru micro would win that fight.
I think he was spread out a bit too much and Classic moved his whole army very well into Gumiho's
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On January 15 2014 21:16 Vindicare605 wrote: INC 4 gate or some shenanigans.
proxy raxes? :D
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On January 15 2014 21:17 Doublemint wrote:proxy raxes? :D
possibly.
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daedalus incoming 2rax maybe? i guess he could just play normal and abuse dropping from the third to the main repeatedly. i expect he's going to do something cheesy because of the short distance and huge open natural
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Would it really be a huge upset if Gumiho wins this? Seeing as he's up for the Nestea award and all.
Might just be me, but I have him in that "can take a series off of anyone" category.
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On January 15 2014 21:17 Dark.Carnival wrote: daedalus incoming 2rax maybe? i guess he could just play normal and abuse dropping from the third to the main repeatedly. i expect he's going to do something cheesy because of the short distance and huge open natural
hellion shenaningans maybe.
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protoss 100% win rate on daedalus this season. what a mistake! although I guess it was only PvZ
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Oh, Wolf is casting. So now Wolfdor is the hardest working archon in the business I guess? Edit: Just tuned in.
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if he's just playing a normal game i'm kinda surprised. classic is kinda good at defending drops and gumiho hasn't shown very good engagements so taking advantage of the open area probably won't work either ;o
wtf gumiho did you seriously try to low ground cc on this map o____________o;
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this is game
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I think it was a good idea to cancel it.
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well low ground cc was kinda ambitious
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On January 15 2014 21:21 sAsImre wrote: well low ground cc was kinda ambitious
yeah lol... especially how well that went in the first series on, I want to say yeonsu?
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On January 15 2014 21:22 Doublemint wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 21:21 sAsImre wrote: well low ground cc was kinda ambitious yeah lol... especially how well that went in the first series on, I want to say yeonsu?
it's just not possible to pull it off if it's scouted imo even if you've a bunker the P just go past it and cancels your cc.
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On January 15 2014 21:22 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 21:22 Doublemint wrote:On January 15 2014 21:21 sAsImre wrote: well low ground cc was kinda ambitious yeah lol... especially how well that went in the first series on, I want to say yeonsu? it's just not possible to pull it off if it's scouted imo even if you've a bunker the P just go past it and cancels your cc.
on a map like daedalus yea... dunno why he would choose a map like this one.
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that was so good... until he suicided those marines
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those hellions were good but then he stims into forcefields and overcharge
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Why attack into sentries and overcharge? WTF?
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Gumiho failing harder than expected.
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hellbats coming i think no reason to get such an early armory /e nvm snd ebay
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"Classic is a masturbater."
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These games make me hate Protoss.
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Classic is kinda playing with Gumi :D
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classic is a master baiter!
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United States97276 Posts
how long was Khaldor waiting to use that one in a cast?
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LOL khaldor... i wonder if that is intentional..
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On January 15 2014 21:26 DJHelium wrote: "Classic is a masturbater."
lol. at least I was not the only one who heard that :p
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Classic is a master baiter. ..heh
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Omg gumihos templar play. Love it.
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khaldor watch your mouth lol
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the 3rd finishing is huge for gumi
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T_T gumi... not looking good
//edit: yay protoss :p
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On January 15 2014 21:26 nunez wrote: classic is a master baiter!
Classic may be a master debator, but Gumiho is a cunning linguist.
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Can't believe Khaldor said that refering to the master baiter comment
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classic cleaning it up, typical master baiter tactics.
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there was like six archons, no he can't hold that lol :3
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Looks like another retirement
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Goodbye Gumiho
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Northern Ireland24814 Posts
Gumiho
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GumiNo
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Game is rigged, yo. ;(
Gumiho gets a seed in my heart any day.
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do the bottom two drop out of GSL? If yes, Gumiho might end up retiring with no team and nothing to play in
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Damn I feel so sorry for Gumiho
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Terran
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Kinda wanted Gumi to win that TT Atleast hope he won't retire, he is such a cool player
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On January 15 2014 21:30 Dark.Carnival wrote:do the bottom two drop out of GSL? If yes, Gumiho might end up retiring with no team and nothing to play in  To the Code B Cave!
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On January 15 2014 21:30 Dark.Carnival wrote:do the bottom two drop out of GSL? If yes, Gumiho might end up retiring with no team and nothing to play in  Yeah it's 2 go to Code S and 2 go back to the qualifiers now
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TT Gumiho  i really really hope that wolf is wrong and this isn't the last we see of gumiho!!
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Gumiho really got master baited there, masturful baiting. You might say Classic beat him off code S.
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nooooo! Storm into archons... yeah pretty good. Gumiho is getting screwed by the state of TvP. He is even trying to be unique and have a style but its doomed to fail. Im depressed
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Wonder what gumi will do now. Such a beast not long ago
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I hope we get some Terrans in the upcoming groups, 1 Terran 8 Protoss and 4 Zergs in Code S atm
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On January 15 2014 21:30 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 21:30 Dark.Carnival wrote:do the bottom two drop out of GSL? If yes, Gumiho might end up retiring with no team and nothing to play in  Yeah it's 2 go to Code S and 2 go back to the qualifiers now
Damn. That's like the definition of brutality.
