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Part 1:
http://www.twitch.tv/tbatz/b/491092566
Part 2:
http://www.twitch.tv/tbatz/b/491126698
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Deimos_Esports_$150_2v2_Invitational
Hello all,
Deimos Esports will be holding a 2v2 invitational tournament on Dec 29th 1pm est start time. It will be streamed on Deimos Esports twitch channel. This is our first tournament, and we plan to continue to hold these with bigger prize pools!
This will be all Bo3's Single elimination until the finals, which will be a Bo5.
http://challonge.com/DeimosEsports2v2
For bo3's, both teams will veto two maps, first map picked by team to first veto, then losers pick. Bo5, same thing.
Meet in Channel "Deimos 2v2"
1st place: $80
2nd place: $40
3rd place: $30
Teams:
1. [Deimos]KoMA/[Deimos]Drunkenboi
2. [Deimos]Guitarcheese/[Deimos]Night
3. [Core]JonSnow/[Core]Sonic
4. [Deimos]Bails/[Deimos]Siphonn
5. [CoL]hendralisk/[ROOT]Masa
6. [CG]Kontinue/[CoL]KawikaAkira
7. [KLG]JimRising/[T2P]Moros
8. [TtSYF]Hitman/[TtSYF]Fighto
9. [Deimos]Pluto/[fLc]PsychO
10. [CG]Elhaym/[CG]Reborn
11. [Grav]Zen/[Grav]Traceuser
12. [CG]Bop/[CG]Paperboat
13. [GinR]Mykal/[GinR]Reaver,
14. [OD]Val/[OD]WhatAmI
15. [Grav]Semper /[Grav]Debaser
16. [OD]OneAKing/[OD]Phil
Casters/Streamers:
Tbatz/Techno twitch.tv/Tbatz
The map pool is going to be: Geosync Quarry ![[image loading]](http://i42.tinypic.com/mbr481.jpg) Twilight Fortress ![[image loading]](http://i39.tinypic.com/2qkkl52.jpg) Avalanche ![[image loading]](http://i43.tinypic.com/34yr4pk.jpg) Scorched Haven ![[image loading]](http://i40.tinypic.com/2ykgz9t.jpg) Bel'Shir Marquee ![[image loading]](http://i44.tinypic.com/24m6xwi.jpg) Reclamation ![[image loading]](http://i40.tinypic.com/293xffm.jpg) Graystone Ravine ![[image loading]](http://i44.tinypic.com/2elwlme.jpg)
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These are actually pretty fun to watch, will try n tune in if I'm around. Go Masa / hendralsk 
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Great work setting up tournament!
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Canada8158 Posts
On December 22 2013 08:04 ChosenBrad1322 wrote:These are actually pretty fun to watch, will try n tune in if I'm around. Go Masa / hendralsk
We could show em our patented 2v2 strat!
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siphonn and I will destroy
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On December 22 2013 09:08 Bails wrote:siphonn and I will destroy
tis' true
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map pool = serious?
i was taking it seriously till i saw the map pool
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On December 22 2013 13:38 Phanekim wrote:
map pool = serious?
i was taking it seriously till i saw the map pool
Scorched Haven really sucks as far as 2v1'ing goes but the others seem all fine.
Edit: Reclamation is bad for that as well. LOL
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On December 22 2013 13:51 Komentaja wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2013 13:38 Phanekim wrote:
map pool = serious?
i was taking it seriously till i saw the map pool Scorched Haven really sucks as far as 2v1'ing goes but the others seem all fine. Edit: Reclamation is bad for that as well. LOL
Suggest really good 2v2 maps and Ill change them out.
Also, LAST TEAM ADDED!! [TtSYF]Hitman/[TtSYF]Fighto
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damn koma and dboi wot a team
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On December 22 2013 08:25 Jer99 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2013 08:04 ChosenBrad1322 wrote:These are actually pretty fun to watch, will try n tune in if I'm around. Go Masa / hendralsk We could show em our patented 2v2 strat!
We can never give away our strat 
Nice to see field filled up, looks like a pretty solid line-up. glHF
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Spinellie and Da Drunken on juice boxs boi gonna Be In Sane in the MeM or Brain BEst LuCK gusYs I HOpes they dont speedling allin koma he weak agasint that... i recall a game years ago vs Aurora were he got smacked down HARD
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What's the format? Looking forward to watching this.
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On December 23 2013 00:07 teamgravity wrote:
What's the format? Looking forward to watching this.
Bo3's Single Elimination, my bad should put that in OP.
Also added Bel'Shir Marquee
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Kawika and Kontinue going to win like 99% sure.
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Switched Bone Trench for Avalanche.
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I have to ask... why 2v2?
