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Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
January 13 2014 12:11 GMT
#421
yeah games like these is what causes a lot of frustration because, even though there are always things you can do better, you really do feel powerless. Anyways, lets hope for a good game here in the ace
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
January 13 2014 12:12 GMT
#422
On January 13 2014 21:08 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2014 21:04 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On January 13 2014 21:00 MajOr wrote:
On January 13 2014 20:59 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On January 13 2014 20:58 sAsImre wrote:
On January 13 2014 20:57 MajOr wrote:
this is why tvp is stupid scout blink > gotta go 3rax toss < fake blink transition > terran have factory 2 slow and this happens but if u dont make 3rax mass unit and they blink all in you die. its mostly cuz maps tough still dumb


any tips against that? he scouted the robo bay so maybe two basing a lot and go for a yolo pull ?


Maybe scanning the natural for probe count? Super never stopped probe production but you would do that with an all in. I dunno how to terran

no they can still all in bstalker with 4gas cuz theres the variation of sentry +bstalker (maru vs zest on yeonsu) reason maru hold that again is cuz he he went 3barrack before factory if zest didnt commit to all in and did that sper just did same thing woulda happened


I see... so in other words, what terran really needs is a better scouting tool to figure out what's behind the stalkers/mothership core to figure out what exactly protoss is doing? I've been thinking that for a while now


Or make blink-ins easier to hold so terrans don't have to play super safe with lots of bunkers (you need 4 on a lot of the maps, 2 in front of natural and 2 in main). time warp on the ramp makes terrans have to split their units so that is why you need bunkers. If no time warp, the terran could have his army near the ramp and be ready to defend both nature and the main with just 2 bunkers (1 in natural and 1 in main)


I guess you could also blame maps for it. It's the same way in PvP, maps that aren't blink favored make it a lot easier to avoid coinflips. Blink is one of those things in PvP that just shits on others really hard if the map allows it. I loved Whirlwind/Daybreak type maps
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
January 13 2014 12:12 GMT
#423
what were the longest streaks last season in hots PL?
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
January 13 2014 12:13 GMT
#424
Maru please crush him so hard, he loses the next 5 games too.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
January 13 2014 12:13 GMT
#425
til drg was bad as ace in gstl
yo
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44297 Posts
January 13 2014 12:13 GMT
#426
On January 13 2014 21:07 Destructicon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2014 21:04 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On January 13 2014 21:00 MajOr wrote:
On January 13 2014 20:59 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On January 13 2014 20:58 sAsImre wrote:
On January 13 2014 20:57 MajOr wrote:
this is why tvp is stupid scout blink > gotta go 3rax toss < fake blink transition > terran have factory 2 slow and this happens but if u dont make 3rax mass unit and they blink all in you die. its mostly cuz maps tough still dumb


any tips against that? he scouted the robo bay so maybe two basing a lot and go for a yolo pull ?


Maybe scanning the natural for probe count? Super never stopped probe production but you would do that with an all in. I dunno how to terran

no they can still all in bstalker with 4gas cuz theres the variation of sentry +bstalker (maru vs zest on yeonsu) reason maru hold that again is cuz he he went 3barrack before factory if zest didnt commit to all in and did that sper just did same thing woulda happened


I see... so in other words, what terran really needs is a better scouting tool to figure out what's behind the stalkers/mothership core to figure out what exactly protoss is doing? I've been thinking that for a while now


Two answers, either terran needs stronger ways to punish toss in the form of pressures and all-ins that can actually do harm, or toss needs some of its versatility to be toned down. There should be some sort of downside for investing into an all-in and not committing to it, and it should be punishable.

if terran COULD punish protoss .. that would be nice .. nah reducing versitility of protoss is not good

if terran could punish protoss they stupid things like this it would be nice .. so that we don't see them a-moving like what happened where terran has no fighting chance due to lack of appropriate units.
this is a quote
Glorfindel!
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1815 Posts
January 13 2014 12:13 GMT
#427
On January 13 2014 21:12 opterown wrote:
what were the longest streaks last season in hots PL?

Innovation vs Zergs
Or PvP.
Or Flash Winning - KT Loosing and Visa Versa.
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/598681/1/Glorfindel/ladder/161337#current-rank
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
January 13 2014 12:13 GMT
#428
On January 13 2014 21:12 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2014 21:08 vthree wrote:
On January 13 2014 21:04 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On January 13 2014 21:00 MajOr wrote:
On January 13 2014 20:59 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On January 13 2014 20:58 sAsImre wrote:
On January 13 2014 20:57 MajOr wrote:
this is why tvp is stupid scout blink > gotta go 3rax toss < fake blink transition > terran have factory 2 slow and this happens but if u dont make 3rax mass unit and they blink all in you die. its mostly cuz maps tough still dumb


any tips against that? he scouted the robo bay so maybe two basing a lot and go for a yolo pull ?