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On January 15 2014 21:31 NovaMB wrote: I hope we get some Terrans in the upcoming groups, 1 Terran 8 Protoss and 4 Zergs in Code S atm More protoss sounds like good news for maru
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I dont want to jinx it, but i fear for leenock tomorrow.
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I dunno why they had to make MSC such a great offensive and defensive unit. Should have been one or the other.
Too bad for gumiho
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On January 15 2014 21:31 Doublemint wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 21:30 Shellshock wrote:On January 15 2014 21:30 Dark.Carnival wrote:do the bottom two drop out of GSL? If yes, Gumiho might end up retiring with no team and nothing to play in  Yeah it's 2 go to Code S and 2 go back to the qualifiers now Damn. That's like the definition of brutality. yeah it's pretty rough but I guess it's not as bad as before since there are double elim brackets in the qualifiers and there will be more spots open each season
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On January 15 2014 21:31 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 21:31 NovaMB wrote: I hope we get some Terrans in the upcoming groups, 1 Terran 8 Protoss and 4 Zergs in Code S atm More protoss sounds like good news for maru Well I want more Terrans for Dear to eat for breakfast.
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On January 15 2014 21:31 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 21:31 NovaMB wrote: I hope we get some Terrans in the upcoming groups, 1 Terran 8 Protoss and 4 Zergs in Code S atm More protoss sounds like good news for maru
everything is good for him atm.
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On January 15 2014 21:32 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 21:31 Shellshock wrote:On January 15 2014 21:31 NovaMB wrote: I hope we get some Terrans in the upcoming groups, 1 Terran 8 Protoss and 4 Zergs in Code S atm More protoss sounds like good news for maru everything is good for him atm.
Did he play vs Curious anytime recently? I think Curious would eat him alive.
edit: Nope, no games in recent memory. Would be a nice matchup I think!
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On January 15 2014 21:32 NovaMB wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 21:31 Shellshock wrote:On January 15 2014 21:31 NovaMB wrote: I hope we get some Terrans in the upcoming groups, 1 Terran 8 Protoss and 4 Zergs in Code S atm More protoss sounds like good news for maru Well I want more Terrans for Dear to eat for breakfast. Too much Ts and he will end up like Parting, gaining body mass.
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On January 15 2014 21:32 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 21:31 Shellshock wrote:On January 15 2014 21:31 NovaMB wrote: I hope we get some Terrans in the upcoming groups, 1 Terran 8 Protoss and 4 Zergs in Code S atm More protoss sounds like good news for maru everything is good for him atm. yeah. still not totally sold on his TvZ but it's still pretty good. he can beat most zergs but there are a couple he'll definitely struggle against imo
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On January 15 2014 21:31 Fjodorov wrote: nooooo! Storm into archons... yeah pretty good. Gumiho is getting screwed by the state of TvP. He is even trying to be unique and have a style but its doomed to fail. Im depressed
That is probably his biggest problem. I think it is better to play standard than try fancy stuff. Always go for a reaper expand, always put that early bunker up, try to scout for blink or stargate or DT etc.
Protoss is just to strong in early game defense right now. Same thing happened to Flash against Sora when he tried that proxy factory play (even though he almost got back into that game).
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On January 15 2014 21:33 DJHelium wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 21:32 sAsImre wrote:On January 15 2014 21:31 Shellshock wrote:On January 15 2014 21:31 NovaMB wrote: I hope we get some Terrans in the upcoming groups, 1 Terran 8 Protoss and 4 Zergs in Code S atm More protoss sounds like good news for maru everything is good for him atm. Did he play vs Curious anytime recently? I think Curious would eat him alive. They never played in HoTS but Curious leads 7-2 from WoL. doesnt really say anything about the current levels of the players though
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Oh noes Gumiho! I am still your fan.
Classic played so solid. In all of the 4 games he did not even really need colossus to win.
I'd like Flash to be the only Terran in Code S and win it all. + Show Spoiler + Obviously the game would be balanced then.
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3/4 liqqys. Effort can stand in the corner of shame :/
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On January 15 2014 21:32 Talack wrote: I dunno why they had to make MSC such a great offensive and defensive unit. Should have been one or the other.
Too bad for gumiho Definitely. They didn't really need a unit that could do both. But hey, looks like we're stuck with it now.
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On January 15 2014 21:33 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 21:32 sAsImre wrote:On January 15 2014 21:31 Shellshock wrote:On January 15 2014 21:31 NovaMB wrote: I hope we get some Terrans in the upcoming groups, 1 Terran 8 Protoss and 4 Zergs in Code S atm More protoss sounds like good news for maru everything is good for him atm. yeah. still not totally sold on his TvZ but it's still pretty good. he can beat most zergs but there are a couple he'll definitely struggle against imo
yeah especially in bo3, in bo5 he'll have more space to use some cool builds.
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On January 15 2014 21:34 AlternativeEgo wrote: 3/4 liqqys. Effort can stand in the corner of shame :/ Same thing happened to me. Why would I bet on CJ Zergs now that Zealously is Fionn 2.0
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On January 15 2014 21:31 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 21:31 NovaMB wrote: I hope we get some Terrans in the upcoming groups, 1 Terran 8 Protoss and 4 Zergs in Code S atm More protoss sounds like good news for maru
That depends on Dear's current form. But other than that, he can probably kill any other protoss.