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On December 25 2013 07:28 PoisonTV wrote:
I have to ask... why 2v2?
Because there aren't very many team game tournaments with pro and semi-pro players, and we figured it would be cool to try a fun and lighthearted event during the holiday season ;D
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On December 26 2013 04:06 ant-1 wrote:
Why no Protech?
He doesn't want to play in tournaments.
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On December 25 2013 07:28 PoisonTV wrote:
I have to ask... why 2v2?
Why host another 1v1 tournament when there are 10 a day, might as well have a couple 2v2 events a year ^^ Plus the best 1v1ers usually want a ton of money to play where as the best 2v2 teams are usually just excited to get an event.
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Canada8158 Posts
On December 26 2013 07:10 ChosenBrad1322 wrote:Why host another 1v1 tournament when there are 10 a day, might as well have a couple 2v2 events a year ^^ Plus the best 1v1ers usually want a ton of money to play where as the best 2v2 teams are usually just excited to get an event.
I think we could have taken 1st
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Great job using a community map! Very interested to see some "high level" games. ;D
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armata left out of this one 
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On December 22 2013 13:59 DeimosEsports wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2013 13:51 Komentaja wrote:On December 22 2013 13:38 Phanekim wrote:
map pool = serious?
i was taking it seriously till i saw the map pool Scorched Haven really sucks as far as 2v1'ing goes but the others seem all fine. Edit: Reclamation is bad for that as well. LOL Suggest really good 2v2 maps and Ill change them out. Also, LAST TEAM ADDED!! [TtSYF]Hitman/[TtSYF]Fighto
Well, from the current ladder: Isle of Slaughter and Resupply Tanker should replace Scorched Haven and Reclamation.
From outside of the current ladder: Omega Sector is a good one. I evaluate these maps based on whether outrageously imbalanced strategies (that I know of) can be carried out on them or not. Glad to see you took Bel'Shir Marquee into the tourny.
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I'm suprised baz and getslamt or power and mystic aren't on here.
I think guitarcheese and night have the most experience 2v2ing but skillwise masa and hendralisk will blow everyone away.
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looks like its going to be amazing im going have to tune in to watch it.
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Ew GinR players that clan is so BM.
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On December 26 2013 04:06 ant-1 wrote:
Why no Protech?
Probably because he's not anywhere near as good as any of these players and has insane BM. I think this is pretty well known by just about every good 2v2er for some time now.
Good luck to Kontinue and his nooby partner I'll most certainly be watching this when it's live. There are a few teams I think have a pretty good understanding of some fun gameplay. Should be very entertaining !
+ Show Spoiler +Sorry I couldn't play. I just got back from break tonight ;(
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On December 28 2013 11:13 -Kyo- wrote:Probably because he's not anywhere near as good as any of these players and has insane BM. I think this is pretty well known by just about every good 2v2er for some time now.
This. I've hosted a few 2v2 events for payouts and ProTech never wanted to be involved. He thinks everyone who has ever beat him once is a hacker or stream cheater. If I had to guess, I'd guess he wants to hide behind "the number one random 2v2er in NA" but not actually have pressure to post any results vs good players in a tournament format to back it up.
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twilight fortress...scorched haven...reclamation....geosync quarry.....wow......
the new 2v2 ladder map is cool as well as the use rmap but you kept maps from wol and some of the imbalanced rushy maps from hots ladder.
so you put those maps on, then you are going to have 2v2 novices say that 2v2 is just rushing or timing pushes. Its like the organizers never even played remotely even plat level 2v2.
then some idiot is going to say how i haven't suggested. The thread has already made proper suggestions. Reclamation is a horrid map for balance. scorched haven and twilight fortress are from wol beta....
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On December 28 2013 16:48 Phanekim wrote:
twilight fortress...scorched haven...reclamation....geosync quarry.....wow......
the new 2v2 ladder map is cool as well as the use rmap but you kept maps from wol and some of the imbalanced rushy maps from hots ladder.
so you put those maps on, then you are going to have 2v2 novices say that 2v2 is just rushing or timing pushes. Its like the organizers never even played remotely even plat level 2v2.
then some idiot is going to say how i haven't suggested. The thread has already made proper suggestions. Reclamation is a horrid map for balance. scorched haven and twilight fortress are from wol beta....
They have already shown that they are willing to adjust the map pool no? Is it final? Changes could still easily be made to make it more balanced.
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On December 28 2013 16:48 Phanekim wrote:
Its like the organizers never even played remotely even plat level 2v2.
Just an FYI, the maps went through some of the top 2v2 ranked players in NA.
Also, this isn't WCS, It's a fun event.
