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Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
November 23 2013 20:04 GMT
#641
I wonder why everyone is assuming its going to be a soul train when this is actually a brilliant map for blink all-ins.
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
November 23 2013 20:04 GMT
#642
Cloud KingWHAT??!
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TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
November 23 2013 20:04 GMT
#643
Cloud kingdom... aaah the best map ever made
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
November 23 2013 20:04 GMT
#644
Love the WoL terran music on this WoL map
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de1irium
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States121 Posts
November 23 2013 20:04 GMT
#645
TB hype for Bomber's win!

[image loading]
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
November 23 2013 20:05 GMT
#646
On November 24 2013 05:03 Qwerty85 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 05:02 EleanorRIgby wrote:
On November 24 2013 05:01 pmp10 wrote:
On November 24 2013 05:00 Destructicon wrote:
On November 24 2013 04:58 TeeTS wrote:
On November 24 2013 04:57 EleanorRIgby wrote:
i like bombers composition i think it can work pretty decent if the toss doesn't go quick colossus


It works only, if the protoss attacks into the terran with pure zealot. It does not work well in any other case!


Its a good counter to chargelot archon and templar, clearly that the losses Bomber took from sOs stung and he wanted to rectify it.

It's not a good counter to archon/templar.
Casters are over-hyping things as usual.


i think you are wrong, explain yourself. the blueflame hellbats will own the zealots leaving your bio to do way more dps to the rest of the army.


But you have no answer to the storm, and unlike bio, hellbats can't dodge and they maybe don't die as fast as marines but they are not that good against storm as TB thinks.


Hellbat-marauder is quite sturdy against storm. What ForGG does is that he almost never fights head on, instead going mass medivac and drops in each of the three bases simultaneously.

Hellbat-marauder trades very well in smaller scale battles.
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
November 23 2013 20:05 GMT
#647
On November 24 2013 05:01 Shellshock wrote:
[RBBG] New York Day 1
[image loading] (T)Bomber vs. [image loading] (P)PartinG
Game 2 (1-0)
Map: Cloud Kingdom

0:00
Bomber spawns in the bottom left
PartinG spawns in the top right

1:40
rax first for Bomber
gateway first for PartinG

2:00
double gas for PartinG
cybernetics core for PartinG

3:00
CC on the low ground for Bomber
zealot for PartinG
another rax for Bomber
MSC for PartinG

4:00
scv of Bomber delaying the nexus of PartinG
3rd rax for Bomber
nexus for PartinG
stalker for PartinG
bunker in the natural for Bomber

5:00
Robo for PartinG
gas for Bomber
another stalker for PartinG
forge for PartinG
stalker scouts the bunker and CC of Bomber in the natural
observer for PartinG
ebay for Bomber
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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
November 23 2013 20:05 GMT
#648
On November 24 2013 05:04 Muffloe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 04:58 lolfail9001 wrote:
On November 24 2013 04:57 Muffloe wrote:
On November 24 2013 04:54 lolfail9001 wrote:
On November 24 2013 04:53 Muffloe wrote:
Playing against Bomber in games like these must be brutal

But Parting won, what is the problem?

I mean, playing against the brute force style backed up by that macro. And are you sure parting won?

Well, i forgot to look at amount of probes and units he had against Bomber, my bad. And yes, i have seen this style like 300 times already. Check some ForGG's TvPs even during WCS S1 pre-nerf.

Of course,I aknowledge the ForGGvP style aswell. I guess you could put them in the same TvP family kinda.

The only difference between typical ForGG vP and the 1st game was amount of scvs pulled (okay, lack of mass expanding too).
Bomber's TvP is simply Bomber's TvP, he is his own family.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
November 23 2013 20:05 GMT
#649
From the layout, CK might be hugely terran favored, if Protoss doesn´t Blink Allin...?
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
November 23 2013 20:05 GMT
#650
The casters are currently learning the most standard PvT possible.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
November 23 2013 20:05 GMT
#651
On November 24 2013 05:05 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 05:03 Qwerty85 wrote:
On November 24 2013 05:02 EleanorRIgby wrote:
On November 24 2013 05:01 pmp10 wrote:
On November 24 2013 05:00 Destructicon wrote:
On November 24 2013 04:58 TeeTS wrote:
On November 24 2013 04:57 EleanorRIgby wrote:
i like bombers composition i think it can work pretty decent if the toss doesn't go quick colossus


It works only, if the protoss attacks into the terran with pure zealot. It does not work well in any other case!