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On January 15 2014 21:34 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 21:33 DJHelium wrote:On January 15 2014 21:32 sAsImre wrote:On January 15 2014 21:31 Shellshock wrote:On January 15 2014 21:31 NovaMB wrote: I hope we get some Terrans in the upcoming groups, 1 Terran 8 Protoss and 4 Zergs in Code S atm More protoss sounds like good news for maru everything is good for him atm. Did he play vs Curious anytime recently? I think Curious would eat him alive. They never played in HoTS but Curious leads 7-2 from WoL. doesnt really say anything about the current levels of the players though
Yeah. My reasoning is more that Curious ZvT is friggin insane, and Maru seems, like you said, somewhat weak in that matchup compared to his other ones.
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On January 15 2014 21:35 DJHelium wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 21:34 Shellshock wrote:On January 15 2014 21:33 DJHelium wrote:On January 15 2014 21:32 sAsImre wrote:On January 15 2014 21:31 Shellshock wrote:On January 15 2014 21:31 NovaMB wrote: I hope we get some Terrans in the upcoming groups, 1 Terran 8 Protoss and 4 Zergs in Code S atm More protoss sounds like good news for maru everything is good for him atm. Did he play vs Curious anytime recently? I think Curious would eat him alive. They never played in HoTS but Curious leads 7-2 from WoL. doesnt really say anything about the current levels of the players though Yeah. My reasoning is more that Curious ZvT is friggin insane, and Maru seems, like you said, somewhat weak in that matchup compared to his other ones. He should just all in him with 2 base mech like Mvp
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On January 15 2014 21:36 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 21:35 DJHelium wrote:On January 15 2014 21:34 Shellshock wrote:On January 15 2014 21:33 DJHelium wrote:On January 15 2014 21:32 sAsImre wrote:On January 15 2014 21:31 Shellshock wrote:On January 15 2014 21:31 NovaMB wrote: I hope we get some Terrans in the upcoming groups, 1 Terran 8 Protoss and 4 Zergs in Code S atm More protoss sounds like good news for maru everything is good for him atm. Did he play vs Curious anytime recently? I think Curious would eat him alive. They never played in HoTS but Curious leads 7-2 from WoL. doesnt really say anything about the current levels of the players though Yeah. My reasoning is more that Curious ZvT is friggin insane, and Maru seems, like you said, somewhat weak in that matchup compared to his other ones. He should just all in him with 2 base mech like Mvp
11/11 twice in a row.
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On January 15 2014 21:35 Qwerty85 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 21:31 Shellshock wrote:On January 15 2014 21:31 NovaMB wrote: I hope we get some Terrans in the upcoming groups, 1 Terran 8 Protoss and 4 Zergs in Code S atm More protoss sounds like good news for maru That depends on Dear's current form. But other than that, he can probably kill any other protoss. If Dear reaches his max skill again, i bet DK will consider nerfs for P. He looked really unreal like 2 months ago or so.
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On January 15 2014 21:35 Qwerty85 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 21:31 Shellshock wrote:On January 15 2014 21:31 NovaMB wrote: I hope we get some Terrans in the upcoming groups, 1 Terran 8 Protoss and 4 Zergs in Code S atm More protoss sounds like good news for maru That depends on Dear's current form. But other than that, he can probably kill any other protoss.
elfi could probably take him out.
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On January 15 2014 21:35 DJHelium wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 21:34 Shellshock wrote:On January 15 2014 21:33 DJHelium wrote:On January 15 2014 21:32 sAsImre wrote:On January 15 2014 21:31 Shellshock wrote:On January 15 2014 21:31 NovaMB wrote: I hope we get some Terrans in the upcoming groups, 1 Terran 8 Protoss and 4 Zergs in Code S atm More protoss sounds like good news for maru everything is good for him atm. Did he play vs Curious anytime recently? I think Curious would eat him alive. They never played in HoTS but Curious leads 7-2 from WoL. doesnt really say anything about the current levels of the players though Yeah. My reasoning is more that Curious ZvT is friggin insane, and Maru seems, like you said, somewhat weak in that matchup compared to his other ones.
Maru refuses to build turrets (although I kind of understand him, those are WoL turrets against Hots mutas) and Curious has great muta harass so he could present a problem for Maru. He should play mech should he find himself against Curious.
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On January 15 2014 21:36 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 21:35 DJHelium wrote:On January 15 2014 21:34 Shellshock wrote:On January 15 2014 21:33 DJHelium wrote:On January 15 2014 21:32 sAsImre wrote:On January 15 2014 21:31 Shellshock wrote:On January 15 2014 21:31 NovaMB wrote: I hope we get some Terrans in the upcoming groups, 1 Terran 8 Protoss and 4 Zergs in Code S atm More protoss sounds like good news for maru everything is good for him atm. Did he play vs Curious anytime recently? I think Curious would eat him alive. They never played in HoTS but Curious leads 7-2 from WoL. doesnt really say anything about the current levels of the players though Yeah. My reasoning is more that Curious ZvT is friggin insane, and Maru seems, like you said, somewhat weak in that matchup compared to his other ones. He should just all in him with 2 base mech like Mvp
Or hold off the six pool like vs DongRaeGu
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On January 15 2014 21:37 DJHelium wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 21:35 Qwerty85 wrote:On January 15 2014 21:31 Shellshock wrote:On January 15 2014 21:31 NovaMB wrote: I hope we get some Terrans in the upcoming groups, 1 Terran 8 Protoss and 4 Zergs in Code S atm More protoss sounds like good news for maru That depends on Dear's current form. But other than that, he can probably kill any other protoss. elfi could probably take him out. elfi will have to settle for easy wins vs jjakji
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On January 15 2014 21:38 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 21:37 DJHelium wrote:On January 15 2014 21:35 Qwerty85 wrote:On January 15 2014 21:31 Shellshock wrote:On January 15 2014 21:31 NovaMB wrote: I hope we get some Terrans in the upcoming groups, 1 Terran 8 Protoss and 4 Zergs in Code S atm More protoss sounds like good news for maru That depends on Dear's current form. But other than that, he can probably kill any other protoss. elfi could probably take him out. elfi will have to settle for easy wins vs jjakji
No shame in losing to elfi! I'm not even mad.