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On December 28 2013 17:12 ChosenBrad1322 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2013 16:48 Phanekim wrote:
twilight fortress...scorched haven...reclamation....geosync quarry.....wow......
the new 2v2 ladder map is cool as well as the use rmap but you kept maps from wol and some of the imbalanced rushy maps from hots ladder.
so you put those maps on, then you are going to have 2v2 novices say that 2v2 is just rushing or timing pushes. Its like the organizers never even played remotely even plat level 2v2.
then some idiot is going to say how i haven't suggested. The thread has already made proper suggestions. Reclamation is a horrid map for balance. scorched haven and twilight fortress are from wol beta.... They have already shown that they are willing to adjust the map pool no? Is it final? Changes could still easily be made to make it more balanced.
Its probalby impossible to balance a competition for 2s. certain matchups will always be imbalanced on certain maps. The way around it is through vetoes.
The real problem is that the organizers had not real rationale for their maps choosing. And their map consults of the top players were inevitably going to be biased. What incentive do they have to truly have a balanced tournament?
The most egregious thing is that lets say the maps are a little bit off, the entertainment value of these games will be horrendously low. Games on graystone ravine would be a little bit more enjoyable, but having maps like reclamation will be horrifically boring and strategically simplistic. The top teams have fine tuned their builds/strats towards this, and hence will favor those maps. The organizers fail to see this or understand this.
For example, I don't do this because its unfair to the competitors. But lets take ZT vs ZP on reclamation. Any top level pro will tell you exactly how this matchup is gonna turn out.
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On December 29 2013 10:46 Phanekim wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2013 17:12 ChosenBrad1322 wrote:On December 28 2013 16:48 Phanekim wrote:
twilight fortress...scorched haven...reclamation....geosync quarry.....wow......
the new 2v2 ladder map is cool as well as the use rmap but you kept maps from wol and some of the imbalanced rushy maps from hots ladder.
so you put those maps on, then you are going to have 2v2 novices say that 2v2 is just rushing or timing pushes. Its like the organizers never even played remotely even plat level 2v2.
then some idiot is going to say how i haven't suggested. The thread has already made proper suggestions. Reclamation is a horrid map for balance. scorched haven and twilight fortress are from wol beta.... They have already shown that they are willing to adjust the map pool no? Is it final? Changes could still easily be made to make it more balanced. Its probalby impossible to balance a competition for 2s. certain matchups will always be imbalanced on certain maps. The way around it is through vetoes. The real problem is that the organizers had not real rationale for their maps choosing. And their map consults of the top players were inevitably going to be biased. What incentive do they have to truly have a balanced tournament? The most egregious thing is that lets say the maps are a little bit off, the entertainment value of these games will be horrendously low. Games on graystone ravine would be a little bit more enjoyable, but having maps like reclamation will be horrifically boring and strategically simplistic. The top teams have fine tuned their builds/strats towards this, and hence will favor those maps. The organizers fail to see this or understand this. For example, I don't do this because its unfair to the competitors. But lets take ZT vs ZP on reclamation. Any top level pro will tell you exactly how this matchup is gonna turn out.
A possible way around this maybe... let people choose whatever race they want each game / map? Most high level teams possess the ability to play multiple races. Or, simply have an extensive veto system.
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On December 29 2013 10:51 ChosenBrad1322 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2013 10:46 Phanekim wrote:On December 28 2013 17:12 ChosenBrad1322 wrote:On December 28 2013 16:48 Phanekim wrote:
twilight fortress...scorched haven...reclamation....geosync quarry.....wow......
the new 2v2 ladder map is cool as well as the use rmap but you kept maps from wol and some of the imbalanced rushy maps from hots ladder.
so you put those maps on, then you are going to have 2v2 novices say that 2v2 is just rushing or timing pushes. Its like the organizers never even played remotely even plat level 2v2.
then some idiot is going to say how i haven't suggested. The thread has already made proper suggestions. Reclamation is a horrid map for balance. scorched haven and twilight fortress are from wol beta.... They have already shown that they are willing to adjust the map pool no? Is it final? Changes could still easily be made to make it more balanced. Its probalby impossible to balance a competition for 2s. certain matchups will always be imbalanced on certain maps. The way around it is through vetoes. The real problem is that the organizers had not real rationale for their maps choosing. And their map consults of the top players were inevitably going to be biased. What incentive do they have to truly have a balanced tournament? The most egregious thing is that lets say the maps are a little bit off, the entertainment value of these games will be horrendously low. Games on graystone ravine would be a little bit more enjoyable, but having maps like reclamation will be horrifically boring and strategically simplistic. The top teams have fine tuned their builds/strats towards this, and hence will favor those maps. The organizers fail to see this or understand this. For example, I don't do this because its unfair to the competitors. But lets take ZT vs ZP on reclamation. Any top level pro will tell you exactly how this matchup is gonna turn out. A possible way around this maybe... let people choose whatever race they want each game / map? Most high level teams possess the ability to play multiple races. Or, simply have an extensive veto system.