Its a good counter to chargelot archon and templar, clearly that the losses Bomber took from sOs stung and he wanted to rectify it.

It's not a good counter to archon/templar.
Casters are over-hyping things as usual.


i think you are wrong, explain yourself. the blueflame hellbats will own the zealots leaving your bio to do way more dps to the rest of the army.


But you have no answer to the storm, and unlike bio, hellbats can't dodge and they maybe don't die as fast as marines but they are not that good against storm as TB thinks.


Hellbat-marauder is quite sturdy against storm. What ForGG does is that he almost never fights head on, instead going mass medivac and drops in each of the three bases simultaneously.

Hellbat-marauder trades very well in smaller scale battles.

Yeah, hellbat marauder is way worse against archon-immortal like compositions, like one PartinG tried to get in 1st game.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
November 23 2013 20:05 GMT
#652
On November 24 2013 05:04 de1irium wrote:
TB hype for Bomber's win!

+ Show Spoiler +
&#91;image loading&#93;

I guess Wax has a new twitter pic.
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pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3390 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-23 20:06:27
November 23 2013 20:06 GMT
#653
On November 24 2013 05:02 EleanorRIgby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 05:01 pmp10 wrote:
On November 24 2013 05:00 Destructicon wrote:
On November 24 2013 04:58 TeeTS wrote:
On November 24 2013 04:57 EleanorRIgby wrote:
i like bombers composition i think it can work pretty decent if the toss doesn't go quick colossus


It works only, if the protoss attacks into the terran with pure zealot. It does not work well in any other case!


Its a good counter to chargelot archon and templar, clearly that the losses Bomber took from sOs stung and he wanted to rectify it.

It's not a good counter to archon/templar.
Casters are over-hyping things as usual.


i think you are wrong, explain yourself. the blueflame hellbats will own the zealots leaving your bio to do way more dps to the rest of the army.

Nobody is questioning that they are good against chargelots but they take extra damage from archons and are too slow to effectively dodge storms.
Zoku
Profile Joined November 2010
307 Posts
November 23 2013 20:06 GMT
#654
The soul train is a PvZ build. I thought this was common knowledge.
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
November 23 2013 20:06 GMT
#655
On November 24 2013 05:05 TeeTS wrote:
From the layout, CK might be hugely terran favored, if Protoss doesn´t Blink Allin...?


Wasn't it nicknamed "protoss kingdom"? Very hard to drop on this map and lots of nice chokes to engage in.
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
November 23 2013 20:06 GMT
#656
On November 24 2013 05:05 TeeTS wrote:
From the layout, CK might be hugely terran favored, if Protoss doesn´t Blink Allin...?

you are a silly guy if you do not blink all in on this map
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
TaishiCi
Profile Joined September 2013
Korea (South)211 Posts
November 23 2013 20:06 GMT
#657
On November 24 2013 05:01 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2013 05:00 Elite_ wrote:
TB is extremely enthusiastic for someone that hasn't slept the past two nights.

His team won GSTL so no need to be grumpy


Can't be... Blowing rails all day. 4sho!

Innovation just took over that match.
Dae Han Min Gook Man Sae!!!
d00p
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
711 Posts
November 23 2013 20:06 GMT
#658
Isn't soultrain/immortal all-in an ZvP build perfected by Parting? This is PvT. WTF ARE THEY TALKING ABOUT?!?!?!
Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
November 23 2013 20:07 GMT
#659
On November 24 2013 05:05 TeeTS wrote:
From the layout, CK might be hugely terran favored, if Protoss doesn´t Blink Allin...?

Mass Reaper early game > drops.
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
November 23 2013 20:07 GMT
#660
Can't even connect to the stream anymore. Wish we'd finally get at a point where twitch didn't just flat out suck and get worse all the time.
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