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On January 15 2014 21:36 gingerfluffmuff wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 21:35 Qwerty85 wrote:On January 15 2014 21:31 Shellshock wrote:On January 15 2014 21:31 NovaMB wrote: I hope we get some Terrans in the upcoming groups, 1 Terran 8 Protoss and 4 Zergs in Code S atm More protoss sounds like good news for maru That depends on Dear's current form. But other than that, he can probably kill any other protoss. If Dear reaches his max skill again, i bet DK will consider nerfs for P. He looked really unreal like 2 months ago or so.
i really hoped it doesn't work that way i've 0 pbm with a player raping everyone as long as he's alone.
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On January 15 2014 21:35 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 21:34 AlternativeEgo wrote: 3/4 liqqys. Effort can stand in the corner of shame :/ Same thing happened to me. Why would I bet on CJ Zergs now that Zealously is Fionn 2.0 
Yeah that guy should just shut his mouth. Nothing good ever comes out of it. And by mouth I obviously mean fingering keyboard.
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On January 15 2014 21:38 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 21:36 gingerfluffmuff wrote:On January 15 2014 21:35 Qwerty85 wrote:On January 15 2014 21:31 Shellshock wrote:On January 15 2014 21:31 NovaMB wrote: I hope we get some Terrans in the upcoming groups, 1 Terran 8 Protoss and 4 Zergs in Code S atm More protoss sounds like good news for maru That depends on Dear's current form. But other than that, he can probably kill any other protoss. If Dear reaches his max skill again, i bet DK will consider nerfs for P. He looked really unreal like 2 months ago or so. i really hoped it doesn't work that way i've 0 pbm with a player raping everyone as long as he's alone. Chances are good he wont be alone, the KR top P lineup looks great imo. Code S is going to be amazing.
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On January 15 2014 21:41 gingerfluffmuff wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 21:38 sAsImre wrote:On January 15 2014 21:36 gingerfluffmuff wrote:On January 15 2014 21:35 Qwerty85 wrote:On January 15 2014 21:31 Shellshock wrote:On January 15 2014 21:31 NovaMB wrote: I hope we get some Terrans in the upcoming groups, 1 Terran 8 Protoss and 4 Zergs in Code S atm More protoss sounds like good news for maru That depends on Dear's current form. But other than that, he can probably kill any other protoss. If Dear reaches his max skill again, i bet DK will consider nerfs for P. He looked really unreal like 2 months ago or so. i really hoped it doesn't work that way i've 0 pbm with a player raping everyone as long as he's alone. Chances are good he wont be alone, the KR top P lineup looks great imo. Code S is going to be amazing.
well when he's on top he's really a level above everyone, like maru in PL atm. as long as numerous random mid tier P don't become amazing everything is alright
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On January 15 2014 21:35 DJHelium wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 21:34 Shellshock wrote:On January 15 2014 21:33 DJHelium wrote:On January 15 2014 21:32 sAsImre wrote:On January 15 2014 21:31 Shellshock wrote:On January 15 2014 21:31 NovaMB wrote: I hope we get some Terrans in the upcoming groups, 1 Terran 8 Protoss and 4 Zergs in Code S atm More protoss sounds like good news for maru everything is good for him atm. Did he play vs Curious anytime recently? I think Curious would eat him alive. They never played in HoTS but Curious leads 7-2 from WoL. doesnt really say anything about the current levels of the players though Yeah. My reasoning is more that Curious ZvT is friggin insane, and Maru seems, like you said, somewhat weak in that matchup compared to his other ones. if mvp can beat curious then maru surely can too, right? curious is kinda up/down lately anyway
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Sad to miss this with the unwatchable vods
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On January 15 2014 21:42 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 21:35 DJHelium wrote:On January 15 2014 21:34 Shellshock wrote:On January 15 2014 21:33 DJHelium wrote:On January 15 2014 21:32 sAsImre wrote:On January 15 2014 21:31 Shellshock wrote:On January 15 2014 21:31 NovaMB wrote: I hope we get some Terrans in the upcoming groups, 1 Terran 8 Protoss and 4 Zergs in Code S atm More protoss sounds like good news for maru everything is good for him atm. Did he play vs Curious anytime recently? I think Curious would eat him alive. They never played in HoTS but Curious leads 7-2 from WoL. doesnt really say anything about the current levels of the players though Yeah. My reasoning is more that Curious ZvT is friggin insane, and Maru seems, like you said, somewhat weak in that matchup compared to his other ones. if mvp can beat curious then maru surely can too, right? curious is kinda up/down lately anyway
Mvp played great mech in that games, Curious is a monster against bio with his muta control.. If Maru plays mech he has great chances, if he plays bio..it will be close.