There is Veto, 2 maps for each team.
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On December 29 2013 10:55 DeimosEsports wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2013 10:51 ChosenBrad1322 wrote:On December 29 2013 10:46 Phanekim wrote:On December 28 2013 17:12 ChosenBrad1322 wrote:On December 28 2013 16:48 Phanekim wrote:
twilight fortress...scorched haven...reclamation....geosync quarry.....wow......
the new 2v2 ladder map is cool as well as the use rmap but you kept maps from wol and some of the imbalanced rushy maps from hots ladder.
so you put those maps on, then you are going to have 2v2 novices say that 2v2 is just rushing or timing pushes. Its like the organizers never even played remotely even plat level 2v2.
then some idiot is going to say how i haven't suggested. The thread has already made proper suggestions. Reclamation is a horrid map for balance. scorched haven and twilight fortress are from wol beta.... They have already shown that they are willing to adjust the map pool no? Is it final? Changes could still easily be made to make it more balanced. Its probalby impossible to balance a competition for 2s. certain matchups will always be imbalanced on certain maps. The way around it is through vetoes. The real problem is that the organizers had not real rationale for their maps choosing. And their map consults of the top players were inevitably going to be biased. What incentive do they have to truly have a balanced tournament? The most egregious thing is that lets say the maps are a little bit off, the entertainment value of these games will be horrendously low. Games on graystone ravine would be a little bit more enjoyable, but having maps like reclamation will be horrifically boring and strategically simplistic. The top teams have fine tuned their builds/strats towards this, and hence will favor those maps. The organizers fail to see this or understand this. For example, I don't do this because its unfair to the competitors. But lets take ZT vs ZP on reclamation. Any top level pro will tell you exactly how this matchup is gonna turn out. A possible way around this maybe... let people choose whatever race they want each game / map? Most high level teams possess the ability to play multiple races. Or, simply have an extensive veto system. There is Veto, 2 maps for each team.
If each team has TWO vetos... and they can pick their races going into the tourney based on the map pool if they so wish, then how could there be a problem ^^ Should be fine.
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Why all invitational? You should let top 2x2 ladder teams play here, there is no prize tournaments in 2vs2 that encourage more practice, and the few I see they are only invitational with players that don't play 2vs2 usually and don't know good strats...
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tuned in ! good games so far!!
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I wanted to give sc2 2on2 a chance because i played tons of 2on2 in bw and other rts games but sc2 2on2 is still boring to watch. The cast isnt that good either.
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On December 30 2013 04:48 TaShadan wrote:
I wanted to give sc2 2on2 a chance because i played tons of 2on2 in bw and other rts games but sc2 2on2 is still boring to watch. The cast isnt that good either.
Anything its boring if the players are not 2v2 players
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On December 30 2013 04:48 TaShadan wrote:
I wanted to give sc2 2on2 a chance because i played tons of 2on2 in bw and other rts games but sc2 2on2 is still boring to watch. The cast isnt that good either.
only those things are boring to watch which u have no idea about. if u dont play 2v2 in sc2 its obviously not as tense to watch as for ppl who play 2v2 in sc2 and know about tactics etc
for me 2v2 is the best mod in sc2, just entertaining and a big variety of strategys and matchups
+ teamgames are more interesting in general than only 1v1s. the most successful sports in the tv (except myb boxing/tennis/golf/car racing) are based on teamgames. and thats not a coincidence!
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I thought the games were great. : s
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Welp, to all the haters, I say that was a fine tournament. 2v2 works!
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That was awesome, thanks to everyone who watched =D
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Upload the vods please, great tourney, but i only saw the last 3 games..
Have to say, team Canada sure were rolling hard, ggs
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No SuperNinja/Azide invite?
Son I am disappoint
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On December 30 2013 08:24 Azide wrote:
No SuperNinja/Azide invite?
Son I am disappoint
They even had twilight fortress in the pool.
We were robbed of newbs beating superior players with gimmicks! darn!
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United Kingdom1381 Posts
Really well organised 2v2 tournament, hope to see more in the future!
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On December 30 2013 08:43 2v2levels wrote:Show nested quote +On December 30 2013 08:24 Azide wrote:
No SuperNinja/Azide invite?
Son I am disappoint They even had twilight fortress in the pool. We were robbed of newbs beating superior players with gimmicks! darn!
LOL sup bro
What's ur account name these days?
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