Maybe scanning the natural for probe count? Super never stopped probe production but you would do that with an all in. I dunno how to terran

no they can still all in bstalker with 4gas cuz theres the variation of sentry +bstalker (maru vs zest on yeonsu) reason maru hold that again is cuz he he went 3barrack before factory if zest didnt commit to all in and did that sper just did same thing woulda happened


I see... so in other words, what terran really needs is a better scouting tool to figure out what's behind the stalkers/mothership core to figure out what exactly protoss is doing? I've been thinking that for a while now


Or make blink-ins easier to hold so terrans don't have to play super safe with lots of bunkers (you need 4 on a lot of the maps, 2 in front of natural and 2 in main). time warp on the ramp makes terrans have to split their units so that is why you need bunkers. If no time warp, the terran could have his army near the ramp and be ready to defend both nature and the main with just 2 bunkers (1 in natural and 1 in main)


I guess you could also blame maps for it. It's the same way in PvP, maps that aren't blink favored make it a lot easier to avoid coinflips. Blink is one of those things in PvP that just shits on others really hard if the map allows it. I loved Whirlwind/Daybreak type maps


Yeah but, making less maps that are blink-able isn't the solution either, that sort of architecture is another of those issues that limits map making a lot. The core of the issue should be addressed first.
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
Pangpootata
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1838 Posts
January 13 2014 12:13 GMT
#429
On January 13 2014 21:12 opterown wrote:
what were the longest streaks last season in hots PL?

Stork 11 game losing streak
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 13 2014 12:14 GMT
#430
On January 13 2014 21:13 Pangpootata wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2014 21:12 opterown wrote:
what were the longest streaks last season in hots PL?

Stork 11 game losing streak

sOs has his eyes set on glory
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
January 13 2014 12:14 GMT
#431
On January 13 2014 21:13 Pangpootata wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2014 21:12 opterown wrote:
what were the longest streaks last season in hots PL?

Stork 11 game losing streak



badum tshhhhh :D
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 13 2014 12:15 GMT
#432
LOL
Super proxy stargaterrrr
GO MARU, Make those marines
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m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
January 13 2014 12:15 GMT
#433
On January 13 2014 21:08 MajOr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2014 21:05 m0ck wrote:
Cure started 2/2, stopping viking production, and then needlessly fought the battle too early at his scv-less third..

he had 2 medivacs 2 vikings cuz he had to cut factory too long cuz u dont know if its allin he has to start 2-2 cuz u can still take a 3rd and be out in the map as protoss and if u cut that and they hapen to keep upgrading and take a nexus ur dead.

how is terran supposed to know all this info? u can scan the 3rd but they still can be transitioning into templar after 3 collosus and upgrades and u cant really know unless u scan the 3bases at same time lol its just bad game design it cant be fair terra nhas 2 medivacs and 2 vikings vs 3 collosuss and cant even know if its all in or not :[

Yeah, Im not denying its a tough spot, but Cure did make the wrong read/reaction
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-13 12:17:05
January 13 2014 12:15 GMT
#434
On January 13 2014 21:13 Killmouse wrote:
til drg was bad as ace in gstl


Would like to see the stats on that too. Maybe not in 2011-2012 but after that, maybe :D

Edit: oh wait, GSTL had no ace match of course
tar
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany991 Posts
January 13 2014 12:16 GMT
#435
maru ...nooooo
whoever I pick for my anti team turns gosu
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
January 13 2014 12:16 GMT
#436
Nice, the game isn't over to a random unscouted proxy.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
tar
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany991 Posts
January 13 2014 12:16 GMT
#437
that could have gotten much worse. puh...
whoever I pick for my anti team turns gosu
sashkata
Profile Joined September 2008
Bulgaria3241 Posts
January 13 2014 12:16 GMT
#438
I though his keyboard broke. lol
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
January 13 2014 12:16 GMT
#439
slight mismicro by super, could have been gg :'(
Zest fanboy.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
January 13 2014 12:17 GMT
#440
looks like longest win-streaks were 8 games last season by rain, flash, bogus
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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