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Woo, well done sOs and Classic!
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betting on all the Protoss in liquibet is working out well so far. Didn't work out all that well in FPL though.
Also thanks again Shellshock for the LR
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On January 15 2014 21:42 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 21:35 DJHelium wrote:On January 15 2014 21:34 Shellshock wrote:On January 15 2014 21:33 DJHelium wrote:On January 15 2014 21:32 sAsImre wrote:On January 15 2014 21:31 Shellshock wrote:On January 15 2014 21:31 NovaMB wrote: I hope we get some Terrans in the upcoming groups, 1 Terran 8 Protoss and 4 Zergs in Code S atm More protoss sounds like good news for maru everything is good for him atm. Did he play vs Curious anytime recently? I think Curious would eat him alive. They never played in HoTS but Curious leads 7-2 from WoL. doesnt really say anything about the current levels of the players though Yeah. My reasoning is more that Curious ZvT is friggin insane, and Maru seems, like you said, somewhat weak in that matchup compared to his other ones. if mvp can beat curious then maru surely can too, right? curious is kinda up/down lately anyway
Of course Maru can, but I say Curious is favored. He has 73% game win rate against koreans during the last 6 months in ZvT, including a great series vs Innovation. He's insanely strong in ZvT!
http://www.aligulac.com/players/16/results/?after=2013-06-01&before=&race=t&country=KR&bestof=all&offline=both&game=all&op=Filter
For comparision, Maru has 61% game win rate (71% in matches though) during the same time period.
http://www.aligulac.com/players/49/results/?after=2013-06-01&before=&race=z&country=KR&bestof=all&offline=both&game=all&op=Filter
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eh i think bogus' tvz isn't that super strong anymore, but yeah curious is solid
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On January 15 2014 21:51 opterown wrote: eh i think bogus' tvz isn't that super strong anymore, but yeah curious is solid
it was before the mine nerf iirc when bogus was still super good at the mu
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Dear has never really been on a higher plane for me, or at least not one that separates him from an in-form Rain.
My Code S excitement builds, although I hope the distribution evens out a bit
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On January 15 2014 21:53 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 21:51 opterown wrote: eh i think bogus' tvz isn't that super strong anymore, but yeah curious is solid it was before the mine nerf iirc when bogus was still super good at the mu
Yeah, this was during Innovation's TvZ dominance.
Check out the match if you haven't seen it opterown, it's highly entertaining!
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On January 15 2014 21:55 DJHelium wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 21:53 sAsImre wrote:On January 15 2014 21:51 opterown wrote: eh i think bogus' tvz isn't that super strong anymore, but yeah curious is solid it was before the mine nerf iirc when bogus was still super good at the mu Yeah, this was during Innovation's TvZ dominance. Check out the match if you haven't seen it opterown, it's highly entertaining!
you can skip the 3rd game tho...
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On January 15 2014 21:55 DJHelium wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 21:53 sAsImre wrote:On January 15 2014 21:51 opterown wrote: eh i think bogus' tvz isn't that super strong anymore, but yeah curious is solid it was before the mine nerf iirc when bogus was still super good at the mu Yeah, this was during Innovation's TvZ dominance. Check out the match if you haven't seen it opterown, it's highly entertaining! i saw it live, it was quite a series, dw
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On January 15 2014 21:56 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 21:55 DJHelium wrote:On January 15 2014 21:53 sAsImre wrote:On January 15 2014 21:51 opterown wrote: eh i think bogus' tvz isn't that super strong anymore, but yeah curious is solid it was before the mine nerf iirc when bogus was still super good at the mu Yeah, this was during Innovation's TvZ dominance. Check out the match if you haven't seen it opterown, it's highly entertaining! i saw it live, it was quite a series, dw
Ok good! We probably shared the LR thread then! 
Regarding race balance in code s, I too would love some more terrans. It's sad that the only terran other than Maru strong enough to qualify moved to Switzerland.
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On January 15 2014 21:57 DJHelium wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 21:56 opterown wrote:On January 15 2014 21:55 DJHelium wrote:On January 15 2014 21:53 sAsImre wrote:On January 15 2014 21:51 opterown wrote: eh i think bogus' tvz isn't that super strong anymore, but yeah curious is solid it was before the mine nerf iirc when bogus was still super good at the mu Yeah, this was during Innovation's TvZ dominance. Check out the match if you haven't seen it opterown, it's highly entertaining! i saw it live, it was quite a series, dw Ok good! We probably shared the LR thread then!  Regarding race balance in code s, I too would love some more terrans. It's sad that the only terran other than Maru strong enough to qualify moved to Switzerland.
where is bogus ?
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nooo gumibear didn't advance ;_; and noooooo i need to buy a subscription to watch the vods ;_;
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On January 15 2014 21:59 Undead1993 wrote: nooo gumibear didn't advance ;_; and noooooo i need to buy a subscription to watch the vods ;_; If you are a GuMiho fan I don't think you're missing out on much worth watching today :/
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On January 15 2014 21:58 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 21:57 DJHelium wrote:On January 15 2014 21:56 opterown wrote:On January 15 2014 21:55 DJHelium wrote:On January 15 2014 21:53 sAsImre wrote:On January 15 2014 21:51 opterown wrote: eh i think bogus' tvz isn't that super strong anymore, but yeah curious is solid it was before the mine nerf iirc when bogus was still super good at the mu Yeah, this was during Innovation's TvZ dominance. Check out the match if you haven't seen it opterown, it's highly entertaining! i saw it live, it was quite a series, dw Ok good! We probably shared the LR thread then!  Regarding race balance in code s, I too would love some more terrans. It's sad that the only terran other than Maru strong enough to qualify moved to Switzerland. where is bogus ?
In Group G, so he might still qualify. I'm just fanboying.
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On January 15 2014 22:00 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 21:59 Undead1993 wrote: nooo gumibear didn't advance ;_; and noooooo i need to buy a subscription to watch the vods ;_; If you are a GuMiho fan I don't think you're missing out on much worth watching today :/ but i read that this 3rd game of ruin vs sleep was epic as hell and has so many 5 stars and now i want to know waht happened so badly
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On January 15 2014 22:01 Undead1993 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 22:00 Shellshock wrote:On January 15 2014 21:59 Undead1993 wrote: nooo gumibear didn't advance ;_; and noooooo i need to buy a subscription to watch the vods ;_; If you are a GuMiho fan I don't think you're missing out on much worth watching today :/ but i read that this 3rd game of ruin vs sleep was epic as hell and has so many 5 stars and now i want to know waht happened so badly
:D
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On January 15 2014 22:01 Undead1993 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 22:00 Shellshock wrote:On January 15 2014 21:59 Undead1993 wrote: nooo gumibear didn't advance ;_; and noooooo i need to buy a subscription to watch the vods ;_; If you are a GuMiho fan I don't think you're missing out on much worth watching today :/ but i read that this 3rd game of ruin vs sleep was epic as hell and has so many 5 stars and now i want to know waht happened so badly http://i.imgur.com/HF8K4vX.jpg http://imgur.com/OGIGHvs with a 1 base blink follow up to finish him off
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On January 15 2014 22:03 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 22:01 Undead1993 wrote:On January 15 2014 22:00 Shellshock wrote:On January 15 2014 21:59 Undead1993 wrote: nooo gumibear didn't advance ;_; and noooooo i need to buy a subscription to watch the vods ;_; If you are a GuMiho fan I don't think you're missing out on much worth watching today :/ but i read that this 3rd game of ruin vs sleep was epic as hell and has so many 5 stars and now i want to know waht happened so badly http://i.imgur.com/HF8K4vX.jpghttp://imgur.com/OGIGHvswith a 1 base blink follow up to finish him off
On January 15 2014 22:03 DJHelium wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 22:01 Undead1993 wrote:On January 15 2014 22:00 Shellshock wrote:On January 15 2014 21:59 Undead1993 wrote: nooo gumibear didn't advance ;_; and noooooo i need to buy a subscription to watch the vods ;_; If you are a GuMiho fan I don't think you're missing out on much worth watching today :/ but i read that this 3rd game of ruin vs sleep was epic as hell and has so many 5 stars and now i want to know waht happened so badly :D + Show Spoiler + love you <3
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On January 15 2014 22:08 Undead1993 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 22:03 Shellshock wrote:On January 15 2014 22:01 Undead1993 wrote:On January 15 2014 22:00 Shellshock wrote:On January 15 2014 21:59 Undead1993 wrote: nooo gumibear didn't advance ;_; and noooooo i need to buy a subscription to watch the vods ;_; If you are a GuMiho fan I don't think you're missing out on much worth watching today :/ but i read that this 3rd game of ruin vs sleep was epic as hell and has so many 5 stars and now i want to know waht happened so badly http://i.imgur.com/HF8K4vX.jpghttp://imgur.com/OGIGHvswith a 1 base blink follow up to finish him off Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 22:03 DJHelium wrote:On January 15 2014 22:01 Undead1993 wrote:On January 15 2014 22:00 Shellshock wrote:On January 15 2014 21:59 Undead1993 wrote: nooo gumibear didn't advance ;_; and noooooo i need to buy a subscription to watch the vods ;_; If you are a GuMiho fan I don't think you're missing out on much worth watching today :/ but i read that this 3rd game of ruin vs sleep was epic as hell and has so many 5 stars and now i want to know waht happened so badly :D + Show Spoiler + love you <3 Holy crap that is sick 0.0!!!!!!!!!
Antoher reason to get rid of that poor joke xP
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I hate sOs... Destroy my FPL team but 4-0 his individual league? Selfish bastard -_-
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Mothership core and photon overcharge kills GuMiho's career . GuMiho, I love you and if you retire, I hope you have the brightest of future. You're hell of a Terran player.
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Twitch won't let me watch the vod despite my 2014 ticket. It even tells me i have a subscription but it wants me to buy a monthy subscription as soon as i click on the vod. Anyone else ?
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it looks like the GSL light ticket has no vod access
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On January 15 2014 23:18 Kala23 wrote: it looks like the GSL light ticket has no vod access try to contact the service on gomtv.net or on twitch.tv
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On January 15 2014 23:18 Kala23 wrote: it looks like the GSL light ticket has no vod access On January 15 2014 23:23 Undead1993 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 23:18 Kala23 wrote: it looks like the GSL light ticket has no vod access try to contact the service on gomtv.net or on twitch.tv Same here. Today I did the following: Watched live stream, clicked on SOUCE as quality, knowing this would bring me to the site where I can comfortly buy a ticket. It wrote "get a YEARLY Ticket for 19.99" Thought YEAH!!! Bought it for 19.99 After I bought it, it wrot: Valiable through Jan-April Thinking process "WTF YEARLY TICKET FOR 3 Months?? Are u f**ing kidding me?"
After I calmed down, wanted to watch Code A games from earlier. Clicked on the VOD, below the VOD it was marked as "Subscribed", but instead of the VOD it showed me that I can subscribe for 19.99 (the yearly ticket).
Always hated Twitch, especially because it never runs smooth when i find the time (1-2x a month) to watch live, now I cannot even watch for what I've paid?
Let us know what support said, if they don't react at all, I wanna have my money back. I am also eager to know, what they mean with their "yearly ticket now only for 19.99" and after you buy it you find out its just for 3 months...
btw I also stated this earlier today: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=440895¤tpage=10#199
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On January 16 2014 00:03 Rollora wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 23:18 Kala23 wrote: it looks like the GSL light ticket has no vod access Show nested quote +On January 15 2014 23:23 Undead1993 wrote:On January 15 2014 23:18 Kala23 wrote: it looks like the GSL light ticket has no vod access try to contact the service on gomtv.net or on twitch.tv Same here. Today I did the following: Watched live stream, clicked on SOUCE as quality, knowing this would bring me to the site where I can comfortly buy a ticket. It wrote "get a YEARLY Ticket for 19.99" Thought YEAH!!! Bought it for 19.99 After I bought it, it wrot: Valiable through Jan-April Thinking process "WTF YEARLY TICKET FOR 3 Months?? Are u f**ing kidding me?" After I calmed down, wanted to watch Code A games from earlier. Clicked on the VOD, below the VOD it was marked as "Subscribed", but instead of the VOD it showed me that I can subscribe for 19.99 (the yearly ticket). Always hated Twitch, especially because it never runs smooth when i find the time (1-2x a month) to watch live, now I cannot even watch for what I've paid? Let us know what support said, if they don't react at all, I wanna have my money back. I am also eager to know, what they mean with their "yearly ticket now only for 19.99" and after you buy it you find out its just for 3 months...
The 19.99 is only for season 1, the yearly sub is $54.99 and the Premium Yearly sub is 89.99. But don't worry, I paid the 55.99 during the Hot6ix Cup and apparently I can't even watch the VoDs either? Even though in the description of the payment you're supposed to have access to "live and VODS" and is shows I have a silver badge. This is frustrating.
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Classic is a masturbator.
Good job Sauce!!!
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I'm curious how a classic sOs signal led to ruin in this case. Also, Ruin vs Sleep, can I find VODs?
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On January 16 2014 00:06 ArTiFaKs wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2014 00:03 Rollora wrote:On January 15 2014 23:18 Kala23 wrote: it looks like the GSL light ticket has no vod access On January 15 2014 23:23 Undead1993 wrote:On January 15 2014 23:18 Kala23 wrote: it looks like the GSL light ticket has no vod access try to contact the service on gomtv.net or on twitch.tv Same here. Today I did the following: Watched live stream, clicked on SOUCE as quality, knowing this would bring me to the site where I can comfortly buy a ticket. It wrote "get a YEARLY Ticket for 19.99" Thought YEAH!!! Bought it for 19.99 After I bought it, it wrot: Valiable through Jan-April Thinking process "WTF YEARLY TICKET FOR 3 Months?? Are u f**ing kidding me?" After I calmed down, wanted to watch Code A games from earlier. Clicked on the VOD, below the VOD it was marked as "Subscribed", but instead of the VOD it showed me that I can subscribe for 19.99 (the yearly ticket). Always hated Twitch, especially because it never runs smooth when i find the time (1-2x a month) to watch live, now I cannot even watch for what I've paid? Let us know what support said, if they don't react at all, I wanna have my money back. I am also eager to know, what they mean with their "yearly ticket now only for 19.99" and after you buy it you find out its just for 3 months... The 19.99 is only for season 1, the yearly sub is $54.99 and the Premium Yearly sub is 89.99. But don't worry, I paid the 55.99 during the Hot6ix Cup and apparently I can't even watch the VoDs either? Even though in the description of the payment you're supposed to have access to "live and VODS" and is shows I have a silver badge. This is frustrating. Thx. I got told to read more exactly next time. But i didn't know, what I should read more exactly when I click on the button "2014 Yearly ticket for 2014" then immidiately I got to pay the 19.99 and AFTER that it showed me, that this ticket is from Jan-Apr
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Why are the vods not working? I paid the 20 dollars, it says im subscribed, and yet it is still giving me the message that I need to subscribe...
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Apparently gom is having some issues with twitch's vod system atm. I am seriously pissed as I wanted to watch the vods of the earlier group right after waking up (while the 2nd group was still running) as that is one of the few advantages of twitch vods. I miss gomtv vods more and more every day.
The best part is that if you have subed for this season it tells you to sub, then you click on sub, it then tells you that you have subbed and links you back to the gsl page which tells you to sub.
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i do have the same problem with the subscription. i bought and early bird ticket during the hot 6 cup too. i knew they would screw up with twitch. the old gomtv page was awesome. the vod overview was way better and stuff like that. if i now click the vods it says that i should suscribe for 19,99 bucks.... serious ?... i hope they fix that soon
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On January 16 2014 00:15 ThePrince wrote: Classic is a masturbator.
Good job Sauce!!! After his games, maybe Classic went home "opening up a bottle of champaign"?
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On January 16 2014 00:27 kugel wrote: i do have the same problem with the subscription. i bought and early bird ticket during the hot 6 cup too. i knew they would screw up with twitch. the old gomtv page was awesome. the vod overview was way better and stuff like that. if i now click the vods it says that i should suscribe for 19,99 bucks.... serious ?... i hope they fix that soon
Ya it seems everyone is having that problem so far, it's really quite frustrating. Everyone should just email support@gomtv.net to make sure they handle this as fast as possible!
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On January 16 2014 00:25 Maghetti wrote: Why are the vods not working? I paid the 20 dollars, it says im subscribed, and yet it is still giving me the message that I need to subscribe... Same Prob here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=440895¤tpage=40#789 and the colleague in the next post. Mentioned this some times before, like here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=440895¤tpage=9#173
Also I really feel cheated, because of t he "2014 Yearly ticket for only 19.99 now" f*cking yearly ticket, right, why do they even write that shit? I clicked, I payed without reading further (who would think a big site as twitch does such dirty tricks), and then got the info that its only from jan-apr. I am really pissed. PLUS I cannot watch VODs. On January 16 2014 00:25 Lorch wrote: Apparently gom is having some issues with twitch's vod system atm. I am seriously pissed as I wanted to watch the vods of the earlier group right after waking up (while the 2nd group was still running) as that is one of the few advantages of twitch vods. I miss gomtv vods more and more every day.
The best part is that if you have subed for this season it tells you to sub, then you click on sub, it then tells you that you have subbed and links you back to the gsl page which tells you to sub. yeah exactly. And this freaking misguiding "Year ticket" that made me sub a 3 month ticket... Dunno if I should call myself stupid or them freaking jerks
On January 16 2014 00:31 ArTiFaKs wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2014 00:27 kugel wrote: i do have the same problem with the subscription. i bought and early bird ticket during the hot 6 cup too. i knew they would screw up with twitch. the old gomtv page was awesome. the vod overview was way better and stuff like that. if i now click the vods it says that i should suscribe for 19,99 bucks.... serious ?... i hope they fix that soon Ya it seems everyone is having that problem so far, it's really quite frustrating. Everyone should just email support@gomtv.net to make sure they handle this as fast as possible! Will do JUST that, and also send them the screenshots that show "Yearly ticket for 19.99", even if it was my fault that I trusted them almost blindly I feel robbed and want an apology
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why is gom doing this via twitch.tv now? What was wrong with releasing the VOD's on the gomtv.net website? I never had too many issues outside of the occasional bugged game.
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On January 16 2014 01:45 dutchfriese wrote: why is gom doing this via twitch.tv now? What was wrong with releasing the VOD's on the gomtv.net website? I never had too many issues outside of the occasional bugged game.
It's probably way cheaper to do via twitch I guess. Personally I would pay double for getting back to gomtv vod system right now...
It's like 6ish hours now since the broadcast ended and there are still no VODs available....
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Oh come on what the fuck did I pay for now if vods are on youtube for free? I am seriously getting upset here.
Lol its only the first set of each match, I guess this is the free part similiar to the old gomtv system (first set has always been free). Well I guess 20 minutes are still better than 0.
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Does anyone know if full vod will be available for the ones who paid for it?
Only match 1 of every set on youtubes
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On January 16 2014 02:08 Lorch wrote: Oh come on what the fuck did I pay for now if vods are on youtube for free? I am seriously getting upset here.
Lol its only the first set of each match, I guess this is the free part similiar to the old gomtv system (first set has always been free). Well I guess 20 minutes are still better than 0. From my understanding, all VODs will be free after one or two weeks of the broadcast. Still a crappy system if you ask me.
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heart-breaking to see GuMiho fall like this 
he has Boxer-esque creativity, but sc2 has zero room for creativity in tvp.
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On January 16 2014 04:04 SHODAN wrote:heart-breaking to see GuMiho fall like this  he has Boxer-esque creativity, but sc2 has zero room for creativity in tvp. Zero? Lol.
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Nice showing from my boy SoS.
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On January 16 2014 04:36 Zenbrez wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2014 04:04 SHODAN wrote:heart-breaking to see GuMiho fall like this  he has Boxer-esque creativity, but sc2 has zero room for creativity in tvp. Zero? Lol. There's lots of creativity in that matchups! It all comes from one side, but the creativity is there! (Especially considering sOs :D)
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All game 1's... Where are game 2 and 3 of the best of 3? lol
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On January 17 2014 04:47 NKexquisite wrote:All game 1's... Where are game 2 and 3 of the best of 3? lol On twitch behind paywall
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On January 17 2014 04:48 NovaMB wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2014 04:47 NKexquisite wrote:All game 1's... Where are game 2 and 3 of the best of 3? lol On twitch behind paywall
Ack, that doesn't really make sense. When you pay on twitch, it auto-subscribes you to their YouTube channel... I would have thought with the Subscription to their youtube channel you could watch them there...
I guess when they link your twitch account to your YouTube account that doesn't do anything...
I knew this was going to be stupid as hell.
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